nous commençons à préparer tranquillement un premier voyage au Japon, 2 semaines en Avril 2015. Certes, on commence bien en avance, mais il y a tant d'informations à glaner sur le forum. Certes on s'y prend tôt, mais cela fait aussi partie du voyage.
Quel plaisir d'ailleurs de parcourir toutes ces discussions. Un grand merci à tous les contributeurs qui partagent leur expériences.
Nous partirons donc à 2, pour un séjour de 2 semaines du 10 au 25 Avril 2015.
Au départ de Lyon, vol Aller vers Osaka, puis retour depuis Tokyo.
JRP Pass 7 jours, activation au Jour 5.
Voici donc notre première ébauche de programme : l'idée étant, pour ce premier voyage, de visiter sans trop de stress et courir, afin de prendre le temps de s'imprégner au mieux de nos lieux de visite.
Jour 1 : arrivée le matin vers 7h à Osaka KIX , installation, récupération et premières visites à Osaka
Jour 2 & 3 : visite d'Osaka (programme à préciser)
Jour 4 : départ le matin pour Kyoto, début de visite Kyoto
Jour 5 : journée à Himeji, puis retour vers Kyoto
Jour 6 : journée à Nara, puis retour vers Kyoto
Jour 7 : dernière journée à Kyoto
Jour 8 : départ pour Hiroshima, visite, puis fin de journée destination Miyajima, nuit à Miyajima
Jour 9 : matinée à Miyajima, puis départ dans l'après-midi pour Tokyo
Jour 10 : Visite Tokyo (programme à préciser)
Jour 11 : départ pour la journée à Hakone, vue Mt Fuji et retour Tokyo en soirée
Jour 12 : Visite Tokyo (programme à préciser)
Jour 13 : journée à Narita puis retour Tokyo
Jour 14 : Visite Tokyo (programme à préciser)
Jour 15 : fin du séjour, départ Tokyo Haneda, retour vers Lyon.
Voici donc, une première approche dans les grandes lignes.
Merci pour vos remarques, conseils et suggestions. Si vous trouvez certains déséquilibres dans ce programme, n'hésitez pas à le dire.
Une arrivée à Ôsaka pour un premier voyage, voilà qui est original !
Au final ça ne fait pas beaucoup de journées sur Kyôto et Tôkyô ce qui est dommage !
Quelques conseils.
Supprimez la journée à Himeji. Si c'est juste pour visiter le château (qui ré ouvrira en mars 2015) et que vous y tenez vraiment, c'est faisable en une demi-journée sur le trajet Kyôto - Hiroshima (et dans ce cas faites envoyer vos bagages par Takkyubin pour ne pas être encombrés). Comme ça vous pourrez passer la 5ème journée sur Kyôto et le programme donnerait ceci :
Jour 5 : journée à Kyoto
Jour 8 : départ pour Himeji, visite du château, puis trajet vers Hiroshima, visite, nuit à Miyajima.
Jour 9 : matinée à Miyajima, fin de visite d'Hiroshima puis départ en soirée pour Tokyo
Je supprimerais aussi une journée à Ôsaka pour Kyôto.
La journée sur Narita est-elle indispensable (visite d'amis, famille ou autre ) ? Sinon c'est à supprimer sans regrets.
Avec un aussi court séjour sur Tôkyô, je supprimerais la journée à Hakone. Le Mt Fuji sera visible depuis le Shinkansen ou depuis les plus hautes tours de Tôkyô (Tôkyô Tower, tours de la mairie, SkyTree...)
Mêmes remarques.
Trop de sorties des villes très intéressantes pour voir des sites moins intéressants.
Commencer par Osaka est une bonne entrée en matière.
Je connais bien cette ville et pourrai vous conseiller si besoin est.
Himeji risque d'être très encombré, cela fait 10 ans que son château est fermé... tout le monde voudra y retourner les premiers mois.
Nara n'est pas incontournable si on ne reste que quatre jours à Kyoto. Il y a tellement à voir dans cette ville...
Jours 8 et 9 rien à dire.
Quand vous serez à Tokyo, n'en sortez pas. cette ville ne se visite pas en deux jours.
Même interrogation pour Narita... Pourquoi? Si possible à supprimer et rester à Tokyo.
Hakone est une destination à faire si on y va pour deux raisons: voir fujisan (mais ce n'est pas gagné d'avance) et se prélasser dans le onsen d'un ryokan. Pour cela, il faut y rester une nuit... ou rester à Tokyo.
Bonne préparation!
SweetBene et Fuchan 69, merci à tous les 2 pour vos réponses et vos avis éclairés.
Donc selon vos indications, notre programme évoluerait ainsi :
Jour 1 : Arrivée le matin vers 7h à Osaka KIX , installation, récupération et premières visites à Osaka
Jour 2 : Visite Osaka
Jour 3 : Visite Osaka - Fin de journée visite Kyoto
Jour 4 : Visite Kyoto
Jour 5 : Visite Kyoto
Jour 6 : Visite Kyoto
Jour 7 : Visite Kyoto
Jour 8 : Hiroshima, puis milieu après-midi destination Miyajima, nuit à Miyajima
Jour 9 : matinée à Miyajima, puis départ dans l'après-midi pour Tokyo
Jour 10 : Visite Tokyo
Jour 11 : Visite Tokyo
Jour 12 : Visite Tokyo
Jour 13 : Visite Tokyo
Jour 14 : Visite Tokyo
Jour 15 : fin du séjour, départ Tokyo Haneda, retour vers Lyon.
Une petite question concernant le choix de l'hôtel à Tokyo. Conseilleriez-vous de rester dans un hôtel pour les 5 journées, ou peut-être partager le séjour en 2 hôtel afin d'optimiser les déplacements vers les quartiers à visiter ?
C'est beaucoup mieux équilibré.
Une autre alternative: zappez le troisième jour à Osaka, partez vers Hiroshima le matin.
Le lendemain après midi, partez de Miyajima pour Kyoto.
Cela vous évitera le long voyage direct de Miyajimaguchi jusqu'à Tokyo. (près de 6 heures de train shinkansen).
Cela donnerait: 1-2 Osaka
3-4 Hiroshima, nuit à Miyajima, Kyoto dans l'après midi.
5-6-7-8 Kyoto
9-10-11-12-13-14 Tokyo (départ de Kyoto le 9 au matin). Avec une journée de plus à Tokyo, on peut improviser une sortie, si il fait beau.
15 Départ.
Pour les hôtels;
Osaka: restez dans le quartier de Namba. C'est une des gares d'arrivée en provenance de l'aéroport (Namba Nankai).
Le quartier est très animé et les visites nombreuses.
Kyoto: Deux possibilités. Soit proche de la gare, compte tenu que tous les bus partent de là pour sillonner la ville.
Soit vers le quartier de Kawaramachi, un peu plus central et proche de lieux plus animés le soir (mais rien à voir avec Osaka...). Personnellement, c'est ce que je préconise.
Tokyo: Je ne conseille pas de changer d'endroit, de toute façon, il faudra se déplacer. L'essentiel est de savoir ce que vous recherchez. L'animation ou la tranquillité.
Pour l'animation, rien de tel que Shibuya. Ce quartier est un vrai spectacle à lui seul. On peut y passer plusieurs jours sans s'ennuyer une seconde. De plus, il est situé sur la ligne yamanote, qui décrit un "cercle" autour du centre de la ville. C'est à proximité de cette ligne que se trouvent la majorité des lieux à visiter.
L'alternative tranquille se trouve au Nord-Est, vers Asakusa. Beaucoup de monde la journée, mais des soirées vraiment tranquilles à se balader dans des rues presque désertes.
Pour aller à Haneda airport, compter environ 45 minutes des deux quartiers., mais je trouve que c'est plus aisé en partant de Shibuya.
Bonjour
je reviens de 15 jours au Japon, le conseil que je peux te donner est de limiter les villes servant de base, nous sommes restés 8 nuits à Kyoto et 5 à Tokyo.
De Kyoto tu peux faire Nara en 45 mn, Osaka en 30 minutes, faire une sortie sur OHARA qui te donnera un aperçu de la campagne (1h de bus) ...
Tout est très simple en matière de déplacement, à Kyoto tu peux t'adresser au centre de renseignement des bus qui est à côté de la station de la gare.
Pour Tokyo, en 5 jours pleins nous n'avons pas pu tout faire ....
Tu peux trouver tout note voyage sur
http://japoncircuit.blogspot.fr
Votre nouveau programme est plus raisonnable et je parle en connaissance de cause, nous avons suivi a peu de choses près le même parcours il y a un mois (mon post http://voyageforum.com/discussion/itineraire-15-jours-japon-avril-mai-d6392667/) et sans dire qu'on a couru, il nous aurait été difficile d'en caser davantage en 15 jours.
En J9, vous arriverez sans doute en soirée à Tokyo (ce qui ne pose aucun problème) car j'imagine que vous avez prévu de gravir le Mont Misen ?
Pour Tokyo, je vous conseille de rester dans le même hôtel, ça vous évitera de perdre du temps en check out+ckeck in et de vous balader avec vos bagages. De plus les transports fonctionnent très bien et on se rend de manière générale très vite d'un quartier à un autre par le métro.
Merci à tous (SweetBene, Fucha69, Pierre8313 et Swimmer) pour ces retours et ce partage d'expérience. Je parcours vos différentes interventions, carnet de voyage et blogs afin de m'aider à fixer les grandes lignes de chaque journée.
J'ai déjà pris contact et réservé un Ryokan pour la nuit à Miyajima => "Ryoso Kawagushi". Prise de contact par mail très facile. Réponse rapide. Semble être parfais pour une étape d'une nuit sur l'île.
Je reviens vers vous afin de vous soumettre ce planning avec plus de détail et mes pistes d'hôtel pour Osaka, Kyoto et Tokyo.
sur la base de notre programme actuel, je me pose la question de l'intérêt d'un JRP Pass 7 jours sachant que les trajets à faire seront les suivants :
Jour 1 : Arrivée Osaka KIX , Trajet vers Osaka hors JRP
Jour 2 : Visite Osaka
Jour 3 : Visite Osaka - Trajet vers Kyoto
Jour 4 : Visite Kyoto
Jour 5 : Visite Kyoto
Jour 6 : Visite Kyoto
Jour 7 : Visite Kyoto
Jour 8 : Visite Hiroshima/Miyajima - Trajet pour Miyajima
Jour 9 : Visite Miyajima - Trajet pour Tokyo
Jour 10 : Visite Tokyo
Jour 11 : Visite Tokyo
Jour 12 : Visite Tokyo
Jour 13 : Visite Tokyo
Jour 14 : Visite Tokyo
Jour 15 : fin du séjour, Trajet Tokyo Haneda
Les 2 trajets depuis et vers les aéroports ne peuvent entrer dans un pass 7j. Reste alors les trajets suivants :
- Osaka/Kyoto
- Visite Osaka donc en bus, si j'ai bien compris
- Visite Kyoto bus et métro ?
- Kyoto/Hiroshima/Miyajima
- Miyajima/Hiroshima/Tokyo
- Visite Kyoto métro, bus et train ?
Le JRP Pass 7j, s'avère-t-il nécessaire selon vous sur la base de ce programme ? Je n'en n'ai pas l'impression, mais peut-être suis-je dans l'erreur.
Les 2 trajets depuis et vers les aéroports ne peuvent entrer dans un pass 7j. Reste alors les trajets suivants :
- Osaka/Kyoto
Le prix de ce trajet est de 540 yens. (4 euros...)
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Visite Osaka donc en bus, si j'ai bien compris
Osaka se visite surtout en métro et un peu en trains
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Visite Kyoto bus et métro ?
Il n'y a que deux lignes de métro à Kyoto, donc tu ne les utiliseras pas beaucoup. D'avantage la ligne Karasuma (verte) que Tozai (rouge). La plupart des déplacements se font en bus, mais il y a aussi des lignes de trains privées (Hankyu et Keihan) qui complètent le réseau.
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Si tu prends un JR pass de 7 jours, c'est au départ de Kyoto vers Hiroshima qu'il faudra l'activer (cela peut être fait n'importe quand, quand tu décideras d'changer ton voucher)
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Visite Kyoto métro, bus et train ?
Je pense que tu as voulu marquer Tokyo. Les déplacements se font essentiellement et métro et train JR par Yamanote et Chuo line. Je n'ai jamais pris le bus à Tokyo...
Le JRP Pass 7j, s'avère-t-il nécessaire selon vous sur la base de ce programme ? Je n'en n'ai pas l'impression, mais peut-être suis-je dans l'erreur.
Le prix du JR pass de 7 jours (29110 JPY) est équivalent à celui des billets de train (29570 JPY).
Le JR pass permet aussi de faire le trajet en ferry entre Miyajimaguchi et Miyajima (700 yens, je crois...)
Il te permettrait aussi de te déplacer sur le réseau ferré de Tokyo (yamanote et chuo) mais ce n'est pas très cher.
L'avantage est surtout qu'il permet d'éviter d'acheter les billets de train et que les réservations sont gratuites.
Il faudrait un autre déplacement (Nikko par exemple) pour faire pencher la balance.
J'y vois bien plus clair. Je n'avais pas pris en compte la réservation du siège dans les billets de train.
Si j'active comme tu me le conseilles le JRP lors de mon départ de Kyoto pour Miyajima, j'ai donc 2 trajets :
- Kyoto/Hiroshima/Miyajima
- Miyajima/Tokyo
le JRP 7J est intéressant. Sauf erreur lors de ma recherche sur Hyperdia : JRP 29000 yen vs 2 billets 30820 yen.
Plus ensuite le bénéfice du JRP lors de la visite de Tokyo. Le JRP 7J est donc intéressant avec activation au départ de Kyoto.
Activez votre JRpass avant et profitez-en pour ajouter l'A/R vers Nara et autres destinations régionales. Dans Tokyo, vous êtes limité aux lignes JR Yamanote et Chuo qui ne couvrent pas toutes les destinations intéressantes, le JRpass n'y est donc pas très intéressant sauf à faire une excursion hors ville (Nikko, Kamakura, ...).
Merci CalamityGin pour ton avis concernant le JRpass.
Un peu absent pendant l'été, mais j'ai tout de même avancé dans la préparation de ce voyage, et suivit les différents sujets (nouveaux et autres) de cette partie du forum.
Le planning reste le même.
Les billets d'avion sont réservés.
Hôtel et Ryokan pour Osaka, Miyajima et Tokyo sont aussi réservés.
Il me reste à trouver un hôtel sur Kyoto. Si certains ont quelques suggestions. Notre budget pour une chambre pour 2 personnes est aujourd'hui fixé à 15000 yen/nuits max. Bonne localisation pour visite de Kyoto sur 3 journées.
Il me reste à trouver un hôtel sur Kyoto. Si certains ont quelques suggestions. Notre budget pour une chambre pour 2 personnes est aujourd'hui fixé à 15000 yen/nuits max. Bonne localisation pour visite de Kyoto sur 3 journées.
Merci à tous pour votre aide et suggestions.
Amicalement.
Yann.
Visez alors le centre-ville, en gros dans le quadrilatère allant du sud au nord de l'avenue Shi-Jo-dori à Oike-dori et d'ouest en est de Karasuma (la centrale qui part de la gare) et Higashiyama (donc Gion).
Voyez les zones "Central area" et "Gion and Kiyomizu" sur ce site: http://www.kyotoguide.com/ver2/guide/accomodation-kyotostation.htm pour vos donner une idée.
Je vous conseillerais de regarder les 3 ou 4 business hôtels à Kyoto de la chaine Toyoko Inn. Ils sont bien dans votre budget et d'un bon rapport qualité/prix.
Très bonne suggestion, surtout les deux sur l'avenue Karasuma (Gojo-Karasuma et Shijo-Karasuma, très bien situés par rapport au centre-ville et à la gare (donc aux transports). http://www.toyoko-inn.com/eng/
Merci à CalamityGin et Peluche26 pour ces suggestions. J'ai fait un petit tour sur leur site. pas réservante pour le moment. Au plus tôt 3 mois avant le séjour. Je vais donc patienter encore un peu.
Il y a deux ans, les chambres garden type B du Matsubaya Inn étaient indisponibles. J'avais opté pour un Toyoko Inn puisque j'avais la carte. Après avoir hésité entre Gojo et Shijo, j'avais choisi Gojo pour être plus près de la gare (endroit incontournable de Kyoto). Emplacement très convenable, mais c'est un poil loin de la gare (20 minutes à pied) donc finalement Shijo, plus loin de la gare, mais plus proche de Gion, c'est peut-être préférable, je sais pas...
Je descends souvent dans les hôtels de la chaîne "Super Hotel".
Ce sont des business hôtels que l'on trouve dans tout le Japon.
Depuis quelques années, ils ont pratiquement tous un onsen.
Il y en a un dans le quartier de kawaramachi, très bien situé à deux pas de Nishiki et de Pontocho.
lien vers cet hôtel.
Les hôtels que vous me conseillez ne sont pas pour le moment ouverts à la réservation.
Je pense faire une réservation afin de sécuriser mon séjour à Kyoto et je m'adapterai d'ici 2/3 mois en fonction de ce que je pourrai réserver parmis les hôtels que vous m'avez conseillé.
J'ai repéré cette hôtel (ci-dessous) qui entre dans notre budget, certains le connaissent-ils ? Que pensez-vous de sa situation géographique ?
ARK Hôtel, Omiya Nishi-iru Shijo St. Nakagyo-ku Kyoto
Next year, we’re celebrating 20 years of marriage (and travel 🙂), and we’re looking for something new, pretty legendary, and something the teens will enjoy too.
The family council has settled on Japan for now. And it’d have to be a summer trip—no choice there.
The catch: I keep reading that August isn’t the right season for southern Japan. It’s hot, humid, and there’s a risk of typhoons… Okay, but what does that *actually* mean in practice? Are there any travelers who’ve been there during this time? Is it *that* unbearable?
We’re pretty familiar with Southeast Asia—last year, we dealt with scorching heat in Vietnam and insane humidity, plus a typhoon we experienced from a distance, and visiting Angkor in the blazing sun. Is it worse than that?
Hi,
July 2026: I’m writing to you from Dali.
First, I got scammed on Booking—AI-retouched photos. No tourists at this hotel (Yishanju Designer Hotel), and the reality was horrible: dirty, with a disgusting breakfast. It’s better to use Trip.com here.
Next, the old town was an infernal cacophony, packed with tourists who shoved past without a care. Some vendors harassed you to buy things. All the stalls sold the same cheap plastic junk or other uninteresting stuff. The beautiful scenery was ruined by vendors lining 100% of the alleys. Impossible to walk, crushing heat, nothing good to eat except fresh fruit. Horrible experience.
Day 2: We went to Cangshan Mountain by cable car—the ride was short and nothing spectacular. We were at 2,600 m.
My plan was to see Erhai Lake. Unfortunately, I followed the advice of an AI chatbot: take the boat at Langkan Dock. The Didi dropped us off in the nearest area, which was full of charming little alleys but packed with Chinese tourists. The three-wheeled yellow cabs zoomed through the narrow streets, forcing you to hug the walls, on top of the scooters and other pedestrians to deal with. Crossing the neighborhood was hellish and suffocating. Once out, we hit the "corniche," which was also packed with Chinese tourists. The lake’s edge was all pebbles, and everyone was standing around taking photos. I was with my 5-year-old son. I would’ve liked to sit down and let him play with stones by the water, but it was clear we didn’t belong. They were even shoving each other for a shot! There were no boats in sight. In short, we’d had enough, and there was nothing interesting there either.
On the way back, we had to cross that maze again under the scorching sun. My son was braver than me—I even had a little dizzy spell from all the chaos. Add to that Dali’s altitude (2,200 m), so altitude insomnia, fatigue, and vulnerability during the day...
The restaurants weren’t inviting—the staff served sticky rice in a little bucket. The dishes were wrapped, and you had to figure it out yourself. After that, they ignored you completely, even if you were the only tourist.
On the 3rd day, it was time to leave for Shaxi. I hope to see beautiful villages. But honestly, I’m exhausted by this atmosphere where everything is complicated, communication is never smooth, noise is everywhere, and the behavior of some Chinese people is abusive...
Silver lining: not a drop of rain in 4 days and blue skies.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there...
But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
I’m heading to Yunnan in February 2027.
We’ll be traveling exclusively by train since my daughter gets car sick.
Our itinerary includes:
Kunming
Jianshui
Dali
Shaxi
Lijiang
Shangri-La
I’d love any tips, especially other places to visit (without winding roads) or great hotel, guesthouse, or minsu recommendations.
Thanks!
Claudine
Hey there,
In the sea of VPNs, I'm looking for one to use in China for just a month (free or paid). Which one should I pick? All the ones I've found are for several months or even a year.
I’m planning an itinerary for Hokkaido but I’m struggling to decide if late May to early June will be the right time.
Too early for the flower fields but…
What do you think?
Hi,
Our trip is planned for 20 days in Japan next April. We have a free subscription that would allow us to use 35 GB (I’m a bit confused), but we also need to be able to make phone calls with a French couple traveling with us for a few days, and that seems impossible due to cost... Any solutions for using GPS while keeping those 35 GB? Used to traveling in Southeast Asia, we usually rely on local SIM cards. Is it easy to do the same in Japan?
Thanks for your help!
Best,
Tialou
Hi,
My departure is coming up soon—two months backpacking in Taiwan, so much to discover! I’d love to hear about your travel experiences.
My main interests are meeting people, understanding how things work, hiking, and nature in general. I’ve also done a lot of reading about Taiwan’s complex situation.
I do stone sculpture.
I also want to visit Orchid Island for its history.
Marie
Hi,
I’ve always been used to exchanging my money (€) in town no matter the country (with a "mini exchange" at the airport if needed).
I can’t find any recent posts on this topic from the last few years.
Does anyone have any insights on this? Intrinsic benefits, best places to exchange, etc.?
I arrive at Tokyo Haneda on a Friday around 12:30 PM, and my first night is very close to Shinjuku.
Thanks.
Here are some tips from our 6-week trip (summer 2026) to China, Vietnam, and Cambodia. We traveled as a family of four with two kids aged 15 and 12.
I hope these notes help other travelers!
CHINA
General
You’ll need to download and set up a few apps:
- Alipay and WeChat for payments (I didn’t withdraw a single bill the entire trip)
- Didi for taxis
- Amap = Chinese Maps (works great, especially for subways)
- A translation app (we used Papago, but it sometimes gave weird results)
- Google Lens for translating menus or signs—super handy.
- HelloRide for bikes
- Gemini and ChatGPT for everything: understanding daily life, enhancing visits, checking the weather, finding things.
- HomeExchange if you want to lower travel costs (few listings in Asia except in big cities, often expats)
- Trip.com is very useful, even essential, for trains, domestic flights, and hotels. Like Booking.com, the more you book with them, the more perks you get. So I’d even suggest checking flight tickets on this site, even if it’s a bit pricier. However, buying train tickets is complicated because (1) they only open 15 days in advance, and (2) they sell out fast. Trip.com just promises to buy them as soon as they’re available but doesn’t always succeed. It’s stressful and might force you to change your plans, especially if you’re aiming for a sleeper car and there are no seats left. Watch out for station names—many cities have multiple stations, including a high-speed rail one outside the city.
For internet, we got the Asia plan from Holafly. It worked but seemed much slower than Chinese internet. I regretted not buying a Chinese SIM card because without internet in China, everything is VERY complicated (money, transport, etc.).
For the firewall, we used ExpressVPN, but it wasn’t always reliable. A bit disappointing. Ask ChatGPT for tips with screenshots to improve the settings.
Since we only had one SIM card with internet, we couldn’t rent shared bikes. If I were to do it again, I’d get a SIM for each person, even the kids, because distances in cities are huge. We walked *a lot*. Same goes for buses—it’s tricky with just one internet connection. Better to have a phone per person with internet.
Book your visits as far in advance as possible—they often sell out.
Watch out for power banks: if they don’t explicitly say "3C," they’ll confiscate it. Even if there’s a little airplane logo.
Shanghai
In the evening, the streets leading to the Bund from the metro were so crowded that police were out in force blocking roads. Arrive early. We went around the north side.
Suzhou
Be careful—there are two stations (common in China), and the high-speed rail one is 45–50 minutes from the old town.
The Humble Administrator’s Garden was *packed*—we don’t recommend it. It turned into a marathon day from Shanghai (almost 4 hours from our hotel to the garden).
Beijing
Forbidden City: Don’t go—I know it’s a shame, but it’s too crowded. I couldn’t buy tickets on the official site because of the kids’ passports. We ended up with a guided tour, the only way to get in (tickets sell out fast). The visit was disappointing—bad guide *and* massive crowds. You’ll queue a lot to enter and see certain areas. You’ll be checked often, so pack your bags carefully.
Great Wall at Mutianyu: Crowded. Two hours by bus, and even though we arrived early, people were already leaving! I really think the best option is to leave your big bags in Beijing and stay overnight near the Wall. That way, you’ll have it to yourself a bit more. For transport: get off at Tiananmen Square metro and look for buses with official guides in bright yellow-green vests. No need to buy tickets online—they made me cancel mine to rebook on the spot. Buses leave when full. Note: the cable car and chairlift are separate—if you want to go up one side and down the other, you’ll need different tickets. The endless queue for the toboggan ride put us off.
Quick tip: Incredible swimming spot in Beijing—on the north shore of Houhai Lake, you can swim by crossing the barrier. We did it twice with about ten other people. Bring a swimsuit!
Shapotou Desert
Amazing, but it gets *very* hot in the afternoon. We had a tent (not an air-conditioned bungalow), which was unbearable during the day. We hung out in the restaurant.
The paid activities are fun, except the camels—they look sad. The real highlight is the evening and sunset. The only downside: you can’t explore the desert alone or far—they don’t rent 4x4s, for example.
We stayed at "The Desert Camping Hotel of the Proprietress of Shapotou." They were lovely.
Zhongwei
Gaomiao Temple and its underground: Fun and short—you’ll see quirky Buddhist hell paintings.
Xi’an
Terracotta Army: We took a Didi because for four people, a car was almost the same price as four shuttle tickets. It was packed—chaotic to see properly.
We visited the halls in order: 3, 2, then 1—a good choice.
Hua Shan Mountains: Left before sunrise to arrive when the ticket office opened (7 AM, I think). We were shocked to see so many people already coming down.
45 minutes by bus to the west cable car, then 15 minutes up.
We did the west, south, east, central, then north peaks (in that order) before taking the other cable car down (you can buy the ticket at the top). A beautiful day.
In the city, check out...
Chengdu
Panda Research Center: Like Hua Shan, plan to arrive when the ticket office opens. Already *tons* of people, and it moves fast to see the big pandas before their nap. Have them drop you at the west entrance (not south), or you’ll have to walk uphill.
Leshan Giant Buddha: Interesting. The trip is a bit long (metro, then train, then city bus, then shuttle on-site). We didn’t take the boat option but walked. In the end, you only spend a few minutes at the Buddha’s feet, but it’s a nice day out.
Hotel tip: Panda Enjoy Home Hotel Apartments (Chengdu East Railway Station Dongda Road Branch). The view is insane, and the neighborhood is super convenient and nice. 646 CNY for 2 nights.
Swimming: The municipal pool is an interesting experience, but don’t expect to swim—no one does. Everyone just splashes around where they can stand. The hours are a bit odd, with a break in the late afternoon.
Kunming
The bike path along Dian Lake is pretty and often well-protected from cars. But like everywhere in China, it’s *packed*. Not much to say about visits—the flower market is a wholesale market, not very interesting. The ethnic minorities museum closed right in front of us.
All the big malls are good for shopping.
Dali
We thought we could bike around the lake in two days. Wrong on two counts: First, the lake’s edge is blocked to traffic and reserved for bikes (or tourist mini-buses). So you’re stuck on the main road, which never gives you a view of the lake, with all the trucks and cars. Doing 120 km like that wouldn’t make sense, in our opinion. The rice fields around are nice but not as impressive as elsewhere, so Dali isn’t worth it for that.
The old town, all restored, is pretty but *packed*—thousands of people, especially in the evening.
Hekou (Vietnam border)
Comfortable train from Kunming. In the parking lot, a bus (not well-marked, but Didi is an option) takes you to the border in 15–20 minutes. Short wait at both border posts. Fun to see the two lampposts near the border line: the Chinese one is new, modern, with a surveillance camera (of course), while the Vietnamese one is old and a bit rusty.
VIETNAM
General:
- You’ll need the Grab app for taxis
- Very disappointed with 12Go—it doesn’t show all buses, never connects you with the company, and refuses refunds. Try booking directly with companies like FUTA Bus instead.
- Credit cards are often accepted (supermarkets and modern stores), otherwise, you’ll need cash
Lao Cai
2 km between the border and the train station.
The sleeper bus to Hanoi with Sao Viet is well-organized—it works.
Hanoi
Ho Chi Minh Mausoleum closes early (10:30 AM, I think).
Women’s Museum: Very good, not too long
Temple of Literature: Beautiful, fairly quick
This is where you should buy souvenirs, clothes, and knockoffs—the prices are reasonable, and the sellers are nicer than elsewhere. We recommend Cho Dong Xuan.
Tu Long Bay
We did 2 days, 1 night (so really 24 hours on the boat) with Parfum d’Automne (French-speaking agency), which put us on a Cycad Cruise boat. Cost: 300 € per person—expensive, but it was amazing, super luxurious, and the buffet meals were delicious. We don’t regret the splurge. The only downside: no swimming in the bay (but there’s a pool on the boat). To swim, you’d need a 3-day, 2-night trip to an area not protected by the maritime park.
Phong Nha
If you didn’t do the northern mountains due to time or weather (like us), Phong Nha is a great stop for a motorbike ride. It’s beautiful, especially the mountains west of the city toward the caves.
There are two (small) swimming spots at the Botanic Garden—a pleasant 45-minute walk without stops.
Hotel tip: Sunbeam Village (very friendly, pool, breakfast by the river, motorbike rentals)
Da Nang
Hotel tip: Meridians by Hsuite—you’ll have the beach almost to yourself. You’ll still need to walk 15–20 minutes to the hyper-touristy area if you want to rent surfboards (150–200k VND per hour).
The beach is beautiful, and the water is 30°C—great for a break on a long trip, especially since all transport goes through Da Nang.
Hoi An
45 minutes from Da Nang, so it’s easy to visit in a day, especially since the city isn’t that big and it’s *very* hot.
Cooking class: MS Hanh cooking class—great (the market tour is a bit useless). We don’t recommend the "basket boat" tour—it’s a bit sad on a big brown pond with elderly guides.
Ho Chi Minh City
Ben Thanh Market is a nightmare: starting prices are exorbitant, and the vendors are aggressive. Don’t go.
The War Remnants Museum can be really tough for kids.
Can Tho
Avoid this city. We made the mistake of going to see the floating market—don’t.
Chau Doc
No Grab in the city, but regular taxis.
One day is enough if you go early to the forest and the mountain in the late afternoon.
250k VND per person for the forest and its canals (45 minutes by motorbike)
The sunset at Victoria Nui Sam can be magnificent if the clouds cooperate.
Cheap and good restaurant: Quan Nem Nuong Sau Hiep
Hotel tip: Homestay Khoa (2,250,000 VND for 3 nights)—adorable hostess, full of tips, clean rooms.
The speedboat to Cambodia is more comfortable than a bus. Book with Hangchau a few days in advance—payment in cash on the day (1,640,000 đ).
CAMBODIA
General:
- Issues with the "Bakong Tourists" app—we had to go to a big bank to load money onto it. We barely used it afterward.
Phnom Penh
For us, a day and a half is enough if you want to spend more time elsewhere.
Markets close early (around 6 PM) and are less interesting than in Hanoi, for example.
The Royal Palace has a break from 11 AM to 2 PM, but there aren’t many people in the afternoon.
Siem Reap
Trip with Capitol company—the bus is basic but cheap. Departs at 10:15 AM, 7-hour ride.
Angkor entrance fee: 62 USD per person for a 3-day pass. Tickets are picked up at Angkor Enterprise.
Renting two 125cc motorbikes: 10 USD each, plus 7 USD for gas.
By bike, it took me 25 minutes to reach Angkor Wat’s pools. A basic city bike rental was 1 USD per hour.
Short circuit by motorbike (in reverse): 7 hours with stops everywhere.
Grand tour by tuk-tuk: Only 5 temples, 4.5 hours.
If you want to see lots of monkeys, they’re grouped west of Bayon.
For the temples, we asked Gemini (AI) at each stop to point out details that might interest kids (who can get bored with the repetition). It gave fun facts and things to look for—great for the little ones.
Hotel tip: The Five Senses, run by a Frenchman, Bruno, who knows Cambodia inside out and organizes tours.
Restaurant tip: Wild (only spring rolls, but *so* many varieties—delicious and cheap)
Watch out: 1 hour to the airport, 50 km from the city.
Show tip: The Phare Circus
Has anyone taken the bus recently, especially the Busda bus from Dongsi subway station to Mutianyu or the special tourist bus from Qianmen to Mutianyu? If so, I’d love to hear your feedback!
I’m traveling solo to China on September 18th and I’m completely overwhelmed by all the info out there.
This isn’t my first trip, but it’s still tough to make choices, so I’m open to outside perspectives.
This time, the plan is southern Kyushu with a slightly more off-the-beaten-path twist.
I’m not sure if you’ll be able to help since I’m skipping some of the classics in Kyushu, but you never know.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on whether this itinerary is realistic in terms of time spent in each place, travel time, and the overall pace of the road trip. Just to note, I already have my translated driver’s license.
Here’s the itinerary:
- **Day 1:** YAMAGA / overnight in Yamaga or Kumamoto
Depart from Osaka by train early in the morning to Kumamoto, pick up the rental car, then drive to Yamaga for a visit. Overnight in Yamaga or Kumamoto.
- **Days 2–4:** HITOYOSHI / overnight in Hitoyoshi
Drive to Hitoyoshi for 3 days and 3 nights, including a visit to the town, nearby waterfalls, a walk along the Kuma River, a tea producer visit, and some craft activities.
- **Day 5:** AYA / overnight in Miyazaki
Drive to Aya, visit the town, craft activities, the forest, and the suspension bridge.
- **Day 6:** AOSHIMA - NICHINAN COAST / overnight in Miyazaki
Udo Shrine + Aoshima + scenic drive along the coast.
- **Day 7:** MIYAKONOJO / overnight in Shibushi
Drive to a waterfall, then continue along the Nichinan Coast if there’s anything left to see, or visit Kojima Island.
- **Day 8:** SHIBUSHI
Walk around the port and along the Osumi Peninsula coast, maybe as far as the Kishira/Hetsuka coast, or visit a black pork producer, a market gardener, or a tea producer. Overnight at a farm?
- **Day 9:** KANOYA / overnight in Kagoshima
Visit Ogawara Waterfall, Nishiharadai Park, and Kannon Cave, then Sugawara Shrine, followed by the drive to Kagoshima.
- **Day 10:** KAGOSHIMA / overnight in Kagoshima
Explore the city + whisky distillery in Hioki.
- **Days 11–12:** KOSHIKISHIMA / 2 nights in Koshikishima
- **Day 13:** AKUNE OSHIMA / overnight in Akune
Ferry, then drive to Akune Oshima with a stop at Sendai Taki.
- **Days 14–15:** AMAKUSA / overnight in Amakusa
Drive via Nagashima and visit Shimoshima (Amakusa).
- **Day 16:** AMAKUSA / overnight in Fukuoka
Drive back toward Kumamoto with stops along the way, return the rental car, then take the train to Fukuoka.
- **Days 17–18:** FUKUOKA CITY / overnight in Fukuoka
Possible half-day excursion to Nokonoshima, Munakata, or Nanzoin.
Any thoughts or suggestions?
Too ambitious?
I could add an extra day but would prefer not to if it means less rushing around.
Hi everyone,
To simplify logistics, I'm considering renting a car for 5/6 days in the Japanese Alps before heading to Kyoto solo.
Is driving difficult or even risky in this region?
Thanks for your feedback!
Tara
We’re arriving as a group of three in Tokyo on Saturday, October 17th, then heading straight to Kyoto by direct train.
On Sunday and Monday, we’ll explore Kyoto, and in the evening, we’ll take a train to Osaka to spend the night.
On Tuesday, we’ll pick up a rental car at Itami Airport for a 6-day/5-night road trip around Shikoku:
- 2 nights in the Iya Valley
- Thursday morning, we’ll head to Matsuyama for 2 nights.
- Saturday, we’ll visit Mima (town, a few temples + overnight stay) and return on Sunday to drop off the car in Osaka.
We’ll leave very early on Monday the 26th by plane for Aomori in northern Honshu, where we’ll pick up another rental car at the airport for a 5-day/4-night trip:
- Day 1: Tsugaru Peninsula (Takayam Inari, Cape Tappi, Kanita); overnight in Kanita
- Day 2: Ferry transfer to the Mutsu Peninsula (cliffs, Lake Usori); overnight in Shimofuro
- Day 3: Head to the Hakkoda Mountains and onsens galore; overnight TBD
- Day 4: Return the car in Aomori by noon and explore the city before taking the train to Tokyo in the evening
We’ll spend Friday night in Tokyo, wander around on Saturday, and head home on Sunday.
Thoughts on the road feasibility of this trip? We’ll be there right in the middle of Koyo season, so it’ll be busy...
I know it’s a lot of driving, but there are two of us who can take turns. We’re not afraid of driving, even in the mountains and on the left side! Just wondering, are we going to be rushing, or is this manageable? AI says it’s all good, but it’s not the one driving...
Any tips for booking accommodations in the Iya Valley? Not many places have email addresses or websites (I know Booking.com exists, but not all listings are on there... and given the season, I think it’s better to book ahead!). Same question applies for northern Honshu.
For the rental car, I’m thinking of going with Alamo since at least it’s in French and straightforward, but are there any direct rental companies with user-friendly websites (Toyota Rentacar, ugh... 🏴☠️)?
Another question: With so many trains, is it even necessary to book them in advance? Can we just go to the ticket counter and grab seats on the spot?
For paying for the rental car, do we need a credit or debit card?
I saw there are several "authentic" villages about 90/100 km from Beijing.
Including: Lingshui, Liuliqu, Sangyu, Miaoying, and Cuandixia.
Has anyone visited any of them? I was thinking of choosing Cuandixia—what do you think?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone!
It seems there’s a flea market in Tianjin that’s way more interesting than the one in Beijing. I’ve been searching online but can’t find the right one… The one I’m looking for is called gu wan shi chang (my PC won’t display the Chinese characters…). Does anyone have the address and has anyone been there before? The one in Beijing has lost a lot of its charm over the past 10 years, so I wanted to find another. Thanks!
I’m looking for advice from seasoned travelers about a roughly one-month trip to Japan.
From late October to late November 2026.
We often travel in Southeast Asia but have never been to Japan.
Based on what I’ve read, I’d love to hear your thoughts on:
- Is traveling day-to-day, without booking hotels or trains in advance, possible in Japan?
(I’ve read many travel journals and blogs that say everything was booked way in advance… but that’s not how we usually travel.)
- Will the Japan Rail Pass be worth it for us?
(According to an old simulator, I’m looking at around 400 € for trains compared to 570 € for the JRP.)
Here’s our rough itinerary (which may change):
- Arrival Osaka: 3 nights with Nara
- Hiroshima and Miyajima Island: 3 nights
- Kurashiki or Naoshima: 2 nights
- Himeji: 1 night
- Kyoto: 4 nights
- Kanazawa: 2 nights
- Takayama and Shirakawa-go: 3 nights
- Around Mount Fuji: 3 nights
- Tokyo with Nikko: 6 nights (no theme parks)
Departure from Tokyo
I booked my trip from May 5 to 26, 2027. I’m starting to plan my itinerary and look for hotels (I know it’s early!). While I’ve found some in Seoul and Busan, I’m noticing that elsewhere—like Yeosu—most hotels aren’t available (on Booking.com, for example, almost all are unavailable). AI tells me not to worry because hotels in South Korea only open bookings 6 months in advance, so it’s normal to see most of them unavailable on booking sites.
Could you confirm this for me and, of course, reassure me (!)? Thanks so much.
philippe
We’re back from a one-month trip to China and wanted to share our itinerary. Hopefully, this can give future travelers some ideas for exploring this beautiful country.
Beijing → Temple of Heaven / Forbidden City
Jinshanling → Great Wall
Zhangjiajie → Tianmen Mountain and Heaven’s Gate
Wulingyuan → Avatar Mountains / sandstone pillars
Fenghuang → riverside houses
Ping’an → terraced rice fields
Tiantouzhai → village / rice terraces
Yangshuo → Li River / karst mountains
Shanghai → skyline with the Oriental Pearl Tower
Our travel journal is available on our travel journal, written day by day. You’ll find lots of photos and some travel tips there.
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung.
Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Hi there,
I’d like to do this cycling route over 2 or 3 days. I’m struggling to figure out and find a (good) bike rental that lets me start in Onomichi and drop off in Imabari. Can anyone help with great tips for rentals and accommodations along the route? How do I get back to Onomichi afterward?
I’m back with my detailed itinerary for 20 days in South Korea—it’s my first trip to the country. Our idea is to experience a more rural and cultural Korea. Here’s the rough plan: Seoul for 4 nights at the start and 1 night at the end, Gurye for 4 nights, Suncheon for 4 nights, Namhae for 4 nights, and Gyeongju for 2 nights. The goal is to pick a base and explore the surrounding areas. What do you think of this itinerary? Anything you’d change?
thanks
hi everyone, we're heading out for a 12-day trek in the Japanese Alps. We're bringing freeze-dried meals like we always do. We just found out that importing meat is banned, even freeze-dried. Is that true? We already bought them. They're commercially made freeze-dried meals. Online, it's not specified that they have to be "commercially made" because you can make your own freeze-dried food. And since we've heard they're really strict in Japan, can anyone confirm this for us? thanks
I haven’t found what I’m looking for despite my searches!
For a 15-day trip next spring, I’d like to buy a card (preferably an eSIM, but a physical SIM is fine too) that also lets me make calls in the country (to contact a hotel, a tourist spot, etc.).
You can easily find options just for data, but I haven’t come across any that include calls, texts, or even MMS.
Could you recommend something?
hi there
I’m planning a trip in September—here’s my rough itinerary. What do you think? Is it easy to rent a car to get around between my stops? Thanks so much!
Philippe
StopNightsFull daysSeoul44Gurye (Jirisan)43Suncheon43Namhae43Gyeongju21Seoul1—