Nous partons à la fin de la semaine pour 1 mois en Namibie. Réservation 4x4 avec tente : done !
Nous sommes deux filles et avons l'habitude de voyager mais jamais en 4x4!
Pour ce voyage nous aurions aimé sortir des sentiers battus (en toute sécurité), prendre notre temps dans certaines régions, sans pour autant faire l'impasse sur les sites essentiels.
Nos nuits se feront en camping hormis celles indiquées en lodge.
Pour cela on a concocté deux itinéraires (nous n'avons qu'un impératif, la nuit du 5 et 6 à Namibrandt au namibrandt family hideout), avec l'aide des carnets de voyage et de tous vos conseils sur voyage forum, mais on est un peu à la bourre!!! On a besoin de vous pour peaufiner tout ça!! Si vous avez des conseils sur les camping aussi n'hésitez pas, ce n'est pas toujours facile de trouver les bons sites.
Itinéraire 1 : moins classique, explorant plus l'extrême nord du pays et ne passant que par le coté occidental du sud du pays :
ITINERAIRE 1
29/03 Windhoek
30 louer 4x4 / Windhoek --> naukluft mountain (tsauchab river camp)
31 naukluft mountain avec waterkloof trail puis -->sessriem (sesriem camp site)
1 sesriem
2 sesriem -->Lüderitz (sur Shark island)
3 Lüderitz / visite de kolmanskopp / -->aus (klein aus vista)
4 aus / rando
5 aus --> namibrandt (namibrandt family hideout)
6 namibrandt
7 namibrandt --> namib naukluft park (bloekoppie)
8 namib naukluft park --> spitzkoppe (spitzkoppe rest camp)
9 spitzkoppe --> twyfelfontain (lodge : camp kipwe)
10 twyfelfontain (lodge : camp kipwe)
11 twyfelfontain - Palmwag concession --> explo du damaraland ; itinéraire de 3j et 2 nuits sur les conseils de nammanu par la 825 (merci merci :))) )/ camping sauvage
12 damaraland / camping sauvage près du canyon (twee palm, Beurab Pass)
13 sessfoutain --> purros (ou dormir?)
14 purros (ou dormir?)
15 purros --> epupa falls ( camping à epupa camp)
16 epupa falls (camping à epupa camp)
17 Epupa falls --> oshakati (camping au camp nakambale) (l'idée est de voir un peu d'Afrique, aller là ou la plupart des namibiens vivent)
18 Oshakati (camp nakambale)
19 Oshakati --> etosha (par la nehete lyam pinpara gate = porte nord) / (camping à namuti rest camp)
20 etosha ( camping haldi rest camp)
21 sortie etosha par Anderson gate --> Waterberg (camping waterberg wildness lodge)
22 Waterberg / rando
23 Waterberg --> omaruru (lodge et repos au Erongo wilderness lodge)
24 lodge Erongo (on souffle!!)
25 omaruru --> Windhoek
Nous partons le 29 ; il nous reste donc 3 jours en plus à caser selon vos avis éclairés (les zones trop speed, zones non vus…) ; peut être une nuit au naukluf mountain? Une halte entre purros et epupa falls ou epupa falls et Oshakati?...!
ITINERAIRE 2 : plus classique…
29/03 Windhoek
30 Windhoek --> Mariental (bagathel kalahari game ranch)
31 Mariental -->keepmanskopp (?)
1 keepmanskopp --> fish river canyon (ais ais / camping?)
2 fish river canyon --> luderitz (sur shark island)
3 ludertiz / visite de kolmanskopp / -->aus (klien aus vista)
4 aus / rando
5 aus --> namibrandt (namibrandt family hideout)
6 namibrandt
7 namibrandt --> sesriem (sesriem camp site)
8 sesriem
9 sesriem -->naukluft mountain (tsauchab river camp)
10 naukluft mountain avec waterkloof trail puis --> naukuft montain
11 Naukluf mountain --> namib naukluft park (bloekoppie)
12 namib naukluft park --> spitzkoppe (spitzkoppe rest camp)
13 spitzkoppe --> twyfelfontain (lodge : kipwe)
14 twyfelfontain
15 twyfelfontain --> explo du damaraland ; itinéraires sur les conseils de nammanu par la 825 (merci merci :))) )/ camping sauvage
16 damaraland / camping sauvage près du canyon (près sesfontain)
17 sessfoutain --> purros (dodo ?)
18 purros
19 purros --> région d'étosha (otjitongwie guest farm)
20 Région etosha --> etosha (entrée par anderson gate) (halali rest camp)
21 etosha (namitoni rest camp)
22 Etosha (sortie par von tinderquist gate) -->Waterberg ((Waterberg wildness lodge)
23 Waterberg / rando
24 Waterberg --> Omaruru (lodge et repos au erongo wilderness lodge)
54 lodge
26 Omaruru --> Windhoek
Il nous reste là 2 jours à caser :))))
QUESTION SUBSIDIAIRE : un GPS et un telephone satellite est il nécessaire pour ces itinéraires ?
Bonjour
En "autant" de temps, dans votre deuxième option, je trouve un peu dommage que vous n'alliez pas à Epupa falls... c'est tellement beau... Ca a été un peu mon coup de coeur de notre deuxième voyage en Namibie.
A Puros, le plus simple c'est de dormir au campsite ou si vous avez envie d'un lit, dans une des petites maisons à côté, gérées aussi par le camp communautaire. Elles sont confortables et il y a une cuisine commune.
Dans les deux cas, je vois que vous zappez Okaukuejo à Etosha... je sais que le sujet est hyper controversé, 😛 mais le trou d'eau du camping, quelle magnifique occasion de passer des soirées spectacles à admirer les animaux au bord de l'eau...
Bonnes vacances...
Anne-Marie
ps: en sentiers pas très battus, il y a la région des Sans, une incursion vers Tsumkwe, même en s'arrêtant avant genre à Omatako valley restcamp, c'est une plongée dans un autre monde, que peu de voyageurs font...
Merci Caperam, on va aller jusque epupa falls! nous avions aussi envie d'une incursion vers Tsumkwe, on va essayer de caser ça avec nos 2jours en plus!
Nous partons dans 4jours!!!!! rien n'est vraiment réservé hormis le 4x4...
Nous avons hâte d'y être mais c'est un peu stressant de préparer son voyage dans l'urgence, d'où notre besoin de conseils avisés!
Pour commencer: je connais pas mal la Namibie mais voyage à un rythme moins soutenu que la plupart des touristes: j' ai toute la vie (ou ce qui en reste) devant moi, et ai ma propre Land Rover dans la région (pour le moment au Malawi).
Et même pour un mois, vouloir visiter le Sud (Lüderitz, Fish River) et le Nord en un mois me parait relever du grand écart, surtout si vous voulez "traîner" un peu dans des zones moins fréquentées (Damaraland et Kaokoland, que je ne saurais que recommander. Ces régions sont avec Caprivi (hors circuit pour vous) celles que je préfère..
D' où entre autres l' intérêt de passer qq jours à Palmwag (itinéraire 1). La visite de la concession mérite bien un ou deux jours (soyez quand même très prudentes, les pistes sont ultra caillouteuses et peut être pas évidentes pour des débutant(e)s. Sinon, vous pouvez y aller avec le Lodge).
Question à cet égard: avez vous un GPS, des cartes, des guides ? Si oui lesquels?
Cela vaut réellement la peine de télécharger la carte Namibie, cela doit coûter dans les 15 Euros, cela vous donne les temps de trajet réels, de la difficulté des pistes, cela vous indique également les hébergements et autres POI, et vous donne le trajet retour si vous vous perdez quelque part.
Si vous n' en avez pas, ne vous aventurez pas en dehors de pistes à peu près fréquentées.
J' ignore si vous avez évalué le kilométrage; si c' est moi, je ne prévois jamais plus de 120 / 150 km par jour en moyenne (soit 3.600 à 4.500 km pour un mois, avec les détours cela fera 4.300 à 5.400 km). Cela vous donne une moyenne de 3 heures mini de voiture par jour, ce qui est amplement suffisant si vous n' êtes pas des automédons forcenés.
Vous pouvez compter sans risques une moyenne de 80 kmh sur routes goudronnées (la limite est 120 et beaucoup de locaux roulent à 140, l' accidentologie montre que les routes son dangereuses, vous n' êtes pas forcées de foncer), 50 à 60 maxi de moyenne sur les pistes principales (gravel roads, sur lesquelles il faut être très prudent, l' adhérence est nulle et nombre de vacanciers finissent sur le toit après un coup de patin à vitesse excessive), 20 à 30 kmh de moyenne sur les autres pistes (voire moins, par exemple Palmwag / Puros par les "backroads" qui longent le parc de la Skeletton coast demande réellement deux jours pour 350 km - de mémoire)..
Pour les guides, le seul vraiment bon est le Bradt: www.bradtguides.com
Je connais mal les cartes papier, je crois savoir que la carte Tracks 4 Africa est la meilleure, vous pouvez la trouver à Windhoek, T4A vous indique sur leur site l' adresse des revendeurs.
Pour le Damaraland / Kaokoland, méfiez vous quand même (peu probable en cette saison, mais je me suis planté en Mars 2014 dans la rivière à Puros et ai mis 3 heures à m' en sortir), méfiez vous quand même des "flash floods" (crues dues à des orages, comme les oueds au Maroc).
Autrement et par goût personnel je ne passerais pas trop de temps à Etosha (je sais, les avis divergent, on peut y voir quasiment toutes les bestioles mais c' est un peu industriel à mon goût), ni non plus au Waterberg (il y a de belles randonnées à pieds mais c' est une réserve totalement artificielles, et la visiter ne peut se faire qu' avec des "game drives" fastidieux et onéreux).
Enfin, demandez à votre loueur le mode d' emploi précis de votre 4x4 (gammes basses et longue, blocage de différentiel, gestion des pressions de pneus..).
Merci avant tout pour ton très gentil message.
Je pense que tu as raison, pour prendre notre temps, nous ne descendrons pas dans l'extrême sud de la Namibie !
Nous n'avons pas encore de GPS mais devrions arrivées à en chopé un avant notre départ et donc de mettre track4africa dessus (le plus tôt serai le mieux, aujourd'hui normalement). Pour le moment nous avons une carte freytagen 1:1000000.
Nous ajusterons alors notre itinéraire avec le gps pour afin que les distances soit faisables et agréablse comme tu nous l'as conseillé.
Nous avons le Bradt, le lonely et le petit futé. On est bien d'accord, seul le bradt est informatif (mais en anglais ! un anglais simple mais qui reste plus dure à lire que le français), les deux autres sont une succession d'adresse.
Merci aussi concernant ton opinion sur etosha et Waterberg ! La Namibie est un nouveau type de voyage pour nous ! on a beaucoup voyager fuyant les zones touristiques. Céline à vécu 6 mois en brousse au Togo, moi moins longtemps au Burkina et ce qui nous attire ce sont les gens !!! Nous allons donc passer plus de temps dans nord pour ces raisons Nous irons voir Etosha, peut être pas Waterberg !
Hello everyone. After a dozen 4x4 trips to this country before COVID, I’m planning another departure at the end of 2026 and early 2027—around three weeks starting December 27th. Main goal: Merzouga to Chegaga, sand, sand, and more sand. Mostly camping and a few campgrounds here and there.
After 40 years of traveling in Morocco, I want to explore a new area by 4x4—the Western Moroccan Sahara, which I don’t know very well.
I have plenty of tracks and itineraries, but I’d love some info to help me decide on the best route:
Part 1:
I want to do the ASSA - SMARA crossing. Basically, I have two options: the first follows the Draa River and goes through M’SIED, and the second is much further south, passing through LABOUIRAT and heading straight to SMARA.
If you have any details on road conditions, driving restrictions, etc., I’d really appreciate it.
Part 2:
SMARA - BIR ANZERANE - DAKHLA – here, I also have two routes.
The first heads west from Smara toward Sidi Kathari.
The second goes east from SMARA and gets pretty close to the border at one point (about 10 km away).
Both routes meet up about 150 km later and are nearly identical from there to BIR ANZERANE and DAKHLA.
Hi,
For next summer’s vacation, I’m thinking of returning to the Sahara after visiting Tamanrasset and the Hoggar, which was stunning—not to mention the Tuareg hospitality.
I’d like to explore the sandy desert this time since the Hoggar was 80% rocky.
So, I’m wondering which city I should prioritize if I want to go there in late July–early August for the landscapes, extreme heat, and guides offering 4x4 and camel treks. Also, if there are any recommended guides for those in the know and a decent hotel.
I’m torn between Djanet, In Salah, Adrar, Ghardaïa, and Timimoun.
I’m of Algerian origin, so no visa or other formalities to worry about.
Thanks.
Hello, I’m preparing for a Tunisia-Algeria road trip.
I need to know if we can cross the Sahara to reach Djanet and Tamanrasset by road freely,
After that, obviously off-road in the desert with a guide.
What do the authorities say?
My trip: northern and southern Tunisia, a stroll in the desert.
Crossing the Tunisia-Algeria border via the Taleb Larbi customs.
I’ve already done this route through an agency, but this time we want to do it on our own.
Then heading down to Djanet for eight to fifteen days in the desert with Mouloud, a local guide.
Direction Tamanrasset: road and tracks, the mountains of the Assekrem, the Hermitage of Père de Foucauld.
Return via the Trans-Saharan Highway.
Visit to northern Algeria, then back by boat from Oran to Spain.
Dates: late December to mid-February.
We’ve got plenty of time.
If another crew is interested, we’re already two vehicles.
Looking forward to your replies.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Russia and Mongolia, starting from France.
Crossing the border at Poland/Belarus or Georgia/Russia—other borders seem either closed or complicated.
Tourist visas for 3 months with multiple entries.
Do you have any info on Russian companies that cover a 4x4 vehicle for 3 months, and what prices in rubles or euros you’ve paid?
Which bank did you use for expenses? (EuroMastercard and Visa cards no longer work.)
Regarding Russian SIM cards, a new system called "Gosuslugi" has been introduced. How long did it take you to get one, and what steps did you follow?
Hi there,
We’ll be traveling in January 2027 in a 4x4 with a rooftop tent with our three kids, from Johannesburg to Cape Town. We’ve already booked several campsites in national parks (Golden Gate / Mountain Zebra / Addo Elephant / Garden Route).
We still need to reserve the stretch between De Hoop Nature Reserve and Cape Town. Any suggestions?
We’d love to stay around Cape Town for 5 days to explore the wine route, the peninsula, and do some hikes in Table Mountain.
Any camping recommendations? Or, on the contrary, places to avoid?
Also, we have 2 nights left near Wilderness National Park / Knysna. Any recommendations?
Thanks so much for your help!
For my 60th birthday (yes, I’m jumping the gun a bit!), I’m starting to plan a self-drive trip to Tanzania (in June).
I also considered Zimbabwe but I’m worried it might be a bit chilly at night in June.
I’ve revisited an itinerary I’d thought about before, tweaking it since I’ll have more days to dedicate to this trip. Still no big northern classics for the same reasons as before (too expensive, too crowded, too many tour operators).
Here’s what I’ve got so far:
(Arrival/departure from Kilimanjaro Airport)
Night 1: Arusha
Night 2: Arusha
Night 3: Lake Manyara
Night 4: On the way to Iringa (any ideas???)
Night 5: Iringa
Nights 6–8: Ruaha NP
Nights 9–10: Mikumi NP
Night 11: Bagamoyo
Nights 12–15: Beach
Nights 16–17: Lushoto
Nights 18–19: Mkomazi NP
Night 20: Toward Marangu – eastern Kilimanjaro
Night 21: Western Kilimanjaro
End of trip
All your ideas, tweaks, info, and suggestions on this route are welcome!
I could move one beach night somewhere else if needed.
Also, if you have a car rental company to recommend or thoughts on the bandas rented in the parks, I’m all ears!
Finally, what are the roads like in Ruaha in June? The rental company I’m looking at seems to allow this park with a small 4x4. (Off-limits: Serengeti and Natron)
We’re planning a long-term trip starting in April with our 4x4, beginning in the USA.
We’re still looking for car insurance that covers Canada and the USA.
We’ve read quite a few forums, but we’re hoping for some help (from fellow travelers).
Hi,
we’re planning to visit a park again.
Could you point us toward the camps in Gonarezhou Park?
>We’re traveling completely self-sufficiently.
We love wildlife.
Thanks for any tips you can share!
JP
Hi there, we’ll be in Mozambique in early December 2026 and we’d like to travel from Vilanculos to Beira by car or bus to reach Beira airport. After that, we’re planning to visit Gorongosa National Park before flying back to France from Beira. From what we’ve heard, the road to Beira is tricky, especially at this time of year (start of the rainy season). Could anyone share their thoughts or suggest a solution? Thanks so much for your help!
Anne
Hi there,
I’m heading to Lesotho in a few days and I’m struggling to find info on the best route between Katse Dam and Sehlathebe National Park. There’s a fairly "direct" route from Thaba Tseka, but the roads seem rough, and we’re not exactly 4x4 pros. Anyone have any tips to share? Thanks!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Mozambique in October and are looking for either a 4x4 or 4x2 rental in Maputo, or a driver transfer option to reach:
- Ponta Do Ouro
- Tofo
- Vilankulos
The idea is to be self-sufficient for sightseeing and stops while still being able to access certain lodges or beaches that require a 4x2.
Do you have any contacts, addresses, or ideas to share?
Thanks in advance,
Hello,
We're hitting the road again in 2027 to discover new countries and cultures.
Could anyone give me some tips on driving from Ulaanbaatar to Lake Baikal and the route to take?
Thanks, and safe travels to those who are setting off!
We’re planning a 4x4 trip from Belgium to Central Asia, passing through Georgia, Russia, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, and Kyrgyzstan.
For these countries, our national insurance obviously doesn’t cover the vehicle, so we’ll need to get local insurance.
Will it be a problem if the vehicle is registered under person A and the national insurance is under person B? Both A and B will be in the vehicle, and both will be listed as drivers on the insurance.
When we get the local insurance, if we again list A and B as drivers, does the order matter? Could we get stuck at the border for this reason?
Hi,
For those who’ve driven on Iceland’s gravel roads in their own or a rented Duster, could you tell me what tires were fitted on the vehicle?
Were they All Terrain tires or more "standard" ones like all-season tires, for example?
Follow-up question: if they were "standard" tires, did that cause any issues on the gravel roads and rough terrain?
Thanks so much for any info you can share.
Best,
Marc
Hi there,
I'm planning a 4x4 road trip from Darwin to Broome with a rooftop tent in July 2026.
I'd like to know if I need to book overnight stops in advance or if I can just wing it and stop wherever I feel like it?
Some evenings, we'd like to stop and make use of campsite facilities (restaurant, shop, showers, toilets).
What do you recommend?
Do I need a permit?
My rough itinerary looks like this:
Darwin - Kakadu
Kakadu - Nitmiluk
Nitmiluk - Kununurra
Kununurra - Purnululu
Purnululu - El Questro
El Questro - Mt Elizabeth - Bell Gorge - Broome
I’m planning a trip to Iceland for next July-August, with a car and tent, and I’m wondering about booking campsites.
From your experience, is it necessary or even essential to book campsites in advance, or do you always manage to find a spot to pitch your tent?
We’ll also have the option to sleep in the car without pitching the tent.
Does that give us the flexibility to stay outside a campsite for a night here and there?
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip in the Middle Atlas, starting and ending in Fez and heading down to the south of Midelt, the Assoul Massif.... We’ll be traveling with two small 4x4s.
I’m looking for detailed maps of this region that include small roads and tracks.
Last year, we had a fantastic road trip in the Anti-Atlas and High Atlas using Erfahren maps, but unfortunately, they don’t cover the area we’re interested in this year.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Dominique
We’re planning a 13-day family road trip in Morocco this July, with six people in a Toyota Prado 4x4 (renting in Marrakech).
We’ll alternate between bivouacking and small hotels/riads depending on the stops.
Here’s the planned route (in this order):
Marrakech
→ Ouarzazate
→ Draa Valley
→ Zagora
→ Erg Chegaga
→ Lake Iriki
→ Foum Zguid
→ Tata
→ Tafraoute
→ Aït Mansour
→ Tiznit
→ Mirleft
→ Taroudant
→ Back to Marrakech
Our goal:
Atlas Mountains + desert + dunes + plateaus + valleys + a bit of coastline.
We’ll cover about 1,700 km in total.
We’re planning:
Bivouacking in the Chegaga/Iriki area
Flexible for the rest (booking the day before or same day)
Sand gear: traction plates, compressor, tow strap, roof rack
Questions:
Is the Zagora → Chegaga → Iriki → Foum Zguid crossing in July doable on our own (single vehicle, no guide)?
Are there any truly technical or risky sections between Chegaga and Iriki?
Does the overall itinerary seem manageable in 13 days without rushing?
Any suggestions for great bivouac spots or particularly interesting stops along this route?
The points on the route are provisional overnight stops. Some spots will include two nights in the same area.
We’re used to off-road driving, but not yet in the Moroccan desert.
Thanks in advance for your feedback and tips! 😊
Good evening
I could use some advice 🙂
Our trip to Namibia is planned for June/July 2026.
We’re struggling a bit with timing and choosing activities for the part of the trip between Sesriem and Brandberg.
Day 1: Sesriem to Mirabib
Day 2: Mirabib to Swakopmund – visit Swakopmund, overnight in Swakopmund
Day 3: Sandwich Harbour – overnight in Swakopmund
Day 4: Kayaking with the seals + the living dunes – overnight in Swakopmund
Day 5: Moon Landscape, Henties Bay + Cape Cross – overnight at White Lady Lodge in Brandberg
Does this itinerary seem realistic to you? Is Cape Cross really worth the trip? If I had to choose between Cape Cross and kayaking with the seals, which would you recommend?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Hélix
My son and I are heading to Georgia this summer to explore the High Caucasus (Svaneti, Kazbek, and Tusheti regions). For this, we’re planning to rent a 4x4.
However, the rental agencies we’ve found prohibit driving on the tracks to Omalo (Tusheti) and/or Ushguli (Svaneti).
Do you know of any agencies in Tbilisi (local and reliable) that allow rented 4x4s to drive on these tracks? If so, which ones?
Hi everyone,
I’m starting to plan an itinerary for September 2027 focused on Zimbabwe and Zambia. I’d love to visit Gonarezhou National Park—I see there are two sectors: the Mwenezi Region in the south and the area around the Runde River in the north. Should I cover both sectors or just focus on the northern region?
For the parks along the Zambezi River, is it better to visit Mana Pools on the Zimbabwe side or Lower Zambezi on the Zambia side?
Thanks in advance for any tips on the parks in these two countries.
Have a great day, everyone.
We’re spending 18 days in New Zealand from 05/04 to 05/21, arriving in QUEENSTOWN and leaving from AUCKLAND.
Any ideas for a road trip that covers the highlights of both islands but only changes hotels every 3–4 nights?
Thanks.
For our trip to Georgia in July, I’d like to rent a 4x4 starting from Tbilisi.
Do you have any rental companies to recommend?
The traditional rentals like Hertz, Avis, etc. seem way overpriced compared to local companies—what do you think? Are they properly insured?
Has anyone here tried Geo Rent Car, Auto 4 Rental, or Sur Price?
Also, I’m looking for info on the condition of the Ushguli–Lentekhi track—is it passable?
Hi everyone,
A well-prepped 4x4, a travel plan across Africa in stages since I’ve got kids to see regularly and work to earn a living.
I’m leaving in November for about a month with the goal of reaching Senegal via Mauritania. I’d love to share this trip with someone who wants to discover Mauritania and a bit of Senegal... and also experience life on board a 4x4 in the desert or bush, sometimes sleeping in the vehicle or in hostels/small hotels for comfort. I want to share this rediscovery because two’s better than one!
Just traveling, exploring, and living! !
I’m planning to explore Argentine and Chilean Patagonia for a month in December 2019.
I’m looking for a rental company (or several) that offers single-cab 4x4 pick-ups with a fitted camper cell for two people. I’m specifically after a vehicle with an indoor shower for extra comfort ;)
So, no vans—at least not from the rental companies I’ve seen so far.
While browsing the forum, I came across the Chilean rental company Holiday Rent. But do you have any recommendations for Argentine rentals?
Because, if I can’t return the vehicle in the same city as pickup, I’d prefer—and it’d likely be cheaper—to at least return it in the same country.
I’m traveling through Argentina and Chile (as well as Paraguay and Uruguay) with a 2019 Toyota Hilux Euro 6. Could anyone tell me if the local diesel is suitable for its engine, or if I need to take any special precautions (like adding an additive, for example) for these countries?
I’d also like to know if driving at high altitudes is possible, and up to what elevation—or if I should worry about the vehicle going into limp mode?
If that happens, what should I do?
