Bonjour,
Je pars du 20 au 27 août en couple au Portugal pour la 1ère fois; j'ai bien conscience qu'une semaine passe très vite, donc je veux essayer d'organiser un circuit à l'avance. D'après les informations trouvées sur les forums, voici ce que j'ai pu établir:
1er jour: visite de Porto
2ème jour: départ de Porto vers Lisbonne en train
3ème jour: visite de Lisbonne
4ème jour: Départ de Lisbonne en voiture de location vers Sintra, puis vers Obidos
5ème jour: visite de la région d'Obidos et Peniche, puis retour sur Porto
6ème jour: visite de la vallée du Douro depuis Porto (en train, bateau?? à déterminer)
nous avons l'habitude de voyager et on a un peu la bougeotte. Donc que pensez-vous de cet itinéraire, est-il réalisable? Concernant les moyens de transport, est-ce cohérent?
Je suis ouverte à toute remarque et proposition!
merci de votre aide précieuse!
Ce parcours est tout à fait envisageable mais effectivement un peu rapide à chaque endroit !
Pour le train pas de soucis, les liaisons entre Porto et Lisbonne sont excellentes et tu en auras pour 2h30 environ.
Par contre un jour pour visiter Lisbonne me paraît très court. Le mieux sur place sera sans doute de prendre un bus Hop on ho off (ceux où tu montes et descends quand tu veux), ça te permettra d'avoir une vue d'ensemble de la ville.
Pour Sintra, tout dépend si vous pensez visiter ou non les châteaux et palais... Sintra est une petite ville mais l'interêt est la visite du palais de Pena, et les autres...
Pour la vallée du Douro, en bateau c'est une expérience bien plus intéressante mais très chère en générale ! En générale les croisières prévoient l'aller en bateau et le retour en train. Mais tu peux aussi longer le Douro en voiture, ça permet de profiter des paysages à un coût moindre (mais c'est pas pareil, c'est sûr!)
Comme dit précédemment, tout ceci me parait court et précipité... en une semaine selon moi il vaut mieux se contenter d'une région (Porto ou Lisbonne) sinon vous allez courir et passer à côté de pas mal de choses !
Si ça t'intéresse je te propose les articles de mon blog sur Porto et alentours (l'article sur Lisbonne viendra bientôt !)
Comme vous l'on dit les autres personnes, je pense que c'est beaucoup trop court pour faire tout ce que vous souhaitez faire malheureusement... Sachant que pour Porto, il faut au moins 3 jours, Lisbonne bien 5 jours sans compter les alentours... La vallée du Douro il y a de petites croisières de 3h ou cela peut durer plus longtemps...
Si vous atterrissez à Porto, restez plutôt dans le coin : Porto, le Douro et un peu le nord, sinon Lisbonne et alentours...
En ce qui concerne les transports, les trains ou autocars fonctionnent très bien au Portugal.
N'hésitez pas si vous avez des questions!
Très bonne connaissance du Portugal
Voyages effectués: Tromso, Londres, Italie, Prague, Budapest, Vienne, Suisse, Istanbul, Croatie; Brésil (4 mois) ; Punta Cana ; NYCx2 ; Algérie ; Cuba; Martinique
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Je rejoins les commentaires précédents, ton circuit me semble trop chargé. Je crains que vous ne courriez +++, sans avoir le temps d'en profiter... Porto et Lisbonne sont des villes superbes qui méritent vraiment que l'on s'y attarde plus d'une journée. Depuis Porto vous pouvez prévoir une journée d'excursion en train dans la vallée du Douro, avec arrêt de quelques heures à Pinhao si vous voulez marcher un peu dans le coin (plus d'infos et des photos ici : http://smilingaroundtheworld.com/2013/04/29/porto-j3-la-vallee-du-douro/)
En une semaine je vous recommande soit de vous consacrer sur une région, soit de faire uniquement Lisbonne + Porto avec liaison en train entre les 2.
Bon voyage !
"La liberté existe toujours, il suffit d'en payer le prix" - H. de Montherland
Mon blog tour du monde 2011-2012, devenu blog voyages, puis de nouveau blog tour du monde en 2016, puis blog de mon installation à la Réunion : www.smilingaroundtheworld.com
Merci à tous pour vos messages, qui m'ont permis de modifier mon parcours, et nous consacrer uniquement à Porto et Lisbonne. Merci aussi pour vos liens.
Bonjour,
Nous sommes deux couples et nous souhaitons partir au Portugal une semaine du 29/05 au 5/06.
Vu que vous avez fait le même voyage , je voudrais avoir votre avis:
2 nuits à Porto puis nous prenons le train pour Lisbonne, 4 nuits à Lisbonne puis retour à Poto en train et une nuit à Porto.
Je ne sais pas si nous devons louer une voiture pour visiter les villes autour de Porto et Lisbonne
Merci
Cordialement
Salut Brigitte!
Comme personne ne vous a encore répondu je me permets de m'incruster 😊
A quelle heure est votre vol le dernier jour? pourquoi revenir une dernière nuit à Porto? Le train entre les 2 villes est de minimum 2h35, donc c'est "plutôt rapide"... C'est dommage de perdre un peu de temps dans une nouvelle installation à l’hôtel etc. Mais ce n'est que mon avis 🙂
Ou alors à votre arrivée partez directement à Lisbonne... et terminez par 3 jours à Porto.
La location de la voiture n'est vraiment pas nécessaire.
A Lisbonne, il y a Sintra à visiter à côté mais accessible en train. (30/40 min, 2€15)
A Porto vous pouvez visitez sur 2 jours, et faire une mini croisière sur le Douro sur le 3ème jour.
Pour le train il y a ce site : cp.pt vous aurez ainsi les horaires et les prix!
Voilà!
Cécilia
Très bonne connaissance du Portugal
Voyages effectués: Tromso, Londres, Italie, Prague, Budapest, Vienne, Suisse, Istanbul, Croatie; Brésil (4 mois) ; Punta Cana ; NYCx2 ; Algérie ; Cuba; Martinique
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Bonjour Cécilia
Merci pour votre réponse ! Nous n'avons pas encore réservé l'avion, nous partons de ST Etienne et nous arriverions à Porto à16h40 et pour le retour , nous partons de Porto à 12h
Je ne sais pas trop comment m'organiser vu que nous aimerions voir Porto et Lisbonne!
Merci pour votre aide
Je vous en prie Brigitte.
Et les vols vers Lisbonne? je ne sais pas s'il y en a depuis St Etienne, mais c'est à creuser...
Effectivement, avec ces horaires là revenir à Porto le matin même est un peu risqué...
Je ne sais pas quelle solution est la meilleure!
Très bonne connaissance du Portugal
Voyages effectués: Tromso, Londres, Italie, Prague, Budapest, Vienne, Suisse, Istanbul, Croatie; Brésil (4 mois) ; Punta Cana ; NYCx2 ; Algérie ; Cuba; Martinique
https://voyageursgourmands.fr
Bonjour Cecilia,
Il n'y a pas de vols pour Lisbonne de St Etienne, je continue mes recherches....Je consulte tous les messages sur le Portugal, ça m'aide beaucoup !votre blog est super! merci
Brigitte🙂
Bonjour et toutes mes excuses pour le retard de réponse, je n'avais pas vu le message!
Donc, nous reprenions l'avion à Porto, c'est pourquoi, comme vous, nous sommes partis en train à Lisbonne, puis revenus en train à Porto; c'est très rapide.
Nous avons passé 4 jours à Lisbonne, et avons loué 1 jour une voiture sur les quatre jours, pour aller à Sintra, puis nous avons fait une petite boucle par l'océan, avant de revenir sur Lisbonne. C'était bien sympa.
De retour à Porto, nous avons pris un train pour aller dans la vallée du Douro, nous avons fait l'aller retour sur la journée. C'était très joli. Nous avons visité Porto le permier jour de notre arrivée au Portugal, et l'après-midi où nous sommes revenus de Lisbonne, ainsi que le matin avant de reprendre l'avion.
ça nous a suffi, c'est quand même beaucoup moins grand que Lisbonne.
N'hésitez pas en cas de question, je tenterai de répondre dans les temps!
Bonjour,
Nous sommes deux couples et nous souhaitons partir au Portugal une semaine du 29/05 au 5/06.
Vu que vous avez fait le même voyage , je voudrais avoir votre avis:
2 nuits à Porto puis nous prenons le train pour Lisbonne, 4 nuits à Lisbonne puis retour à Poto en train et une nuit à Porto.
Je ne sais pas si nous devons louer une voiture pour visiter les villes autour de Porto et Lisbonne
Merci
Cordialement
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I’m sharing my draft itinerary with you because I just booked our flight tickets, and I feel like it’s quite late in the season. So, I’d like to be sure about my stops before reserving the hotels. I’ll be traveling alone with my two adult children. We want to prioritize outdoor walks, avoid too many indoor visits (both for budget and preference), and not spend too much time on the road.
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D3: Head straight to Granada (1.5-hour drive), spend the day and night there
D4: Granada. Visit the Alhambra (Nasrid Palaces tour at 5 PM) and spend the night
D5: Head to Ronda (2.5-hour drive) and spend the night
D6: White Villages and overnight in Ronda
D7: Head straight to the Costa del Sol (e.g., Estepona), spend the day and night there
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Questions:
Since the Alhambra visit is only at 5 PM, and we’d already have the day to explore Granada, would arriving the day before be a mistake? Or should we skip this day and dedicate it elsewhere (Costa del Sol? Head toward Tabernas?)? The old town appeals to me, but maybe the Sacromonte neighborhood isn’t essential...
Same question for Ronda: should we dedicate a full day to it, or combine Ronda and the White Villages in one day?
Note that we love wandering around villages outside, so that might answer my question! :)
Final question: Is it better to rent the car at Malaga Airport or in the city? If we rent at the airport, we’d need a hotel with parking, which doesn’t seem easy. Or stay outside the city and park for free near the center if possible? I’ve read comments about taking a taxi to Malaga and then picking up the rental car at the airport the next morning. The taxi would really need to be affordable...
Thanks so much for your feedback and suggestions for visits during this little circuit.
Have a great day, everyone!
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