Alternative aux marathon xr
by Gandiji
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour, il est temps pour moi de changer mes pneus pour mon prochain voyage avec pistes et caillasses et je sais pas trop quoi prendre. j'ai eu jusque là des xr et possède sur un autre velo, des suprêmes qui n'ont pas un profil très piste.peut être le mondial ou marathon plus tour.... qu'en pensez vous
merci
justin
bonjour,
perso je suis équipé de marathon mondial en 40c et c'est de tres bon pneus meme si la protection anti crevaisons n'est pas aussi efficace que sur d'autres modèles. A priori, le Mondial est le successeur du XR. Je le trouve confortable, une bonne qualité de roulement et vraimment passe partout (bitume, chemins de tous types) et à l'air assez solide même si le mien qui doit avoir 2000 km a de belles entailles surement dû au verre en ville.
voilou
perso je suis équipé de marathon mondial en 40c et c'est de tres bon pneus meme si la protection anti crevaisons n'est pas aussi efficace que sur d'autres modèles. A priori, le Mondial est le successeur du XR. Je le trouve confortable, une bonne qualité de roulement et vraimment passe partout (bitume, chemins de tous types) et à l'air assez solide même si le mien qui doit avoir 2000 km a de belles entailles surement dû au verre en ville.
voilou
le Marathon Tour Plus n'existe qu'avec tringle rigide.
Je viens de faire 5000 km dont environ la moitié sur des pistes caillouteuses, et parfois un peu de sable ou de boue, avec des pneus Marathon Mondial à tringle souple. 2 crevaisons en 5000 km sur l'ensemble des 2 pneus (une fois épines dures, une fois fil de fer d'armature de pneu de camion), alors que j'ai plusieurs fois roulé sur des miettes de verre. J'ai échangé pneu avant et arrière à 4000 km environ, car l'arrière commençait être bien usé, mais à part ça pas de problème.
Le Marathon Supreme est un très bon pneu de route, mais moins résistant aux crevaisons et un peu trop lisse pour rouler sur piste.
Je viens de faire 5000 km dont environ la moitié sur des pistes caillouteuses, et parfois un peu de sable ou de boue, avec des pneus Marathon Mondial à tringle souple. 2 crevaisons en 5000 km sur l'ensemble des 2 pneus (une fois épines dures, une fois fil de fer d'armature de pneu de camion), alors que j'ai plusieurs fois roulé sur des miettes de verre. J'ai échangé pneu avant et arrière à 4000 km environ, car l'arrière commençait être bien usé, mais à part ça pas de problème.
Le Marathon Supreme est un très bon pneu de route, mais moins résistant aux crevaisons et un peu trop lisse pour rouler sur piste.
Bonjour.
Pour ma part, j'ai fais 1200km à mada dont 1000km de piste, terre glissante, boue et cailloux, avec des Continental travel contact. 0 crevaisons et des cactus partout. http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ch/fr/s?q=travell+contact
Serge
Pour ma part, j'ai fais 1200km à mada dont 1000km de piste, terre glissante, boue et cailloux, avec des Continental travel contact. 0 crevaisons et des cactus partout. http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ch/fr/s?q=travell+contact
Serge
Le Mondial a l'air un chouia plus léger et moins cher que le Marathon Plus Tour et que le Marathon Plus "classique" (sur le catalogue Schwable), reste à voir ce que ça donne côté durabilité.
Perso zéro crevaison avec les Marathon XR sur le vieux VTT voyage, et zéro crevaison avec les Marathon Plus en 20 pouces sur le tricycle qui ont chacun plus de 7.000 km et sont encore en bon état. Meg annonce 4000 km avec les Mondial, c'est moyen comparé aux anciens XR. Faudrait avoir d'autres retours pour se faire une idée de la fiabilité.
Perso zéro crevaison avec les Marathon XR sur le vieux VTT voyage, et zéro crevaison avec les Marathon Plus en 20 pouces sur le tricycle qui ont chacun plus de 7.000 km et sont encore en bon état. Meg annonce 4000 km avec les Mondial, c'est moyen comparé aux anciens XR. Faudrait avoir d'autres retours pour se faire une idée de la fiabilité.
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Meg annonce 4000 km avec les Mondial, c'est moyen comparé aux anciens XR.
oui mais je précise les conditions : quasiment rien en plaine, vélo bien chargé (mais je ne suis pas très lourde), et surtout beaucoup de pistes (ça use plus les pneus et les freins que la route). Et une fois les pneus avant/arrière permutés, je pense qu'ils pourraient rouler sans problème encore 4000 km dans les mêmes conditions, ce qui ferait facilement 8000 au total.
oui mais je précise les conditions : quasiment rien en plaine, vélo bien chargé (mais je ne suis pas très lourde), et surtout beaucoup de pistes (ça use plus les pneus et les freins que la route). Et une fois les pneus avant/arrière permutés, je pense qu'ils pourraient rouler sans problème encore 4000 km dans les mêmes conditions, ce qui ferait facilement 8000 au total.
Même avec de très bons pneus, je commence à penser que le pneu de rechange s'impose... J'ai voulu faire l'impasse cet été et je l'ai regretté. Un Marathon Mondial Evo (donc renforcé sur les côtés, en principe) qui s'est déchiré comme du papier. Et le premier jour de piste il a subi une minuscule crevaison suffisante pour que le pneu se dégonfle en quelques heures. Pourtant c'est vendu comme du pneu miracle... Je n'ai jamais eu ça avec des Dureme en 5 ans.


S'en prendre à l'un des mythe de ce forum (Schwalbe) me semble être une imposture !
Longue route
Désolé d'avoir heurté, je ne m'en prenais pas au mythe mais juste à la réalité de mon expérience (et au marketing :) Si le mythe ne change pas, la recette de la gomme a bien dû évoluer un peu...
J.
J.
Que la honte me m'assaille, mon orthographe me distingue ... j'aurais mieux fait de m'abstenir. Profond mea-culpa.
Long way.
Long way.
Donc en pneus "polyvalents" piste/route, on a les marathon mondial (ex-XR) et plus tour (bien que très lourds) ou les continental travel contact... D'autres modèles ? Ou bien tout le monde part chaussé en Schwalbe 😉 ?
Et sur ce genre de pneus, pour un programme mixte piste/route, vous privilégiez quelle largeur ? Je me pose la question entre du 42 et du 47 (en 622), car le poids rentre aussi en ligne de compte, et plus le pneu est large, plus il est lourd.
Et sur ce genre de pneus, pour un programme mixte piste/route, vous privilégiez quelle largeur ? Je me pose la question entre du 42 et du 47 (en 622), car le poids rentre aussi en ligne de compte, et plus le pneu est large, plus il est lourd.
Pour ma part, j'utilise des 26'' x 1.7
La dernière route que j'ai fais avec les conti: https://youtu.be/...720k3gYotGHGsvqbky6m
Mais dans les parties de terre rouge boueuses, c'était quand même bien glissant.
Dans le sable, il faut aussi éviter les pneus trop fins, mais il n'y en a pas partout.
J'ai aussi un pneus très léger et pliable en réserve, Schwalbe furious fred, que je n'ai jamais eu à utiliser. Il ne supporterait pas d'être à l'arrière, donc en cas de pépin sur le pneu arrière, je devrais le passer à l'avant et passer le pneu avant à l'arrière, le temps de rallier un endroit ou trouver autre chose. Mais je n'ai jamais eu de problème de pneus en voyage.
Aussi, vu le prix, après chaque voyage, je recycle les pneus en local, et part chaque fois avec une paire neuve.
La dernière route que j'ai fais avec les conti: https://youtu.be/...720k3gYotGHGsvqbky6m
Mais dans les parties de terre rouge boueuses, c'était quand même bien glissant.
Dans le sable, il faut aussi éviter les pneus trop fins, mais il n'y en a pas partout.
J'ai aussi un pneus très léger et pliable en réserve, Schwalbe furious fred, que je n'ai jamais eu à utiliser. Il ne supporterait pas d'être à l'arrière, donc en cas de pépin sur le pneu arrière, je devrais le passer à l'avant et passer le pneu avant à l'arrière, le temps de rallier un endroit ou trouver autre chose. Mais je n'ai jamais eu de problème de pneus en voyage.
Aussi, vu le prix, après chaque voyage, je recycle les pneus en local, et part chaque fois avec une paire neuve.
Bonjour,
On trouve encore sur internet des marathon dureme, normalement plus en vente, qui sont un peu plus légers et polyvalents que le mondial, qui leur a succédé: http://www.aupetitvelo.com/pneumatique-schwalbe-marathon-dureme-evolution-28x2-00-29x2-00-tringle-souple-etrto-50-622.html
pour ma part j'ai choisi 28x2.00, (VTT 29 pouces) les marathons plus en 38" de large ayant montré leur limite sur le halage du canal du midi. Et puis les marathon plus sont trop lourds.
Attention avec le suprême : il est super sur route, mais sur terre mouillée ou gravier le vélo chasse dans tous les sens.
On trouve encore sur internet des marathon dureme, normalement plus en vente, qui sont un peu plus légers et polyvalents que le mondial, qui leur a succédé: http://www.aupetitvelo.com/pneumatique-schwalbe-marathon-dureme-evolution-28x2-00-29x2-00-tringle-souple-etrto-50-622.html
pour ma part j'ai choisi 28x2.00, (VTT 29 pouces) les marathons plus en 38" de large ayant montré leur limite sur le halage du canal du midi. Et puis les marathon plus sont trop lourds.
Attention avec le suprême : il est super sur route, mais sur terre mouillée ou gravier le vélo chasse dans tous les sens.
Bonjour,
si tu passes au pneu marathon tu n'auras plus besoin d'avoir un pneu dans la sacoche. ni de changer tous les ans. La durabilité d'un marathon dureme c'est 30 000 km. ça laisse le temps de voir ! Ta vidéo est super et fait bien envie. Vue les pistes je choisirais du 2.0 de large pour les pneus et 3 harmonicas en do, si et la...
si tu passes au pneu marathon tu n'auras plus besoin d'avoir un pneu dans la sacoche. ni de changer tous les ans. La durabilité d'un marathon dureme c'est 30 000 km. ça laisse le temps de voir ! Ta vidéo est super et fait bien envie. Vue les pistes je choisirais du 2.0 de large pour les pneus et 3 harmonicas en do, si et la...
Le pneu dans la saccoche est une sécurité du à l'endroit ou j'ai passé. Il y a des portions ou il n'y a aucun véhicule pendant plusieurs jours. Comme le camion coincé dans la foret depuis 2 jours qui attendait un véhicule pour le sortir de la.
Marathon ou pas, je ne prends pas le risque dans cette région de me retrouver avec un pneu en moins. Shwalbe, j'ai déjà eu des surprises en VTT, certes, ce n'était pas un marathon, mais j'ai constaté que la qualité du caotchouc n'est pas constante, et qu'on peut se retrouver avec un pneu qui ne tient la chaleur, ce que je n'ai jamais eu avec des Conti ou des Maxxis. Avec un freinage sur jante, ça peut amener de mauvaises surprises.
Donc Marathon ou pas, le pneu de réserve et vu le poids ajouté est quand même une bonne option.
Marathon ou pas, je ne prends pas le risque dans cette région de me retrouver avec un pneu en moins. Shwalbe, j'ai déjà eu des surprises en VTT, certes, ce n'était pas un marathon, mais j'ai constaté que la qualité du caotchouc n'est pas constante, et qu'on peut se retrouver avec un pneu qui ne tient la chaleur, ce que je n'ai jamais eu avec des Conti ou des Maxxis. Avec un freinage sur jante, ça peut amener de mauvaises surprises.
Donc Marathon ou pas, le pneu de réserve et vu le poids ajouté est quand même une bonne option.
Je comprends.
En france aussi, il m'arrive de prendre des chemins où je ne croise personne pendant 2 jours.
Je roule donc très prudemment, car mon angoisse c'est de me retrouver avec la clavicule cassée ou le coude fracturé sur un chemin désert...
mais avec la gamme marathon je n'ai jamais eu le moindre problème.
Je te conseille si tu peux d'attendre les soldes sur internet pour changer tes pneus.
J'ai vraiment aimé ta vidéo, de madagascar, je suppose ? Cela m'a donné très très envie, j'ai même jeté un oeil sur le prix du billet d'avion. C'est inédit de ma part qui pensais plutôt partir vers le nord (je supporte mal la chaleur) mais les visages sur ta vidéo sont assez convaincants.
Dis-moi, quelle est la langue chantée dans la bande-son ?
J'ai vraiment aimé ta vidéo, de madagascar, je suppose ? Cela m'a donné très très envie, j'ai même jeté un oeil sur le prix du billet d'avion. C'est inédit de ma part qui pensais plutôt partir vers le nord (je supporte mal la chaleur) mais les visages sur ta vidéo sont assez convaincants.
Dis-moi, quelle est la langue chantée dans la bande-son ?
C'est du Malgache, l'artiste des morceaux 1,3 et 4 est Mikea.
En Europe, j'ai quand même moins peur du fait qu'il y a des secours, pour autant que tu puisses les appeler.
Comme tu dis, se casser quelque chose peux vite devenir très dangereux, et dans la boue, je roulais très très prudemment en essayant de préserver le vélo, mais c'est dur de garder la concentration pendant 10h, et sur la terre rouge dure et humide, quelque crampons ne font pas de mal..
Si tu ne supportes pas la chaleur, la bonne saison à Mada est aux alentours de du mois de juin, plus ou moins 2-3 mois. Evite décembre, c'est l'enfer. C'est un pays très énervant sur certains points, mais tellement attachant sur d'autre. Une fois que tu y es sur ton vélo, le meilleur est à découvrir.
En Europe, j'ai quand même moins peur du fait qu'il y a des secours, pour autant que tu puisses les appeler.
Comme tu dis, se casser quelque chose peux vite devenir très dangereux, et dans la boue, je roulais très très prudemment en essayant de préserver le vélo, mais c'est dur de garder la concentration pendant 10h, et sur la terre rouge dure et humide, quelque crampons ne font pas de mal..
Si tu ne supportes pas la chaleur, la bonne saison à Mada est aux alentours de du mois de juin, plus ou moins 2-3 mois. Evite décembre, c'est l'enfer. C'est un pays très énervant sur certains points, mais tellement attachant sur d'autre. Une fois que tu y es sur ton vélo, le meilleur est à découvrir.
ça c'est bien vrai : la chute survient généralement en fin de journée quand on force un peu trop et qu'on est déconcentré.
Je reviens du tour de france par les halages et certains chemins sont tellement difficiles, nids de poules, racines, gravier, etc, que le plus fatiguant est l'attention qu'il faut constamment porter au chemin. la moindre distraction et hop, tu valdingues.
Merci pour les infos sur le climat !
Merci pour les infos sur le climat !
Je crois que oui :
http://www.aupetitvelo.com/pneumatique-schwalbe-marathon-dureme-evolution-28x2-00-29x2-00-tringle-souple-etrto-50-622.html
Roulant, résistant, polyvalent , increvable, durabilité 30 000 km, chemins ou route, normalement plus vendu sauf sur ce petit site. j'en ai testé beaucoup, des pneus adaptés à mes parcours, avant de trouver celui-là ...
Roulant, résistant, polyvalent , increvable, durabilité 30 000 km, chemins ou route, normalement plus vendu sauf sur ce petit site. j'en ai testé beaucoup, des pneus adaptés à mes parcours, avant de trouver celui-là ...
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We’re also looking for any info on accommodations, wild camping, local interactions, etc.
Thanks,
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Has anyone here had experience using a gas stove in Sardinia and Sicily? I’m wondering if screw-on gas canisters (not the blue Campingaz ones, but brands like Coleman, Primus, etc.) are easy to find.
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I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
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I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires. I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time). I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral. I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
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I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires. I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time). I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral. I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
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Nath
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The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
After testing it for three years across various modes of transport, I’m sharing this video of a bike packing case. It’s made from recycled cardboard and shrink-wrapped, with adjustable thickness and added bubble wrap depending on the level of protection you want.
Installing spacers at the fork and chainstays makes the packaging compact. With the fifteen-odd euros for shrink-wrapping at the airport, this case travels really well.
https://youtu.be/_GDJi-GqmkM
- Low bulk (1.10m x 0.70m x 0.25m for a large frame), it fits vertically in train luggage compartments and the total dimensions (x+y+z) don’t exceed 2.40m.
- Two carrying solutions for public transport and easy handling by airport staff (no more tears in the cardboard from openings).
- Discreet packaging when dealing with bus drivers and train conductors, as it looks like an ordinary parcel.
- No need to return to the starting point to retrieve the case from your outbound trip, which you’d otherwise have to store somewhere, or deal with a bulky cover to pack in your panniers.
- You can still check tire pressure through the plastic film without damaging the packaging too much.
Drawbacks: Around 3 hours for this lengthy and meticulous process—removing the wheels, pedals, handlebars, and derailleur without misaligning them, then securing all components to the frame.
If you get a chance to test it, send me your feedback for future improvements.


Can you take an electric bike on trains in Austria, Germany, and Switzerland?
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
hey everyone,
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection