Lors de notre STOP sur Moab en 2015, ns avons parcouru les parcs en restant sur les points views et quelques randonnées.
Cette année (Septembre 2017) ns voulons descendre dans les canyons, rouler sur les pistes😎
La white rim road par la shafer trail en louant un 4x4, it's easy?
Mon épouse a vu des vidéos et des commentaires 😮 😕
Nous avons eu la même envie après une rapide visite de Canyonland Island in the sky, en 2015 également. Lors de cette visite je me suis dit que la prochaine fois nous ferons la White Rim. Il s'est avéré que la prochaine fois fut l'année suivante (2016 donc).
Quelques infos en vrac:
- un permis est nécessaire pour circuler et un autre pour dormir sur la white rim (https://www.nps.gov/cany/planyourvisit/whiterimroad.htm)
- la descente par la shafer trail peut être impressionnante mais est en réalité facile (en condition sèche). Nous l'avions d'ailleurs emprunté en aller-retour en 2015 avec notre SUV de location (AWD et non 4WD).
- En 2016 nous avons loué une Jeep chez Canyonland Adventure, ça coûte un bras (488 dollars les 2 jours!) : https://canyonlandsjeep.com/
- En raison d'inondation nous n'avons fait que la moitié, cette partie ne présente aucune difficulté technique avec la jeep de loc. Certains partent même avec leur SUV de location mais je ne souhaitais pas tenter le coups!! J'ai lu plusieurs CR où la voiture touchait par endroit.
- C'est la meilleure expérience selon moi de notre 4 voyages aux US.
- Ma femme appréhendait un peu la nuit au milieu de nulle part. Le soir venu il y a eu quelques angoisses, mais celle-ci en garde un souvenir inoubliable.
Voilà mon retour, si tu as des questions n'hésite pas.
Bonjour Eric,
Easy pas vraiment mais en louant un 4X4 adapté comme décrit ci-dessus, tout à fait faisable et vraiment magnifique!
C'est la 2ème partie après White Crack campground qui présente 2 passages délicats.
Récit ici : https://sites.google.com/site/sibellelaterreouestusa2009/white-rim-road
A+
Marie
Une que j'aime beaucoup, "Hurrah Pass" suivi de"Chicken Corners" car de l'autre côté du Colorado, avec vue sur les bassins de potasse..de la "Potash Road"
Merci pour ces renseignements.Pour notre voyage de cette année, ns avons loué un SUV 2WD, mais je vais louer un 4x4 pour une journée et ainsi pouvoir descendre sur la white rim sans risque.
Par contre ns voudrions faire cette piste que partiellement et revenir par la Potash road.
As tu une idée merci.
Eric.
Merci également aux personnes qui m'ont répondu.Il y a tellement de sites magnifiques, il faut bien faire des choix.
Nous avions accédé à la White Rim par la Potash Road (à l'aller donc). Cette piste est plutôt facile et peut se faire sans Jeep spéciale.
Sur une journée je ne sais pas si je prendrais la potash road, j'irais peut-être plus loin sur la white rim en aller-retour pour profiter du 4x4. Tout dépend des conditions de piste le jour où vous irez. Mais c'est vrai que la piste ça prend du temps. Nous avions mis 7h de moab à notre camping Whitecrack.
2 autres pistes qui sont vraiment sympa:
- hurra pass/chicken corner : difficulté moderate, nous l'avions attaquée avec notre suv de location, un grand cherokee. Cette voiture offre de super faculté de franchissement mais avec du recul je ne suis pas sur que je le referais avec les pneus d'origines... en cas de pb le remorquage coûte cher! Comme précisé avant, la vue est vraiment magnifique sur cette piste.
- onion creek: piste facile qui ce fait avec un suv AWD, enfin selon les conditions biensur. Peut être à tester avec votre véhicule éventuellement.
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Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Russia and Mongolia, starting from France.
Crossing the border at Poland/Belarus or Georgia/Russia—other borders seem either closed or complicated.
Tourist visas for 3 months with multiple entries.
Do you have any info on Russian companies that cover a 4x4 vehicle for 3 months, and what prices in rubles or euros you’ve paid?
Which bank did you use for expenses? (EuroMastercard and Visa cards no longer work.)
Regarding Russian SIM cards, a new system called "Gosuslugi" has been introduced. How long did it take you to get one, and what steps did you follow?
Hi,
we’re planning to visit a park again.
Could you point us toward the camps in Gonarezhou Park?
>We’re traveling completely self-sufficiently.
We love wildlife.
Thanks for any tips you can share!
JP
Hi there, we’ll be in Mozambique in early December 2026 and we’d like to travel from Vilanculos to Beira by car or bus to reach Beira airport. After that, we’re planning to visit Gorongosa National Park before flying back to France from Beira. From what we’ve heard, the road to Beira is tricky, especially at this time of year (start of the rainy season). Could anyone share their thoughts or suggest a solution? Thanks so much for your help!
Anne
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I’m heading to Lesotho in a few days and I’m struggling to find info on the best route between Katse Dam and Sehlathebe National Park. There’s a fairly "direct" route from Thaba Tseka, but the roads seem rough, and we’re not exactly 4x4 pros. Anyone have any tips to share? Thanks!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Mozambique in October and are looking for either a 4x4 or 4x2 rental in Maputo, or a driver transfer option to reach:
- Ponta Do Ouro
- Tofo
- Vilankulos
The idea is to be self-sufficient for sightseeing and stops while still being able to access certain lodges or beaches that require a 4x2.
Do you have any contacts, addresses, or ideas to share?
Thanks in advance,
Hello,
We're hitting the road again in 2027 to discover new countries and cultures.
Could anyone give me some tips on driving from Ulaanbaatar to Lake Baikal and the route to take?
Thanks, and safe travels to those who are setting off!
We’re planning a 4x4 trip from Belgium to Central Asia, passing through Georgia, Russia, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, and Kyrgyzstan.
For these countries, our national insurance obviously doesn’t cover the vehicle, so we’ll need to get local insurance.
Will it be a problem if the vehicle is registered under person A and the national insurance is under person B? Both A and B will be in the vehicle, and both will be listed as drivers on the insurance.
When we get the local insurance, if we again list A and B as drivers, does the order matter? Could we get stuck at the border for this reason?
Hi,
For those who’ve driven on Iceland’s gravel roads in their own or a rented Duster, could you tell me what tires were fitted on the vehicle?
Were they All Terrain tires or more "standard" ones like all-season tires, for example?
Follow-up question: if they were "standard" tires, did that cause any issues on the gravel roads and rough terrain?
Thanks so much for any info you can share.
Best,
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Hi there,
I'm planning a 4x4 road trip from Darwin to Broome with a rooftop tent in July 2026.
I'd like to know if I need to book overnight stops in advance or if I can just wing it and stop wherever I feel like it?
Some evenings, we'd like to stop and make use of campsite facilities (restaurant, shop, showers, toilets).
What do you recommend?
Do I need a permit?
My rough itinerary looks like this:
Darwin - Kakadu
Kakadu - Nitmiluk
Nitmiluk - Kununurra
Kununurra - Purnululu
Purnululu - El Questro
El Questro - Mt Elizabeth - Bell Gorge - Broome
I’m planning a trip to Iceland for next July-August, with a car and tent, and I’m wondering about booking campsites.
From your experience, is it necessary or even essential to book campsites in advance, or do you always manage to find a spot to pitch your tent?
We’ll also have the option to sleep in the car without pitching the tent.
Does that give us the flexibility to stay outside a campsite for a night here and there?
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip in the Middle Atlas, starting and ending in Fez and heading down to the south of Midelt, the Assoul Massif.... We’ll be traveling with two small 4x4s.
I’m looking for detailed maps of this region that include small roads and tracks.
Last year, we had a fantastic road trip in the Anti-Atlas and High Atlas using Erfahren maps, but unfortunately, they don’t cover the area we’re interested in this year.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Dominique
We’re planning a 13-day family road trip in Morocco this July, with six people in a Toyota Prado 4x4 (renting in Marrakech).
We’ll alternate between bivouacking and small hotels/riads depending on the stops.
Here’s the planned route (in this order):
Marrakech
→ Ouarzazate
→ Draa Valley
→ Zagora
→ Erg Chegaga
→ Lake Iriki
→ Foum Zguid
→ Tata
→ Tafraoute
→ Aït Mansour
→ Tiznit
→ Mirleft
→ Taroudant
→ Back to Marrakech
Our goal:
Atlas Mountains + desert + dunes + plateaus + valleys + a bit of coastline.
We’ll cover about 1,700 km in total.
We’re planning:
Bivouacking in the Chegaga/Iriki area
Flexible for the rest (booking the day before or same day)
Sand gear: traction plates, compressor, tow strap, roof rack
Questions:
Is the Zagora → Chegaga → Iriki → Foum Zguid crossing in July doable on our own (single vehicle, no guide)?
Are there any truly technical or risky sections between Chegaga and Iriki?
Does the overall itinerary seem manageable in 13 days without rushing?
Any suggestions for great bivouac spots or particularly interesting stops along this route?
The points on the route are provisional overnight stops. Some spots will include two nights in the same area.
We’re used to off-road driving, but not yet in the Moroccan desert.
Thanks in advance for your feedback and tips! 😊
Good evening
I could use some advice 🙂
Our trip to Namibia is planned for June/July 2026.
We’re struggling a bit with timing and choosing activities for the part of the trip between Sesriem and Brandberg.
Day 1: Sesriem to Mirabib
Day 2: Mirabib to Swakopmund – visit Swakopmund, overnight in Swakopmund
Day 3: Sandwich Harbour – overnight in Swakopmund
Day 4: Kayaking with the seals + the living dunes – overnight in Swakopmund
Day 5: Moon Landscape, Henties Bay + Cape Cross – overnight at White Lady Lodge in Brandberg
Does this itinerary seem realistic to you? Is Cape Cross really worth the trip? If I had to choose between Cape Cross and kayaking with the seals, which would you recommend?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Hélix
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However, the rental agencies we’ve found prohibit driving on the tracks to Omalo (Tusheti) and/or Ushguli (Svaneti).
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Hi everyone,
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Avez vous des loueurs à me recommander?
Les loueurs traditionnels type Hertz, Avis, etc .... paraissent hors de prix par rapport aux loueurs locaux?
que faut-il en penser ? sont-ils bien assurés?
L'un de vous a-t-il expérimenté Geo Rent Car ? Auto 4 rental? ou encore Sur Price?
D'autre part, je cherche des infos sur l'état de la piste Ushguli - Lentekhi, est-elle praticable?
Hi everyone,
A well-prepped 4x4, a travel plan across Africa in stages since I’ve got kids to see regularly and work to earn a living.
I’m leaving in November for about a month with the goal of reaching Senegal via Mauritania. I’d love to share this trip with someone who wants to discover Mauritania and a bit of Senegal... and also experience life on board a 4x4 in the desert or bush, sometimes sleeping in the vehicle or in hostels/small hotels for comfort. I want to share this rediscovery because two’s better than one!
Just traveling, exploring, and living! !
Je souhaite parcourir la Patagonie argentine et chilienne pendant 1 mois en décembre 2019.
Je suis donc à la recherche d'un (ou plusieurs) loueur(s) qui propose(nt) en location des pick-up 4x4 (mono-cabine car nous seront 2) avec une cellule aménagée.
Je parle bien d'un véhicule aménagé avec une douche à l'intérieur pour plus de confort ;)
Donc exit le van ! (du moins dans les loueurs que j'ai vu).
En parcourant le forum, j'ai vu le loueur Holiday Rent coté chilien. Mais avez-vous des adresses coté argentin ?
Car, à défaut de rendre le véhicule dans la même ville qu'au départ, je pense qu'il est préférable et moins cher de le rendre au moins dans le même pays.
I’m traveling through Argentina and Chile (as well as Paraguay and Uruguay) with a 2019 Toyota Hilux Euro 6. Could anyone tell me if the local diesel is suitable for its engine, or if I need to take any special precautions (like adding an additive, for example) for these countries?
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If that happens, what should I do?
Hi there,
Can you tell me if the road between Zagora and M'Gouna is easy or difficult for a 4x4? How much time and how many kilometers should I plan for? I’m traveling in May.
Thanks!
Hi there,
My trip to South Africa is starting to take shape.
However, I'm struggling to figure out the route through Kruger Park. I can't seem to find the information I need about getting around.
Coming from the south, I plan to arrive on Day 1 in the early afternoon at Malelane or Crocodile Bridge.
Do some shopping in Malelane (or Crocodile Bridge main area) and stay overnight outside the park.
Leave on Day 2 at 5 AM for the park. Explore the southern part of the park.
Stay overnight around Skukuza or Lower Sabie. (We don’t want to stay in one of the park’s big camps. We’re looking for a lodge around 200 €.
Head out on Day 3 for a self-drive safari, maybe as far as Orpen.
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Souhaitant quitter le Maroc durant l'été mais y laisser mon 4*4, afin de ne pas être pénaliser sur le fameux délai de 6 mois, je voudrais le parquer dans l'une des deux enclaves espagnoles (Cueta ou mellila)
Connaissez vous des gens ou des sociétés qui s'occupent sur place des parkings longue durée (sécurisés de préférence)
une fois la voiture déposée, quelle solution de transports publics pour rejoindre la France
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Comment rejoindre facilement cet aéroport etc etc
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When I arrive in Divundu, I’d like to head straight to the Khwai area early in the morning to one of the campsites in the Khwai Development Trust. Is the drive doable with a good 4x4 in a day?
We’ll spend 2 nights in Khwai, then 2 or maybe 3 nights in the Moremi area (Third Bridge/Xakanaxa/Mboma) before heading back to Maun to wrap up our journey.
Is that too much time to spend in each place?
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Thanks in advance for your tips and advice!
Best,
Patrick
