Autre question: de Marpha, a quelle heure peut-on monter dans un bus (venant du sud je présume) pour se rendre à Jomsom (période: fin janvier) (ou bien le faire à pied avant 10h30, heure du début des grands vents - frais à cette période -). Thanks.
Randonnées sur Marpha et environs (Népal)
by Luke88
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Marpha avant le "bas-Mustang".En arrivant en avion à Jomsom et en enchaînant, à pied, vers Marpha, passer l'après-midi dans ce même village est-il suffisant ou la journée du lendemain est-elle conseillée? (avant de repartir vers Jomsom et Muktinah). Y a-t-il des randos dans le coin de Marpha dans un court rayon (A/R 3 à 4 heures).
Merci à vous.
Autre question: de Marpha, a quelle heure peut-on monter dans un bus (venant du sud je présume) pour se rendre à Jomsom (période: fin janvier) (ou bien le faire à pied avant 10h30, heure du début des grands vents - frais à cette période -). Thanks.
Autre question: de Marpha, a quelle heure peut-on monter dans un bus (venant du sud je présume) pour se rendre à Jomsom (période: fin janvier) (ou bien le faire à pied avant 10h30, heure du début des grands vents - frais à cette période -). Thanks.
inwa21
Tu peux marcher de Marpha a Jomosom par la rive gauche, sentier NATT, , nettement plus long que la route. Decharge le guide NATT 2011 du web
Merci Willempspie. Réponse courte et efficace!
Me conseilles-tu d'acheter une carte recouvrant la région? (Marpha - Kagbeni - Muktinah, Jhong, Chongur, Putak? Jarkot) ou les croquis dans différents sites suffisent-ils?
inwa21
Oui achete une carte au Nepal, pas chere de toutes facons.
Me conseilles-tu d'acheter une carte recouvrant la région?
Pour la seule préparation, les cartes en ligne de OpenCycleMap ou OpenTopoMap (je préfère son rendu du relief) peuvent suffire. Y figurent la plupart des itinéraires, de source OpenStreetMap (OSM).
Je n'arrête pas d'être bluffé par la couverture des itinéraires. Dernier en date, l'accès au Sarang Gompa dans la Vallée de la Shringi Khola, une escapade rare au sein du Tour du Manaslu.
Pour ce que j'ai pu confronter avec les réalités que je connais (trek du Choquequirao au Pérou, Val d'Anniviers en Valais Suisse), les tracés des itinéraires sont parfaitement exacts. Avec parfois des détails confondants, par ex. un pont de rondins sur un rivière. Aucunement renseigné sur Google Maps.
A signaler aussi les traces GPS exportées par des trekkeurs, par ex. sur le site wikiloc (possible de les visualiser sur un fond OpenCycleMap). Parfois (trop rarement) enrichies de carnet de marche. Mais sans l'expérience et l'expertise d'un Willemspie 😉.
Fabrice
P.S. : les itinéraires affichés dans OpenStreetMap sont repris dans l'application mobile Maps.me (cartes disponibles hors ligne). Laquelle n'offre malheureusement pas encore de vue relief.
Pour la seule préparation, les cartes en ligne de OpenCycleMap ou OpenTopoMap (je préfère son rendu du relief) peuvent suffire. Y figurent la plupart des itinéraires, de source OpenStreetMap (OSM).
Je n'arrête pas d'être bluffé par la couverture des itinéraires. Dernier en date, l'accès au Sarang Gompa dans la Vallée de la Shringi Khola, une escapade rare au sein du Tour du Manaslu.
Pour ce que j'ai pu confronter avec les réalités que je connais (trek du Choquequirao au Pérou, Val d'Anniviers en Valais Suisse), les tracés des itinéraires sont parfaitement exacts. Avec parfois des détails confondants, par ex. un pont de rondins sur un rivière. Aucunement renseigné sur Google Maps.
A signaler aussi les traces GPS exportées par des trekkeurs, par ex. sur le site wikiloc (possible de les visualiser sur un fond OpenCycleMap). Parfois (trop rarement) enrichies de carnet de marche. Mais sans l'expérience et l'expertise d'un Willemspie 😉.
Fabrice
P.S. : les itinéraires affichés dans OpenStreetMap sont repris dans l'application mobile Maps.me (cartes disponibles hors ligne). Laquelle n'offre malheureusement pas encore de vue relief.
S'exposer à l'Etranger lointain amène à mieux connaître et comprendre sa propre Culture.
Merci Fabrice! Cela sent le fouineur avisé!
J'espère que tu as des échos concrets appréciables de la "soirée Manaslu" à Paris du mois de juin dernier!
A+
inwa21
J'espère que tu as des échos concrets appréciables de la "soirée Manaslu" à Paris du mois de juin dernier
Non, aucun, mais Samuel Becker a apporté sa contribution à la discussion ouverte sur mon plan de marche in https://voyageforum.com/discussion/tour-personnalise-manaslu-d8213193/.
Si tu as toi même l'expérience du Tour du Manaslu, n'hésites pas à témoigner.
Fabrice
Non, aucun, mais Samuel Becker a apporté sa contribution à la discussion ouverte sur mon plan de marche in https://voyageforum.com/discussion/tour-personnalise-manaslu-d8213193/.
Si tu as toi même l'expérience du Tour du Manaslu, n'hésites pas à témoigner.
Fabrice
S'exposer à l'Etranger lointain amène à mieux connaître et comprendre sa propre Culture.
Hélas non: un humble petit trek du côté de Nagarkot (1976) seulement!
Mais si j'entends quelque chose...
L.
inwa21
L'avalanche d'il y a quelques années sur le Manaslu (11 victimes):
I guarantee every inch of the mountain will demand total respect, with virtually no place to let your guard down.
C'était un mois de septembre...
I guarantee every inch of the mountain will demand total respect, with virtually no place to let your guard down.
C'était un mois de septembre...
inwa21
Pour t' acclimater un peu, en plein centre de Marpha, tu as le départ du tour du Dhaulagiri.
Tu montes 3 heures jusqu' à un plateau facile et tu balades, sans oublier l' appareil photo.
Merci Armandveron.
Oui, vers "Alu Bari" donc depuis le centre du village.
Tu ne peux pas louper le carrefour àcôté de la librairie.

Tu ne peux pas louper le carrefour àcôté de la librairie.

Effectivement, signalétique marquante.
Puisque nous côtoyons le Dhaulagiri, est-il simple de se diriger vers la Cascade de Glace depuis Naurikot ou le lac Sekung ?
Fabrice
Puisque nous côtoyons le Dhaulagiri, est-il simple de se diriger vers la Cascade de Glace depuis Naurikot ou le lac Sekung ?
Fabrice
S'exposer à l'Etranger lointain amène à mieux connaître et comprendre sa propre Culture.
Effectivement, signalétique marquante.
Puisque nous côtoyons le Dhaulagiri, est-il simple de se diriger vers la Cascade de Glace depuis Naurikot ou le lac Sekung ?
Fabrice
La route du col est du Dhaula ? Vaste question, mais vu des hauteurs de la rive gauche de la Khali Gandaki ça n'a pas l' air si simple que ça : sur la photo on voit un point bleu, certainement une bâche pour un abri, donc il y a des bergers, c' est vers 4000/4500, jusque là ça doit aller, mais après ça se gâte. Mieux vaudrait prendre un guide à Shokung car 2000 m de dénivelé ça oblige très certainement à bivouaquer. Il y a dans ce coin de la forêt et de l' humidité, on ne va pas très vite.

Puisque nous côtoyons le Dhaulagiri, est-il simple de se diriger vers la Cascade de Glace depuis Naurikot ou le lac Sekung ?
Fabrice
La route du col est du Dhaula ? Vaste question, mais vu des hauteurs de la rive gauche de la Khali Gandaki ça n'a pas l' air si simple que ça : sur la photo on voit un point bleu, certainement une bâche pour un abri, donc il y a des bergers, c' est vers 4000/4500, jusque là ça doit aller, mais après ça se gâte. Mieux vaudrait prendre un guide à Shokung car 2000 m de dénivelé ça oblige très certainement à bivouaquer. Il y a dans ce coin de la forêt et de l' humidité, on ne va pas très vite.

Un crop de la photo du Dhaula, ça te donne une meilleure idée de la pente :


Tu imagines une ambition que je n'ai pas.
L'idée est seulement d'approcher la Cascade de Glace du Dhaulagiri, pas plus. Je serais amplement satisfait de pouvoir l'admirer de loin.
D'après ce que je comprends, il faut marcher jusqu'à une crête qui la dissimule au regard depuis Naurikot ou le lac Sekung. Mais j'ai du mal à évaluer le temps requis pour parvenir à cette crête. Ou le dénivelé en ascension.
Fabrice
L'idée est seulement d'approcher la Cascade de Glace du Dhaulagiri, pas plus. Je serais amplement satisfait de pouvoir l'admirer de loin.
D'après ce que je comprends, il faut marcher jusqu'à une crête qui la dissimule au regard depuis Naurikot ou le lac Sekung. Mais j'ai du mal à évaluer le temps requis pour parvenir à cette crête. Ou le dénivelé en ascension.
Fabrice
S'exposer à l'Etranger lointain amène à mieux connaître et comprendre sa propre Culture.
Tu imagines une ambition que je n'ai pas.
L'idée est seulement d'approcher la Cascade de Glace du Dhaulagiri, pas plus. Je serais amplement satisfait de pouvoir l'admirer de loin.
D'après ce que je comprends, il faut marcher jusqu'à une crête qui la dissimule au regard depuis Naurikot ou le lac Sekung. Mais j'ai du mal à évaluer le temps requis pour parvenir à cette crête. Ou le dénivelé en ascension.
Fabrice
Et si tu descendais la Kali Ghandaki rive gauche en faisant un crochet par Titigaon et la bosse à 2900, ne penses-tu pas que tu aurais plus de recul et un panorama plus complet sur le Dhaula que depuis son pied ?
L'idée est seulement d'approcher la Cascade de Glace du Dhaulagiri, pas plus. Je serais amplement satisfait de pouvoir l'admirer de loin.
D'après ce que je comprends, il faut marcher jusqu'à une crête qui la dissimule au regard depuis Naurikot ou le lac Sekung. Mais j'ai du mal à évaluer le temps requis pour parvenir à cette crête. Ou le dénivelé en ascension.
Fabrice
Et si tu descendais la Kali Ghandaki rive gauche en faisant un crochet par Titigaon et la bosse à 2900, ne penses-tu pas que tu aurais plus de recul et un panorama plus complet sur le Dhaula que depuis son pied ?
Merci pour la suggestion.
C'est effectivement ce que j'ai prévu après le lac Sekung.
Mon idée est d'assister au début du coucher de soleil depuis le lac Sekung, avec vue sur les Nilgiri, puis d'aller coucher à Kokhethanti, arrivée à la frontale.
Le lendemain matin, je devrais avoir un beau lever de soleil sur les Dhaulagiri.
Mais je ne serais pas contre une approche de la Cascade de Glace si le temps me le permet. Oui, je sais, le beurre, l'argent du beurre, et le sourire de la crémière...
Fabrice
C'est effectivement ce que j'ai prévu après le lac Sekung.
Mon idée est d'assister au début du coucher de soleil depuis le lac Sekung, avec vue sur les Nilgiri, puis d'aller coucher à Kokhethanti, arrivée à la frontale.
Le lendemain matin, je devrais avoir un beau lever de soleil sur les Dhaulagiri.
Mais je ne serais pas contre une approche de la Cascade de Glace si le temps me le permet. Oui, je sais, le beurre, l'argent du beurre, et le sourire de la crémière...
Fabrice
S'exposer à l'Etranger lointain amène à mieux connaître et comprendre sa propre Culture.
Le Lonely Planet en ligne est par ailleurs un excellent outil :
https://books.google.fr/books?id=thAvCwAAQBAJ&pg=PT352&lpg=PT352&dq=titigaon+dhaulagiri&source=bl&ots=W8WLTYMeo7&sig=t5VyIi3xJQqjhg2mmGS1rDzSVW0&hl=fr&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjwieTJyPLVAhXjKcAKHYqCCKQQ6AEINjAB#v=onepage&q=titigaon%20dhaulagiri&f=false
En général, j'apprécie les informations du Lonely Planet. Surtout les plans et les informations logistiques (transports, horaires...).
Pour les LP consacrés au Népal, je me méfie car son auteur principal, Bradley Mayhew, n'hésite pas à être parfois très inventif et peu rigoureux.
Constaté sur sa contribution au LP Iran Edition 2006 (le reste était de très bonne qualité), où il invente un dispositif de protection de ponts sassanides. Alors qu'il s'agissait d'un immense barrage hydraulique en cours de construction quand il est passé. De plus, s'y contentait de préconiser d'affréter un taxi pour atteindre tout site en-dehors d'une grande ville. Alors qu'il y a quasiment toujours un transport public disponible, et simple d'utilisation.
Une paresse qu'il pratique pour ses propres voyages comme en témoigne sa série documentaire "Sur les traces de Marco Polo" produite pour Arte en 2011. On y voit sa méthode : solliciter un guide local et affréter un transport privé. La qualité de ses guides papier dépend de ses interlocuteurs, pas de sa culture ou de son expérience.
Alors pour une randonnée en dehors des sentiers battus, je préfère faire confiance au guide NATT (Natural Annapurna Trekking Trail). Dont l'édition 2013 décrit bien la balade jusqu'au lac Sekung, mais malheureusement pas vraiment l'extension jusqu'à la Cascade de Glace du Dhaulagiri. D'où ma question, car l'expérience népalaise de certains forumistes semblent inépuisable. 😇
Fabrice
Pour les LP consacrés au Népal, je me méfie car son auteur principal, Bradley Mayhew, n'hésite pas à être parfois très inventif et peu rigoureux.
Constaté sur sa contribution au LP Iran Edition 2006 (le reste était de très bonne qualité), où il invente un dispositif de protection de ponts sassanides. Alors qu'il s'agissait d'un immense barrage hydraulique en cours de construction quand il est passé. De plus, s'y contentait de préconiser d'affréter un taxi pour atteindre tout site en-dehors d'une grande ville. Alors qu'il y a quasiment toujours un transport public disponible, et simple d'utilisation.
Une paresse qu'il pratique pour ses propres voyages comme en témoigne sa série documentaire "Sur les traces de Marco Polo" produite pour Arte en 2011. On y voit sa méthode : solliciter un guide local et affréter un transport privé. La qualité de ses guides papier dépend de ses interlocuteurs, pas de sa culture ou de son expérience.
Alors pour une randonnée en dehors des sentiers battus, je préfère faire confiance au guide NATT (Natural Annapurna Trekking Trail). Dont l'édition 2013 décrit bien la balade jusqu'au lac Sekung, mais malheureusement pas vraiment l'extension jusqu'à la Cascade de Glace du Dhaulagiri. D'où ma question, car l'expérience népalaise de certains forumistes semblent inépuisable. 😇
Fabrice
S'exposer à l'Etranger lointain amène à mieux connaître et comprendre sa propre Culture.
Pour ce que j'ai pu confronter avec les réalités que je connais (trek du Choquequirao au Pérou, Val d'Anniviers en Valais Suisse), les tracés des itinéraires sont parfaitement exacts.
Si tu as pu vérifier dans le val d'Anniviers n'est rien en comparaison des itinéraires de trek au Népal!😏
Si tu as pu vérifier dans le val d'Anniviers n'est rien en comparaison des itinéraires de trek au Népal!😏
A mon avis, l'important est d'évaluer la fiabilité de la source des informations.
Dans le cas d'OpenStreetMap (d'où proviennent les itinéraires affichés par OpenCycleMap et OpenTopoMap), les informations sont renseignées par la communauté des utilisateurs, voire quelques offices de tourisme. Comme dans toute communauté, les contributeurs sont plus ou moins rigoureux.
Je n'imagine pas que les contributeurs entrent point par point leurs relevés. Ils exportent sur OpenStreetMap les traces relevées par leur outil GPS. Donc aussi fiable que chaque outil GPS utilisé.
Comparé aux différentes cartes népalaises que j'ai pu consulter (Manaslu, zone des Annapurnas, Khopra Danda), les cartes open source me semblent plus fiables.
Il serait intéressant que quelques forumistes experts mettent à l'épreuve certains de ces itinéraires. Sans être expert, il faudrait que je poursuive cet exercice pour ce que je connais au Ladakh, en Equateur, et au Nord-Pérou.
Cela mériterait peut-être l'ouverture d'une discussion générale sur les cartes en ligne.
Fabrice
Dans le cas d'OpenStreetMap (d'où proviennent les itinéraires affichés par OpenCycleMap et OpenTopoMap), les informations sont renseignées par la communauté des utilisateurs, voire quelques offices de tourisme. Comme dans toute communauté, les contributeurs sont plus ou moins rigoureux.
Je n'imagine pas que les contributeurs entrent point par point leurs relevés. Ils exportent sur OpenStreetMap les traces relevées par leur outil GPS. Donc aussi fiable que chaque outil GPS utilisé.
Comparé aux différentes cartes népalaises que j'ai pu consulter (Manaslu, zone des Annapurnas, Khopra Danda), les cartes open source me semblent plus fiables.
Il serait intéressant que quelques forumistes experts mettent à l'épreuve certains de ces itinéraires. Sans être expert, il faudrait que je poursuive cet exercice pour ce que je connais au Ladakh, en Equateur, et au Nord-Pérou.
Cela mériterait peut-être l'ouverture d'une discussion générale sur les cartes en ligne.
Fabrice
S'exposer à l'Etranger lointain amène à mieux connaître et comprendre sa propre Culture.
Le Lonely Planet en ligne est par ailleurs un excellent outil :
books.google.fr/...aulagiri&f=false
.. par contre, pour mon trek de débutant, j'y trouverai mon petit bonheur. Merci Armandveron.
inwa21
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So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
Thanks in advance for your advice! 🙂
New to this forum, I’m planning a pretty big project for 2028. I’m heading to Nepal to do a trek from Kathmandu all the way to Everest Base Camp (a cool 5,300 m 😄). This trek is a bit special because even though I’ll be part of a group, I’m going solo (so far, no problem—I’m used to it). But it’s my first real trek, and it’s also a humanitarian one: once I reach base camp, I’ll stay an extra week to help clean up the waste left by tens of thousands of climbers! Since I’m originally from South America, from two countries that share the Andes, I have a deep respect for mountains—they fascinate me. So Everest… it’s kind of the trip of a lifetime!
So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
Thanks in advance for your advice! 🙂
We're planning to trek in Peru and Bolivia and would love to find some local agencies.
If you know any, could you share details on prices and, of course, the names of the agencies?
Which trek would you recommend?
Elocine
I'm heading out on a fully self-sufficient trek in Morocco (10 days) from Imilchil to Aghbalou.
Can I find screw-on gas canisters (Coleman, Primus) in Marrakech (any addresses?) or in villages between Imilchil and Aghbalou?
If not, are Butagaz canisters for camping gas (small 230g size) available?
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello, I’d like to embark on a little trip in my home country, Switzerland. I’ll start walking from La Cure, heading toward Le Noirmont first, then I’ll improvise my route—but it’ll probably follow the French border... at least as far as Lac de Joux.
I’ll decide day by day how much farther to go after that. My goal is to stay in nature as much as possible, wander around for as long as I can, and restock food in villages or towns along the way.
I’m thinking of mostly camping, but we’ll see if I end up in a hotel or another campsite depending on my route.
I’d love to reach La Chaux-de-Fonds on foot... maybe even Delémont. The whole thing should take about a week, give or take.
I’ll be bringing my dog, and I’m preparing for this as soon as I’m ready.
Any tips to make sure everything goes smoothly for us? Things I should know—or avoid? What about shepherds with their flocks of sheep? And isn’t hunting season open right now?
I’m not sure if what I’m planning is even doable, which is why I’m asking around.
This’ll be my first time doing something like this—wandering in nature *and* with a dog. I’m really excited for this adventure... and I need it. Thanks!
I’ll decide day by day how much farther to go after that. My goal is to stay in nature as much as possible, wander around for as long as I can, and restock food in villages or towns along the way.
I’m thinking of mostly camping, but we’ll see if I end up in a hotel or another campsite depending on my route.
I’d love to reach La Chaux-de-Fonds on foot... maybe even Delémont. The whole thing should take about a week, give or take.
I’ll be bringing my dog, and I’m preparing for this as soon as I’m ready.
Any tips to make sure everything goes smoothly for us? Things I should know—or avoid? What about shepherds with their flocks of sheep? And isn’t hunting season open right now?
I’m not sure if what I’m planning is even doable, which is why I’m asking around.
This’ll be my first time doing something like this—wandering in nature *and* with a dog. I’m really excited for this adventure... and I need it. Thanks!
Hello,
We’re really keen on ecosystems and want to hike in "natural" ancient forests—not planted woods or areas heavily degraded by human activity. Travel guides (like Lonely Planet) don’t provide much info on this. Could you point us to the most interesting spots? Thanks in advance for your tips. We wish you happy holidays and a fantastic 2026, full of discoveries! Claire and Albert
We’re really keen on ecosystems and want to hike in "natural" ancient forests—not planted woods or areas heavily degraded by human activity. Travel guides (like Lonely Planet) don’t provide much info on this. Could you point us to the most interesting spots? Thanks in advance for your tips. We wish you happy holidays and a fantastic 2026, full of discoveries! Claire and Albert
Hi, this might not be the right section, but I’d like to know if it’s possible to start mountaineering with another person without necessarily hiring a guide. We’ve done quite a bit of hiking but not mountaineering—we’ll just do a half-day glacier course. After that, we were thinking of starting with La Grande Motte and the Pointe de la Traversière, which were recommended to us. Honestly, for things like roping up and knots, I’ll learn at home with lots of videos and a book.
Spots where we could pitch the tent near a stream
I’d love to know if anyone has done treks in the Rwenzori Mountains and how much it costs on average, what the infrastructure is like, the landscapes, and safety in the area. Thanks so much! I’m really looking forward to your replies.
Hi there,
I’m looking for half-day hikes near Karakol (not Jety-Oguz, since I’ll be heading there separately—max 30 minutes’ drive to the trailhead).
I can find longer treks, but nothing for a short outing!
So, if you’ve got any ideas...
Thanks! :)
I’m looking for half-day hikes near Karakol (not Jety-Oguz, since I’ll be heading there separately—max 30 minutes’ drive to the trailhead).
I can find longer treks, but nothing for a short outing!
So, if you’ve got any ideas...
Thanks! :)
Hi everyone,
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
Hi there,
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
hi there,
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
Hi,
I’d like some advice on doing the Camino de Santiago—or part of it—from the Basque Country.
Best,
Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.



