Circuit "Harmonie du levant" au Japon
by Goupillon66
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Qui a déjà fait le circuit harmonie du levant avec jet tours.
Merci pour vos réponses
Qui a déjà fait le circuit harmonie du levant avec jet tours.
Merci pour vos réponses
Bonjour,
Non, je ne l'ai pas fait, mais j'ai cherché à savoir ce que c'est :
Tokyo, Kamakura, Hakone ("dans la région du Fuji-Yama"), Hiroshima, Miyajima, Kurashiki, Okayama, Kyoto, Nara en 9 jours sur place.
"Certains guides ne possèdent pas une maîtrise parfaite de la langue française et peuvent être parfois difficiles à comprendre."
Je n'ai pas trouvé le tarif sur le site de Jet tours, mais de 3500 à 4000€ par personne chez deux revendeurs.
A vous les experts ! (La cage aux fauves est ouverte 😏)
Bonjour,
Non, je ne l'ai pas fait, mais j'ai cherché à savoir ce que c'est :
Tokyo, Kamakura, Hakone ("dans la région du Fuji-Yama"), Hiroshima, Miyajima, Kurashiki, Okayama, Kyoto, Nara en 9 jours sur place.
"Certains guides ne possèdent pas une maîtrise parfaite de la langue française et peuvent être parfois difficiles à comprendre."
Je n'ai pas trouvé le tarif sur le site de Jet tours, mais de 3500 à 4000€ par personne chez deux revendeurs.
A vous les experts ! (La cage aux fauves est ouverte 😏)
Je me demande toujours, entre autres réflexions peu flatteuses, si les voyagistes qui proposent ce genre de circuits ont la moindre idée du pays qu'ils entendent faire visiter à leur clientèle, ou s'ils espèrent que leur clientèle soit si ignorante qu'on peut si aisément lui jeter de la poudre aux yeux.
On se moque depuis des décennies des tours organisés par et pour les touristes japonais et américains en Europe ("c'est mardi, nous sommes donc à Frankfort"), mais on en est à strictement la même chose dès qu'il s'agit des "mystères de l'orient".
Comment peut-on prétendre faire connaître "l'harmonie" d'un pays en papillonnant sur 9 jours entre 8 villes, dont une mégapole pleine de choses à voir, deux capitales culturelles et historiques millénaires et pleines de trésors, etc., sans compter les temps de transport, les check-in-out d'hôtel, etc. ???
On se moque depuis des décennies des tours organisés par et pour les touristes japonais et américains en Europe ("c'est mardi, nous sommes donc à Frankfort"), mais on en est à strictement la même chose dès qu'il s'agit des "mystères de l'orient".
Comment peut-on prétendre faire connaître "l'harmonie" d'un pays en papillonnant sur 9 jours entre 8 villes, dont une mégapole pleine de choses à voir, deux capitales culturelles et historiques millénaires et pleines de trésors, etc., sans compter les temps de transport, les check-in-out d'hôtel, etc. ???
Tokyo, Kamakura, Hakone ("dans la région du Fuji-Yama"), Hiroshima, Miyajima, Kurashiki, Okayama, Kyoto, Nara en 9 jours sur place.
Total délire...
Pour ceux qui font un reportage sur les trains éventuellement...
Si cette agence écrit elle-même "Fuji-Yama", ça en dit long sur sa connaissance du Japon puisqu'on dit Fuji-san...
Total délire...
Pour ceux qui font un reportage sur les trains éventuellement...
Si cette agence écrit elle-même "Fuji-Yama", ça en dit long sur sa connaissance du Japon puisqu'on dit Fuji-san...
Bonjour
"c'est mardi, nous sommes donc à Frankfort"
Rendons à la Belgique ce qui est à la Belgique 😮
If It's Tuesday, This Must Be Belgium - Wikipedia
"c'est mardi, nous sommes donc à Frankfort"
Rendons à la Belgique ce qui est à la Belgique 😮
If It's Tuesday, This Must Be Belgium - Wikipedia
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
Bonjour
"c'est mardi, nous sommes donc à Frankfort"
Rendons à la Belgique ce qui est à la Belgique 😮
If It's Tuesday, This Must Be Belgium - Wikipedia
Je savais bien qu'un érudit viendrait au secours de ma mémoire défaillante ! 😉
"c'est mardi, nous sommes donc à Frankfort"
Rendons à la Belgique ce qui est à la Belgique 😮
If It's Tuesday, This Must Be Belgium - Wikipedia
Je savais bien qu'un érudit viendrait au secours de ma mémoire défaillante ! 😉
Je n'ai pas trouvé le tarif sur le site de Jet tours, mais de 3500 à 4000€ par personne chez deux revendeurs.
Effectivement, y a même pas le prix ^^ www.jettours.com/...onie-du-levant_22146
Voyons voir. En comptant large : Vol : aller vers NRT, retour depuis KIX, avec escale, on va dire 600 € par personne -> 1200 € Transport sur place : 1 JR Pass 7 jours + quelques tickets de métro + 2 transferts aéroport, 270 € -> 540 € Hébergement : 9 nuits, les hôtels sont pas mal, disons 200 € la chambre en moyenne -> 1800 € Repas/entrées/dépenses : 75 € pour 2 par jour (mes stats sur plusieurs années) -> 675 €
Soit, environ 4200 €, ou 2100 € par personne. On a le droit de porter plainte pour abus de confiance ? 😛
Effectivement, y a même pas le prix ^^ www.jettours.com/...onie-du-levant_22146
Voyons voir. En comptant large : Vol : aller vers NRT, retour depuis KIX, avec escale, on va dire 600 € par personne -> 1200 € Transport sur place : 1 JR Pass 7 jours + quelques tickets de métro + 2 transferts aéroport, 270 € -> 540 € Hébergement : 9 nuits, les hôtels sont pas mal, disons 200 € la chambre en moyenne -> 1800 € Repas/entrées/dépenses : 75 € pour 2 par jour (mes stats sur plusieurs années) -> 675 €
Soit, environ 4200 €, ou 2100 € par personne. On a le droit de porter plainte pour abus de confiance ? 😛
Tant qu'il y aura des couillons pour payer ce prix-là...
Mon blog de voyage : http://xn--duncontinentlautre-qrb.com
Tant qu'il y aura des couillons pour payer ce prix-là...
La question n'est pas tant l'intelligence des gens qui se font (éventuellement *) pigeonner que leur manque d'information, sur le réel prix des choses comme sur la prétendue difficulté de se dépatouiller tout seul dans certains pays.
* il y a des gens pour qui de telles sommes ne représentent pas un problème et d'autres qui préfèrent voyager bien encadrés plutôt que seuls, en toute connaissance de cause.
La question n'est pas tant l'intelligence des gens qui se font (éventuellement *) pigeonner que leur manque d'information, sur le réel prix des choses comme sur la prétendue difficulté de se dépatouiller tout seul dans certains pays.
* il y a des gens pour qui de telles sommes ne représentent pas un problème et d'autres qui préfèrent voyager bien encadrés plutôt que seuls, en toute connaissance de cause.
C'est vrai. Et là, on touche aux différences fondamentales sur la manière de voyager.
Tout le monde ne souhaite pas organiser son propre voyage, tout le monde ne veut pas voyager en solo, et certains n'ont pas envie de se faire ch... pour ça. Donc, en effet, certains en profitent pour plumer ces gens-là.
Tout le monde ne souhaite pas organiser son propre voyage, tout le monde ne veut pas voyager en solo, et certains n'ont pas envie de se faire ch... pour ça. Donc, en effet, certains en profitent pour plumer ces gens-là.
Mon blog de voyage : http://xn--duncontinentlautre-qrb.com
C'est vrai. Et là, on touche aux différences fondamentales sur la manière de voyager.
Tout le monde ne souhaite pas organiser son propre voyage, tout le monde ne veut pas voyager en solo, et certains n'ont pas envie de se faire ch... pour ça. Donc, en effet, certains en profitent pour plumer ces gens-là.
Bonjour,
Cela n'a rien à voir. Des voyagistes peu scrupuleux qui abusent de clients mal informés, il y en a dans toutes les gammes de prix. Voyez par exemple sur ce site le nombre de plaintes de voyageurs au sujet de vols secs vendus par des agences douteuses : il s'agit là de personnes qui organisent eux-mêmes leurs voyages, avec des budgets serrés.
Tout le monde ne souhaite pas organiser son propre voyage, tout le monde ne veut pas voyager en solo, et certains n'ont pas envie de se faire ch... pour ça. Donc, en effet, certains en profitent pour plumer ces gens-là.
Bonjour,
Cela n'a rien à voir. Des voyagistes peu scrupuleux qui abusent de clients mal informés, il y en a dans toutes les gammes de prix. Voyez par exemple sur ce site le nombre de plaintes de voyageurs au sujet de vols secs vendus par des agences douteuses : il s'agit là de personnes qui organisent eux-mêmes leurs voyages, avec des budgets serrés.
Bonjour,
Certes, mais ce sera plus répandu chez les personnes n'organisant pas eux-mêmes leurs voyages. Plus on connaît, moins on a de risques de se faire avoir, même si l'on n'est jamais à l'abri, dans certains cas. 🙂
Certes, mais ce sera plus répandu chez les personnes n'organisant pas eux-mêmes leurs voyages. Plus on connaît, moins on a de risques de se faire avoir, même si l'on n'est jamais à l'abri, dans certains cas. 🙂
Mon blog de voyage : http://xn--duncontinentlautre-qrb.com
Les termes clés sont "plus on connaît". Vu les clichés répandus sur le Japon*, il n'est guère étonnant que les primo-visiteurs soient saisis d'angoisse à l'idée de devoir s'y dépatouiller tout seuls ...
* c'est cher, c'est loin, c'est compliqué, la barrière de la langue rend toute communication impossible, on ne manque quasiment que du poisson, Tokyo est américanisée/pas le vrai Japon, ... 😉
* c'est cher, c'est loin, c'est compliqué, la barrière de la langue rend toute communication impossible, on ne manque quasiment que du poisson, Tokyo est américanisée/pas le vrai Japon, ... 😉
Il faut quand même être honnête :
- Cher, ça l'est quand même un peu, notamment en comparaison des autres pays d'Asie. - Loin, c'est un fait. - La barrière de la langue, elle est là... Parfois, ce n'est pas évident.
Il faut être débrouillard pour voyager au Japon, et ne pas en être à son premier voyage seul.
- Cher, ça l'est quand même un peu, notamment en comparaison des autres pays d'Asie. - Loin, c'est un fait. - La barrière de la langue, elle est là... Parfois, ce n'est pas évident.
Il faut être débrouillard pour voyager au Japon, et ne pas en être à son premier voyage seul.
Mon blog de voyage : http://xn--duncontinentlautre-qrb.com
la barrière de la langue rend toute communication impossible
Avec notamment les récits des déboires de primo-voyageurs partis avec la certitude que tous les Japonais parlent anglais parce que "de nos jours, tout le monde parle anglais dans les pays développés, et d'ailleurs, tous les Japonais qui viennent au siège à Paris parlent très bien anglais".
on ne manque quasiment que du poisson
Ah non, on n'en manque pas, quand même ! (la faute de frappe qui tue...😏)
Avec notamment les récits des déboires de primo-voyageurs partis avec la certitude que tous les Japonais parlent anglais parce que "de nos jours, tout le monde parle anglais dans les pays développés, et d'ailleurs, tous les Japonais qui viennent au siège à Paris parlent très bien anglais".
on ne manque quasiment que du poisson
Ah non, on n'en manque pas, quand même ! (la faute de frappe qui tue...😏)
Il faut quand même être honnête :
- Cher, ça l'est quand même un peu, notamment en comparaison des autres pays d'Asie. - Loin, c'est un fait. - La barrière de la langue, elle est là... Parfois, ce n'est pas évident.
Il faut être débrouillard pour voyager au Japon, et ne pas en être à son premier voyage seul.
Cher par rapport aux pays plus pauvres de la région, certes, mais pas vraiment en comparaison d'autres destinations de vacances d'un niveau de développement économique comparable au nôtre.
Les pays d'Asie moins chers que le Japon sont lointains aussi ...
La barrière de la langue n'est pas spécifique au Japon.
Il faut être un minimum débrouillard dès qu'on sort de sa zone de familiarité, et s'il existe une destination recommandée pour un premier voyage seul(e), en santé et en sécurité, c'est bien le Japon (et peut-être Singapour).
- Cher, ça l'est quand même un peu, notamment en comparaison des autres pays d'Asie. - Loin, c'est un fait. - La barrière de la langue, elle est là... Parfois, ce n'est pas évident.
Il faut être débrouillard pour voyager au Japon, et ne pas en être à son premier voyage seul.
Cher par rapport aux pays plus pauvres de la région, certes, mais pas vraiment en comparaison d'autres destinations de vacances d'un niveau de développement économique comparable au nôtre.
Les pays d'Asie moins chers que le Japon sont lointains aussi ...
La barrière de la langue n'est pas spécifique au Japon.
Il faut être un minimum débrouillard dès qu'on sort de sa zone de familiarité, et s'il existe une destination recommandée pour un premier voyage seul(e), en santé et en sécurité, c'est bien le Japon (et peut-être Singapour).
Mouais, je ne suis pas d'accord sur tout. Mais ce n'est pas bien grave. 😛
Mon blog de voyage : http://xn--duncontinentlautre-qrb.com
on ne manque quasiment que du poisson
Ah non, on n'en manque pas, quand même ! (la faute de frappe qui tue...😏)
C'est la faute du correcteur automatique, si, si ! 😊😊😊
Ah non, on n'en manque pas, quand même ! (la faute de frappe qui tue...😏)
C'est la faute du correcteur automatique, si, si ! 😊😊😊
Cher par rapport aux pays plus pauvres de la région, certes, mais pas vraiment en comparaison d'autres destinations de vacances d'un niveau de développement économique comparable au nôtre.
C'est sûr, le Cambodge ou le Vietnam sont bien moins chers, mais bon, ils font partie des pays les plus pauvres. En revanche, le Royaume-Uni ou la Scandinavie, et même les EUA, reviennent plus cher que le Japon, qui est à peu près au niveau de la France.
La barrière de la langue n'est pas spécifique au Japon.
Oui, le fait est que les japonais ne maîtrisent pas trop l'anglais, mais il suffit d'aller en Serbie, par exemple : on a la barrière de la langue, la méconnaissance de l'anglais et l'alphabet imbitable ^^
C'est sûr, le Cambodge ou le Vietnam sont bien moins chers, mais bon, ils font partie des pays les plus pauvres. En revanche, le Royaume-Uni ou la Scandinavie, et même les EUA, reviennent plus cher que le Japon, qui est à peu près au niveau de la France.
La barrière de la langue n'est pas spécifique au Japon.
Oui, le fait est que les japonais ne maîtrisent pas trop l'anglais, mais il suffit d'aller en Serbie, par exemple : on a la barrière de la langue, la méconnaissance de l'anglais et l'alphabet imbitable ^^
Bonjour Goupillon 66,
J'ai réalisé ce voyage en 2011, voyage planifié à l'origine quelques semaines après le tremblement de terre, qui a ensuite été décalé sur novembre 2011.
Au lieu des 30 à 40 touristes nous étions que 3 plus 1 guide japonaise.
Mon retour sur ce voyage ne reflètera pas le voyage qu'ils proposent aujourd'hui.
Ce que je peux te dire, c'est que le rythme est très soutenu, un peu trop par moment
le voyage est assez cher surtout si l'on compare à un voyage organisé par tes propres moyens (ce que nous avons fait pour notre deuxième voyage) mais les prestations sont très élevées, voir trop.
Certains restos où nous avons mangé, dépassaient les 75€ par personne, et pour les hôtels c'était la même chose, toujours du 3 voir 4 étoiles.
Sur notre voyage à l'époque, il y avait 1 seul trajet en train, pour aller à Hiroshima, le reste c'est du bus, donc cela peut être long.
Pour nous le bus avait été remplacé par un mini-van luxe.
L'avantage que nous avions, hélas à cause du tremblement de terre, c'était d'être uniquement 3 touristes pour 1 guide, du coup beaucoup d'explications en plus, des visites en plus...
Mais avec du recul et une expérience en solo, je ne retenterai pas l'aventure, certes créer son voyage demande plus de temps et d'implication, mais la différence de coût n'est pas négligeable.
Après je serais moins "moralisateur" que certains sur ce forum, car j'ai réalisé mon premier voyage en utilisant Jet tour (d'ailleurs au passage le voyagiste jet tour achète ce circuit clef en main à un voyagiste Japonais), à l'époque nous n'étions pas dans l'optique de réaliser un deuxième voyage, et l'appréhension de construire un voyage couteux dans un pays ou l'anglais n'est pas monnaie courante, cela nous avait orienté vers la facilité et plus de sécurité d'un voyage organisé.
Maintenant que nous avons testé les deux méthodes, je conseille au gens de tenter l'aventure en solo, même si il faut préparer un minimum son voyage. Et avec l'écart de prix, on peut faire pas mal de chose sur place.
Après je serais moins "moralisateur" que certains sur ce forum, car j'ai réalisé mon premier voyage en utilisant Jet tour (d'ailleurs au passage le voyagiste jet tour achète ce circuit clef en main à un voyagiste Japonais), à l'époque nous n'étions pas dans l'optique de réaliser un deuxième voyage, et l'appréhension de construire un voyage couteux dans un pays ou l'anglais n'est pas monnaie courante, cela nous avait orienté vers la facilité et plus de sécurité d'un voyage organisé.
Maintenant que nous avons testé les deux méthodes, je conseille au gens de tenter l'aventure en solo, même si il faut préparer un minimum son voyage. Et avec l'écart de prix, on peut faire pas mal de chose sur place.
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Hi there,
I’m staying in Atami for 2 nights in October. I was thinking of exploring the area and trying to see Mount Fuji.
I was planning to go to Shizuoka. And also enjoy the onsen (hot springs).
Don’t hesitate to share any tips or recommendations—I’d love to hear them!
Thanks in advance.
I’m staying in Atami for 2 nights in October. I was thinking of exploring the area and trying to see Mount Fuji.
I was planning to go to Shizuoka. And also enjoy the onsen (hot springs).
Don’t hesitate to share any tips or recommendations—I’d love to hear them!
Thanks in advance.
I could really use your help to finalize our trip to Japan.
We’re heading there for three weeks with my partner, starting November 10th. Our plan was to visit Tokyo, Kyoto, and a few stops in between (nothing too original so far…).
However, we’re more into nature and hiking, so even though we do want to explore Tokyo and Kyoto, we’d like to maximize nature stops between the two. Initially, we’d considered places like Kamikochi, but I understand it’s not accessible this late in the season.
Here’s our current itinerary:
1. 2-3 days in Tokyo
2. Fujigoko stop: Mount Mitsutoge - Planned hike: https://www.alltrails.com/fr/randonnee/japan/yamanashi/mount-mitsutoge-trail
3. Suwa / Matsumoto stop: Kirigamine Plateau & Lake Suwa - Planned hike: https://www.alltrails.com/fr/randonnee/japan/nagano/kirigamine-mount-kuruma-yashimagahara-wetland-loop - Matsumoto Castle
4. Nagano stop: Togakushi Sacred Forest - Hike among giant cedars: https://www.alltrails.com/trail/japan/nagano/togakushi-shrine-okusha or https://www.alltrails.com/fr/randonnee/japan/nagano/mount-togakushi-trail - Ebisu-ko fireworks
5. Kiso Valley stop - Senjojiki Cirque - Magome-Tsumago hike: https://www.alltrails.com/trail/japan/gifu/nakasendo-magome-tsumago
6. 3-4 days in Kyoto - Mount Kurama: https://www.alltrails.com/trail/japan/kyoto/kurama-trail
7. 2-3 days in Tokyo
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3. Suwa / Matsumoto stop: Kirigamine Plateau & Lake Suwa - Planned hike: https://www.alltrails.com/fr/randonnee/japan/nagano/kirigamine-mount-kuruma-yashimagahara-wetland-loop - Matsumoto Castle
4. Nagano stop: Togakushi Sacred Forest - Hike among giant cedars: https://www.alltrails.com/trail/japan/nagano/togakushi-shrine-okusha or https://www.alltrails.com/fr/randonnee/japan/nagano/mount-togakushi-trail - Ebisu-ko fireworks
5. Kiso Valley stop - Senjojiki Cirque - Magome-Tsumago hike: https://www.alltrails.com/trail/japan/gifu/nakasendo-magome-tsumago
6. 3-4 days in Kyoto - Mount Kurama: https://www.alltrails.com/trail/japan/kyoto/kurama-trail
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Hey everyone,
Next year, we’re celebrating 20 years of marriage (and travel 🙂), and we’re looking for something new, pretty legendary, and something the teens will enjoy too.
The family council has settled on Japan for now. And it’d have to be a summer trip—no choice there.
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Next year, we’re celebrating 20 years of marriage (and travel 🙂), and we’re looking for something new, pretty legendary, and something the teens will enjoy too.
The family council has settled on Japan for now. And it’d have to be a summer trip—no choice there.
The catch: I keep reading that August isn’t the right season for southern Japan. It’s hot, humid, and there’s a risk of typhoons… Okay, but what does that *actually* mean in practice? Are there any travelers who’ve been there during this time? Is it *that* unbearable? We’re pretty familiar with Southeast Asia—last year, we dealt with scorching heat in Vietnam and insane humidity, plus a typhoon we experienced from a distance, and visiting Angkor in the blazing sun. Is it worse than that?
Thanks for your feedback 😉
hi there
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Thanks in advance
I haven’t found what I’m looking for despite my searches!
For a 15-day trip next spring, I’d like to buy a card (preferably an eSIM, but a physical SIM is fine too) that also lets me make calls in the country (to contact a hotel, a tourist spot, etc.).
You can easily find options just for data, but I haven’t come across any that include calls, texts, or even MMS. Could you recommend something?
Thanks in advance
hi there
I’m planning a trip in September—here’s my rough itinerary. What do you think? Is it easy to rent a car to get around between my stops? Thanks so much!
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Hi,
July 2026: I’m writing to you from Dali.
First, I got scammed on Booking—AI-retouched photos. No tourists at this hotel (Yishanju Designer Hotel), and the reality was horrible: dirty, with a disgusting breakfast. It’s better to use Trip.com here.
Next, the old town was an infernal cacophony, packed with tourists who shoved past without a care. Some vendors harassed you to buy things. All the stalls sold the same cheap plastic junk or other uninteresting stuff. The beautiful scenery was ruined by vendors lining 100% of the alleys. Impossible to walk, crushing heat, nothing good to eat except fresh fruit. Horrible experience.
Day 2: We went to Cangshan Mountain by cable car—the ride was short and nothing spectacular. We were at 2,600 m.
My plan was to see Erhai Lake. Unfortunately, I followed the advice of an AI chatbot: take the boat at Langkan Dock. The Didi dropped us off in the nearest area, which was full of charming little alleys but packed with Chinese tourists. The three-wheeled yellow cabs zoomed through the narrow streets, forcing you to hug the walls, on top of the scooters and other pedestrians to deal with. Crossing the neighborhood was hellish and suffocating. Once out, we hit the "corniche," which was also packed with Chinese tourists. The lake’s edge was all pebbles, and everyone was standing around taking photos. I was with my 5-year-old son. I would’ve liked to sit down and let him play with stones by the water, but it was clear we didn’t belong. They were even shoving each other for a shot! There were no boats in sight. In short, we’d had enough, and there was nothing interesting there either.
On the way back, we had to cross that maze again under the scorching sun. My son was braver than me—I even had a little dizzy spell from all the chaos. Add to that Dali’s altitude (2,200 m), so altitude insomnia, fatigue, and vulnerability during the day...
The restaurants weren’t inviting—the staff served sticky rice in a little bucket. The dishes were wrapped, and you had to figure it out yourself. After that, they ignored you completely, even if you were the only tourist.
On the 3rd day, it was time to leave for Shaxi. I hope to see beautiful villages. But honestly, I’m exhausted by this atmosphere where everything is complicated, communication is never smooth, noise is everywhere, and the behavior of some Chinese people is abusive...
Silver lining: not a drop of rain in 4 days and blue skies.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there... But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there... But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
Hi,
Great article that really captures what makes South Korea so appealing!
South Korea: Between Hallyu and the search for authenticity, the French are falling for the destination
Great article that really captures what makes South Korea so appealing!
South Korea: Between Hallyu and the search for authenticity, the French are falling for the destination
Hello,
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
Hi there,
My girlfriend (23) and I (24) are heading to Japan for the first time from October 20th to November 6th. Here’s our itinerary:
6 nights in Tokyo 1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked) 4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked) 2 nights in Osaka 4 nights back in Tokyo I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno. I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better. Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Thanks so much!
6 nights in Tokyo 1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked) 4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked) 2 nights in Osaka 4 nights back in Tokyo I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno. I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better. Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Thanks so much!
Hi there.
I’m traveling solo to China in October '26, heading to these spots:
Guilin - Yangshuo - Chengdu – Leshan – Chongqing – Zhangjiajie - Furong – Shanghai
Any guides you’d recommend?
Tons of "agencies" (gowithguide, Hellechinaguide, etc.) offer guides. Can I reach out to them? I also speak English.
Any other tips for me?
Thanks! !
Guilin - Yangshuo - Chengdu – Leshan – Chongqing – Zhangjiajie - Furong – Shanghai
Any guides you’d recommend?
Tons of "agencies" (gowithguide, Hellechinaguide, etc.) offer guides. Can I reach out to them? I also speak English.
Any other tips for me?
Thanks! !
Hi there,
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung. Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Thanks in advance!
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung. Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026.
The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting.
Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback?
Is there a better option?
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this!
Michel
hi, does anyone have suggestions or contacts for a private local driver without going through a big travel agency for a multi-day trip in Yunnan?
thanks for any info
thanks for any info
Hi there,
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I’m traveling to Japan with a young adult with autism (ASD) from July 28 to August 8, following a pretty classic route: Osaka, Hiroshima, Kyoto, and Tokyo. I’m looking for a schedule of the most spectacular fireworks displays during that time. So far, the dates for the major *hanabi* events aren’t available online yet. If anyone has them, I’d really appreciate it if you could share!
Hi there,
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone, I’m Julien!
This summer, from late June to late July, I’m planning a one-month solo trip to Japan—my first time!
I’d love to hear your thoughts and advice on the itinerary I’ve put together to explore this amazing country.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Hello everyone,
Like Cedric13600, I’ve booked a flight ticket for 30 days / 29 nights in September 2026, from Beijing to Shanghai. We’re a couple in our sixties who love independent road trips.
I’d like to draw inspiration from the following private itinerary suggested by a travel agency:
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Hello everyone,
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
Hi,
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
I'm 69 years old and heading to China, where most tourist sites are free or discounted for me. However, trip.com either refuses to let me book because the sites are free or doesn’t apply the discount. Does WeChat apply this discount if I book through them? How can I just reserve without paying and pay on-site? Is that possible?
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
Hi there,
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
Hi there,
We just got back from a 2-week trip to China as a couple, and before we left, the budget was the hardest thing to picture concretely. We found plenty of info on visas, apps, transport, and itineraries, but way fewer detailed breakdowns of what you *actually* spend on the ground.
So, we took the time to share our real budget for 14 days. In our case, we spent around 1,800 € per person, with a big chunk of that going toward round-trip flights at about 600 € per person. We were also pretty surprised by how affordable China can be once you’re there—transport is often cheap, and a lot of everyday expenses stay reasonable.
The trickiest part, in the end, was figuring out how to pay while you’re there, since it’s not always obvious if you’re not prepared. But once everything’s set up and you get the hang of it, it’s really smooth.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea before they go, we’ve broken it all down here:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-2-semaines-de-voyage-en-chine/
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Hi everyone,
I’ve been planning several itineraries for a trip to Japan with my wife but would love your insights before we start booking!
In short, we want to go during Golden Week, see late-blooming cherry trees, and have the freedom to get around with a rental car.
Here’s the plan:
18-day itinerary in Japan (April 25 → May 12)
Goal: freedom, late cherry blossoms, culture & nature
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
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Secondly, for using phone and internet, I have Orange—is it reliable, or should I go with Airalo instead?






