Je compte me rendre au Kirghizstan vers mi octobre. J'ai fouillé les sujets VF, mais rien trouvé de précis et de récent concernant ma demande.
Je sais, qu'en tant que citoyen français, on n'a pas besoin de visa et on obtient une autorisation de séjour de 60 jours. Mais faut-il justifier d'un billet de sortie du territoire avant la fin des 60 jours ?
Je compte prendre un aller simple (depuis Oslo). Les compagnies aériennes peuvent-elles me refuser l'embarquement (je n'aurai ni billet retour, ni billet de continuation) ?
Voici la deuxième question : quelqu'un a-t-il récemment obtenu un visa chinois à Bichkek ? Les derniers posts à ce sujet datent trop et les choses changent tellement vite dans ce domaine...
Une chose que je ne comprends pas trop : pour la Chine (en tous les cas depuis la France), il est demandé un billet aller-retour et vous recevez un visa de 30 jours. Mais il est également possible de prolonger son visa d'un mois une fois sur place. Ca me laisse perplexe !
Une chose que je ne comprends pas trop : pour la Chine (en tous les cas depuis la France), il est demandé un billet aller-retour et vous recevez un visa de 30 jours. Mais il est également possible de prolonger son visa d'un mois une fois sur place. Ca me laisse perplexe !
Bonjour,
Il n'est pas demandé un billet aller-retour, mais un billet de continuation (vers un pays tiers), ce qui n'est pas du tout la même chose. Par ailleurs, il est aussi possible de montrer que l'on va quitter la Chine par voie terrestre sur la foi d'un visa pour ce pays (Vietnam, par exemple) : il y a de loin en loin des témoignages à ce sujet. Enfin, tous les billets d'avion ne sont pas à date fixe non modifiable.
La Chine, comme beaucoup d'autres pays dont la France, cherche à empêcher de faux touristes d'entrer dans le pays pour y travailler illégalement.
Oui, il faut une preuve de sortie du territoire...Continuation ou aller-retour, ça ne change pas mon problème en fait. Je comptais retourner ensuite au Kirghizstan, qui ne demande pas de visa...Pour les billets modifiables, ils sont en général nettement plus chers.
Il ne doit quand-même pas y avoir beaucoup de français cherchant à entrer en Chine pour y travailler illégalement...
Il ne doit quand-même pas y avoir beaucoup de français cherchant à entrer en Chine pour y travailler illégalement...
Je m'attendais à cette réponse. 🙂
Ils sont beaucoup plus nombreux que vous le croyez, notamment des jeunes qui ne remplissent pas les conditions de formation supérieure et d'expérience professionnelle exigées pour obtenir un visa chinois de travail, et qui pour ces mêmes raisons ne trouvent pas de travail en France.
Je veux bien vous croire, mais je suis curieux. Avez-vous un exemple concret ? Quel type de métier/travail ?
Je n'ai pas l'intention de détailler ici des situations parfaitement légitimes que j'ai connues à titre professionnel en Chine (et d'autres symétriques en France, d'ailleurs).
Il y a aussi en Chine, tout comme en France, des entreprises qui n'ont aucun état d'âme à faire appel à de la main d'œuvre en situation illégale, dont elle pourra abuser en raison de leur vulnérabilité administrative. Lisez par exemple cette discussion.
Et je ne vois pas en quoi des règles strictes au niveau des visas "touriste" changerait quelque-chose à ce problème...
Dommage pour l'exemple, ça aurait pu être intéressant...pas besoin de citer de noms ou quoi que ce soit, c'était pas compliqué...Bref, pas grave, et ça n'est pas le sujet de la discussion...et pour les règles concernant le visa "touriste", non, je ne vois pas ce que ça change...
Bonjour Fann,
Je me pose presque les memes questions, désirant également entrer en Chine depuis le Kirghistan.
Pour le visa, est ce qu'un billet de bus par le col de l'Irkestan ou du Torugart sont acceptés ? Ces 2 cols sont ils ouverts en novembre/décembre (compte tenu de l'altitude évelée)
Qu'en est il du passage par le Khazastan et du col entre Yining et Urumqi ?
Ce que je sais et ai personnellement expérimenté (passage de la frontière Laos ou Vietnam) un billet de bus est suffisant pour le visa de 1 mois, mais pas pour un visa de 2 mois ou on m'a imperativement demande des billets d'avion.
En ce qui concerne les prolongations de visa de 1 mois, les 3 dernières fois ou j'en ai demande, le PSB m'a à chaque fois imposé un délai de 10 jours pour l'obtention, ce qui revient à dire qu'il ne vous reste plus que 20 jours de disponible...
Autant que je le sache, les visas de 2 mois imposent une sortie du pays au bout des 30 premiers jours. Celle ci pouvant être Hong Kong.
En ce qui concerne les billets d'avion modifiables, non seulement ceux ci sont plus chers mais en général il faut s'aquitter d'un certain montant en sus (environ + 100 euros) pour toute modification...A ce prix, vous pouvez trouver des vols pour les pays limitrophes (Air Asia, par exemple), quitte à ne pas les utiliser.
Avez vous plus d'informations ? Merci de me tenir au courant
Désolé mais je n'ai pas plus d'informations. De quand date votre dernier voyage en Chine (celui où vous êtes sortie en bus) ? Etiez-vous entrée en Chine en bus également ?
L'idéal serait pour moi de pouvoir entrer en Chine en bus...Après je retournerai au Kirghizstan (en bus si je peux)...Et oui, si ça n'est pas possible, je crois que le plus simple est de prendre un billet très peu cher, quitte à ne pas l'utiliser.
Quels PSB vous ont demandé 10 jrs ? J'ai lu que celui de Kunming était plutôt rapide...
Alors le premier qui a trouvé prévient l'autre :)
J'ai contacté "Kirghiz Concept", dont j'avais trouvé les coordonnées sur ce forum, mais ils ne s'occupent plus des visas pour la Chine.
Bonjour Fann,
Excuse pour le temps mis à te repondre, je ne dispose pas d'internet à la maison.
Ma dernière entrée en Chine en bus date de mai 2017 en arrivant du Laos. Je l'ai fait plusieurs fois sans problème si tu demandes un visa de 1 mois, pour le visa de 2 mois on m'a impérativement un billet d'avion entrée et sortie.
Pour le délai pour l'extension, au voyage précédent le PSB me l' établit en 3 jours à Dali. Le suivant, j'en ai fait 2, un en novembre 2016 qui m'a pris 10 jours à Guilin, et le second en juin 2017 également 10 jours à Chengdu. Je crains que le délai de 10 jours soit devenu la règle.
En ce qui concerne le passage de la frontière Chine, ne pouvant partir avant le début novembre, je crains que les cols Irkeshan et Torugart (Chine/kirghistan) ne soient fermés pour la saison hiver. Reste la solution de passer par le Kazakstan : Alma Ata /Yinning. Je ne connais pas la route Yinning / frontière, j'ai seulement fait Yining / Urumqi. Elle passe aussi en altitude si je me souviens bien plus de 3000m.... Un conseil, soit tres en règle si tu passes par Yining, le PSB y est particulèièrement sévère (il y a eu pas mal de problème dans cette ville).
Je pense que tu es au courant que le Kasakstan n'exige plus de visa pour un séjour de 1 mois.
S'il te plait, tiens moi au courant de tes recherches. Bon courage et patience
Merci pour toutes ces précisions...J'ai un peu laissé de côté les recherches niveau visa chinois car la raison qui me faisait aller en Chine a été repoussée à une date ultérieure (et je ne sais pas quand). Du coup, je vais peut-être faire d'abord un arrêt prolongé en Géorgie/Arménie, avec un passage au Kurdistan irakien si possible.
J'espère que tu as eu des réponses. Tiens moi au courant.
Bonjour Fann,
Pour le passage Georgie/Armenie vers Iran à ma connaissance c'est possible. Je garde cette destination pour l'an prochain pensant que ces régions sont froides en hiver.
De mon côté, j'ai aussi bouleversé mes projets, actuellement j'hésite entre Inde/Népal et Brésil. Le premier est problèmatique et cher au niveau visa...
Je pense que la decision sera prise dans les jours qui viennent
Bonne route à toi
Bonne prise de décision alors...Problématique le visa indien ? En quoi ? Ils ne délivrent plus de visas de 6 mois ? Je ne sais pas quel est son prix, mais l'Inde est nettement moins chère que le Brésil, donc sur une longue période c'est vite "récupéré".
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Hi there,
I know there are similar topics here and elsewhere, but they’re a few years old, and I need an up-to-date answer to make sure I don’t throw over 1000 € out the window. Thanks for your patience.
I’m planning a trip from France to Alberta/British Columbia, and I’m unsure about which bank card to use for the security deposit with the rental company (I’m thinking of going with AVIS).
I contacted Avis Canada, and they told me a credit card is absolutely required. I asked my bank for a credit card (a *real* credit card), but they only offered me a deferred debit card.
My question: For a rental with Avis Canada, is a Gold International Mastercard deferred debit card usable for the security deposit needed to finalize the rental? Is the "CREDIT" label enough? (Some cards say "CREDIT" and others say "CARTE DE CREDIT"—seems minor, but it’s actually a big deal in how the card works.)
I’ve seen conflicting info everywhere I look... My bank says it’s *usually* okay (the deferred debit card), while Avis Canada insists it *must* be a credit card, not debit—even when I mention the deferred debit card.
I know the whole credit card concept is already confusing, and on top of that, some sites say a deferred debit card counts as a credit card, while others say it doesn’t.
Thanks to anyone who can share a recent experience!
Have a great day
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I have a 9-seater passenger vehicle that I use for my business in Paris, transporting people.
I’m planning to go to Algeria with my family.
The vehicle registration lists my company as the owner.
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Thanks for your help.
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What’s the process, and which insurance should I get?
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
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It was closed for a while.
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My passport expires 3 weeks after the return date.
Some websites say the passport must be valid for 3 months at the time of entry.
However, it will still be valid both on entry and return, but its validity will only be 1 month at the time of entry (and 3 weeks on the return date, everything prepaid).
It's an individual family trip.
The consulate can't give me an answer—they're still looking into it (really!)
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht).
This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea?
Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast!
Cheers,
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Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
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No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
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Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
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Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival?
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Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
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I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month.
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Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
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I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay.
If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand,
do I need to submit a new TDAC application?
Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
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My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window.
The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days.
2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date.
If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period.
In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th.
The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
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Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
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