Je suis étudiante en M1 tourisme et culture et je dois réfléchir à un sujet de mémoire de M2 pour l'année prochaine. Comme je suis d'origine chinoise, je pensais au tourisme français en Chine.
Mais j'aimerais savoir ce qui vous motive en venant en Chine, ce que vous y recherchez ou comment vous voyagez.
En vous lisant, je pense que je saurai mieux vers quoi orienter ma recherche.
Tout d'abord, j'ai lu quelque part (et bien entendu je ne me souviens pas où) que la plupart des touristes venant en Chine le faisaient en voyage organisé. Cela peut être une piste pour tes recherches.
Ce qui me fait penser que la langue peut être un frein à la venue en Chine. Une autre piste ?
Si je suis venu en Chine et y suis retourné c'est pour sa culture, sa vastité (oui, le mot existe), sa diversité, etc. Ma première fois en Chine, c'était en 1993... Et j'y allais notamment parce que c'était extrêmement mystérieux. Aujourd'hui, pourquoi y va-t-on?
Il y a tellement à voir et à faire qu'il est difficile de répondre à cette question. Mais sache qu'il y a des gens qui n'y vont qu'une fois (un peu le voyage de leur vie) : ils "font" la Chine légendaire (Beijing, Grande Muraille, Shanghai, Xi'An et l'Armée de terre enterrée, etc.). D'autres suivent une route : route du thé, route de la soie, etc. C'est thématique parfois, le choix du voyage, parce qu'on ne peut pas tout voir. Un peu comme au Louvre. Soit tu veux tout visiter et tu vas au pas de charge, et tu es gavé.e, sois tu te consacres à une salle/un département/une collection en particulier, et tu apprécies vraiment, et ça te donne envie de revenir.
Il y a des gens aussi (un peu comme en Inde ou en Thaïlande - et sans doute ailleurs) qui se spécialisent encore plus ; ils ne sont plus voyageurs nomades, mais sédentaires : qui fait des stages de tai chi, qui apprend la médecine chinoise, qui se rend dans une école d'arts martiaux, qui s'inscrit à l'université et apprend la langue, qui apprend la calligraphie, etc.
Il est aussi des touristes qui s'y rendent par curiosité. J'ai entendu des gens dire qu'ils aimaient la Chine pour les filles ou l'alcool pas cher ou la vie pas chère (ça change). Tu trouves de tout.
Et puis tout simplement : la nature (l'Himalaya, le Gobi...) ; la culture au sens large (les musées, les sites historiques et naturels, la vie de tous les jours, les ethnies, la gastronomie...) ; la découverte d'un autre monde (rythme de vie, économie galopante...) ; le shopping ; etc.
Il y aurait tant à dire...
Quand j'aurai d'autres idées, je reviendrai ici.
Bonne chance à toi, je suis sûr que tu trouveras des directions intéressantes avec les autres véféistes.
Mais j'aimerais savoir ce qui vous motive en venant en Chine, ce que vous y recherchez ou comment vous voyagez.
bonsoir je ne suis jamais allé en Chine mais évidemment dès que l'occasion se présente je n'hésiterai pas.
Ce qui m'attire surtout c'est Urumqi, le Xinchiang et le désert de Gobi et j'aimerais me perdre dans ce désert.
Bref les latitudes qui décrivent l'infini...
Merci pour toutes ces réponses, c'est très intéressant. Pour l'instant, j'ai plusieurs pistes mais il faut que je réduise le champ de mes interrogations. Merci, je reviendrai à vous éventuellement.
Merci pour votre réponse. Je note que ce sont des endroits qui ne correspondent pas vraiment à la Chine traditionnelle qui vous attirent : pas de Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Xi'An, Guilin, Yunnan.
Bonjour Coco,
Une notion importante, sinon centrale est la fascination qu'excerce l'extrême sur l'occident. Bien qu'il y ait de nombreux pays en Asie qui attirent les touristes occidentaux, très peu proposent une coupure totale avec la civilisation occidentale, car la plupart parlent l'anglais ou pratiquent le tourisme avec des normes américaines ou européennes et d'autres comme le Vietnam propose des traditions françaises comme la baguette ou le café au gout français. C'est pour cela que la chine avec sa civilisation de plusieurs millénaires et en se coupant du monde extérieur pendant une très longue période représente bien l'Asie mystérieuse et tellement différente de notre culture.
C'est vrai que la plupart des touristes français visitent la Chine avec l'aide de voyages organisés, ce qui gâche un peu la qualité du voyage, surtout pour ceux qui sont à la recherche de cette magie orientale. Par exemple, il est bien plus facile de visiter Singapour où tout le monde parle anglais et vit à l'occidentale, où les repaires sont évidents, bien que 80 % des gens soient des Chinois. Dans cette ville, on trouvera plein de choses merveilleuses à visiter, mais on n'y trouvera pas le charme de l'Extrême-Orient. En Chine, le choc des civilisations peut être intense, surtout si on arrive d'Europe directement dans une ville de province comme Chengdu, Kunming ou Guilin...
De ce fait, voyager en Chine par ses propres moyens est moins aisé qu"ailleurs, mais permet de rencontrer une richesse culturelle très impressionnante.
Une notion importante, sinon centrale est la fascination qu'excerce l'extrême sur l'occident.
Vous voulez dire ce qui est extrême ? Ou vous parlez de l'extrême-Orient ? Parce que j'ai l'impression que certains occidentaux sont plutôt pantouflards (et aussi les non occidentaux en fait).
Bien qu'il y ait de nombreux pays en Asie qui attirent les touristes occidentaux, très peu proposent une coupure totale avec la civilisation occidentale, car la plupart parlent l'anglais ou pratiquent le tourisme avec des normes américaines ou européennes et d'autres comme le Vietnam propose des traditions françaises comme la baguette ou le café au gout français. (...) En Chine, le choc des civilisations peut être intense (...)
Vous ne croyez pas justement que ça fait peur à beaucoup. Peut-être est-ce la raison pour laquelle la plupart des occidentaux qui visitent la Chine le font en voyage organisé ? Peut-être que si la Chine n'était pas si "extrême", il y aurait plus de touristes là-bas ?
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🙂 Merci !
Et vous ? Quelle est votre histoire avec la Chine ? Y vivez-vous ? Vous citez le Yunnan, ma famille est originaire de là-bas mais je n'y suis jamais allée. J'espère y aller bientôt. Vous me conseillez cette province ?
Oui , c'est "Extrême-Orient" et non extrême. Le correcteur automatique me joue des tours !
La première fois que je suis allé en Chine, c'était pour y faire des photos. je voulais restituer cette ambiance orientale si fascinante en photographiant les pêcheurs aux cormorans et les paysages de la région de Guilin. Restituer le fameux style shanshui de la culture chinoise. Mais à côté de cet objectif que je m'étais fixé, la découverte de la Chine et surtout les contacts avec la population chinoise a été un véritable électrochoc, tant la différence de culture était évidente. J'avais l'impression de me retrouver sur une autre planète.
Guangxi, Le style Shanshui sur la rivière Li.
Ensuite, j'y suis retourné de nombreuses fois. La découverte du Yunnan m'a beaucoup marqué avec notamment la plaine de Shaxi et la vallée du Lancang jiang ( Mekong river ) en bordure de la Birmanie. Avec l'impression de vraiment se retrouver au cœur de l'Asie. Cette région est connue sous le nom poétique de "route des chevaux et du thé". Dans ces zones non encore envahies par le tourisme, l'amabilité et la bienveillance des Chinois sont très agréables. Si votre famille est originaire de là-bas, c'est là que vous devez aller. Peut-être la plus belle région de Chine.
Yunnan, village de Shaxi, le théatre antique sur la place du village.
Merci pour votre réponse. Je note que ce sont des endroits qui ne correspondent pas vraiment à la Chine traditionnelle qui vous attirent : pas de Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Xi'An, Guilin, Yunnan.
bonsoir Coco peut-être me suis-je mal fait comprendre; la Chine traditionnelle m'attire beaucoup mais la Chine moderne également
Merci pour votre réponse. Je note que ce sont des endroits qui ne correspondent pas vraiment à la Chine traditionnelle qui vous attirent : pas de Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Xi'An, Guilin, Yunnan.
bonsoir Coco peut-être me suis-je mal fait comprendre; la Chine traditionnelle m'attire beaucoup mais la Chine moderne également
bonjour
Nous sommes rentrés de Chine la semaine dernière. 4 semaines au Yunnan et c'était notre second séjour en Chine. Nous y retournerons, car nous n'avons toujours pas visité Pékin, la Grande Muraille (bref le grand classique).
C'est notre fils et son amie qui nous ont convaincus de partir en Chine (premier voyage en 2016)
Nous avons voyagé majoritairement seuls (nous avons 64 et 65 ans), avons pris trains, bus, avion et pendant 6 jours environ un chauffeur pour nous emmener dans les villages Dong et Mio.
Pour le Yunnan, comme nous étions 4 personnes, avons opté pour organiser le voyage avec une agence locale (si nous rencontrons des difficultés, à 2 cela va, à 4 c'est plus ennuyeux, surtout pour celui ou celle qui est en charge de l'organisation!).
Pourquoi la Chine? le pays est vaste et les paysages variés, et nous avons été conquis pas l'accueil, la gentillesse des chinois, même avec la barrière de la langue.
Bref, beaucoup de raisons pour y aller et y retourner
J'ajoute à la liste dressée par Burnaby les gens qui sont envoyés en Chine à titre professionnel pour des missions longues, allant de plusieurs mois à plusieurs années.
Certains ne s'intéressent pas au pays (qu'il s'agisse de la Chine ou de tout autre pays très différent du leur - j'ai vu le même comportement au Japon et à Taïwan), s'enferment dans un microcosme d'expatriés en attendant la fin de ce qu'ils ressentent comme un purgatoire dans leur parcours professionnel, et rentrent en n'ayant rien appris sinon des clichés.
D'autres en profitent pour découvrir un peu le pays, et par la suite y reviennent pour approfondir le sujet, utilisant leur expérience initiale pour sortir des grands classiques. Pendant leur séjour en Chine, ils servent aussi de points de chute et de guides pour des amis ou famille qui ne seraient pas venus seuls et n'aiment pas les voyages organisés. Leurs centres d'intérêt et leurs modes de voyage dans le pays peuvent être bien sûr extrêmement variés.
Pour donner un ordre de grandeur : il y a dix ans, rien qu'à Beijing, il y avait en chiffres ronds 100 000 expatriés dont 10 000 Français (*). Je ne saurais cependant pas dire quelle était la proportion de ceux qui ne mettaient jamais les pieds dans les bars de Sanlitun.
(* : ce total inclut des étudiants et des micro-entrepreneurs venus tenter leur chance en Chine, aux profils très différents de ceux que je décris plus haut)
Merci pour avoir pris le temps de répondre. Je remarque que pour aller en Chine, beaucoup de gens sont un peu comme vous : on les convainc d'y aller, mais il ne semble pas qu'il s'agisse de la destination à laquelle on pense au premier abord. Et je constate aussi que les gens en reviennent ravis (ou alors uniquement ceux qui postent des messages ici). La barrière de la langue, l'immensité, peut-être le type de régime, le mystère, la foule, jouent peut-être un rôle dans tout ça.
J'ajoute à la liste dressée par Burnaby les gens qui sont envoyés en Chine à titre professionnel pour des missions longues, allant de plusieurs mois à plusieurs années.
Certains ne s'intéressent pas au pays (qu'il s'agisse de la Chine ou de tout autre pays très différent du leur - j'ai vu le même comportement au Japon et à Taïwan), s'enferment dans un microcosme d'expatriés en attendant la fin de ce qu'ils ressentent comme un purgatoire dans leur parcours professionnel, et rentrent en n'ayant rien appris sinon des clichés.
D'autres en profitent pour découvrir un peu le pays, et par la suite y reviennent pour approfondir le sujet, utilisant leur expérience initiale pour sortir des grands classiques. Pendant leur séjour en Chine, ils servent aussi de points de chute et de guides pour des amis ou famille qui ne seraient pas venus seuls et n'aiment pas les voyages organisés. Leurs centres d'intérêt et leurs modes de voyage dans le pays peuvent être bien sûr extrêmement variés.
Pour donner un ordre de grandeur : il y a dix ans, rien qu'à Beijing, il y avait en chiffres ronds 100 000 expatriés dont 10 000 Français (*). Je ne saurais cependant pas dire quelle était la proportion de ceux qui ne mettaient jamais les pieds dans les bars de Sanlitun.
(* : ce total inclut des étudiants et des micro-entrepreneurs venus tenter leur chance en Chine, aux profils très différents de ceux que je décris plus haut)
Merci de l'info concernant les expatriés. Je pourrais parler effectivement de cette forme de tourisme qu'est le tourisme des expatriés. Comment découvrent-ils le pays ? La "publicité" qu'ils font au pays, etc.
Nous partons en Chine pour la 1ère fois dans quelques semaines. Nous avons longtemps hésité à y aller, car :
- Mon épouse d'origine vietnamienne a des préjugés sur les Chinois (tu connais sans doute l'antagonisme historique entre les 2 pays), qui je l'espère ne serons dissipés après notre visite.
- Les circuits proposés semblaient passer par des grandes villes qui ne m'intéressaient pas du tout.
Ce qui a nous fait changer d'avis :
- Le retour d'expérience d'un proche qui nous a montré son film de voyage.
- Après avoir voyager dans beaucoup d'autres pays à travers le monde, il me semblait impensable de passer à côté d'une culture millénaire très riche.
Nous partirons par nous-même, car après avoir contacté des agences, les tarifs étaient excessifs, ce qui nous a beaucoup surpris, alors qu'aujourd'hui il est assez facile de réserver et préparer un voyage par internet. Nous espérons que tout se passera bien malgré la barrière de la langue. Nous pourrons te faire part de nos avis à notre retour.
Mon épouse d'origine vietnamienne a des préjugés sur les Chinois (tu connais sans doute l'antagonisme historique entre les 2 pays)
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- Après avoir voyager dans beaucoup d'autres pays à travers le monde, il me semblait impensable de passer à côté d'une culture millénaire très riche.
Effectivement, c'est une culture très riche et variée. Moi j'aimerais beaucoup aller au Vietnam, j'espère que je ne sentirai aucune animosité de la part des Vietnamiens.
Nous partirons par nous-même, car après avoir contacté des agences, les tarifs étaient excessifs, ce qui nous a beaucoup surpris, alors qu'aujourd'hui il est assez facile de réserver et préparer un voyage par internet.
Oui, je pense que c'est réalisable quand je vois tous ces étrangers qui partent en Chine sans parler la langue, et même certains qui vont en dehors des sentiers battus.
Bon voyage à vous et je vous lirai à votre retour. 🙂
Hi,
Our trip is planned for 20 days in Japan next April. We have a free subscription that would allow us to use 35 GB (I’m a bit confused), but we also need to be able to make phone calls with a French couple traveling with us for a few days, and that seems impossible due to cost... Any solutions for using GPS while keeping those 35 GB? Used to traveling in Southeast Asia, we usually rely on local SIM cards. Is it easy to do the same in Japan?
Thanks for your help!
Best,
Tialou
For April or May 2027, we’d like to find a student guide if possible to show us the best spots and services and guide us around the country for 2-3 weeks on our first trip there.
We’re missing key info to plan this trip, especially recommendations from people who’ve enjoyed places that aren’t necessarily touristy but more intimate.
Thanks in advance
Next year, we’re celebrating 20 years of marriage (and travel 🙂), and we’re looking for something new, pretty legendary, and something the teens will enjoy too.
The family council has settled on Japan for now. And it’d have to be a summer trip—no choice there.
The catch: I keep reading that August isn’t the right season for southern Japan. It’s hot, humid, and there’s a risk of typhoons… Okay, but what does that *actually* mean in practice? Are there any travelers who’ve been there during this time? Is it *that* unbearable?
We’re pretty familiar with Southeast Asia—last year, we dealt with scorching heat in Vietnam and insane humidity, plus a typhoon we experienced from a distance, and visiting Angkor in the blazing sun. Is it worse than that?
Hi,
July 2026: I’m writing to you from Dali.
First, I got scammed on Booking—AI-retouched photos. No tourists at this hotel (Yishanju Designer Hotel), and the reality was horrible: dirty, with a disgusting breakfast. It’s better to use Trip.com here.
Next, the old town was an infernal cacophony, packed with tourists who shoved past without a care. Some vendors harassed you to buy things. All the stalls sold the same cheap plastic junk or other uninteresting stuff. The beautiful scenery was ruined by vendors lining 100% of the alleys. Impossible to walk, crushing heat, nothing good to eat except fresh fruit. Horrible experience.
Day 2: We went to Cangshan Mountain by cable car—the ride was short and nothing spectacular. We were at 2,600 m.
My plan was to see Erhai Lake. Unfortunately, I followed the advice of an AI chatbot: take the boat at Langkan Dock. The Didi dropped us off in the nearest area, which was full of charming little alleys but packed with Chinese tourists. The three-wheeled yellow cabs zoomed through the narrow streets, forcing you to hug the walls, on top of the scooters and other pedestrians to deal with. Crossing the neighborhood was hellish and suffocating. Once out, we hit the "corniche," which was also packed with Chinese tourists. The lake’s edge was all pebbles, and everyone was standing around taking photos. I was with my 5-year-old son. I would’ve liked to sit down and let him play with stones by the water, but it was clear we didn’t belong. They were even shoving each other for a shot! There were no boats in sight. In short, we’d had enough, and there was nothing interesting there either.
On the way back, we had to cross that maze again under the scorching sun. My son was braver than me—I even had a little dizzy spell from all the chaos. Add to that Dali’s altitude (2,200 m), so altitude insomnia, fatigue, and vulnerability during the day...
The restaurants weren’t inviting—the staff served sticky rice in a little bucket. The dishes were wrapped, and you had to figure it out yourself. After that, they ignored you completely, even if you were the only tourist.
On the 3rd day, it was time to leave for Shaxi. I hope to see beautiful villages. But honestly, I’m exhausted by this atmosphere where everything is complicated, communication is never smooth, noise is everywhere, and the behavior of some Chinese people is abusive...
Silver lining: not a drop of rain in 4 days and blue skies.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there...
But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
I’m heading to Yunnan in February 2027.
We’ll be traveling exclusively by train since my daughter gets car sick.
Our itinerary includes:
Kunming
Jianshui
Dali
Shaxi
Lijiang
Shangri-La
I’d love any tips, especially other places to visit (without winding roads) or great hotel, guesthouse, or minsu recommendations.
Thanks!
Claudine
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In the sea of VPNs, I'm looking for one to use in China for just a month (free or paid). Which one should I pick? All the ones I've found are for several months or even a year.
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Hi,
My departure is coming up soon—two months backpacking in Taiwan, so much to discover! I’d love to hear about your travel experiences.
My main interests are meeting people, understanding how things work, hiking, and nature in general. I’ve also done a lot of reading about Taiwan’s complex situation.
I do stone sculpture.
I also want to visit Orchid Island for its history.
Marie
Hi,
I’ve always been used to exchanging my money (€) in town no matter the country (with a "mini exchange" at the airport if needed).
I can’t find any recent posts on this topic from the last few years.
Does anyone have any insights on this? Intrinsic benefits, best places to exchange, etc.?
I arrive at Tokyo Haneda on a Friday around 12:30 PM, and my first night is very close to Shinjuku.
Thanks.
Here are some tips from our 6-week trip (summer 2026) to China, Vietnam, and Cambodia. We traveled as a family of four with two kids aged 15 and 12.
I hope these notes help other travelers!
CHINA
General
You’ll need to download and set up a few apps:
- Alipay and WeChat for payments (I didn’t withdraw a single bill the entire trip)
- Didi for taxis
- Amap = Chinese Maps (works great, especially for subways)
- A translation app (we used Papago, but it sometimes gave weird results)
- Google Lens for translating menus or signs—super handy.
- HelloRide for bikes
- Gemini and ChatGPT for everything: understanding daily life, enhancing visits, checking the weather, finding things.
- HomeExchange if you want to lower travel costs (few listings in Asia except in big cities, often expats)
- Trip.com is very useful, even essential, for trains, domestic flights, and hotels. Like Booking.com, the more you book with them, the more perks you get. So I’d even suggest checking flight tickets on this site, even if it’s a bit pricier. However, buying train tickets is complicated because (1) they only open 15 days in advance, and (2) they sell out fast. Trip.com just promises to buy them as soon as they’re available but doesn’t always succeed. It’s stressful and might force you to change your plans, especially if you’re aiming for a sleeper car and there are no seats left. Watch out for station names—many cities have multiple stations, including a high-speed rail one outside the city.
For internet, we got the Asia plan from Holafly. It worked but seemed much slower than Chinese internet. I regretted not buying a Chinese SIM card because without internet in China, everything is VERY complicated (money, transport, etc.).
For the firewall, we used ExpressVPN, but it wasn’t always reliable. A bit disappointing. Ask ChatGPT for tips with screenshots to improve the settings.
Since we only had one SIM card with internet, we couldn’t rent shared bikes. If I were to do it again, I’d get a SIM for each person, even the kids, because distances in cities are huge. We walked *a lot*. Same goes for buses—it’s tricky with just one internet connection. Better to have a phone per person with internet.
Book your visits as far in advance as possible—they often sell out.
Watch out for power banks: if they don’t explicitly say "3C," they’ll confiscate it. Even if there’s a little airplane logo.
Shanghai
In the evening, the streets leading to the Bund from the metro were so crowded that police were out in force blocking roads. Arrive early. We went around the north side.
Suzhou
Be careful—there are two stations (common in China), and the high-speed rail one is 45–50 minutes from the old town.
The Humble Administrator’s Garden was *packed*—we don’t recommend it. It turned into a marathon day from Shanghai (almost 4 hours from our hotel to the garden).
Beijing
Forbidden City: Don’t go—I know it’s a shame, but it’s too crowded. I couldn’t buy tickets on the official site because of the kids’ passports. We ended up with a guided tour, the only way to get in (tickets sell out fast). The visit was disappointing—bad guide *and* massive crowds. You’ll queue a lot to enter and see certain areas. You’ll be checked often, so pack your bags carefully.
Great Wall at Mutianyu: Crowded. Two hours by bus, and even though we arrived early, people were already leaving! I really think the best option is to leave your big bags in Beijing and stay overnight near the Wall. That way, you’ll have it to yourself a bit more. For transport: get off at Tiananmen Square metro and look for buses with official guides in bright yellow-green vests. No need to buy tickets online—they made me cancel mine to rebook on the spot. Buses leave when full. Note: the cable car and chairlift are separate—if you want to go up one side and down the other, you’ll need different tickets. The endless queue for the toboggan ride put us off.
Quick tip: Incredible swimming spot in Beijing—on the north shore of Houhai Lake, you can swim by crossing the barrier. We did it twice with about ten other people. Bring a swimsuit!
Shapotou Desert
Amazing, but it gets *very* hot in the afternoon. We had a tent (not an air-conditioned bungalow), which was unbearable during the day. We hung out in the restaurant.
The paid activities are fun, except the camels—they look sad. The real highlight is the evening and sunset. The only downside: you can’t explore the desert alone or far—they don’t rent 4x4s, for example.
We stayed at "The Desert Camping Hotel of the Proprietress of Shapotou." They were lovely.
Zhongwei
Gaomiao Temple and its underground: Fun and short—you’ll see quirky Buddhist hell paintings.
Xi’an
Terracotta Army: We took a Didi because for four people, a car was almost the same price as four shuttle tickets. It was packed—chaotic to see properly.
We visited the halls in order: 3, 2, then 1—a good choice.
Hua Shan Mountains: Left before sunrise to arrive when the ticket office opened (7 AM, I think). We were shocked to see so many people already coming down.
45 minutes by bus to the west cable car, then 15 minutes up.
We did the west, south, east, central, then north peaks (in that order) before taking the other cable car down (you can buy the ticket at the top). A beautiful day.
In the city, check out...
Chengdu
Panda Research Center: Like Hua Shan, plan to arrive when the ticket office opens. Already *tons* of people, and it moves fast to see the big pandas before their nap. Have them drop you at the west entrance (not south), or you’ll have to walk uphill.
Leshan Giant Buddha: Interesting. The trip is a bit long (metro, then train, then city bus, then shuttle on-site). We didn’t take the boat option but walked. In the end, you only spend a few minutes at the Buddha’s feet, but it’s a nice day out.
Hotel tip: Panda Enjoy Home Hotel Apartments (Chengdu East Railway Station Dongda Road Branch). The view is insane, and the neighborhood is super convenient and nice. 646 CNY for 2 nights.
Swimming: The municipal pool is an interesting experience, but don’t expect to swim—no one does. Everyone just splashes around where they can stand. The hours are a bit odd, with a break in the late afternoon.
Kunming
The bike path along Dian Lake is pretty and often well-protected from cars. But like everywhere in China, it’s *packed*. Not much to say about visits—the flower market is a wholesale market, not very interesting. The ethnic minorities museum closed right in front of us.
All the big malls are good for shopping.
Dali
We thought we could bike around the lake in two days. Wrong on two counts: First, the lake’s edge is blocked to traffic and reserved for bikes (or tourist mini-buses). So you’re stuck on the main road, which never gives you a view of the lake, with all the trucks and cars. Doing 120 km like that wouldn’t make sense, in our opinion. The rice fields around are nice but not as impressive as elsewhere, so Dali isn’t worth it for that.
The old town, all restored, is pretty but *packed*—thousands of people, especially in the evening.
Hekou (Vietnam border)
Comfortable train from Kunming. In the parking lot, a bus (not well-marked, but Didi is an option) takes you to the border in 15–20 minutes. Short wait at both border posts. Fun to see the two lampposts near the border line: the Chinese one is new, modern, with a surveillance camera (of course), while the Vietnamese one is old and a bit rusty.
VIETNAM
General:
- You’ll need the Grab app for taxis
- Very disappointed with 12Go—it doesn’t show all buses, never connects you with the company, and refuses refunds. Try booking directly with companies like FUTA Bus instead.
- Credit cards are often accepted (supermarkets and modern stores), otherwise, you’ll need cash
Lao Cai
2 km between the border and the train station.
The sleeper bus to Hanoi with Sao Viet is well-organized—it works.
Hanoi
Ho Chi Minh Mausoleum closes early (10:30 AM, I think).
Women’s Museum: Very good, not too long
Temple of Literature: Beautiful, fairly quick
This is where you should buy souvenirs, clothes, and knockoffs—the prices are reasonable, and the sellers are nicer than elsewhere. We recommend Cho Dong Xuan.
Tu Long Bay
We did 2 days, 1 night (so really 24 hours on the boat) with Parfum d’Automne (French-speaking agency), which put us on a Cycad Cruise boat. Cost: 300 € per person—expensive, but it was amazing, super luxurious, and the buffet meals were delicious. We don’t regret the splurge. The only downside: no swimming in the bay (but there’s a pool on the boat). To swim, you’d need a 3-day, 2-night trip to an area not protected by the maritime park.
Phong Nha
If you didn’t do the northern mountains due to time or weather (like us), Phong Nha is a great stop for a motorbike ride. It’s beautiful, especially the mountains west of the city toward the caves.
There are two (small) swimming spots at the Botanic Garden—a pleasant 45-minute walk without stops.
Hotel tip: Sunbeam Village (very friendly, pool, breakfast by the river, motorbike rentals)
Da Nang
Hotel tip: Meridians by Hsuite—you’ll have the beach almost to yourself. You’ll still need to walk 15–20 minutes to the hyper-touristy area if you want to rent surfboards (150–200k VND per hour).
The beach is beautiful, and the water is 30°C—great for a break on a long trip, especially since all transport goes through Da Nang.
Hoi An
45 minutes from Da Nang, so it’s easy to visit in a day, especially since the city isn’t that big and it’s *very* hot.
Cooking class: MS Hanh cooking class—great (the market tour is a bit useless). We don’t recommend the "basket boat" tour—it’s a bit sad on a big brown pond with elderly guides.
Ho Chi Minh City
Ben Thanh Market is a nightmare: starting prices are exorbitant, and the vendors are aggressive. Don’t go.
The War Remnants Museum can be really tough for kids.
Can Tho
Avoid this city. We made the mistake of going to see the floating market—don’t.
Chau Doc
No Grab in the city, but regular taxis.
One day is enough if you go early to the forest and the mountain in the late afternoon.
250k VND per person for the forest and its canals (45 minutes by motorbike)
The sunset at Victoria Nui Sam can be magnificent if the clouds cooperate.
Cheap and good restaurant: Quan Nem Nuong Sau Hiep
Hotel tip: Homestay Khoa (2,250,000 VND for 3 nights)—adorable hostess, full of tips, clean rooms.
The speedboat to Cambodia is more comfortable than a bus. Book with Hangchau a few days in advance—payment in cash on the day (1,640,000 đ).
CAMBODIA
General:
- Issues with the "Bakong Tourists" app—we had to go to a big bank to load money onto it. We barely used it afterward.
Phnom Penh
For us, a day and a half is enough if you want to spend more time elsewhere.
Markets close early (around 6 PM) and are less interesting than in Hanoi, for example.
The Royal Palace has a break from 11 AM to 2 PM, but there aren’t many people in the afternoon.
Siem Reap
Trip with Capitol company—the bus is basic but cheap. Departs at 10:15 AM, 7-hour ride.
Angkor entrance fee: 62 USD per person for a 3-day pass. Tickets are picked up at Angkor Enterprise.
Renting two 125cc motorbikes: 10 USD each, plus 7 USD for gas.
By bike, it took me 25 minutes to reach Angkor Wat’s pools. A basic city bike rental was 1 USD per hour.
Short circuit by motorbike (in reverse): 7 hours with stops everywhere.
Grand tour by tuk-tuk: Only 5 temples, 4.5 hours.
If you want to see lots of monkeys, they’re grouped west of Bayon.
For the temples, we asked Gemini (AI) at each stop to point out details that might interest kids (who can get bored with the repetition). It gave fun facts and things to look for—great for the little ones.
Hotel tip: The Five Senses, run by a Frenchman, Bruno, who knows Cambodia inside out and organizes tours.
Restaurant tip: Wild (only spring rolls, but *so* many varieties—delicious and cheap)
Watch out: 1 hour to the airport, 50 km from the city.
Show tip: The Phare Circus
Has anyone taken the bus recently, especially the Busda bus from Dongsi subway station to Mutianyu or the special tourist bus from Qianmen to Mutianyu? If so, I’d love to hear your feedback!
I’m traveling solo to China on September 18th and I’m completely overwhelmed by all the info out there.
This isn’t my first trip, but it’s still tough to make choices, so I’m open to outside perspectives.
This time, the plan is southern Kyushu with a slightly more off-the-beaten-path twist.
I’m not sure if you’ll be able to help since I’m skipping some of the classics in Kyushu, but you never know.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on whether this itinerary is realistic in terms of time spent in each place, travel time, and the overall pace of the road trip. Just to note, I already have my translated driver’s license.
Here’s the itinerary:
- **Day 1:** YAMAGA / overnight in Yamaga or Kumamoto
Depart from Osaka by train early in the morning to Kumamoto, pick up the rental car, then drive to Yamaga for a visit. Overnight in Yamaga or Kumamoto.
- **Days 2–4:** HITOYOSHI / overnight in Hitoyoshi
Drive to Hitoyoshi for 3 days and 3 nights, including a visit to the town, nearby waterfalls, a walk along the Kuma River, a tea producer visit, and some craft activities.
- **Day 5:** AYA / overnight in Miyazaki
Drive to Aya, visit the town, craft activities, the forest, and the suspension bridge.
- **Day 6:** AOSHIMA - NICHINAN COAST / overnight in Miyazaki
Udo Shrine + Aoshima + scenic drive along the coast.
- **Day 7:** MIYAKONOJO / overnight in Shibushi
Drive to a waterfall, then continue along the Nichinan Coast if there’s anything left to see, or visit Kojima Island.
- **Day 8:** SHIBUSHI
Walk around the port and along the Osumi Peninsula coast, maybe as far as the Kishira/Hetsuka coast, or visit a black pork producer, a market gardener, or a tea producer. Overnight at a farm?
- **Day 9:** KANOYA / overnight in Kagoshima
Visit Ogawara Waterfall, Nishiharadai Park, and Kannon Cave, then Sugawara Shrine, followed by the drive to Kagoshima.
- **Day 10:** KAGOSHIMA / overnight in Kagoshima
Explore the city + whisky distillery in Hioki.
- **Days 11–12:** KOSHIKISHIMA / 2 nights in Koshikishima
- **Day 13:** AKUNE OSHIMA / overnight in Akune
Ferry, then drive to Akune Oshima with a stop at Sendai Taki.
- **Days 14–15:** AMAKUSA / overnight in Amakusa
Drive via Nagashima and visit Shimoshima (Amakusa).
- **Day 16:** AMAKUSA / overnight in Fukuoka
Drive back toward Kumamoto with stops along the way, return the rental car, then take the train to Fukuoka.
- **Days 17–18:** FUKUOKA CITY / overnight in Fukuoka
Possible half-day excursion to Nokonoshima, Munakata, or Nanzoin.
Any thoughts or suggestions?
Too ambitious?
I could add an extra day but would prefer not to if it means less rushing around.
Hi everyone,
To simplify logistics, I'm considering renting a car for 5/6 days in the Japanese Alps before heading to Kyoto solo.
Is driving difficult or even risky in this region?
Thanks for your feedback!
Tara
We’re arriving as a group of three in Tokyo on Saturday, October 17th, then heading straight to Kyoto by direct train.
On Sunday and Monday, we’ll explore Kyoto, and in the evening, we’ll take a train to Osaka to spend the night.
On Tuesday, we’ll pick up a rental car at Itami Airport for a 6-day/5-night road trip around Shikoku:
- 2 nights in the Iya Valley
- Thursday morning, we’ll head to Matsuyama for 2 nights.
- Saturday, we’ll visit Mima (town, a few temples + overnight stay) and return on Sunday to drop off the car in Osaka.
We’ll leave very early on Monday the 26th by plane for Aomori in northern Honshu, where we’ll pick up another rental car at the airport for a 5-day/4-night trip:
- Day 1: Tsugaru Peninsula (Takayam Inari, Cape Tappi, Kanita); overnight in Kanita
- Day 2: Ferry transfer to the Mutsu Peninsula (cliffs, Lake Usori); overnight in Shimofuro
- Day 3: Head to the Hakkoda Mountains and onsens galore; overnight TBD
- Day 4: Return the car in Aomori by noon and explore the city before taking the train to Tokyo in the evening
We’ll spend Friday night in Tokyo, wander around on Saturday, and head home on Sunday.
Thoughts on the road feasibility of this trip? We’ll be there right in the middle of Koyo season, so it’ll be busy...
I know it’s a lot of driving, but there are two of us who can take turns. We’re not afraid of driving, even in the mountains and on the left side! Just wondering, are we going to be rushing, or is this manageable? AI says it’s all good, but it’s not the one driving...
Any tips for booking accommodations in the Iya Valley? Not many places have email addresses or websites (I know Booking.com exists, but not all listings are on there... and given the season, I think it’s better to book ahead!). Same question applies for northern Honshu.
For the rental car, I’m thinking of going with Alamo since at least it’s in French and straightforward, but are there any direct rental companies with user-friendly websites (Toyota Rentacar, ugh... 🏴☠️)?
Another question: With so many trains, is it even necessary to book them in advance? Can we just go to the ticket counter and grab seats on the spot?
For paying for the rental car, do we need a credit or debit card?
I saw there are several "authentic" villages about 90/100 km from Beijing.
Including: Lingshui, Liuliqu, Sangyu, Miaoying, and Cuandixia.
Has anyone visited any of them? I was thinking of choosing Cuandixia—what do you think?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone!
It seems there’s a flea market in Tianjin that’s way more interesting than the one in Beijing. I’ve been searching online but can’t find the right one… The one I’m looking for is called gu wan shi chang (my PC won’t display the Chinese characters…). Does anyone have the address and has anyone been there before? The one in Beijing has lost a lot of its charm over the past 10 years, so I wanted to find another. Thanks!
I’m looking for advice from seasoned travelers about a roughly one-month trip to Japan.
From late October to late November 2026.
We often travel in Southeast Asia but have never been to Japan.
Based on what I’ve read, I’d love to hear your thoughts on:
- Is traveling day-to-day, without booking hotels or trains in advance, possible in Japan?
(I’ve read many travel journals and blogs that say everything was booked way in advance… but that’s not how we usually travel.)
- Will the Japan Rail Pass be worth it for us?
(According to an old simulator, I’m looking at around 400 € for trains compared to 570 € for the JRP.)
Here’s our rough itinerary (which may change):
- Arrival Osaka: 3 nights with Nara
- Hiroshima and Miyajima Island: 3 nights
- Kurashiki or Naoshima: 2 nights
- Himeji: 1 night
- Kyoto: 4 nights
- Kanazawa: 2 nights
- Takayama and Shirakawa-go: 3 nights
- Around Mount Fuji: 3 nights
- Tokyo with Nikko: 6 nights (no theme parks)
Departure from Tokyo
I booked my trip from May 5 to 26, 2027. I’m starting to plan my itinerary and look for hotels (I know it’s early!). While I’ve found some in Seoul and Busan, I’m noticing that elsewhere—like Yeosu—most hotels aren’t available (on Booking.com, for example, almost all are unavailable). AI tells me not to worry because hotels in South Korea only open bookings 6 months in advance, so it’s normal to see most of them unavailable on booking sites.
Could you confirm this for me and, of course, reassure me (!)? Thanks so much.
philippe
We’re back from a one-month trip to China and wanted to share our itinerary. Hopefully, this can give future travelers some ideas for exploring this beautiful country.
Beijing → Temple of Heaven / Forbidden City
Jinshanling → Great Wall
Zhangjiajie → Tianmen Mountain and Heaven’s Gate
Wulingyuan → Avatar Mountains / sandstone pillars
Fenghuang → riverside houses
Ping’an → terraced rice fields
Tiantouzhai → village / rice terraces
Yangshuo → Li River / karst mountains
Shanghai → skyline with the Oriental Pearl Tower
Our travel journal is available on our travel journal, written day by day. You’ll find lots of photos and some travel tips there.
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung.
Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Hi there,
I’d like to do this cycling route over 2 or 3 days. I’m struggling to figure out and find a (good) bike rental that lets me start in Onomichi and drop off in Imabari. Can anyone help with great tips for rentals and accommodations along the route? How do I get back to Onomichi afterward?
I’m back with my detailed itinerary for 20 days in South Korea—it’s my first trip to the country. Our idea is to experience a more rural and cultural Korea. Here’s the rough plan: Seoul for 4 nights at the start and 1 night at the end, Gurye for 4 nights, Suncheon for 4 nights, Namhae for 4 nights, and Gyeongju for 2 nights. The goal is to pick a base and explore the surrounding areas. What do you think of this itinerary? Anything you’d change?
thanks
hi everyone, we're heading out for a 12-day trek in the Japanese Alps. We're bringing freeze-dried meals like we always do. We just found out that importing meat is banned, even freeze-dried. Is that true? We already bought them. They're commercially made freeze-dried meals. Online, it's not specified that they have to be "commercially made" because you can make your own freeze-dried food. And since we've heard they're really strict in Japan, can anyone confirm this for us? thanks
I haven’t found what I’m looking for despite my searches!
For a 15-day trip next spring, I’d like to buy a card (preferably an eSIM, but a physical SIM is fine too) that also lets me make calls in the country (to contact a hotel, a tourist spot, etc.).
You can easily find options just for data, but I haven’t come across any that include calls, texts, or even MMS.
Could you recommend something?
hi there
I’m planning a trip in September—here’s my rough itinerary. What do you think? Is it easy to rent a car to get around between my stops? Thanks so much!
Philippe
StopNightsFull daysSeoul44Gurye (Jirisan)43Suncheon43Namhae43Gyeongju21Seoul1—