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Feedback on Cape Town to Johannesburg itinerary (2nd trip) in 3 weeks
Hello everyone! It's been a year since I've been longing for South Africa. Our first trip in August 2025 amazed us, and—rarely—it was a unanimous hit with our little family! We were touched to the core, and from the moment we got home, we couldn’t stop talking about going back. 😄 I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who gave me advice on the itinerary for that first trip (Johannesburg loop: Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, St. Lucia, Durban, Drakensberg)! Thanks to you, our trip went like a dream! Since then, I haven’t stopped reading articles and discussions on VoyageForum to keep my head in South Africa a little longer! So, we finally caved and just booked our tickets for January 2027 (from the 3rd to the 26th), with a plan to do a road trip from Cape Town to Johannesburg in about 3 weeks. I’ve got a rough itinerary that seems great based on what I’ve read on various forums, but there are still some uncertain points, and that’s where I could use your advice.

3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM 4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing 5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?) 8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...) 9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?) 11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!) 13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure) 16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...) 18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP 21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!) 22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.

That’s my trip idea for now... I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments... Can’t wait to be back there again!
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Trip report: Our South Africa journey in July
Hi there,

We’re back from our 3-week trip to South Africa in July. It was a family trip with our four grown-up kids (ages 18 to 25).

First off, I’d like to thank everyone on this forum for their great tips—they really helped us plan this trip!

The trip: We spent 15 days between Port Elizabeth and Cape Town, then a week around Kruger (including Blyde River Canyon). We found South Africans to be welcoming and always ready to help. We never felt unsafe (just followed basic safety rules). The police are very visible, especially on the roads.

Logistics: We’d booked our accommodations in advance but made a few changes on the spot based on how we felt at the time. We rented two vehicles from Firefly (Hertz). No complaints—recent cars, quick returns, and the deposit wasn’t charged. We’d gotten our international driver’s permits... which stayed in France! Luckily, no one asked for them. Driving on the left wasn’t an issue (it wasn’t our first time). The roads we took were in good, even great, condition. Only a few tracks to lodges or parks were rough and required extra caution. Lots of pedestrians on the sides of roads, even highways. And plenty of very slow trucks. But they pull over to let you pass. It’s also common for cars to cross into the opposite lane to overtake, even with white lines. We took two domestic flights: one early in the morning (Johannesburg to Port Elizabeth) and one in the late afternoon (Cape Town to Johannesburg) to save time.

We had some highlights and a few disappointments—all part of the journey! More details coming soon.

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Your thoughts on my 14-day South Africa itinerary for a senior traveler
Hello, I’m taking advantage of the forum reopening to ask this question:

For her 70th birthday, my mom will receive—as a gift—a trip to South Africa at the end of May 2025. We’ll arrive and depart (13 nights later) from JNB on Air France AF990/AF995. We’ll obviously rent a car for certain parts of the trip. I’ve been to the Cape Town area and as far as Agulhas twice, but she’s never been to South Africa before. She might enjoy a day or two of safari, but it’s not a priority for her. I’m well aware that trying to pack in too much is risky, which is why I’m looking for your advice on itineraries, safety, and health (status of the Marburg virus). So far, which combinations of these visits (in no particular order) would be doable and most enjoyable for her at a reasonable pace:

1-day excursion to Pilanesberg Park (+ Hartbeespoort on the way back if possible), self-drive or with a tour guide? 2 nights around the Panorama Route self-driving Garden Route from/to George/PLZ for 5 nights (what are the must-sees for a first-timer with so little time?) Wine region for 2 nights (is it worth doing both the Stellenbosch bus tour and the Franschhoek Wine Tram the next day, or vice versa)—she loves good wine! Cape Town for 2 nights (is it worth stopping at the Cape of Good Hope if—only if—you’ve maybe already been to Agulhas?).

This would give a final itinerary like this:

Day 1: Morning arrival in JNB—rest day/to be defined Day 2: Guided game drive excursion to Pilanesberg Park Day 3: Flight JNB–Port Elizabeth, pick up rental car, drive to Tsitsikamma Day 4–6: Garden Route: activities to be defined Day 7: Transfer to Franschhoek: Wine Tram in the afternoon Day 8: Taxi to Stellenbosch for the Vine Hopper bus tour Day 9–11: Transfer to Cape Town: activities to be defined Day 12: Flight from Cape Town to Hoedspruit or Nelspruit Day 13: Visit the Panorama Route Day 14: Flight from Hoedspruit or Nelspruit to JNB, then evening flight back to France

Given the time spent on the Garden Route, what are the must-sees? Same question for the Panorama Route? In general, she prefers beautiful walks with incredible landscapes/views and cultural visits over big cats, but it would be a shame not to see some local wildlife like meerkats, whales (I doubt it in May), or penguins during her stay! There you go—feel free to critique (not too harshly, though😛)/advise/improve. Thanks in advance! 🙂
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Questions about the route between Kosy Bay and Kruger
Hi there. We’ll be in South Africa at the end of February ’26 with a rental car—not a 4x4. What’s the best route between Kosy Bay and the southern part of Kruger Park? Is the Mozambique route via Maputo a good option? What are the formalities for crossing into Mozambique? Is the Kosy Bay area worth a detour? We’ll be entering Kruger from the south for 4 days. Any recommendations for routes/campsites? Lower Sabie, Satara? Do we really need to book accommodations in Kruger in February? And what about safaris? Thanks for your input! Franz
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Questions for an off-the-beaten-path trip in South Africa
Hi there, Hope the pros are on the lookout!

March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.

Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.

Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).

Or,

A more classic route along the coast...

If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
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Circuit et traversée en voiture du parc Hluhluwe-Umfolozi (Afrique du Sud)
Bonjour à tous,

Nous sommes un couple et avons déjà réservé pour septembre 2020 un vol Nice- Johannesbourg et Le Cap-Nice par Qatar Airways (500 €).

J'ai commencé mes réservations (pour le Parc Kruger, plus de places à Skukuza, c'est incroyable ! du coup, j'ai du rajouter des jours à Satara et Lower Sabie mais pas dans les même bungalows ....)

Mon parcours serait :

1 nuit Dullstroom 2 nuits Graskop 2 nuits Satara 3 nuit Lower Sabie 2 nuits Swaziland (Mantega Lodge)

2 nuits PN Hluhluwe : je voudrais réserver 2 nuits au Mpila Camp mais nous n'aurons ni 4X4 ni SUV, juste une voiture compact (pas encore réservé) : pouvons nous quand même accéder au Camp ? et pourrons nous traverser le Parc avec cette voiture ?? (sur leur site, ils disent bien qu'un 4X4 serait préférable)

2 nuits Ste Lucia (si vous avez de bonnes adresses ..)

Vol Durban Le Cap

2 nuits Stellenbosh ou Franschhoek ? 5 nuits Camps Bay

Que pensez vous de mon circuit ?

Nous avons pensé peut être dormir plus longtemps à Ste Lucia et visiter le parc depuis cette destination mais 4 nuits, c'est peut être trop ? ou dormir en dehors du Parc ?

Ce parc vaut il vraiment le coup ? il y a aussi un autre Camp Hilltop, plus facile d'accès mais pas de très bonnes critiques ...

Je vous remercie beaucoup pour votre aide !

Bonne journée à tous Isabelle
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Your recommendations for the Eastern Cape
Hello,

We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:

D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.

For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.

I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
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Séjour en Afrique du Sud en juillet
Bonjour à tous,

Je suis en pleine préparation d'un voyage à 7 personnes pour juillet prochain ( 3 adultes et deux paires de jumeaux : 17/17/18/18).

J'ai peu de questions à ce jour vu que ça fait déjà plusieurs années que je lorgne sur cette destination et bave devant vos carnets.🙂

Je tiens tout d'abord à remercier tous ceux qui alimentent ce forum de leurs conseils et carnets riches et variés.Je ne cite personne pour ne pas en oublier.

Concernant le voyage, nous avons tenté de faire au mieux en tenant compte de nos aspirations, de notre budget et du peu de temps sur place.

Tous les vols et nuitées sont déjà bookés.

J1 : arrivée à midi au Cap J2/3/4 : Le Cap et sa région (nous logeons à Houtbay) J5: Vol vers Durban et nuit au Mpila camp J6/7/8:Nuits à Ste Lucia (excursion baleines au programme) J9:nuit à Tembe J10:route vers Kruger et nuit à l'entrée du Kruger J11/12/13:Kruger (nuits à Lower sabie/Satara et Talamati) J14: Départ du Kruger et nuit à Soweto J15: Vol retour à 18H00 (vélo à Soweto le matin)

Il a fallu faire des choix (zapper le Swaziland, l'essentiel de Blyde river ...)

Quelques questions en vrac:

-Pour Tembe, nous n'aurons pas de 4 roues motrices mais nous logeons dans le parc. Est-ce qu'il y a la possibilité au camp de se faire véhiculer jusqu'au Hyde si on le désire ? ou à certaines heures imposées?

-Pour la région du Cap , nous n'aurons que 3,5 jours sur place . La visite de Robben Island est au programme (c'est un incontournable pour deux enfants) et une journée sur la Péninsule. Reste à faire un choix dans les multiples autres activités (nage avec les otaries, Table moutain, Lions Head etc...) Pour certains les jardins de Kirstenbosh apparaissent incontournables.Ils valent le coup en Juillet ?

-Au Kruger, je vais réserver un morning walk : cela vous semble préférable à Lower Sabie ou Satara ?

Merci !

Pascale
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Avis itinéraire de 4 semaines en Afrique du Sud en septembre-octobre
Bonjour à tous 🙂

Après de nombreux voyages aux USA, nous nous sommes décidés pour un road-trip de quatre semaines à la découverte de l'Afrique du Sud en septembre-octobre 2020. Grâce aux conseils apportés sur ce forum et aux superbes carnets de voyage que je dévore depuis décembre ( Attila, Marati, Ticapi, Rouquine38, Montagnard74, Michel85200...) , j'ai réussi à définir nos envies et priorités 😎

Les vols sont réservés (532€ bagage soute inclus le multidestination NTE-JNB / CPT-NTE avec KLM)

J'ai déjà commencé les réservations des hébergements mais tous les logements sont annulables hormis au Kruger, pas mal de logements étaient déjà réservés donc je n'ai pas trainé pour réserver ! 😮

J'hésite entre deux itinéraires, un trajet Johannesburg-Durban puis boucle depuis le Cap ou une boucle Johannesburg-Johannesburg puis la même boucle depuis le Cap:

J1 vendredi 11/09 Vol Nantes-Johannesburg via Amsterdam (arrivée 21h20) (nuit Airport Tower Lodge ou Emerald Guesthouse à Kempton Park, car navette gratuite pour éviter d'avoir à conduire de nuit...)

J2 samedi 12/09 Johannesburg (retrait voiture de location, courses, achat glacière...) > Dullstroom > Lydenburg > Long Tom Pass > Sabie > Mac Mac falls > Pilgrim’s Rest ? > Graskop (nuit Graskop) (405km, 4h45)

J3 dimanche 13/09 Blyde River Canyon (Leopard Trail ou Tufa Trail, Bourke’s Luck Potholes, Lowveld View, Three Rondavels Viewpoint...) (nuit Graskop)

J4 lundi 14/09 Graskop > Abel Erasmus Pass > Kruger NP (nuit Olifants Camp) (228km, 3h20)

J5 mardi 15/09 Kruger NP (nuit Satara Camp)

J6 mercredi 16/09 Kruger NP (nuit Satara Camp)

J7 jeudi 17/09 Kruger NP (nuit Lower Sabie Camp )

J8 vendredi 18/09 Kruger NP (nuit Lower Sabie Camp)

J9 samedi 19/09 Kruger NP (nuit Airbnb Malelane)

J10 dimanche 20/09 Kruger NP > Swaziland via entrée Jeppe's Reef : Mlilwane Wildlife Sanctuary (Hippo Track) (nuit Mlilwane Wildlife Sanctuary) (252km, 4h05)

J11 lundi 21/09 Milwane > Hluhluwe–Imfolozi Park via Lavumisa et Memorial Gate (safari self-drive) (nuit Hilltop Camp) (286km, 4h)

J12 mardi 22/09 Hluhluwe–Imfolozi Park (safari self-drive) > St Lucia (nuit St Lucia) (60km, 1h depuis Nyalazi Gate)

J13 mercredi 23/09 Isimangaliso Wetland Park en self drive (partie Eastern Shore) + St Lucia Beach (nuit St Lucia)

J14 jeudi 24/09 Isimangaliso Wetland Park (Western Shore). Balade bateau sur l’estuaire de St Lucia en fin d’aprem (crocos, hippos…) (nuit St Lucia)

J15 vendredi 25/09 St Lucia > Drakensberg Royal Natal NP (nuit Ledges Retreat B&B) (484km, 6h25)

J16 samedi 26/09 Drakensberg : Royal Natal NP (rando Tugela Gorge) (nuit Ledges Retreat B&B)

J17 dimanche 27/09 Drakensberg (rando Royal Natal puis Giant Castle Game Reserve : Rainbow Gorge Hike (5,5km – 2h) (nuit Cathkin Park)

J18 lundi 28/09 Drakensberg (secteur central Monks Cowl, rando Blind Man’s Corner 8km AR, 3h, 500m D+) (nuit Cathkin Park)

J19 mardi 29/09 Cathkin Park > Durban (246km, 2h50). Vol vers Le Cap en fin d’aprem (vol Mango 17h40-19h55 45€) (nuit Airbnb Stellenbosch). Problème de l'arrivée nocturne du vol. Peut-on quand même rejoindre Stellenbosch depuis l'aéroport à cette heure là ??? sinon il y a un vol Kulula à 13h10 mais ça me paraît trop juste pour rejoindre l'aéroport de Durban depuis Cathkin Park, il faut arriver combien de temps avant le vol, 2h ?

J20 mercredi 30/09 Vignobles autour du Cap (Stellenbosch, Franschhoek, Hellshoogte Pass, Babylonstoren...) (nuit Airbnb Stellenbosch)

J21 jeudi 01/10 Vignoable et Petit Karoo (Franschhoek Pass > Montagu > Old English Fort 1899) (nuit Montagu) (274km, 3h15)

J22 vendredi 02/10 Petit Karoo (Montagu > Tradouw Pass > Barrydale > Ronnie’s Sex Shop > Ladismith > Sewewekkspooort et Towerkop Nature Reserve > Calitzdorp > Red Stone Hills ?) (nuit Airbnb Oudtshoorn)

J23 samedi 03/10 Petit Karoo (boucle avec Swartzberg Pass - Prince Albert - Meiringspoort Waterfall (mieux après-midi) - De Rust - Oudtshoorn élevageautruches) (nuit Airbnb Oudtshoorn)

J24 dimanche 04/10 Oudtshoorn > Robinson Pass > Swellendam > De Hoop Nature Reserve > Cap des Aiguilles (nuit Cap des Aiguilles) (313km, 3h40)

J25 lundi 05/10 Cap des Aiguilles > Hermanus (baleines) (nuit Hermanus)

J26 mardi 06/10 Hermanus > Route côtière 44 (Harold Porter Botanical Garden, Stony Point NR = colonie pinguoins…) > Muizenberg > Le Cap (nuit Airbnb Hout Bay)

J27 mercredi 07/10 Simon’s Town (pingouins de Boulder’s Beach), Cap Point, Cap de Bonne espérance, Chapman’s Peak Drive, Hout Bay (port pêche, sorties bateau phoques) (nuit Airbnb Hout Bay)

J28 jeudi 08/10 Le Cap : Visite ville (City Bowl coeur commerçant, Bo Kaap quartier musulman maisons colorées, Waterfront, + montée à Table Mountain (nuit Airbnb Hout Bay)

J29 vendredi 09/10 Le Cap : Robben Island, Montées à Signal Hill (en voiture) et Lions Head (à pied), Camps Bay en fin de journée (nuit Airbnb Hout Bay)

J30 samedi 10/10 Le Cap (jardins de Kirtenbosch, Groot Constantia) Vol retour vers la France le soir à 23h05

J31 dimanche 11/10 retour à Nantes à 17h30 ou

J11 lundi 21/09 Mlilwane > St Lucia (nuit St Lucia) (326km, 4h15)

J12 mardi 22/09 Isimangaliso Wetland Park en self drive (partie Eastern Shore) + St Lucia Beach (nuit St Lucia)

J13 mercredi 23/09 Isimangaliso Wetland Park (Western Shore). Balade bateau sur l’estuaire de St Lucia en fin d’aprem (crocos, hippos…) (nuit St Lucia)

J14 jeudi 24/09 St Lucia > Hluhluwe–Imfolozi Park (safari self-drive, entrée via Memorial Gate Hluhluwe, repas midi au Hiltop puis descente vers Mpila) (nuit Mipla Camp) (80km, 1h10 jusqu’à Memorial Gate puis 57km, 1h30 brut jusqu’au Mpila Camp). On ferait Hluhluwe–Imfolozi Park après St Lucia dans cette version de l'itinéraire, avec nuit en tente au Mpila plutôt que nuit au Hiltop

J15 vendredi 25/09 Mpila Camp (safari Self drive côté Imfolozi le matin) > Drakensberg Monks Cowl (nuit Cathkin Park) (393km, 5h20)

J16 samedi 26/09 Drakensberg (secteur central Monks Cowl, rando Blind Man’s Corner 8km AR, 3h, 500m D+) (nuit Cathkin Park)

J17 dimanche 27/09 Drakensberg (Giant Castle Game Reserve : Rainbow Gorge Hike (5,5km – 2h, puis rando Royal Natal) (nuit Ledges Retreat B&B)

J18 lundi 28/09 Drakensberg : Royal Natal NP (rando Tugela Gorge) (nuit Ledges Retreat B&B)

J19 mardi 29/09 Royal Natal Ledges Retreat > OR Tambo Aiport Johannesburg (345km, 3h35). Vol dans l'après-midi (Mango 16h20-18h30 ou 14h35-16h45, ou Kulula 15h25-17h35). Pensez-vous que c'est jouable en partant tôt de faire ce trajet et de prendre un vol à 14h35 ou 15h25 à Tambo, ça nous permettrait d'arriver de jour au Cap pour rejoindre Stellenbosch ?). Le sunset est à 18h47 et la nuit noire à 19h12 ce jour là donc le vol qui arrive à 18h30 est déjà trop tardif...

L'avantage de ce 2e itinéraire est d'éviter les frais d'abandon de la voiture, et d'avoir plus de choix de vols pour rejoindre Le Cap, mais il y a 1h de route en plus. Quelle route est la meilleure, la plus roulante, celle du Drakensberg à Durban ou celle du Drakensberg à Joburg ?

Merci d'avance aux spécialistes de la destination pour leurs retours et avis sur ces options possibles 🙂

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Our South Africa Trip Itinerary
Hi everyone, I’m reaching out today to gather some great tips for the second part of our trip to South Africa, which will take place from 03/21 to 04/11. We don’t want to rush too much either. We’ll start in Cape Town (tickets already booked) since it seems like a good time to visit this region—except for the whales in Hermanus, which we won’t be seeing. Oh, and I almost forgot, we’re renting a car for both legs of the trip for more freedom.

The first part is planned like this:

- 03/21: Arrival in Cape Town, staying until 03/24 - 03/25: Visit to the Cape, including a stop in Simon’s Town - 2 nights in Stellenbosch from 03/26 to 03/28 - 3 nights in Knysna to explore the area from 03/28 to 03/31 - 03/31: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Durban, where we’ll spend one night in Umhlanga

After that, I’m a bit lost 🙂. Next, I was thinking of doing:

2 nights in St. Lucia 2 nights in Eswatini 4 nights in Kruger Park (2 nights in Skukuza and 2 nights in Balule to visit a private reserve) 1 night at Blyde Canyon 1 night somewhere to get closer to Johannesburg (Graskop?) since we’ll need to return the car by around 11:00 AM on 04/11.

So, does the second part make sense or not? I’ve done quite a bit of research, but I’m still a little lost . We can’t wait to be there, and your valuable advice would be very welcome. Thanks so much in advance, and have a great day! Luis
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Traveling in South Africa: organized tour or DIY?
Hello,

I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
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Voyage Afrique du Sud en voiture en famille puis Swaziland et Le Cap
Bonjour a tous. Je suis en pleine organisation de mon futur voyage en Afrique du Sud pour 2 semaines a partir de mi juin. Nous sommes 5 personnes, ma femmes, moi et les enfants de 20ans, 15ans et 13ans. Programme : arrivée Johannesburg, location voiture direction blyde river pour 2 nuits puis parc national Kruger 4 jours ( quel sont les meilleurs camps ?) Puis Swaziland, et je pense aussi faire le cap pour quelques jours. Si vous avez des endroits à me proposer. Merci par avance.
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Summer trip to South Africa
Hello,

Happy 2025, filled with wonderful travels! 🙂

We’re traveling as a family to South Africa for the first time in July (two parents and our four young adult children). We’ve planned a loop starting from Port Elizabeth for 13 days, followed by another loop from Johannesburg with 2 days at Blyde River Canyon and 5 days in Kruger NP.

We’re wondering about the Port Elizabeth loop. Here’s our initial idea: Day 1: Early arrival in Port Elizabeth, morning walk in Tsitsikamma NP, night at Storm River Rest Camp. Day 2: Continue visiting Tsitsikamma NP early in the morning, then Robberg Nature Reserve, night at Ebb and Flow Rest Camp. Day 3: Visit the Wilderness area, night at Ebb and Flow Rest Camp. Day 4: Drive to Hermanus. Several options: Bontebok NP or The Hoop and Cape Agulhas; night in Hermanus. Day 5: Coastal trail, boat trip (?), night in Cape Town. Day 6: Table Mountain, Bo-Kaap, Waterfront; night in Cape Town. Day 7: Cape Peninsula, night in Cape Town. Day 8: Karoo Desert National Botanical Garden, Matjiesfontein; night in the area. Day 9: AM: Karoo NP; night in Beaufort West. Day 10: Karoo NP; night in Beaufort West. Day 11: AM: Camdeboo NP; night in Graaff-Reinet. Day 12: Morning: Camdeboo NP; drive to Addo Elephant NP; visit depending on arrival time; night at Addo Elephant Rest Camp. Day 13: Addo Elephant NP; night in Port Elizabeth. Day 14: Early flight.

Does this seem balanced and suitable for July? It’s quite packed, but we’ve already had to skip quite a bit. Initially, would it be better to spend 2 nights in Tsitsikamma and just one in Wilderness? Or just one night at each to free up a day for something else?

For the car, is a minivan enough, or should we plan at least an SUV for the parks given the season?

Thanks in advance for your feedback. Have a great evening
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4-Week Itinerary in South Africa
Hello, We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).

For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.

Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day

Flight to Cape Town

Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park

Flight back to Johannesburg

Johannesburg – 1 day

Return to Paris

Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.

We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.

I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.

Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
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Réservation au Shipandani Hide au Kruger sur SANParks
Bonjour,

L'un de vous sait-il comment réserver au Shipandani Hide au Kruger ?

Je ne trouve pas de solution on line sur San Park 😕

Par ailleurs pensez-vous que c'est une belle option pour une halte au Kruger, entre le Mozambique (Masingir dans le Limpopo) et le Botswana.

Je pensais prendre la nuit suivante au Masebe Lodge par exemple.

Merci d'avance 🙂
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Which camp should I book in Kruger National Park?
Hi everyone, For those who’ve been following me... progress is being made! Anyway, just to recap for the others: I’m leaving Manyeleti (a private reserve) to do a self-drive safari in the main Kruger Park for 2 nights before heading to Blyde River Canyon (sharing all this so you can picture the route). So Satara seemed like a good base for the safari, except that you can only book accommodation in this non-private park through Sandparks to find a camp. Since Satara is fully booked, the only ones with availability for my dates are: Tamboti, Olifants, and Satara—wait, no, Satara’s full—so Letaba, sorry! Any thoughts on these camps? Because I can enter via Orpen and drive north (safari-style), which would let us explore, but: 1/ Too many km if we pick the farthest one, Letaba? If I leave Manyeleti (Honeyguide Mantobeni) after the morning safari, what time do I need to be at the camp by?

It’s all coming together—I just need to pick the camp based on distance, so thanks to all of you for your invaluable help! Dan
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Safari itinerary in Kruger Park and surrounding areas
Hi everyone, I’m sharing the following itinerary for your experienced eyes 😏—I’m finalizing it for Kruger Park and two camps outside the park. We’re starting in the north, entering through Phalabowa Gate to head to Shingwedzi:

Shingwedzi Camp: 2 nights, sunrise drive Mopani Camp: 2 nights, morning walk and night drive Olifants Camp: 2 nights, morning walk Satara: 1 night, sunset drive Manyeleti Game Reserve: 1 night at Buffelshoek Lions Rock Luxury Tented Camp: 2 nights

Did I pick the right sunrise and sunset drives? Thanks in advance for your feedback and experiences! 😎
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Question about how Kruger Park works for accommodations and visits
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park. From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park: - Independently with your own vehicle => Do you drive all day? - By booking with a professional => Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?

When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?

To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
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Feedback on 2-week South Africa itinerary
Hi everyone,

It's official—I've got our flight tickets for next October! Two weeks with my 16-year-old son, aiming to see plenty of big animals and birds.

Thanks to all of you for the wealth of information on this site.

After going through a good chunk of the forum and travel journals about South Africa, I think my itinerary is ready...

I’ve planned 2 days with long drives to minimize time spent outside the parks. These are Sunday the 18th: Johannesburg Airport to Hluhluwe-Umfolozi Reserve, and Friday the 23rd: St. Lucia to Nelspruit (staying in South Africa) or as close as possible to visit the Canyon the next day.

I’d love to hear your thoughts on the itinerary, especially these 2 days—are they doable or not? Should I book in advance, or will there be places to sleep along the way if we don’t make it to our planned destination? What’s the crowd level in South Africa in October?

As for Kruger, I’ve chosen campsites with camping facilities, prioritizing the "satellite" camps, at least in the northern part!! I’ve planned to change camps almost every day to combine travel and wildlife spotting, but is this the right choice?

The itinerary:

Sunday 18th Arrival at 8:50 AM in Johannesburg Drive to Hluhluwe-Umfolozi Reserve 530 km, 7h20 1 night (18th–19th) at the northern gate

Monday 19th Hluhluwe-Umfolozi Reserve 1h30, 50 km 2nd night (19th–20th) southeast of the reserve

Tuesday 20th Hluhluwe-Umfolozi Reserve 3rd night (20th–21st) southeast of the reserve or Mpila

Wednesday 21st Reserve and drive to St. Lucia Drive to St. Lucia: 1h, 50 km Crocodile and hippo boat tour at 3 PM 4th night (21st–22nd) in St. Lucia Sugarloaf Campsites

Thursday 22nd Whale-watching tour 7–9 AM (or the next day) Cap Vidal, day trip: 70 km round trip 5th night (22nd–23rd) in St. Lucia Sugarloaf Campsites

Friday 23rd Drive to Nelspruit 541 km, 7h Night in Nelspruit 6th night (23rd–24th) in Graskop

Saturday 24th Blyde River Canyon 150 km, 2h + stops 7th night (24th–25th) at Blyde Canyon Forever Resort

Sunday 25th (Kruger Day 1) Leopard Trail hike: 3h Drive to Kruger, Phalaborwa Gate 136 km, 2h to the park entrance 75 km, 3h to Mopani - Tzende 8th night (25th–26th) Kruger 1: Tsendze

Monday 26th (Kruger Day 2) Drive to Balule: 84 km, 3h20 9th night (26th–27th) Kruger 2: Balule

Tuesday 27th (Kruger Day 3) Drive to Satara: 160 km, 6h25 10th night (27th–28th) Kruger 3: Satara

Wednesday 28th (Kruger Day 4) Kruger 11th night (28th–29th) Kruger 4: Satara

Thursday 29th (Kruger Day 5) Kruger 12th night (29th–30th) Kruger 5: Skukuza

Friday 30th (Kruger Day 6) Kruger 13th night (30th–31st) Kruger 6: Lower Sabi

Saturday 31st (Kruger Day 7) Kruger 14th night (31st–1st) Kruger 7: Berg-en-Dal

Sunday 31st Departure: flight at 9:15 PM (must be at the airport by 6 PM max) Morning in Kruger, then drive 400 km, 5h30—departure by 11 AM max

Thanks in advance for your feedback! Claude
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Accommodations in the Drakensberg
Hi there, We’re heading to South Africa for 17 days at the end of July/beginning of August with our two kids. We’re planning 4 days in the Drakensberg: 2 days at Royal Natal and two more to do the Sani Pass (but going through a local agency at Sani Lodge). We’ve rented a Toyota Corolla. Is that enough? Also, do you have any suggestions for accommodations in the area? Or other ideas for those 4 days? Thanks so much for your tips! Happy holidays! !
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Douze jours en Afrique du Sud... une première
Bonjour. Je suis un néophyte du continent africain. Avec mon épouse nous avon 15 jours de congés fin janvier. On ne savait pas Trop où partir et en voyant des prix interessants pour Johannesburg je me dis pourquoi pas .... Mais déjà le premier hic.., le temps j ai lu que c etait la saison des pluies et que ce n etait pas forcément la meilleur période...du coup si vous avez des expériences à cette période je suis tout ouie.

Du coup sur 12 jours, on se ferait tranquillement Johannesburg, Pretoria, le Kruger et éventuellement le pilansberg. On peut se deplacer en bus ou train ou faut il louer une voiture? D apres ce que j ai compris le parc kruger peut se faire en solo....ca se fait bien?

Merci à tous et joyeuses fêtes
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Deux petits enfants et un 4x4 avec tente sur le toit de Jo'bourg vers le Kruger
Bonjour, j'aimerais avoir quelques conseils d'optimisation d'itinéraires . Nous, grands parents et "voyageurs" (72-68 a) emmenons 2 petits enfants ( 13 et 9a), passionnés par la nature et les animaux , fils d'homme des bois et chasseurs à l'arc ! Nous arrivons à Johannesburg le 15 Mai 2020 et repartons de Joburg le 26 Mai. Nous louons à l'arrivée et pour tout le séjour un 4x4 avec 2 tentes sur le toit , nous dormirons donc dans des "emplacements"et seront autonomes pour la "cantine" . 12 jours de dispo. L'objectif premier est d'aller au Kruger park et d'y rester 5 ou 6 nuits. Mais quel circuit ? ensuite, pour les emplacements j'ai compris que je trouverais sur "sanpark" Il n'est pas gênant de changer de camp chaque soir, sachant qu'avec ce genre de véhicule, il faut tout de même replier la tente chaque jour pour se déplacer. Nous ne voulons pas faire des milliers de Km avec les enfants, donc nous n'irons pas jusqu'au cap ! Pour l'instant, je retiens comme autres spots, Blyde canyon et Swaziland . Si vous avez des idées conseils pour occuper au mieux mes 2 futurs "crocodiles dundee" ce serait avec grand plaisirs!
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Réservation de camping au Pilanesberg (Afrique du Sud)
Bonjour,

Je suis en train finaliser mes résa pour un voyage en AFS l'année prochaine et je souhaiterai savoir si l'un d'entre vous a déjà effectué une réservation pour un emplacement de camping à Manyane au Pilanesberg ?

J'ai réservé toutes les autres nuitées via le site SANPARK mais pour le Pilanesberg ce n'est évidemment pas possible.

J'ai trouvé 4 sites qui paraissent sérieux mais avant de donner des informations bancaires à l'un d'eux, je voudrais être sûr qu'il n'y a pas d'arnaque (piratage de carte bleue par exemple).

J'ai eu un contact avec https://pilanesbergnationalparks.com/pilanesberg-camping/ Quelqu'un a déjà réservé via ce site ?

Sinon il y a aussi : https://www.pilanesbergnationalpark.org/enquire/ http://www.manyaneresort.co.za/ http://www.goldenleopardresorts.co.za/manyane.php

Merci d'avance pour votre aide.
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What routes for Kruger?
Hi everyone again 🙂

I was thinking of continuing the questions from my first post, but since the title was changed... I’m starting a new thread

The plane should land on Saturday around 11 AM. After collecting luggage and the car, I think we’ll leave the airport between 1 and 2 PM. Question #1: Where should we stop along the way, allowing some buffer time so we don’t end up driving at night if the flight is delayed? (The idea isn’t to sightsee but just to take a break while making progress toward Kruger.)

We’ll spend part of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday (a little over 4 days) in Kruger. Questions #2 and beyond: What route should we take? I’ve considered two options: either enter from the south (Malelane Gate?) and head north up to the Olifants area to exit at Orpen Gate. How many accommodations should we book in this case, and where? Or enter at Orpen Gate and exit near Hazyview (or the other way around, and near Hazyview, should it be Paul Kruger Gate or Phabeni?). In this case, it would allow us to spend 2 nights in one place and 2 in another, but we’d skip the south (or is it possible to visit it in a day?) Well, for accommodations (accessible by sedan), all suggestions are welcome… but I’ve checked October availability, and there aren’t many left 😕 I plan to spend Thursday in the park and exit before it closes to sleep outside, which would save time the next day for the drive to the airport. I was thinking of Hazyview (again, no sightseeing since we already visited the area in 2009), but do you have another/better idea?

For clarity, here’s a summary of the Kruger part: Day 1: Arrival in Johannesburg and drive to ? Day 2: Enter Kruger (likely late morning or early afternoon) Days 3, 4, and 5: Kruger with exit at the end of Day 5 Day 6: Drive to the airport for the Cape Town and surrounds portion

Regarding Kruger bookings, it seems (I lost my old notes when my hard drive crashed—I backed up work documents but not vacation ones, what a mess!) that you can monitor reservations, and if a preferred accommodation becomes available, you can book it and cancel the old one. Is that still the case? (And is it easy to do?)

Thanks in advance for your answers. I’m off to reread travel journals about Cape Town and will probably be back with more questions (the accommodation availability issue seems less urgent there, so less of a priority).
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Feedback on 3-week South Africa itinerary
Hello everyone! We’re heading to South Africa this summer (August 11 to September 1) and I’m finalizing our itinerary. I’d love to get your thoughts on our route and specifically on two points: - The time spent at each stop: does any seem too short or too long? - The domestic flights: do you think they’re a good choice? (Flight from Kruger to Durban + Durban to Port Elizabeth) We’ll rent a car each time we land. Or is it better to do the whole trip by car? Thanks in advance to anyone who takes the time to take a look! Have a great day! !
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Le Lesotho et le Drakensberg en transport public (et à pied)
Pas de bon transport direct de Johannesburg au Lesotho, j'ai pris le bus Eldo Coaches pour Bloemfontein et il faut y passer la nuit vu l'heure de ce bus. Le matin, visite de Naval Hill puis aux taxi ranks, du attendre longtemps pour que le minibus se remplisse pour Maseru Bridge. Maseru Bridge, pas de queue, formalités rapides et je reçois un mois au lieu des 14 jours réglementaires. Marché 2,5 km a la Foothills Guesthouse dans un quartier agréable. Plus tard, marché au Pioneer Mall pour acheter une carte SIM Vodacom (ne pas trop compter sur le Wifi au Lesotho) et le supermarché Pick n Pay (la Foothills Guesthouse a une cuisine commune). Marché au bazar et minibus (fréquent) pour Motsekoua, et changement a autre minibus pour Malealea. Descendu du minibus au col Gates of Paradise et terminé les derniers kilomètres a pied. Malealea Lodge, très bien, pas cher, campagne authentique. Chorale locale le soir (ou bien beau coucher de soleil en haut de la colline a 10 minutes). Le lendemain belle journée de marche d'une journée en passant par la gorge de Pitseng, sauvage, luxuriante (il y a un saut de 1,5 km dans l'eau et 2 passages hors sentier dans le bush). Le matin il y a des minibus directs de Malealea a Maseru. Minibus pour Semonkong (pas fréquent, on peut attendre longtemps), belle route, par contre un peu déçu par le Semonkong Lodge (moins bien que Malealea). Autre marche d'une journée aux chutes de Maletsunyane (la descente au pied de la cascade est raide mais un guide est inutile). Revenu a Maseru, bus pour Butha Buthe puis minibus pour le Mamohase Rural Stay, in peu a l'écart de la route. Autre belle campagne, ballade. Logement très simple, bon repas. Minibus local pour Moteng, Peu de transports publics pour continuer. On peut faire du stop, mais continue a pied, col de Moteng sur la route puis l'ancien chemin plus court jusqu'après Oxbow. Camping sauvage. Au matin sur la crête qui domine Afriski et descendu a Afriski. Mini piste de neige artificielle, plutôt surréaliste, enclave sud africaine au Lesotho. Puis attendu le bus Maseru Mokhotlong. Mokhotlong beau paysage aussi. La Tsabi's GH est dans le centre, mais la Shoeshoe GH a 500 metres est mieux. Il y a un supermarché ShopRite et un restaurant correct, le Dinner 1010. Minibus pour Sani Pass (il va a Pietermaritzburg). Séjour au Backpackers, a mon avis mieux que le lodge lui meme, Pas cher, cuisine, chambres privées, au calme, terrasse abritée du vent (violent).

(A suivre)
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Which part of Kruger National Park to visit and where to stay?
Hi everyone, I’m in the middle of planning our trip/safari to Kruger in October: - 2 nights in the Manyeleti private reserve (Honeyguide Montobeni) - 2 nights in Kruger for a self-drive safari (which reserve, or where to stay?) - 1 night at Blyde River Canyon (where?) - 2 nights in the Balule private reserve (Imagine Africa Luxury) Then heading to CAPE TOWN. So as you’ve probably guessed, I’m not sure: - where to stay for the BRC and need lodge names - coming from Manyeleti and heading to the BRC, which strategic spot in greater Kruger to choose (I was thinking Satara, not too far) but couldn’t find any available places for October on Sandparc - and which domestic flight destination for Manyeleti from JNB (Hoedspruit?) to arrive at Orpen Gate, - And same question for which airport to fly out to Cape Town after Balule. Thanks for your quick help—I’m already behind schedule!!! Dan
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15 jours en road-trip dans la région du Cap en novembre 2020
Et voilà... Nous voilà repartis sur un nouveau voyage en perspective auquel on a pas pu résister. En effet, Qatar Airways avait lancé une offre de 10 000 billets gratuits (juste les taxes à payer) pour les soignants (je suis infirmière) On n’a hélas pas réussi à avoir un code promotionnel mais quelques semaines plus tard on a reçu un code promotionnel à 50% et on a saisi l opportunité. Sur le fil du rasoir, on a réussi à avoir deux billets aller retour et on s est décidé pour 15 jours dans la région du cap en Afrique du Sud du 16 au 30 novembre. Il y a évidemment un risque d annulation si COVID-19 mais les billets seront alors reportés. On part donc sur un road-trip en 4x4 avec matériel de camping pour alterner nuits en camping et hôtel. On va se concentrer sur la région du Sud et je suis donc preneuse de vos lumières... A vos stylos !!!
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