It’s been almost a month since we got back, and my head is still over there... Just like every time...
For my own sake, I know travel journals are useful for travelers planning a trip to a country. But selfishly, they’re also helpful for me—to put the final stone on each journey and revisit it from time to time, just for the memories...
So, this trip won’t be any different, and I invite you to follow along on our Andean adventure, from Lima to the Southern Lipez, from December 16, 2016, to January 14, 2017.
It’s a chronological journal because I don’t know how to approach it any other way. It doesn’t hold any absolute truths—just my experiences and feelings, which are obviously personal and not objective!
But if it inspires you to visit these magical countries (and I assume you’re already interested if you’re here) or gives you a couple of tips, then I’ll consider it a win!
So, let’s hit the road for the land of wide-open spaces!
Among other things, they don’t just mention fake taxis that rob you or express kidnappings (especially in Arequipa), but also drugs that can be slipped into your drink if left unattended, "with the risk of scopolamine being added."
They’ve marked the Cuzco region as a red zone (formally avoid!!) and central Lima as an orange zone, "to avoid after dark."
For our latest 3-week family trip (yes, the kids are growing up, and two of them are about to enter the working world), we’re heading to South America!
For our first time on this continent, I had planned a classic 3-week loop in Peru.
But since we won’t be returning to this part of the world anytime soon, I thought: why not follow in the footsteps of Franck, aka Bibouns51, who, in 18 days, didn’t just stick to Peru but also added two of the planet’s most stunning landscapes to his itinerary... the Salar de Uyuni in Bolivia and its neighbor, the fabulous Atacama Desert in northern Chile !!
So, I set about the tricky task of limiting the regions we’d visit in Peru to those we considered must-sees, to avoid rushing too much. The visit schedules were optimized, including several comfortable overnight buses that have the huge advantage of letting us hop between regions.
So, we’re off on a somewhat adventurous trip with three domestic flights (two on the first day and one on the last), two overnight buses for quick hops, several car rentals, the services of a few drivers to make the trip more comfortable, and even a tour operator for crossing the Salar...
Our main concern is altitude sickness, and we’re bringing Diamox, aspirin, etc., just in case.
Our second worry before departure was not even getting off the ground... Yes, for once, we’re leaving from France—Marseille, to be exact. The week before our departure, with the surprise air traffic controllers’ strike, I remembered why we usually prefer to leave from abroad, like Turin or Barcelona... In the end, it wasn’t the air traffic controllers who made us nervous but the early July wildfires that paralyzed the airport a few days before our departure. Fortunately, the fires were quickly brought under control, and on the big day, everything was smooth sailing!
Detailed itinerary (which changed on Day 1 due to departure hiccups):
Day 0: Flight Marseille - Madrid - Lima
PERU
Theoretical and abandoned Day 1: Flight Lima - Cuzco and visit Cuzco (Puka Pukara, Tambomachay, Cristo Blanco Observatory, Sacsayhuaman sunset) - Night in Cuzco
Day 2: Taxi -> Chinchero - Moray - Maras Salt Mines - Ollantaytambo - Train to Aguas Calientes
Day 3: Machu Picchu - Return train to Ollantaytambo
Day 4: 2-day taxi -> Pisac - Tipon - Andahuaylillas - Huaro - Night in San Pedro
Day 5: Palcoyo - Checacupe - Vinicunca - Return and night in Cuzco
Day 6: Day in Cuzco (catch-up on Sacsayhuaman, San Blas district, Temple of the Sun) - Overnight bus to Arequipa
Day 7: Rental car -> On the road to Colca Canyon, night in Cabanaconde
Day 8: Descent to the bottom of Colca Canyon, night at Oasis Sangalle
Day 9: Ascent from the canyon - Maca - Chivay - Return and night in Arequipa
Day 10: Visit Arequipa (Santa Catalina Convent, La Recoleta Church and Monastery, La Compañía Church, Cathedral) - Overnight bus to Puno
Day 11: Lake Titicaca - Night in Puno
BOLIVIA
Day 12: Shared taxi -> Road to La Paz, visit downtown La Paz - Night 1 in La Paz
Day 13: Moon Valley and Las Animas Valley - Night 2 in La Paz
Day 14: Day in La Paz - Night 3 in La Paz
Day 15: Flight to Uyuni - Day 1 of Salar de Uyuni tour - Night at the edge of the Salar
Day 16: Crossing the Lipez region and lagoons - Night near Laguna Colorada
Day 17: Sol de Mañana
CHILE
Day 17 cont.: Pre-booked transfer to SPDA - 4x4 rental - Pukara de Quitor - Stargazing tour - Night 1 in SPDA
Day 18: Death Valley and Moon Valley - Night 2 in SPDA
Day 19: Miscanti and Miniques Lagoons, Salar de Aguas Calientes and its Piedra Roja, Tebenquiche Lagoon and Quebrada del Diablo - Night 3 in SPDA
Day 20: Rainbow Valley and swim in the Puritama River - Night 4 in SPDA
Day 21: Tebenquiche Lagoon - Bus to Calama - Flight to Santiago
Day 22: Return Santiago - Madrid - Marseille
Day 0 - 11/07: Destination Lima
Our first flight from Marseille went smoothly to our Iberia layover in Madrid.
In Madrid, just after getting off the plane around 8 PM, and as we were walking through the terminal, we got a rude awakening!!
We saw the word "Cancelled" next to our flight number on the display boards. Thinking it must be a glitch, we checked another screen, but the system was stubborn, and the same dreaded word appeared !
So, we headed to the Iberia counter, where an agent confirmed that our Friday evening flight was canceled and rescheduled for the next morning. The reason? A breakdown and no replacement plane, even though we were in Madrid, Iberia’s home base!
To make matters worse, I remembered our super-tight schedule, planned to the minute, with no buffer day in Lima. Since I’m a bit phobic of megacities and hadn’t found anything appealing in the Peruvian capital in our guidebooks, we’d planned to leave Lima as soon as possible for Cusco, the heart of the Sacred Valley, to spend our first day there.
Bad idea, because we already knew the 4-hour buffer wouldn’t be enough, and we’d miss the domestic flight, which was, of course, non-refundable and non-changeable. So, we had to call LATAM from Madrid to find another flight for Saturday evening and negotiate a rate to recover some of our initial outlay.
After an hour on the phone with customer service, several endless holds, and three failed attempts to dictate our credit card number over the phone to a Spaniard speaking English with a thick accent, we finally managed to confirm the transaction, securing our new flight tickets for a moderate extra cost of just 150 € total.
At first, we were pretty bummed about losing a day and incurring extra fees to reschedule the domestic flight, but then, when we learned from an Iberia customer service rep that we’d receive the max compensation of 600 € per traveler, we even ended up grinning... because 3000 € in refunds for only losing the first day in Cusco? We’d sign up for that 10 times over!!
Iberia then took care of us, putting us up in a hotel where we had dinner before a short 5-hour night and an early morning departure. I took the opportunity to improvise a quick day of sightseeing in Lima, focusing on the Barranco and Miraflores districts.
Ours was supposed to happen in 2020. Everything was ready: the itinerary, the flight tickets, hotel reservations and Machu Picchu, the rental car, dreams of high altitudes and wide-open spaces. And then the world stopped.
Like so many other plans, our trip to Peru was put on hold. Disappointment was followed by a more concrete reality: paperwork, endless back-and-forth, and battles to recover some of the costs we’d already paid.
The years went by. Life moved on, with its shifting priorities and unexpected twists. Rescheduling this trip wasn’t possible until 2025.
The itinerary stayed mostly true to what we’d imagined five years earlier. One major difference, though—in 2020, we’d planned to rent a car and explore the roads completely independently. Most importantly, we hadn’t included the three-day Ausangate trek, due to lack of time.
For 2025, our plans evolved. 4x4 rental prices had skyrocketed, and when we looked at our schedule more closely, we realized quite a few days didn’t actually need a vehicle. So we made a different choice and opted for private drivers instead. A decision we never regretted. Always punctual, thoughtful, and available... they were so much more than just drivers.
All our reservations were made in January, except for the trek, which we booked in February.
Finding reliable drivers on our own was tough, so we asked Laurent from Tout Pérou to handle it for us. Going through Tout Pérou also gave us a discount on the train ride to Aguas Calientes, so Laurent booked those tickets too. He also bought our Machu Picchu entrance tickets at the same price we would’ve paid on the official website. When comparing domestic flight prices, we found it was cheaper to book from Peru, so Laurent took care of those as well.
This time, nothing was going to stop us. Peru was waiting. And we were ready. 🙂
The idea of traveling to Bolivia came to me after seeing Jean-François (Max68)’s photos on his website. I thought we *had* to see those stunning landscapes with the colorful lagoons for ourselves. But a self-drive trip didn’t seem doable at first. A few years ago, everyone advised against going to the South Lipez with just one car.
Laguna Kara
It was only after reading Laurent (Lolobe) and Pascal (Pepe874)’s travel journals—who explored the South Lipez solo with a car from Biz Rent a Car—that I thought we might be able to do the same. Meanwhile, we’d already contacted a local agency to organize a trip with a driver and guide. But the idea of a self-drive adventure really appealed to us. With encouragement and tips from Thierry (Tbernay) and Jean-François (Max68), we decided to plan our own self-drive trip. I’d like to thank them for their advice—it was *super* helpful. And a big thanks to all the other forum members for the info shared during our prep!
Laguna Colorada
Planning this trip happened during a tough time for our family. My mother-in-law’s illness and passing, plus a few health issues of my own, made us doubt the trip multiple times and nearly scrap the whole thing.
We booked our international flights in February with Swiss. They offered the best balance of travel time and price from Switzerland. Swiss operates Zurich–São Paulo with their own fleet, and São Paulo–Santa Cruz with GOL. In June, GOL canceled the Saturday flight and rebooked us on Sunday. Spending over 24 hours in that huge Brazilian city didn’t work for us at all, so we asked Swiss to put us on the next Zurich–São Paulo flight. Too bad—we lost a day in Bolivia and had to skip the Tarabucco market on Sunday.
Right after, we also booked the car in February. After contacting Imbex and Biz, we went with Biz. Not speaking Spanish, we were relieved to communicate with Alejandra in French. The contact was great—she answered all our questions patiently. Sometimes it took a few days to get a reply, but we could also reach her on WhatsApp. After our trip, we can *only* recommend Biz for rentals in Bolivia. The cars are well-prepped for the South Lipez tracks. The agency is reliable, and the vehicles are new and well-maintained.
“Our” car, a Toyota Hilux
While planning, we realized the presidential elections would happen while we were in Bolivia. The risk of *bloqueos* (roadblocks and protests) was very real. But in Bolivia, *bloqueos* seem common—you always have to account for that kind of hassle. In late August/early September, Uyuni and the Salar region were blocked for days, leading to food, fuel, and cash shortages. Worried about a blockade in Uyuni and missing the Salar, we decided to visit it first *just in case*.
On election day, the whole country shut down. Planes were grounded, buses and taxis couldn’t circulate, and private cars were banned. There were a few exceptions—ambulances, police, or certain professions—but as tourists, we couldn’t get permission to drive. We asked the embassy, and Biz even requested a permit from the electoral office. So we had to plan to be somewhere with things to do *without* the car.
We decided not to book any accommodations in advance—a first for us. Usually, we plan our stops and reserve lodges, hotels, or campgrounds well ahead. This time, only the room in Sucre was booked, so we’d have a base when we arrived.
In July, Alex (Delhenry) reached out to propose joining part of the trip. He didn’t realize we were leaving in October. Still, we got fresh updates when he returned from the South Lipez. Thanks, Alex—your tips, especially about the Guadalupe–Tupiza stretch, were *super* useful.
In September, we connected with Jean-Louis (Avx) and Anne (Xeta), who were also heading to Bolivia in October, one and two weeks after us. We had dinner with Jean-Louis and his friend after our South Lipez trip and stayed in touch with Anne. It was great to chat with them! Unfortunately, Anne and her husband had a much rockier trip—they got hit hard by post-election issues.
Climbing Volcán Tunupa
Our itinerary wasn’t set in stone—we decided to wing it on the spot. Two weeks before departure, I reconnected with Alejandra at Biz to move the car rental up by a day. With the elections, we wanted to leave Sucre ASAP and focus on the South Lipez. Outside Uyuni and Tupiza, the risk of blockades was zero. We also planned a two-night buffer in Sucre before our flights, just in case. It might sound overcautious, but in hindsight, we made the right call. If we’d left Sucre a day later, we wouldn’t have made it to Potosí—it was completely blocked. On the way back, we *just* dodged blockades in Potosí and elsewhere. Sometimes, you’ve gotta trust your gut.
Here’s our route—only the first two nights in Sucre were booked ahead:
D1 Departure from Switzerland
D2 Sucre (La Selenita)
D3 Sucre (La Selenita)
D4 Colchani (Hotel de Sal Luna Salada)
D5 Jirira (Auberge Doña Lupe)
D6 On the Salar (in the car)
D7 A few kilometers from Estancia Catal (in the car)
D8 Laguna Hedionda (Hotel Los Flamencos)
D9 Laguna Colorada (Lodge by the lagoon)
D10 Middle of nowhere, en route Laguna Verde–Mina Horsu–Quetena Chico (in the car)
D11 Quetena Chico (Lamphaya Lodge Andino)
D12 Quetena Chico (Lamphaya Lodge Andino)
D13 Guadalupe (Guest room at Celia’s)
D14 Along the Rio Grande (in the car)
D15 Tupiza (Hotel Mitru)
D16 Tupiza (Hotel Mitru)
D17 Sucre (La Selenita)
D18 Sucre (La Selenita)
D19 Santa Cruz (Hotel Sun)
D20 Departure from Santa Cruz
D21 Arrival in Switzerland
As you can see, we spent 13 nights in the South Lipez. Initially, we’d planned for nine, but Jean-François (Max68) suggested staying longer. Great advice—we didn’t regret it one bit. We could’ve even added 2–3 more days without getting bored.
Self-driving in the South Lipez takes some prep and a good GPS. We kept it simple and used maps.me to navigate. It’s a solid app—just save your waypoints ahead of time. For some stretches, I used Google Earth to visualize the tracks and sites. If you stick to the tour operator routes, you *almost* can’t get lost. But we often veered off the beaten path and took different routes. Some days, we didn’t see another car. So in case of a breakdown, it’s key to have water and food for several days. In some spots, there’s *zero* signal—your phone won’t work. Another must: it gets *cold* in the South Lipez, and a good sleeping bag is essential. We brought down sleeping bags rated for -10°C and didn’t regret it during our car nights.
The Dalí Desert
Some tracks are *super* rocky—flat tires are a real risk. On those stretches, maps.me’s estimated travel time was way off. Some sections barely let us go over 15 km/h.
Lots of forum members recommend doing the South Lipez “loop” from Tupiza to Uyuni—ending with the Salar—to avoid Uyuni’s crowds. That might work for organized tours, but for self-drive, the direction *doesn’t* matter. I’ll say this: the few vehicles we saw mostly came from Tupiza and Chile, not Uyuni. So if starting from Uyuni works better for you, go for it! Ending in Tupiza means heading toward warmer weather. For our planned stops and climbs, starting in Uyuni helped with acclimatization. Spending a few nights between 3,600–3,800 m before going over 4,000 m is a smart move.
Uyuni Salt Flats in the morning
Overall, we barely saw anyone—except at Laguna Hedionda and Chalviri. There were several tour groups at Hotel Los Flamencos (Laguna Hedionda), but we didn’t cross paths during the day. Hardly anyone on the Salar, on the roads, or at the lodges in the evenings. The *only* place that shocked us was Chalviri. We’d planned to stay there, but it was fully booked—and we counted *forty* tour jeeps on-site. This was around noon! At the Polques hot springs (Chalviri), it was *packed*—we quickly nixed the idea of a dip. Plus, the vibe wasn’t great: soaking right by the road with lodges and restaurants in the background? Meh. Still, lots of tourists love it, so it’s up to you.
For the photos, I kept the colors and mood we saw. The lagoons’ hues are often stunning, but some online photos are *way* over-edited and oversaturated. The South Lipez’s landscapes are breathtaking—no need for excessive retouching.
If you don’t want to read all the details, the start of the travel journal is here: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=9888761;a=9888761
When I set off for Bolivia, like many Europeans, I was full of illusions (fed by the propaganda of President Evo Morales, a would-be dictator with limited intelligence). I quickly became disillusioned—everything there seems to be built on lies: political disaster, ecological disaster, economic disaster despite drug trafficking and smuggling with China, dietary disaster, intellectual disaster... Its only saving grace is being a vast, sparsely populated country, so nature lovers can still find rich, relatively untouched landscapes far from human settlements (but for how long?)
Where humans dominate, the disaster worsens year by year: water, soil, and air are contaminated, meat is pumped full of hormones, GMOs are everywhere, fish are loaded with lead and mercury (thousands of tons of waste are dumped into Lake Titicaca on both the Bolivian and Peruvian sides), and the food is ultra-artificial (all the additives banned in Europe are abundant there). For example, out of 50 fruit yogurts, only two actually contain fruit... In short, don’t expect to go there for a health retreat.
As for its capital, even though you’ll see "wonderful" written everywhere, the city is ugly, extremely polluted, and not particularly interesting. But since few Bolivians leave Bolivia and the public education system is one of the dumbest in the world, they don’t care. A stupid law decreeing that taxes are only paid once construction is finished means thousands of buildings will never be completed... Anyway, you’ve probably gathered by now that it’s not worth wasting too much time there. If you decide to go to Bolivia, it’s best to know what you’re getting into...
So what should you do? A stop in Copacabana is pleasant, as is one in Tiwanaku. A stay in Samaipata is nice, and the cities of Sucre and Potosí still have charm. The Uyuni salt flats are also worth seeing. Venture off the beaten path, even if transportation is complicated and sometimes dangerous.
Don’t be surprised by the omnipresent police (many of whom are corrupt) and military, or by the almost daily protests... These are just some of Bolivia’s characteristics. But when you pass through quickly, you tend to see what you want to see.
On the gastronomy front, aside from the fact that in many places the food is a cocktail of pesticides, GMOs, heavy metals, and dangerous additives—all washed down with plenty of Coca-Cola—don’t expect refined cuisine... That said, like everywhere, you’ll find kind people (though relationships are often superficial) and stunning landscapes. There you go—just offering a different perspective from the dazzled accounts of tourists who only scratch the surface without understanding the harsh realities. And I haven’t even touched on the administrations, social disparities, the TIPNIS conflict, disappearances (girls for prostitution and boys for organ trafficking), etc...
I could have titled my travel journal like Carmen: "Some trips are born twice." Indeed, we had considered this destination back in February 2020. However, an honest tour operator advised us against traveling at that time due to the climate. So, we gave up and opted for Guatemala instead (see "On the Mayan Lands" on this site).
So, why this title? When I was in primary school, over 65 years ago, the illustrations in my history books (Machu Picchu) and geography books (Lake Titicaca) made me dream, and those images stayed in my mind. It took until 2026 to finally make this dream come true!
We prepared our trip with Tout Pérou, a French-speaking "agency." Everything was handled via email and WhatsApp exchanges with our contact: Laurent, who was both competent, friendly, and full of good advice.
For 200 €, Tout Pérou provided us with drivers and guides whenever we wanted, helped us buy our domestic flights (cheaper when purchased in Peru), booked shuttles between airports and hotels, and got us a discount on the train ride to Aguas Calientes, as well as on the buses between Chivay and Puno and between Puno and Cusco. In short, Laurent took care of all the logistics and the Machu Picchu tickets. It was up to us to book our hotels. Tout Pérou provided a list, but we weren’t obliged to follow it. Another advantage of the package: we didn’t have to pay in advance; we paid the service providers directly day by day.
We didn’t meet Laurent in person because he was on vacation in Europe. Before his departure, he gave us a briefing, provided a summary table with the entire program, the service providers, their phone numbers, their fees, the schedules, and gave us plenty of advice (money, exchange, safety, etc.). After returning at the end of our stay, he kept checking in on us.
Lastly, we had also gathered information from Arnaud Lagadec, who runs a hotel in Cusco and offers tours of the region. He gave us a lot of useful information. Another contact: Thomas Montaigne, very friendly, who runs an agency in Arequipa (Agence Pérou Exclusif).
Day 1 – Paris to Lima
Foreword
I’ll share our trip without any pretension—I don’t have the talent of some contributors on this forum—and I’ll illustrate it with a few photos (taken with an ordinary smartphone). My comments are personal and only reflect my own views. So, please be kind! Feel free to comment on my story as you like, but let’s avoid pointless debates.
Even though we live in the south of the Paris region, true to our habits when the flight is in the morning, we chose to spend the night before our departure in a hotel near CDG and parked our car in a parking lot in Garches. This way, we avoid the stress that often comes with traveling around Paris (accidents, roadworks, traffic jams, etc.).
Check-in and border control went smoothly on that Sunday morning. Our Air France flight was uneventful. In Lima, border control took a particularly long time, and for the first time, we didn’t get an entry visa stamped in our passports.
As planned, a driver took us to the Miraflores district, where our hotel was located. We were surprised by the numerous signs about possible tsunamis, having forgotten that Peru is prone to such events and regularly experiences earthquakes. We’d see the consequences of these during our journey.
Exhausted from the early wake-up, the 13-hour flight, and the 7-hour time difference, we had dinner at the hotel before a restful night.
Note that this day was Peru’s presidential election day. As a result, we weren’t served beer—the sale of alcohol was banned that Sunday.
Hi everyone,
After a lot of hesitation due to the season, I finally booked my tickets to Lima from June 30 to March 11—I’ll be crossing my fingers for the weather!
We’re planning the classic southern loop with a rental car, either the whole thing or part of it.
I’ve got a ton of questions:
Is it possible to drive to the Salinas y Aguada Blanca Reserve with our own vehicle?
Is the road to Cusco (the 34 E) in good condition?
Is it better to return via Andahuaylas, Pampachiri, Nazca? Or through Ayacucho toward Paracas?
I’m also hesitating about heading to the Cordillera Blanca and pushing on to Trujillo and Chan Chan because of the weather. The other option would be to spend a week or 10 days in northern Chile, which I think is amazing...
So, off we go on a somewhat adventurous trip with three domestic flights (two on the first day and one on the last day), two overnight bus rides to make short hops, several car rentals, the services of multiple drivers to improve travel comfort, and even a tour operator for crossing the Salar...
Hi,
Does anyone know how late the buses run from Cusco Airport to the city center? I land at 9:30 PM, plus time to clear customs, pick up my luggage, and exchange some money—figure an extra 30 to 45 minutes. Though, come to think of it, I still have 5 sols from last time—maybe that’ll be enough for the bus?
Thanks.
Brigitte
Hi,
I’d like to visit South America. I’ve always traveled solo and as a backpacker, but this time, I’d love to join a group or find a travel companion. I’m 63 and in great health. I speak fluent English. I’m open to other travel suggestions too. Thanks
I’m leaving in 1 month for 7 months in South America (mainly Argentina, with a quick stop in Chile and Bolivia). I still haven’t decided on:
👉 Travel insurance.
👉 The best bank card for abroad.
I’m a bit behind schedule and would really love your feedback:
👉 Which insurance do you recommend (reliability in case of trouble)?
👉 Which bank do you use while traveling to avoid fees (mainly in Argentina)? Boursorama?
👉 Any idea about fees with Western Union?
For now, I’m planning to bring as much cash as possible to avoid fees and exchange money locally. My bank (La Poste) gave me a Visa Premier for insurance/repatriation, but after reading the terms, I see it’s limited to 180 consecutive days—so 6 months, not 7.
Thanks in advance for your tips—it’ll help me make a decision quickly! :)
Next September (2025), we’re heading to Latin America as a family for a year, and we’re thinking of buying a vehicle (car, van, or camper) in Punta Arenas, Chile, to sell it later in Lima, Peru.
While I don’t think buying in Punta Arenas will be too complicated, I’m looking for info on border-crossing requirements (Chile-Argentina / Argentina-Chile / Chile-Bolivia, and Bolivia-Peru), as well as the steps and conditions for selling the vehicle in Peru.
Hi! I’m Romane and I’m passionate about mountain sports! !😎
I’ll be in Chile from March to the end of August and I’m looking for travel companions, especially to hit the mountains—whether it’s hiking, trekking, fast-hiking, ski mountaineering, or even mountain biking. I’d love to explore Chilean and Argentine Patagonia, the Carretera Austral, the Lake District to climb all the volcanoes, the Santiago area around Cajón del Maipo, and why not Peru or Bolivia—I’ve got tons of plans! 😛
Here’s what I’ve got with me:
- A pretty solid hardtail MTB
- Ski touring gear—crampons, ice axes, avalanche beacon, shovel, probe
- Bivouac/camping gear
- Trail and hiking equipment
If you’re up for exploring a part of the country with me, let me know! I’m open to any way of traveling: road trips, bikepacking, hitchhiking, buses, etc.
PS: I’m usually in decent shape, so unless you’re Kilian Jornet, we should be able to tackle some awesome outings together! 😛
Hi everyone!
I’m looking for 1 or more people to join a group with a local travel agency for a trip to Bolivia 🇧🇴 or Peru + Bolivia, around September 13–27, 2025 (I can adjust the dates a little).
The itinerary is already set or can be adapted based on preferences. Trekking, culture, Andean landscapes, Salar de Uyuni, and more. The agency needs a minimum number of participants to confirm the trip, so I’m looking for motivated people to share this adventure in a great atmosphere ✌️
✅ Profile: Easygoing, curious traveler who loves wide-open spaces.
🏕️ Style: Authentic, local, more about discovery than luxury.
👋 If you’re interested, I can share the itinerary and agency details via private message.
I’m currently on a motorcycle trip through South America. I’m riding a Honda XR 150L registered in Chile, which I bought in my name. I have my Chilean RUT and the *padrón* (vehicle registration) for the bike. I’m traveling solo and planning to visit the Salar de Uyuni, Cusco, and Machu Picchu before returning to Santiago in the next 60 days.
I tried crossing the border at Ollagüe, but I was denied entry into Bolivia even though I have all the necessary paperwork. The customs officers told me I needed to be a Chilean resident to enter with a Chilean-registered motorcycle, which I’m not (I only have the RUT).
I’m looking for:
-A more flexible alternative to cross into Bolivia (or even Argentina or Peru if necessary).
-Recent experiences from other travelers who entered Bolivia with a Chilean-registered motorcycle.
-Possible solutions (additional documents? international insurance? special visa or permit?).
I’m open to adjusting my itinerary, but I’d really like to continue the trip with my motorcycle. Thanks in advance for any help or advice! !
Alright, this year, we're heading back to South America!
The initial plan was to retrace the route we imagined in the summer of 2020: a trip to northern Argentina starting from Córdoba.
Unfortunately, the flight to Córdoba no longer exists, and airfares to Javier Milei’s country are both outrageously priced and involve multiple layovers.
So, I tweaked Google Flights every which way and finally found a flight within my budget—departing from Clermont-Ferrand!
Not to Argentina, though...
Our transatlantic flight will cross the snow-capped Andes, landing in Santiago, Chile, with a return from Lima!
In between, two domestic flights and a big road trip loop starting from the coastal city of Arica to explore the treasures of northern Chile.
Our mode of transport: a pseudo 4x4 that won’t take us through sand dunes or devilish tracks but will let us tackle the entire secondary network, including unpaved main roads, while still being insured.
Is the suitcase packed with all-season clothes?
Are the driver’s license and passport ready?
Bank cards and a few euros too?
Off we go for just over 3 weeks of southern wanderings!
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To keep all my esteemed readers on track, here are a few maps outlining the Arica-Arica loop!
1- From Arica to San Pedro de Atacama via Pica and the Salar de Huasco
2- Around San Pedro
3- From San Pedro to Cariquima
4- From Cariquima to Putre
5 - From Putre to Arica
Gas stations in this part of Chile are located in Arica, Iquique, Pozo Almonte, Pica, Calama, and San Pedro de Atacama.
Hi there,
I’m looking for advice on a semi-independent two-week trip to Peru. We’re not big fans of group tours and love exploring off the beaten path.
Is October a good time to avoid the crowds?
Thanks in advance for your tips! !
Hello everyone,
I'm just starting to plan a two-week trip I'd like to take with my wife in early May.
This trip would include the Atacama Desert, which I was lucky enough to visit alone once and would love to experience again with her.
But I'd like to add one or two other places to visit, keeping in mind that we're much more into nature than cities.
I was thinking about part of adjacent Bolivia... but since we'll have already seen quite a few stunning high-altitude lakes around Atacama, what would be some interesting and very different spots?
We would have loved to include Peru as well, but it might be tricky to combine in just two weeks.
I'll go through the many posts on this forum, but if any of you have some tempting ideas for this time of year (late April - early May), I'm all ears.
Thanks! :)
Hello, I’d like to take a trip for my 70th birthday this winter, but I’m looking for itineraries with a few days (1 or 2) at each stop to rest. I’ve recently had a stroke and, unfortunately, can’t travel the way I used to. So, I’m looking for itineraries that aren’t too demanding but still let me and my husband explore something new. We’ve traveled quite a bit before and would love to do one last trip (South America…). Thanks for your help!
I’m planning a journey of about 2500 km starting from San Pedro de Atacama (duration: max. 2 months). This trip, almost entirely on remote trails, promises to be an extraordinary adventure.
Highlights of the trip
- Crossing the Florido Desert (during the blooming season: October 15–30)
- Hiking ascents of legendary volcanoes:
- Ojos del Salado (6879 m)
- Llullaillaco (6739 m)
- Uturuncu (6008 m, with 5820 m reachable by mountain bike!)
- A 300 km stage through the heart of the desert, with no resupply or habitation: the ultimate experience of solitude and self-transcendence.
Practical details
- Daily distance: max. 100 km and 1000 m elevation gain per day
- Average altitude: 4000 m (between 3500 and 5000 m)
- Temperatures: ~15 °C during the day, down to -25 °C at night (in a tent)
- Accommodation: ~50% in villages (with locals or small hostels), ~50% camping
Estimated budget
- 1400 € for the flight ticket (including bike supplement)
- 1000 € for on-the-ground expenses
Required equipment
- Fatbike (essential for deep sand)
- -25 °C comfort sleeping bag
- Single-wheel trailer (indispensable for these tough terrains)
My experience
In 2022, I completed a similar 1200 km trip north of San Pedro de Atacama:
- Full crossing of the Salar de Uyuni (170 km)
- Ascents of the Ollague (5868 m) and Aucanquilcha (6176 m) volcanoes
- Two 200 km stages with no resupply or human presence
Videos available for a glimpse of the adventure:
- Atacama Crossing 2022 - Part 1
- Atacama Crossing 2022 - Part 2
Next steps
If this adventure interests you, I suggest:
1. A first phone call to get to know each other
2. A meet-up over a drink or a test ride in the Bardenas Reales (similar terrain, and I live 100 km away)
Don’t hesitate to contact me for more info or to discuss the details!
We're planning to trek in Peru and Bolivia and would love to find some local agencies.
If you know any, could you share details on prices and, of course, the names of the agencies?
Which trek would you recommend?
Elocine
A few friends and I are planning to explore the northern shore of Lake Titicaca, making stops using local buses or collectivos. The route starts in Huancane, passes through places like Moho and Conima (on the Peruvian side), then crosses the border and continues into Bolivia via spots like Escoma, Ancoraines, Achacachi, and Huarina. I can’t find any info on transportation between these towns. It also seems there are no listed hotels or other types of accommodations.
Personally, I’ve already visited several places on the southern shore of the lake.
Questions: Is this less touristy route along the northern shore—compared to the southern route via Unguyo and Copacabana—worth it? Are there buses that cover the northern shore in both Peru and Bolivia? What accommodations do you know of along this route? Alternatively, is it possible to rent a car in Puno to circle the entire lake, and which reliable agencies would you recommend? Thanks for your suggestions! 😉
I’m planning to take Air France from Paris to Trujillo with my 2 bikes in boxes. I have a layover in Lima and a change to LATAM Airlines for Trujillo.
On the way back, it’s Santa Cruz in Bolivia via Lima (LATAM Airlines) and then Air France to Paris. During the layovers in Lima, do I need to collect my luggage and the bike boxes and re-check them for the second flight? It’s really hard to get through to Air France for this kind of question.
CUSCO-LA PAZ FLIGHT
Hi, I’d like to fly from Cusco to LA PAZ (to save time… so I don’t want to deal with a canceled flight).
Any feedback on Avianca? (It’s the only direct flight I’ve found.)
Thanks
hi everyone, and so glad Voyage Forum is back up and running!
my partner and I, along with some friends, are planning a trip to Peru in May 2025.
I’ve got some questions about the Machu Picchu excursion.
we’re in our 60s and 70s, and while we’re pretty fit at European altitudes, I’m a bit worried about hiking above 2,500 m!
that’s why we didn’t hesitate to skip the 4-day Inca Trail trek.
but I’m wondering about the 2-day "short Inca Trail" offered by some agencies—basically one day of hiking with visits to a few sites, and the second day, the classic Machu Picchu visit.
has anyone done it? do you need to be in top shape?
thanks for your tips
This quick summary of our trip follows a project I posted on VF back in March 2016. I can answer more specific questions, but here I’m highlighting the points that seem most important. Generally, we started our days early (~7 AM or even earlier), had lunch on the go—often in the street—and dinner at somewhat rustic restaurants (< 100 Bs for two). The hotels (unbooked except for our arrival day in La Paz) had so-called "matrimonial" rooms with private bathrooms, usually costing 150–200 Bs or less.
We had a few cold sweats right off the bat: our debit cards only worked at the last ATM (out of 12!) at the airport… and the next day, our flight to Rurrenabaque was grounded, leaving us stranded for a day. We found decent lodging at Hotel Avenida. The following morning, our plane was finally fixed and crossed the Cordillera without issue. Our stay (5 days / 4 nights in the jungle & pampa) with Mashaquipe was great (our guide Domingo played a big part in that). Very interesting and a reliable agency. We saw quite a few animals, though spotting them in the jungle is tricky. In the savanna, though, it’s easier, and Mashaquipe seems to be one of the few agencies with a site in the pampa (near Santa Rosa).
We flew back to La Paz that evening and got lucky—within an hour, we caught a flight to Santa Cruz. The next morning, our first encounter with bus stations: Santa Cruz’s is huge, and we got a little lost. But we found a bus to San José. We visited the church in the late morning, then headed to the bus station, where schedules seemed random and buses only left in the late afternoon at best. We decided to walk to the outskirts of town toward San Rafael and try hitchhiking. It worked—every (rare) vehicle stopped, and we hopped into the first one heading to San Rafael. When we arrived, we gave the driver half the bus fare (~60 Bs). The next morning, we visited the church early and positioned ourselves at the village exit. A pickup truck quickly picked us up and took us to San Miguel (for free). Then, the same thing happened on the way to San Ignacio, but this time it was a *collectivo* that stopped. We arrived in San Ignacio in the early afternoon, but it was Saturday, and the church was closed. It was supposed to open… but never did. Since the *flota* bus left for Concepción around 7 PM, we took it without getting to visit. The next day, we toured the church and attended mass (++) with a choir and musicians. Then, we took a bus to San Javier, visited the church, and caught a *flota* back to Santa Cruz that evening. It might seem a little rushed, but we were lucky. Verdict: the churches are hidden gems in this somewhat off-the-beaten-path province (almost no tourists). We loved the last two the most, but the others were great too.
The next morning, we flew to Sucre, a beautiful city (though I didn’t connect with it), especially compared to the others, at a moderate altitude for the country… except for the central market, the Museum of Indigenous Art, and the San Felipe Neri convent. By chance, we ended up at *Le Petit Parisien*, a café two steps from the main square (65 c. estudiante). Christian, the owner, is originally from Paris and serves French food. His wife, Anna, is Bolivian and organizes visits to the Jal’qa community west of Sucre. You have to enjoy walking (~35 km in 2 days) and be okay with a *camione* (truck) ride and rustic lodging. We said yes for the next morning (cost: 600 Bs for two). A great memory, especially our night with a Quechua family who had just harvested corn… and the otherworldly landscapes.
Then, an overnight bus to Tupiza, where we checked out agencies for a 4-day loop through Sud Lípez and the salt flats, returning to Uyuni. We were really impressed by *Granero del Oro* (though there were only two of us), but we ultimately went with *Tupiza Tours*, the biggest agency, which had other clients so we could leave as a group of four (it was late June, and there weren’t many tourists yet; cost: 2,600 Bs for two). No regrets—this agency seemed solid, with a well-maintained vehicle and a serious driver (Freddy) who stopped whenever we asked. With our +5°C sleeping bags, we weren’t cold since the hotels (which the Bolivians call *basico*) provided blankets. The landscapes were mind-blowing in color, variety, and scale… even though the weather was pretty variable. We saw quite a few vicuñas.
In Uyuni, we took an overnight bus to La Paz, then another to Puno less than two hours later, arriving in the afternoon. That gave us time to head to the port to find lodging on Amantani. We avoided the street vendors and found an office run by locals from the island. We left the next day with an Italian couple and stayed two nights in Occopampa with a host family. Instead of returning via Taquile, we took a boat to Chifrón, then a bus to Juliaca, and from there to Cusco. The island was nice, and we did a lot of walking. At one point, we ran into a horde of tourists (and the second night, there was a dance with quite a few tourists… but also some locals, though I didn’t connect much). I got the impression the northern part of the island is less touristy… but you don’t get to choose your lodging.
In Cusco, we stayed at Suecia 2 (almost quiet, since it’s on the edge of the happy-hour bars and nightclubs) and across from the excellent restaurant *Victor Victoria*. On Sunday, we took a *collectivo* to the Chinchero market. It was touristy but still fun. There were great textile deals, but we were broke and couldn’t find an ATM. Some regrets… We met two young Spanish women and shared a taxi to Moray (we didn’t visit because you need the *boleto turistico*) and Salinas. The taxi dropped us off for an hour—it was nice, especially in the late afternoon. The next day, though, we were really disappointed by Pisac, which felt 100% touristy and New Age… we’d recommend avoiding it. On the way back from Pisac, we asked the bus to stop at Sacsayhuamán, which we explored a bit without a ticket before walking back down to Cusco. The city itself was nice but nothing extraordinary. We only got the *boleto religioso* (cathedral + Iglesia San Blas + San Cristóbal). The Inca Museum and Qorikancha were highlights.
We’d booked the Lares Trek + Machu Picchu (MP) over 4 days with *Sam Travel Perú*. There were five couples and two guides (Eddy & Julian). Great organization, great guides, and the food… no complaints. The landscapes were stunning… and no altitude issues (we’d acclimatized well with Lípez and Lake Titicaca) or breathing problems since we were in shape. That wasn’t the case for the other participants, but it wasn’t a problem since we had two guides, and on the last day, we split into two groups. We stopped in Aguas Calientes before Lares, then took a car and train to Aguas Calientes. On the guide’s advice, we decided to line up at 4:30 AM (there were already hundreds of people) for the bus to MP. At the top, Eddy guided us until 9 AM, then we explored on our own. At first, it was peaceful with clouds clinging to the peaks, but then it got crowded and hot. We escaped with two other couples to climb Wayna Picchu (it’s steep, but with dry weather, no problem). Still, I’d recommend being in shape for the trek and the climb to WP to really enjoy it. We returned to Cusco in the late afternoon, and the next morning, we flew (booked in advance) to La Paz, where we explored a bit (cable car, San Francisco, Calle Jaén…).
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Peru and have estimated how many days I’ll spend in each place.
Any advice on must-see sights and tourist traps to avoid?
September–October
5 days in Lima
Bus: 07:00→13:30 or 06:00 to 09:30 (express) (3 hr 30 min journey)
3 days in Paracas (beach)