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Bonjour,

Nous partons mon mari et moi en Suède pour 12 jours avec nos 2 enfants (2ans et 5 ans). Nous arrivons en premier lieu à Stockholm où nous passerons 3 jours puis nous louons une voiture pour le reste du séjour afin de voir un peu de pays. Nous avons prévu de faire 2 étapes, une est déjà prévue : la région de Dalécarlie. La seconde nous ne savons pas encore s’il est préférable de passer quelques jours sur la haute côte ou dans la région du Bohuslän dans le sud Ouest. On cherche des conseils pour nous aiguiller. Sachant qu’avec nos 2 petits nous ne pourrons pas faire de grandes randonnées. Mais nous sommes avides de beaux paysages, de coins typiques pour être dépaysés.

Merci par avance pour vos réponses.

Aude

EDITOR’S NOTE: As with every travel journal I publish, I won’t force anyone to agree with my comments—they’re my own, I share my feelings, and that’s it. Your comments are, of course, welcome, but I’ll refrain from responding to any hint of controversy, as has happened in the past.



For the summer holidays of 2018, we decided to take a break from long-haul, transcontinental trips. They’re expensive and exhausting, and this year, we also had to consider our young student’s limited vacation days. So, it was a short 14-day circuit in Scandinavia. Very quickly, I had to abandon the unrealistic idea of driving door-to-door with our personal car (unlike last year—see my "Balkan Stroll" story). Too many kilometers and stops. Still, crossing Poland, Lithuania, Estonia, and Latvia before taking a ferry from Tallinn to Helsinki and Finland was tempting—what a shame.



As usual, I planned ahead and started booking in early February for a mid-July departure, typically the best time weather-wise for this destination. Browsing tour operator catalogs didn’t offer much insight—just the usual circuits. Most aim for the North Cape, but we didn’t have time for that. First, via Expedia, we booked our flight tickets: Paris to Stockholm, Helsinki to Paris for the return (880 euros for three), plus a domestic flight from Oulu to Helsinki in Finland (220 euros). The unanimous advice was that there’s not much to see between the two cities, so this saved us a night’s accommodation and a day of car rental. However, the "drop-off" fees (not returning the car to the country of origin) were unavoidable. Out of 1,100 euros for 12 days of rental, this fee was significant—I say this from memory because I never received a detailed document or even the contract itself after picking up the car, despite my complaints. That said, Holiday Autos offered the best rates at the time with Hertz. Plus, I think we were unknowingly upgraded to a Volvo XC 40 T5 automatic, packed with electronics and an incredibly efficient GPS (so I lugged around my updated TomTom for nothing). I wasn’t used to it, and I’ll come back to that. For 50 euros, I also booked one of the many mandatory ferry crossings in Norway—unless you want to drive kilometers around the countless fjords. Specifically, the Bognes-Lødingen route to reach the Lofoten Islands, a must-see in Norway (though not necessarily the best choice I made—I’ll come back to that). Then, gradually via Booking.com, I reserved hotel accommodations, which wasn’t easy at reasonable prices. For three people, it’s nearly impossible to find a room with three real beds—often a sofa bed or even two separate rooms!!!! Norway isn’t a budget-friendly destination for us, yet French tourists are everywhere—groups or families traveling independently. Okay, you’re probably wondering when I’ll get started—I’m getting there... First up, Stockholm, a two-hour flight from Paris. A first for us: we’d gotten used to online check-in within 30 hours of the flight and sometimes printing our boarding passes. But, as progress never stops, at Roissy, we now also print our baggage tags at a kiosk, then place them on the conveyor belt ourselves, scan the barcode with the handheld scanner, and watch the luggage disappear—hoping it doesn’t get misrouted. With all this reduced staff, I hope ticket prices will drop. What? Huh? I’m naive... Okay, fine! Plus, during the flight, don’t expect any snacks—everything’s paid for now, except for water and coffee. I didn’t think I was on a low-cost flight!!! Picking up the car at Arlanda Airport went smoothly, except the contract signed on a tablet (progress, right?) was never emailed to me as promised—too bad... The Volvo SUV packed with electronics: as usual, aside from adjusting the mirrors and seat, I didn’t bother learning all the features and accessories for better handling. So, from the start, I felt jerky movements in the steering, independent of my control. The white-line detection was activated and corrected my direction whenever I got too close... And that’s not all—there’s also driving assistance. Besides the speed limiter, the car accelerates or brakes on its own based on the distance from the vehicle ahead. You still have to keep your hands on the wheel, though—too bad, we could’ve played cards and let it drive itself. When you slow down, if you signal to overtake and turn the wheel, it accelerates to pass. Soon, we won’t even need a driver’s license... Not to mention the little light in the side mirror to signal vehicles in the "blind spot"—very useful. But given the excessively strict speed limits in these parts, it’s still handy. I’ll unfortunately come back to this later!!!!!! In the end, we covered 4,700 km in 8 days of actual travel—no small feat!!!!!! Stockholm: still loyal to the hop-on-hop-off sightseeing buses (or the reverse), I booked our tickets online with a discount. It remains (for us) one of the best ways to visit and get around big cities. The tourist attractions aren’t that numerous. Forty kilometers from the airport, we reached our hotel, Clarion Amaranten. At reception, we were told our reservation was for four days, not two. I insisted, and they told me to call Booking.com to fix it—they couldn’t do anything themselves. Luckily, a nice blonde understood the situation and asked where we were from to lighten the mood. For me, it worked... After a few minutes of back-and-forth, we realized a namesake had booked at the same time. I think the intern got mixed up—oh well. We finally dropped off our bags and headed out under the sun for the included boat tour. It’s beautiful and relaxing under 26°C. We glided past massive cruise ships, very common in these Nordic countries, especially for fjord tours.



We passed Djurgården, one of the city’s 14 islands, home to the Tivoli amusement park and several museums, including the ABBA Museum and the Vasa Museum. I’m not talking about the crispy sandwiches sold since 1919 but the infamous warship that sank in the harbor on its maiden voyage in 1628 after sailing just a few hundred meters. Its intact hull was salvaged in 1961, and since then, it’s one of Sweden’s most visited museums. The country is a quarter smaller than France and has 10 million inhabitants, mostly in the three big cities (Stockholm, Gothenburg, Malmö). The rest is empty, filled with lakes and forests. The currency is the krona, with 1 euro worth about 10 SEK. Dinner in the Old Town consisted of a so-called Viking burger (more like a kebab) and meatballs—the famous Swedish meatballs with potatoes, just like at IKEA... I have to say, here, it seems the Vikings have long been just blond heads—I get it... It still cost us 550 SEK. A beer alone costs at least 9 euros!!!!

DAY 2. Sunny skies. After a hearty buffet breakfast with salmon, herring in all forms, eggs, cold cuts, bread, and pastries (don’t worry, the classics are there), we started the day by visiting the City Hall tower, famous for hosting the Nobel Prizes (except the Peace Prize, awarded in Oslo). At 106 meters tall, with 365 steps and 9 clocks, it weighs twice as much as the Eiffel Tower. Access is at fixed times in small groups for safety. You can climb up to 73 meters for a 360° view of the city. Next, we visited the Royal Palace, still the official residence of the King of Sweden, and its Treasury (entry: 160 SEK). We skipped the 12:15 PM changing of the guard—three-quarters of an hour before, dozens of onlookers were already crowding the front rows in the sun.



So, we took our favorite bus to rest a bit and tour the city. We also took the subway to see several "decorated" stations—love it or hate it, but it’s original. In the late afternoon, we returned to the Old Town and its Gamla Stan to find some souvenirs, even if it feels more like Bollywood than Viking country, complete with music in the shops—a nice sign of integration... One of the first things that surprised us was the very light car traffic—no traffic jams in this capital. But there are tons of electric and regular bikes, skateboards, and scooters. Also, lots of roadwork and housing construction—apparently a big need. For dinner (our only meal of the day), we treated ourselves to something local at Borgmästaren (Stora Nygatan 35). DECIDEDLY, I’M TELLING YOU EVERYTHING...

DAYS 3 & 4. Contrary to what I was told upon arrival, the hotel parking (700 SEK for 2 nights) didn’t open at 7:00 AM but at 9:00 AM on Saturday. After having to call myself (the French-speaking African receptionist couldn’t do it for me, especially after I told him I thought Croatia would win against France in the World Cup final), the kind parking attendant (partnered with the hotel—there’s the catch) arrived early and let us leave at 8:30 AM to start our east-to-west route to Norway and Oslo, 530 km away, finally beginning our summer adventure. At the border, absolutely no checks, and on the road, aside from lakes and forests, not much to see. However, tolls are very common—don’t overlook this in your budget. In Sweden, everything’s covered by the rental company, but not in other countries. In Norway, there are many automatic toll sections—cameras film your license plate and send you the bill later. So, you must register online at www.epcplc.com/rental, with or without your credit card details, and wait for the final bill. As of now, I haven’t received it, but after noting almost all of them, it should easily reach 200 euros. Roads, tunnels, and bridges are often toll-based to fund maintenance or new constructions. We reached the Norwegian capital at 3:00 PM and checked into our room. Small hiccup: the hotel parking, not reservable, was full on Saturday. Parking meters only take coins for a max of 2 hours. Luckily, tomorrow’s Sunday—free parking from 8:00 PM until Monday morning. After circling the neighborhood, I finally found a spot for my little car—even if it’s not mine, I still care about it...



The Thon Slottsparken Hotel is slightly off-center, but a little walking won’t hurt. The nearby Hertz agency was closed—too bad, I would’ve liked to complain about still not receiving my rental contract by email... With the nice weather, we started with a walking tour of the main sights: the palace, Karl Johans gate (the main street), and some souvenir shopping to fill the display cases back home—if there’s space. We also visited the deserted Akershus Fortress, where two poor young soldiers stood guard in the scorching sun. Below it, the World Cup final fan zone was being set up. Dinner was at Rorbua for 90 euros—ouch. Hard to find, tucked away from the harbor pier. We skipped the paid ascent of the city’s only "tower" with a panoramic view—tickets had to be paid by credit card, and given the fees my bank charges, I’d had enough. Note that card payments are widely accepted here, even for small amounts. When I tried to get change in cash for a 50-euro equivalent bill, some café owners were embarrassed.

DAY 4. After discussion, we planned the day: first up, one of Oslo’s must-sees, the Vigeland Sculpture Park, featuring bronze, granite, and cast-iron works by Gustav Vigeland (1869–1943). Given the distance, we took the tram—some cars still had their old-school charm!!!! Despite the early hour, hordes of Asian tourists were already there, making photo-taking a nightmare—same everywhere they go. The park is a matter of taste... The 17-meter monolith with 121 intertwined bodies is remarkable, and rightly so. Lazy, we took the tram again to save time—same name, tight schedule. I stopped by the Hertz agency, where the overwhelmed employee promised to try to help. Given his enthusiasm, I doubted it. From the start, I’ve really felt the welcome here, at least for French visitors, isn’t great. Remember my previous reports—it’s becoming a habit. Tourist brochures aren’t available in French here either—strange... Anyway, we took a relaxing fjord cruise. Besides the quirky opera house, the beautiful summer homes on the islands were really tempting. Next, with another paid boat, we headed to the Bygdøy peninsula and its museums. We skipped the Viking Ship Museum in favor of the Norwegian Folk Museum. It features different buildings from across the country, by era and region. Unfortunately, few actors in period costumes—common in this type of tourist attraction. Its real highlight is the stave church, very beautiful. On this late Sunday afternoon, bars and restaurants competed to become World Cup 2018 fan zones—crowds everywhere. So, we decided to head back to rest and catch a glimpse of the African French team against Croatia. It’ll go down in history: a 4-2 victory, with a beautiful goal by Lloris... Go "Les Bleus"—I get it...

DAY 5. Oslo to Bergen: 450 km, but with detours, it was nearly 550. The real journey begins. Departure at 7:00 AM after sleeping in and a mediocre breakfast. Arrival at 5:00 PM—yes, driving’s slow... More tolls, but under 26°C, the real beauty starts around Geilo. First real fjord—it’s stunning. Then those houses with vegetated roofs blending perfectly into the landscape, sometimes nearly invisible... (Not bad, right? And it’s all me!!!)



We also discovered tunnels with "indoor roundabouts" and underground roads crossing—never seen that before!! We followed the shores of Lake Tyrifjord and the Hallingdal valleys. After Geilo, views of the Hardangerjøkulen glacier (achoo!) and the Vøringfossen waterfall (Norway’s highest at 163 meters) and Steinsdalsfossen in the Hardangerfjord (the country’s second-longest). Bergen, Norway’s second city, is built between seven mountains. Aside from the colorful old docks along the wharf, there’s not much to see. At the market, stalls of fresh fish, jars of various fish eggs (all called "caviar" here), and cold cuts made from reindeer, moose, and whale.



For 10 euros per person, we queued for the steep funicular for a great view of the city. Dinner was at "Fish Me," very busy. The salmon looked appetizing, and my first whale steak for 27 euros was... interesting. Our hotel, Augustin, is near the center. They charged me 150 NOK to park in the nearby public lot...

DAY 6. Bøverdalen, our evening stop, was less than 300 km away, but along the way, we had our first two scenic routes and first ferry crossing. When I got back in the car, I noticed the seagulls—rightful tenants of the harbor—had turned it into a Picasso painting overnight... First stop in Voss to peek inside its Vangskyrkja church (for a fee). The mural icons all have a marked squint, making the angels on the ceiling smile—quite the original touch. In 1277, it shocked people.



Gudvangen at the end of the Nærøyfjord offers beautiful views and a waterfall. An 11 km tunnel took us to Aurland and the Sognefjord, the king of fjords at 180 km long. Then we took Route 243 to Lærdal instead of a second long tunnel. A 47 km very narrow road with no passing except in designated spots. Buses, RVs, and trailers were in the mix—between backing up and moving forward, how do you expect me to... pass? At some spots, I had to "burn some oil" (non-edible). The beautiful viewpoints along Jotunheimen Park and its high peaks were hard-earned.



By midday, the 26°C of previous days gave way to 11°C with downpours and gusts. To reach Kaupanger, its stave church, and Route 55 (108 km), we took the Fodnes-Mannheller ferry for 119 kr (about 13 euros) for a 20-minute crossing. For these short trips, rotations are frequent, and wait times are short. The Sognefjellet route took us along lakes and snow-capped peaks—too bad the weather wasn’t cooperating. In Bøverdalen, in the middle of nowhere, we reached the Elveseter Hotel, the only one in the area, and it was packed. Luckily, it’s big. Recent reviews had us a bit worried, but personally, all the well-maintained wooden buildings gave the place charm. Our two small, simple rooms had character, and the common areas’ decor was interesting—a pile of antiques... Unless you dine on-site (reservations required for one of two sittings), the only option is to drive 20 km to Lom to see its beautiful stave church—but we didn’t go in (7 euros per person, and that’s enough). Dinner was three pizzas for 70 euros—yes, it’s expensive here.



Note that in most establishments, bars, or restaurants, you have to order and pay at the counter yourself. A *stavkirke* or *stavkyrkje* (in Norwegian Bokmål and Nynorsk) is a medieval wooden church typical of Norway, though excavations suggest similar churches may have existed elsewhere in Northern Europe. About 1,300 medieval churches were recorded, with 28 preserved in Norway. In French, they’re called "églises en bois debout" (standing wood churches) because masts or posts support the roof and nave elevation, as well as the walls. The stave church is one of the most elaborate and technically advanced types of wooden construction in Northwestern Europe during the Middle Ages. This technique is represented by the Urnes Stave Church (a UNESCO World Heritage Site), Borgund (the best-preserved in its medieval form), and 25 others—from the largest, Heddal, to the smallest, Undredal, in the stunning Sognefjord, plus a few others in Northwestern Europe.

DAY 7. Heading to Trondheim—supposedly 320 km, but with detours, it was nearly 550. Unpredictable weather until about 1:00 PM, but it’s better because it’s the day of the "triples": 3 scenic routes, 3 ferries, and 3 "underwater" tunnels. No rush—here, there’s no need to "hurry to arrive before night" because as you head north, the sun lingers and sets less and less, eventually not setting at all. First, in Grotli, we took the 27 km of Route 258, *Gamle Strynefjellsvegen* (achoo), also very narrow and unpaved in the first section. Luckily, campers and RVs aren’t early risers—otherwise, I’d have had to make not just oil but olives this time. We only passed four other users. However, despite the early hour, local road workers were already on the job, and we had to ask the excavators to move several times to let us pass. At Langvatnet, we joined Route 63, called the Eagle Road here—mediocre, except for Geiranger at the end of the narrowest fjord in the country. A cruise ship had just unloaded its passengers, who rushed into the few shops. After the Eidsdal-Linge ferry (10 minutes) and Gudbrandsjuvet with its waterfalls, we tackled the famous Trollstigen (Troll’s Path), winding and very touristy. Coming from the south, we descended it. Mandatory photo stop at the tourist center and its impressive walkway. The descent into the valley was tough—the bus driver ahead of us must’ve been disabled, blind, and quadriplegic, taking two tries at every hairpin turn, causing a traffic jam behind and for those "going up" waiting at passing spots!!!



On Route 64, we took the Åfarnes-Solnes ferry instead of the initially planned 660 because my young passenger insisted on part of the "Atlantic Road." From what we’d read on blogs, only the last 11 km are spectacular, with arched bridges connecting islets. So, in Molde, we headed to Eide, then Vevang—beautiful but nothing more. The rain spoiled the scenery. Quick photo stop in Kristiansund, then a long underwater tunnel and the Kanestraum-Halsa ferry (7 km, 20 minutes) to reach the E39 toward Trondheim.



We all agreed that all these wooden houses and churches reminded us of the U.S. in their architecture—especially since, like there, a flagpole with the national flag often stands in front of homes. Trondheim, Norway’s third city, doesn’t have much to see. A university town in the country’s center, aside from its Nidaros Cathedral (closed when we arrived late), its wooden bridge, and colorful old docks on pilings—nothing else. Even finding food was complicated. As for accommodation, Booking.com had forgotten to mention that the Nidaros Pilgrimsgard is a "pilgrim hostel" on the Camino de Santiago. Monastic atmosphere and spartan rooms for reflection—same for the frugal breakfast in silence... Anyway... Luckily, the night before, in a kitschy place run by hip youngsters, I’d stocked up on a hearty assortment of marinated herring with aquavit that burned the rest of my esophagus. (BAKLANDET SKYDSSTATION) I’m really doing all the work for you...

DAY 8. Heading to Mo i Rana—633 km actually covered instead of the planned 480 through Nord-Trøndelag!!! After Steinkjer and its fjord, we decided to take Route 763, parallel to the E6, for less traffic and to see pretty mountain villages. We also stopped in Bola to see a petroglyph (Stone Age rock carving) of a reindeer. After Medja, we skipped Kjerringfoss and Europe’s largest salmon ladder (paid access). Instead, via the Holm-Vennesund ferry, we took a bit of the scenic Route 17 before reaching Mosjøen and Mo i Rana (too many ferries if you do the whole route). Along the way, we saw reindeer and moose relaxing on the road several times. Mo i Rana is small. The Ole Tobias Hotel was packed, and parking was complicated. For dinner, we crossed the street to "No. 3," the only option. Two spicy bacalao and a whale steak cost us 90 euros... At this rate, I had to find an ATM to finish the Norwegian stay properly. The 2,000 euros exchanged before leaving (at 9.28) were already partially gone. Cigarettes cost 13 euros a pack here—twice as much as in Sweden—while unleaded gas is 1.85 euros per liter.

DAY 9. Heading to the main event of the trip: the Lofoten Islands. First programming mistake: not studying the subject well, I preferred a shorter ferry crossing from further north on the mainland. But that also meant arriving further north on the islands.



I booked for 50 euros (vehicle, driver, and two passengers included on the official Torghatten Nord site) for Bognes-Lødingen—a one-hour crossing. I should’ve left from Bodø to Leknes or better yet Moskenes and the town of Å for three hours—it would’ve saved time by avoiding the drive north and crossing to the south before heading back up the islands. Luckily, we still managed two different routes. Fortunately, the great weather returned, and I have to say, IT’S REALLY, REALLY, REALLY... BEAUTIFUL... Memory cards are melting—not just from the heat.



Two things worked in our favor, if I may say so, and countered my little blunder: first, I’d booked the 2:30 PM ferry, but arriving at the departure at noon, we easily took the earlier one—two hours saved. With the longer crossings, rotations with only two boats are much less frequent (8 to 12 per day depending on the season, vs. 6 to 8 for the southern route). Second, after Mo i Rana, we crossed the Arctic Circle, and today, the sun only "sets" from 12:20 AM to 1:50 AM. What luck! With a 7:40 AM departure (after sleeping in), I could drive until 11:00 PM easy!!!!!! And cover only 740 km!!!!!! Here, winters don’t drop below zero, but from early November to late January, it’s night almost all the time, with a supposed daylight clarity from 10:00 AM to 2:00 PM like a rainy day back home. But apparently, the northern lights and reflections on the snow also provide light!! I’d love to see that, but I’ll have to come back... We crisscrossed everything humanly possible, sometimes stopping abruptly in the middle of the road for photos—much to the locals’ dismay, but they’re used to the madness of temporary invaders enchanted by the place... These steep mountains "falling" into the water with all those colorful "rorbu" villages are magnificent. Rorbu are traditional fishermen’s cabins on stilts by the water, which over time have become the must-stay accommodation here—many have never housed any fishermen!!! The villages follow one after another, each more beautiful than the last. In Nusfjord, in season, pedestrians are even charged an access fee between 10:00 AM and 6:00 PM. At 7:00 PM, the booth was closed—lucky us, no crowd. The ochre wooden facades are beautiful, but don’t get too close—the seagulls nest there and see any approach as aggression. The result? Bomb-like droppings that can leave unpleasant memories. Go peek inside the grocery store—it’s kept its old-world charm. With the season, the many cod drying racks are empty. The hour turned, and our southward journey stopped in Reine—too bad for Å, not far, but fatigue got the better of me. We had to "go back up" to Kabelvåg for our rorbu at Nyvågar. We’d stocked up on groceries to eat quietly in this cozy little place (very small single beds upstairs).

DAY 10. We headed back north on the islands to reach Tromsø (grandiosely nicknamed the "Paris of the North"), with a late 7:50 AM departure despite 450 km to cover—things are getting lax at the end of the trip!!! However, this stop didn’t reveal much of interest—it’s the lake region, but meh. Tour operators include it as the last stop toward the far north. Aside from the Målselvfossen waterfall and its (paid) salmon ladder, nothing to report. We arrived at 3:00 PM, and the second room in our Quality Saga Hotel wasn’t ready yet. Plus, the parking we’d requested wasn’t accessible—the eight spots were taken. Even in this small town, free and easy parking is rare. Two souvenir shops and a main street (Storgata)—that’s it. Not to mention a nice storm that cooled things down. The only curiosity is the church, but it’s closed and under renovation—the exterior scaffolding ruins the only photo opportunity here. Otherwise, the Arctic Cathedral is visible from afar—that’s enough for us. The sun only sets for 20 minutes, from 12:40 AM to 1:00 AM!!!!! Last note before leaving this country: every morning at the breakfast buffet with all those eggs, I asked for a Norwegian omelet. Believe it or not, they don’t know the recipe for a Norwegian omelet!!!! 😏😛😉

DAY 11. Heading to Finland (with an extra hour time difference) and Rovaniemi, self-proclaimed official Santa Claus Village—it’s not nice to play on kids’ heartstrings for money!!!! On the 400 km of road (that or avoiding the Lofoten), nothing to see except two sad "Sami" shops. But there’s also AND ESPECIALLY: The run-in with a police radar mounted on the dashboard to welcome me to this country: alone, on a straight, flat road in the middle of the forest, I had this privilege—especially at a spot limited to 80 km/h instead of 100 as I thought. Of course, most well-meaning readers will think: serves him right... Only here’s the thing: in Finland, for years, speeding fines depend on the "Päiväsakko," meaning based on your income and number of children, a subtle calculation of average daily money is made and multiplied proportionally to the estimated severity of the offense... Ignorant of this, I naively but honestly answered the questions. The result? The fine was enormous—I won’t say the amount out of shame, but especially out of hatred for this country that ruined my vacation. Others like me, potential murderers, have been fined up to 170,000 euros (I wrote ONE HUNDRED SEVENTY THOUSAND EUROS) for a 40 km/h speeding offense!!!! I hope the clowns running France quickly adopt this particularly SOCIAL measure. Let the lazy and parasites of the country freely enjoy the road in their BMWs and MERCs!!! Let me tell you, I’ll spend my savings elsewhere in the future. So, a tip: be as dishonest as these conscientious police—say you’re unemployed with five kids, and maybe they’ll give you money!!!!! I’m really disgusted. No wonder in this nothing-to-see town, drivers sheepishly drive in a "little train" at 40 behind an RV without anyone daring to overtake. I think sometimes human stupidity should have limits, and the word freedom should regain its meaning!!! To those who understand, cheers. And as written at the start: trolls, abstain. I stand by what I said and sign it. After this brutal introduction to Finnish discriminatory laws, you can imagine Rovaniemi and its two-bit Santa Claus—I couldn’t care less. Even under the storm, at 6:00 PM on Sunday, even in summer, the scammer shops and profiteers of the Santa Claus Village (conveniently located on the Arctic Circle...) were already closed. Good riddance!!! The Arctic City Hotel is fine. I struggled to swallow my Tex-Mex at Pancho Villa (local chain).

DAY 12. Toward Oulu via Tornio, 200 km, and again, nothing to see in this land of lakes and forests. Detour and only photo stop in Tervola for a wooden church—my vacation is officially ruined... The Cumulus City Hotel is fine in this pleasant but empty and dull city, though it’s a university and tech hub. To cheer myself up, we splurged on a supposedly Viking meal at Harald—don’t know if the recipes are authentic, but my "Viking" knowledge stops at Vik, the animated boobs... Anyway, it’s good, unusual, and hearty.

DAY 13. After struggling to fill the tank (no station open with cash payment, only cards), we returned the chariot at the airport. The offices weren’t open yet at this early hour (8:35 AM flight), so I left the key in a mailbox without any inspection—I didn’t like that at all. I thought we’d get a propeller plane, but it was a well-filled Airbus. One-hour flight to Helsinki, the capital. Impossible to get clear information on buses to the city center, 40 km away. So, for 37 euros, we took a taxi with a trunk big enough for our three suitcases and three "cabin" bags. I’m not counting the cost anymore. At 10:00 AM, we could finally check into our large triple room at the Cumulus City Hotel on Hakaniemi Square—again, despite the size, with a fold-out armchair bed. Off to visit our last city, with the obvious purchase—you guessed it—a 24-hour bus ticket with a 1.5-hour mini-cruise for 43 euros per person...



The boat tour showed that the standard of living seems high here too—summer homes (or not) on the islands are very beautiful. A small canal was even dug to save these lucky owners time on maritime transport. Apartments sell for a fortune. Back at Market Square, we grabbed a snack at the market—a reindeer kebab with dried reindeer, cheese, and a mini cracker—simple but delicious. No time to waste—ours is limited. Even if there’s not much to see tourist-wise. Four churches compete: the very busy and beautiful Helsinki Cathedral (better outside than in), its direct rival the Orthodox Uspenski Cathedral (same), the Rock Church (Temppeliaukio) and the Wooden Church (Kampin)—both as beautiful inside as out!!! Here too, very little car traffic, but tons of people—tourists or not—and joggers. In the evening, a bit tired, we headed to the off-center hotel to try the Scandinavian Hesburger chain. For connoisseurs and 29 euros, decent fries and burgers resembling Burger King’s—while the other American giant is left behind. Personal taste, I guess. The next day, we took the bus tour again, passing the Parliament and the controversial Sibelius Monument—a 24-ton pile of clanging iron pipes. Then, to kill time, we headed to Linnanmäki amusement park, on a hill overlooking the city. Rides are packed together, and a new one appears every year. Mostly family-oriented, but two or three thrill rides were packed. Despite my advancing age, I gave it a try—obviously regretted it afterward... Europe’s oldest wooden roller coaster (1950) shows the genius of its creators, with a brakeman at the back—worth the detour and passes the time. We ate (if you can call it that) on-site for 19 euros. Back "in town," classic shopping centers are numerous, but souvenir shops can be counted on one hand. No matter—we had to pack because tomorrow’s the return. We ate burgers again near the hotel and Hes... but served at the table for 67 euros. The next morning, to kill time before the 4:00 PM flight, we went to the port and its tourist market, where I splurged 15 euros on a cap to add to (or clutter) my already well-stocked collection. We finally learned that bus 615 goes to the airport, with a stop in front of our hotel where the luggage was left in storage after checking out. Still, count 40 minutes with this indirect route. Via an Air France flight operated by Finnair, after 3 hours, we returned to Roissy CDG—our vacation is truly over!!!!!!

CONCLUSION (if I may) Among the three capitals we visited, our unanimous ranking is: Oslo, Helsinki, and Stockholm—period. Despite a few imperfections in my itinerary, I’d say the Lofoten Islands are really worth it—two days on-site is a minimum. Finland, and not just because of the radars, is way below—nothing to see tourist-wise. I didn’t say nothing to do for those with time—nuance... Norwegian fjords, even if once you’ve seen one, you’ve seen them all, are really beautiful, though this destination is quite expensive for us. Norway, thanks to its oil and gas, is very wealthy, near full employment, with an annual GDP per capita of 70,000 euros!!! A pack of cigarettes at 13 euros and beer at 10 euros doesn’t make this a dream destination for an addict like me. We were very lucky with the weather—only two and a half days of rain over 14, unlike many bloggers whose stories I read before leaving. The welcome wasn’t always what we expected. Despite the massive French presence, we’re not always as welcome as Asian conquerors, to whom the West, racing to its doom, continues to roll out the red carpet—literally! I don’t regret our choice—it’s worth seeing once, but only once. At least now we know what we’re talking about!!!!! Finally, as always, here’s the link to my public slideshow on YouTube. For the private one, some spicy scenes (especially with Santa and a troll) could cause me more problems—I’ve had enough!!! www.youtube.com/...zbIgZC6Pk&t=165s See you soon, maybe for new adventures and getaways. DJ93.

Suède veuf grincheux Saab Ove… Nan j'déconne…

L'avantage d'aller au cinéma pendant les matchs de foot, c'est qu'on vous accueille à bras ouverts et qu'on vous fait bénéficier de réducs, y compris le weekend. Non seulement, vous avez le choix entre les vingt premières rangées, mais vous vous surprenez, qui plus outre, à pardonner à la mamie de l'avant-dernière rangée qui tente en vain d'éteindre son portable alors quel le film commence...

C'est dans un contexte hivernal que se débattent sans grand optimisme les habitants d'une copropriété quasi fantomatique, paumée dans un coin de Suède, et présidée par Ove, un sexagénaire solitaire, rustique au premier abord, pétri de principes, mais qui s'avère être un teigneux de la pire engeance, un sociopathe cynique et méchant.

Ove s'assure quotidiennement que les portes de la résidence sont verrouillées comme il se doit, que les vélos sont parqués dans les caves destinées à cet effet, que le chihuahua de la blonde peroxydée ne pisse pas dans l'allée… Il tyrannise les chats errants, traite de connard la fange des conducteurs d'Audi alors que sa religion l'empêche de conduire autre chose qu'une Saab, envoie sur les roses sa voisine qui l'enjoint de l'aider à régler son problème de chauffage...

Les multiples travellings arrière nous permettent de comprendre pourquoi le personnage est devenu ce misanthrope carabiné. Ove est devenu revêche et suicidaire depuis qu'il a perdu sa femme. Certaines scènes sont à la limite du kitsch, chargées de mélancolie, mais sans verser dans le larmoyant.

Le seul moment où l'histoire vire au conte de fée improbable, c'est à l'apparition de la nouvelle voisine, d'origine iranienne, qui parvient à faire d'un emmerdeur, atrabilaire patenté, un papy au grand coeur.

Mais on passe finalement un bon moment avec ce film, souvent désopilant (tiré du roman de Fredrik Backman), qui se résume en une simple et modeste leçon d'espérance... en l'homme, rien que ça.

bonjour

nous sommes couple camping cariste pres de bordeaux nous parlons peu anglais et nous cantonons souvent vers Espagne Portugal en hiver en camping car mais nous aimerions visiter le danemark la suede et la norvege de la mi juin 2015 à la mi juillet environ nous n'avons pas de grands moyens et aimerions avoir une idee du cout de ce voyage depuis bordeaux en allant jusqu'au cap nord et en se concentrant sur les sites les plus grandioses peut etre y retournerons nous si cela nous plait !!!! merci de vos aides

Bonjour à tous(toutes)

En 2016, de juin à août, nous avons pour projet de faire un périple, Suède, Norvège en camping-car.

L'idéal aurait été de partir avec un autre équipage, mais ce n'est pas toujours facile.

Ce type de voyage peut-il se faire seul?

Peut-on se faire comprendre facilement en pratiquant un anglais basique.

Toutes vos remarques et conseils seront les bienvenus.

A bientôt

C&C.

Bonjour à tous !

L'été dernier, je suis parti pour un grand voyage de 7 mois et la première partie se déroulait en Laponie. Ainsi pendant 3 semaines, j'ai écumé différents sentiers de randonnée, ait utilisé mon pouce pour me déplacer ainsi qu'expérimenté l'hospitalité norvégienne. J'ai pu voir notamment que la nature sauvage de la Laponie était sous la menace des gros industriels tout puissants. En effet, alors que je faisais du stop, on m'a proposé de voir le camp de Kallak en signe de protestations contre la construction d'une mine en plein territoire sami. Cependant, il reste encore de bien belles choses.

Je me suis rendu en Laponie en prenant le train depuis Stockholm Arlanda:



Je suis ensuite allé randonner sur la Padjelantaleden, un sentier de 160 kms en plein wilderness suédois. 6 jours et demi de marche, plein de sérénité !







Marcher en pleine nature sauvage n'empêche pas les belles rencontres, bien au contraire:



Comme je l'indiquais au début, je suis allé au camp de Kallak (ici pour plus d'infos) et j'ai pu voir des samis désemparés. En effet, la zone de construction de cette mine se trouve en plein territoire histoire des samis. C'est assez embetant et ce n'est pas prêt de s'arrêter



Sinon je me suis rendu à Tromsø, une des villes les plus septentrionales au monde et ait visité la cathédrale arctique:





Ensuite, je me suis rendu à l'île Senja et pendant que je tendais le pouce, une famille norvégienne s'est proposé de m'héberger, d'abord pour planter la tente dans le jardin, puis finalement en m’accueillant dans leur maison. Un vrai moment de partage. J'ai ensuite fini le voyage avec un trek sur l'île Senja, sur le sentier Senja på langs (80kms environ), que je recommande à tout amateur de randonnée un peu engagée:









Si vous voulez lire mon carnet de voyage en entier, c'est par ici

Sinon je reste disponible pour toutes vos questions sur ce fil !

A tout bientôt !

Bonjour, voici mon CR de la croisière Capitales de la mer Baltique (Copenhague, Stockholm, Tallin, St Petersbourg, Warnemunde)

Dimanche 25 aout Nous sommes partis vers 5h de chez nous, direction Roissy CDG. Notre avion décollait à 7h15 pour Copenhague. Nous n’avons pas eu de pb en vol, et nous avons atterrit à l’heure prévue à Copenhague. Le temps de récupérer nos bagages, nous avons acheté directement à une borne des tickets de métro pour rejoindre le port. Nous avons trouvé une borne juste avant de sortir de la zone de récupération des bagages mais il y avait un guichet et d’autres bornes près des quais des métros et trains. Nous avons pris un billet pour Nordhavn, avec un changement à la station Norreport. Cela nous a coûté 108Dkk pour 2 adultes et 2 ados. Nous prenons donc d’abord le métro (M2), puis à Norreport, le Strain (sorte de RER) (lignes A, B, C ou E) pour rejoindre Nordhavn. Le trajet total dure environ 30mn et n’est pas compliqué. Le changement est simple. Cela nous a permis de découvrir les trains danois, ou il y a de nombreux emplacements pour les poussettes, les vélos… tout est vraiment pratique. Le billet de train est valide 1h, et nous n’avons pas trouvé d’endroits pour les composter… Une fois arrivé à Nordhavn, en sortant de la gare, il faut prendre sur la droite, et longer la voie ferrée. Vous verrez sur la gauche un magasin Aldi, et là il faudra tourner à droite, en passant sur la voix ferrée. En face, il y a une sorte de portillon qui donne accès au port. Il suffit de montrer vos papiers de croisières et le gars vous indique la route : en gros il suffit de suivre la ligne bleue au sol. Il faut compter 10-15mn à pied, selon si vous êtes chargés ou non. Nous sommes donc arrivés vers 11h au bateau, l’embarquement débutait normalement que vers 13h30. Nous avons donc donné nos bagages, nous nous sommes reposés un peu dans le terminal (Wc, Wifi, boissons). Et nous sommes repartis à pied voir la Petite Sirène. Il faut environ 30mn pour la rejoindre, et ce n’est pas compliqué : il suffit de retourner au Portillon et en sortant de partir sur la gauche. Ce jour-là, il y a avait une manifestation sportive de marche à pied, et des milliers de familles se baladaient ensemble en suivant un parcours avec parents, enfants, poussettes… bien sûr ils allaient voir la petite sirène, mais nous avons quand même pu faire des photos. Il y a pas mal de monde, mais en patientant qq minutes, on arrive à prendre les photos que l’on veut. Le début de chemin vers la petite sirène n’est pas hyper agréable (on longe d’un côté le port marchand, et de l’autre une route assez passante), mais plus on s’approche et plus c’est agréable : les immeubles sont modernes et il y a un petit port. Nous sommes retournés au bateau où nous avons pu embarquer : il devait être environ 13h. L’embarquement a été assez rapide, la photo d’identité est prise par les agents de sécurité juste avant de monter dans le Costa Fortuna. Les personnes de Costa nous ont dit qu’on ne pouvait pas aller dans nos cabines tant qu’un message sonore ne l’indiquerait pas. En attendant nous décidons d’aller déjeuner. Mais juste avant d’arriver au self, le message sonore nous indique que les cabines sont prêtes ! Direction la cabine 1065 juste à l’étage au-dessus de la cafet. Nickel, notre cabine est plutôt grande par rapport à celles qu’on a eu auparavant. C’est une cabine balcon avec un grand lit, et un lit superposé juste avant. Le temps de récupérer nos valises et nous partons déjeuner. Ensuite, déballage des valises, les rangements ne sont jamais pratique je trouve : pleins de penderies, et des grandes étagères, alors qu’il faudrait plusieurs petites je trouve. Sieste, découverte du bateau, et exercice de sécurité. A 15h30 nous avons également assister à la réunion d’information en Français. C’était plutôt pas mal car animée par une française(Séverine). En plus elle avait pas mal d’idées pour les escales, et ne poussait pas du tout à prendre les excursions Costa. Le bateau quitte Copenhague vers 18h. Nous sommes au 2è service (21h), cela fait un peu tard au début mais on se voyait mal manger au 1er service qui est à 18h30… Par contre sur cette croisière, le spectacle pour le 2è service est après le dîner (donc vers 22h30), je n’ai pas trouvé cet horaire pratique. J’ai préféré notre précédente croisière (MSC) ou le spectacle était avant le dîner (pendant le dîner du 1er service). Là le temps de sortir de table, si on veut retourner à sa cabine, on rate systématiquement le début du spectacle, et à l’inverse, le temps est un peu long avant 21h pour le diner. Au diner nous sommes à une table de 8 avec une autre famille Française du sud de la France, 2 adultes et deux jeunes un peu plus âgés que les nôtres (15 ans). Tous les dîners seront passés en leur compagnie, très sympa. Nos 2 ados vont ensuite au club Teens pour la soirée de bienvenue. Ils iront tous les soirs, et quelques fois dans la journée quand il y a des activités sportives. Beaucoup d’allemands et d’italiens, quelques russes et des français.

Lundi 26 aout, journée en mer – très beau Moi j’ai toujours du mal avec les journées en mer, je les trouve longues. En plus les horaires des repas ne sont pas aménagés en fonction, donc le petit déjeuner termine à 10h30 (ou 11h30 mais en réduit) comme les autres jours. Nous faisons donc une petite grasse matinée puis balade sur le bateau, lecture dans la chambre, déjeuner à la cafet/self. Chaque midi c’est un peu compliqué pour trouver des places assises et faire la queue au self. En général l’un de nous garde une place, et va chercher ses plats lorsque les autres sont revenus. Mais du coup on ne mange pas vraiment ensemble ! L’après-midi, après être allé chercher les tickets pour le débarquement en chaloupe du lendemain, nous regardons un film dans notre cabine, et nous préparons pour le repas de Gala du soir.

Le cocktail a lieu à 20h30 pour nous, dans le théâtre. Puis c’est le dîner de Gala.

Bonjour!

Après avoir jeté pas mal de coups d'oeil aux CC disponibles en Amérique du Nord, je constate que la qualité des serrures pour la porte d'entrée de l'habitable des CC de même que les serrures des compartiments extérieurs m'apparait médiocre, au mieux "moyenne". Une mauvaise impression?

Avez-vous la même impression ou non pour les CC fabriqués en Europe?

Je me posais la question, car en Amérique du Nord, il n'y a que très peu (selon ma petite expérience) d'aires de services automatisées (vidange des eaux noires et eau potable) et de stationnements publics dédiés où laisser son CC sans surveillance. Il n'y a (presque seulement) que les terrains de camping, souvent clôturés et passablement sécuritaires.

Y a-t-il beaucoup de vandalisme et vols commis dans les CC en Europe? J'ai lu un récit de voyage ou on parlait de "scanner" utilisés à distance, et le récit continuait pour dire qu'en pleine nuit, un intru s'était introduit dans un CC... Avec l'aide du scanner? Même avec le contexte, je n'ai pas compris ou on voulait en venir avec ces "scanneurs"...

Fenêtres défoncées, porte arrachée de ses gonds etc... est-ce que cela arrive ou rarement? On installe des système de sécurité dans les CC européens ou cela est inutile? On change les serrures de bases pour de plus robustes? On met des entraves (cadenas) aux portes?

Merci!

Marc de Montréal

Bonjour, Je souhaite offrir à ma compagne un voyage en suède l'été prochain. Nous sommes de grandes habituées de l'asie du sud est, mais la suède est un voyage qu'elle rêve de faire. La question que je me pose est assez basique... Si nous avons l'habitude de voyager par nous même en asie, je me demande si cela est aussi facile en Suède. J'hésite à prendre juste des billets d'avion (avec location de voiture inclue) ou à acheter un voyage semi organisé (les hotels sont réservés à l'avance, le trajet est fixé par l'agence mais le voyageur a une voiture à disposition pour aller de lieu en lieu). Personnellement, je préfère de loin décider moi-même de mon trajet. Mais .... bref, quelle est votre expérience sur ce point ?

Bonjour 🙂

Nous partons en Suède .... puis laponie Finlandaise et Nord de la Norvège en juin 2012 pour 5 semaines Nous aimerions avoir des renseignements sur :

1/ Le tarif du pont entre Copenhague et Malmoe pour un cc de moins de 6m. 2/ L'alimentation locale .... au niveau des super market est-il facile de s'y repérer 3/ Les locaux sont-ils demandeurs de produit qu'ils ne peuvent pas acheter chez eux (alcool, cigarette) 4/ Les coins peu touristiques .... mais attrayants 5/ La route côtière semble avoir de bonnes routes quant est-il des axes intérieurs

Merci de nous aider à préparer ce voyage.

salut a tous,

Je voulais savoir les precautions a prendre au Guatemala. Je vais aller la bas en autobus depuis le Belize..c securitaire?

Sinon je dois prendre quels mesures de securite, s'il y en a.

Est-ce que c un pays cher a visiter, si je pars dans le classique PACKSACK!

Pour le reste, quel est le coin le plsu paradisiaque pour visiter et p-e meme faire la fete?

Merci a tous!

Salut les Amis de voyage forum

Pour les arrivants belge au quebec , il y a une aide pour ne pas faire le stages de 3 mois avant de recevoir les sois medicaux du regime du quebec (carte soleil)

Mes petites questions:

1)Je ne trouve pas la feuille (sur internet) ou le formulaire pour remplir le papiers pour avoir droit directement? - -Es ce que cette feuille, on nous la donne las bas au quebec ou il faud la demander en belgique? - - qu es ce qu il faud faire pour avoir droit et quel papiers on a besoin pour les belges?

j aimerais me preparer pour faire tout ces papiers pour quand j arrive au bureaux las bas je leur donne de une fois tout les papiers sans revenir 10 fois....j ai demander en belgique pour le formulaire mais il me reponde que il ne connaisse pas ce formulaire..

2)Quel est la meilleur securite sociale prive (payante) qualite prix c est a dire une bonne secu et pas trop cher?

3)Trouver un docteur de famille c est presceque impossible mais qu es ce que pon doit faire pour essayer de trouver un...telephoner tout les jours?comment on peut savoir les nouveau docteurs?Peut etre la meilleur solution c est d aller a l ecole de medecine et leur demander avant qu il sorte de l ecole a voir si il sont d accord de nous prendre comme patient le jour ou il travaillent?

la questions la plus importante pour moi c est a propos de ce format pour la securite des belges car je ne le trouve pas et je sais pas ou je peux me le procurer et se que je dois faire...

merci beaucoup pour l aide precieuse pour moi et tout les belges qui on la meme questions

cedric

je recherche aussi de nouveaux immigrant comme moi qui vont ou on immigrer il y a peu pour s entraider dans l info..mon e mail c est cedrico83@hotmail.com

ES CE QUE C EST UNE BONNE IDEE DE IMMIGRER LE 24 AOUT POUR TROUVER UN JOB?

Bonjour, je relance une discussion qui a été abordée plusieurs fois mais j'ai besoin d'être rassuré..ou dissuadé !!!! Nous partons avec ma femme en italie et j'ai prevu une halte sur naples de 6 jours pour visiter la ville et sa région. Je suis sur le point de reserver à l'hotel casanova a coté de la gare. En général, nous courons tellement dans la journée que le soir en général, nous ne sortons pas !!!zzzzzzzzzzzzz ;o) Cependant, il faudra bien aller manger une pizza quelque part. sachant qu'en octobre, il fait nuit à 18heures..à 22H................. ALORS, votre avis : coupe gorge ...ou légende (j'ai même lu que l'on pouvait se faire détrousser des pieds à la tête et se retrouver tout nu....... cela ressemble à une légende urbaine)

Merci de vos réponses Pascal

Hello,

J'ai deux/trois petites question à propos de la Scandinavie : Je n'ai pas de carte Visa, est-ce que ma carte Bancontact/Mistercash belge (carte de débit) est acceptée en Norvège et en Suède ? Grandes surfaces ainsi que pompes à essence ? A combien est le litre de Diesel à l'heure actuelle làbas ? Et dans le Grand Nord ? Dans le Grand Nord, y a-t-il suffisemment de pompes à essence pour être à l'aise et ne pas se stresser ? J'ai une autonomie de 800 km. Dois-je prendre un bidon avec moi ? Dans les villages et petites villes, trouve-t-on facilement auberges de jeunesse ou chambres d'hôtes pour une croute de pain ? Accès à internet ? Y a-t-il encore de la neige mi-mai dans le Grand Nord ? N'y a-t-il aucun problème aux frontières avec une voiture bourrée de nourriture ? Est-il envisageable de dormir dans ma voiture (froid, insécurité ...) ?

Merci beaucoup pour vos réponses !

Bonjour,

Effet de la crise, un nouveau calendrier et 20 jours de rpos du 4 eu 20 avril...du coup, pourquoi ne pas profiter?

J'aimerai savoir si quelqu'un pourrait me conseiller sur la possiblite de de faire une rando en ski de fond entre le 4 et 20 avril 2009...

1-Laponie, Finlande ou Suede, en fait, ma destination est plutot flexible, quelqu'un aurait'il une suggestion de destination et de parcours, sachant que je partirai pour 8-10 jours?

2-la neige permettrait d'envisager ce genre de rando a cette epoque de l'annee?

3- ou pourrai je trouver des infos sur les refuges disponibles a travers cette region (une connaissance y est allee voila pluisieurs annee avec un tour operator et il semblerait qu'il y a des refuges ici et la ou l'on peut s'arreter dormir) Refuge type haute montagne l'hiver: pas de gardien ni rien: un toit et de murs, tout simplement! J'ai recu de sinfos des offices de tourismes mais rien sur ce type de logement.

4-Quelle compagnie aerienne dessert le mieux ces pays?

voila, et bien j'espere recevoir des infos assez vite, je sais que c'est dans 15 jours, mais il s'agit de profiter et de preparere un plan B si celui ci ne fonctionne pas,

Merci d'avance

Maritxu

Bonjour à vous trippeux de voyage, de paysage, en vélo ou bien en pack sac Nous prévoyons, ma copine et moi faire le tour du monde a vélo et nous prévoyons passer par les pays scandinaves à l'été 2008 Nous nous renseignons déjà le plus possible mais on est conscient que les meilleurs conseils viennent de gens comme nous Nous voudrions savoir tous les commentaires, suggestions et impression possible par rapport à ces fabuleux pays. (on trip vraiment nature et vélo...les grandes villes sont moins notre fort mais tout commentaire si raportant vont être les bienvenues) Un gros merci d'Avance

Gabriel et Marie-Hélène

Bonsoir/Bonjour!

J'avais écrit un beau message tantôt, mais malheureusement, mon ordi a bogué lorsque j'ai cliqué sur "envoyer" alors je recommence!

C'est mon premier message sur ce forum, que je trouve d'ailleurs très sympathique et surtout, très pratique!

Alors je vais faire me présenter brièvement. Je suis une jeune femme de bientôt 19 ans, j'habite dans la Capitale Nationale du Québec, soit Québec! J'ai fait mon premier "vrai" voyage à l'age de 16 ans, en avril 2004. Je suis allée en France avec un groupe scolaire, nous avons visité la Normandie, la Bretagne, Paris, Versailles et la vallée de la Loire. Depuis ce temps, j'ai vraiment eu la piqûre des voyages. J'ai fait beaucoup de voyages à l'intérieur du Québec, donc si vous avez des questions n'hésitez surtout pas. Et j'ai fait quelques voyages aux États-Unis dont Vermont, Maine, New-Hampshire, Massachusetts (Boston)...

Je désire maintenant plus que tout faire un voyage à long terme (environ 1an) en Europe, mais comme les études m'en empêchent et que j'ai des congés de 2 mois et demi durant l'été (mi-mai à fin août), je pourrais faire un voyage quand même chouette. Mon projet est donc pour l'été 2007. J'aimerais faire le tour de la Scandinavie et un peu plus donc je tente de faire un itinéraire approximatif : Allemagne :Munich, Cologne, Berlin, Pays-Bas :Amsterdam, Danemark :Copenhagen, Norvège :Oslo, Suède :Stockholm, Finlande :Helsinki, et Russie :St-Petersburg et Moscou. J'ai donc plusieurs questions pour vous... Premièrement, est-ce sécuritaire pour une femme de partir seule dans ces pays la? Combien d'argent environ je dois prévoir? (J'avais prévu environ 3000$ CAN, sans compter l'avion) Et puis, est-ce que c'est trop court comme séjour pour visiter tous ces pays? Pour voyager entre les pays, le train est-il le meilleur moyen? Est-ce que c'est vraiment dispendieux? Je parle seulement français et anglais, c'est grave? Je vais par contre suivre un cours d'allemand à partir du mois d'août. Pour l’hébergement, les auberges de jeunesses, c’est la seule solution, ou il y’en a d’autres plus abordables? Je ne compte évidemment pas apporter beaucoup de bagages, du genre un gros sac à dos, ça va être suffisant? Est-ce que les gens sont généralement accueillants dans ces pays? Et finalement, si vous avez d’autres conseils, trucs, choses à ne pas faire et autres propositions pour mon itinéraire n’hésitez pas!

Merci grandement!

Voyage prévu en Juillet :

Pour visiter Copenhague et Oslo peut on éviter d'aller au camping pour dormir le soir est ce que quelqu'un a des tuyaux à ce sujet.

Dans la journée pour ces deux villes où peut on stationner le plus facilement.

Enfin faut il retenir les ferries d'avance entre l'allemagne et le Danemark puis entre le Danemark et la Suède ?

Hello, We’re back from this cruise. Boarding in Dunkirk: The doors opened around 12 PM. Since we were a bit early, I asked if my husband, who uses a walker, could wait inside instead of outside. I left him with the two suitcases and our two backpacks in the small hall while I parked the car in the reserved CFC parking lot for 10 € per day. The shuttle that was supposed to take people from the parking lot to the model pavilion was supposed to arrive in 5 minutes, but after 15 minutes, nothing. After waiting 15 minutes, I saw a man walking and asked if I could follow him. In 15 minutes, we arrived, and still no sign of the shuttle—it must have passed us. Arrived at the model pavilion. My husband had already checked in the suitcases with the help of a CFC staff member. The remaining formalities were completed quickly. We were on board by 12:15 PM. Headed to the buffet on deck 11 and waited in a lounge to access our cabin. At 2 PM, we discovered our balcony cabin on deck 9 at the rear: spacious with a large balcony compared to MSC/COSTA. Since we were at the rear, cabin 9202, there was always an issue with elevator number 4: "priority." Elevator number 2 stops at deck 10... and elevator number 3 was often out of order, leaving only number 1 for those with mobility issues to reach the buffet, especially for people who struggle with stairs. Note: only one child on board and lots of "gray hair." DAY 2: At sea. Lots of activities offered. Day 3: GOTHENBURG (Sweden). Sunny, 19°C at 11 AM. Excursion booked with CFC: Gothenburg and Haga for all. Interesting visit with a great guide. The HAGA district, in our opinion, is full of cobblestones and nothing special, not suitable for people using a cane or wheelchair. Elevator number 3 was out of order again. Day 4: Copenhagen. 15°C in the morning, showers in the afternoon. We didn’t book an excursion since we’d already stopped here with CFC in 2025, and based on advice from this forum, we took the hop-on/hop-off bus right in front of the ship. I still went to see the Little Mermaid again. No TV, but the elevator was fixed. DAY 5: At sea. Still no TV. DAY 6: GDANSK (Poland). 15°C, rain all day. There’s a shuttle to get to the city center. We took the excursion: Panorama of Gdansk. The guide left us at the entrance of the city center for 45 minutes, telling us what to visit. Meet-up for the rest of the tour at 3 PM. The bus left at 3:15 PM to cover 10 km to see St. Mary’s Cathedral. We arrived at 4:16 PM... The guide said there are often traffic jams in that direction. We had 10 minutes on site before heading to see the lighthouse and the Westerplatte monument, where we also had 10 minutes. Many of us wondered why we didn’t do the tour in the opposite direction since they knew there would be traffic... I went to reception to complain about the organization. The staff member read me the program: we were supposed to start with the lighthouse, then go to the cathedral and stay for 30 minutes before heading to the center of Gdansk for a short guided walk with some free time to buy souvenirs, etc. The guide did the complete opposite of what was planned and didn’t even give us a guided tour—just dropped us off in the city... DAY 7: Bornholm Island (Denmark). 14°C, a few sunny spells. We saw in the excursions that there was a walking tour of RØNNE. So, like many others, we explored on our own. There was a small orchestra welcoming us at the port and two people with city maps. We took the shuttle to leave the port—it ran every 15 minutes. The tourist office was next to the "shuttle bus." A pleasant visit at our own pace. DAY 8: KIEL (Germany). 18–23°C, nice weather. We took the "Kiel for all" excursion. Great guide and interesting visits. The port is in the city, and in 10 minutes, we were in the city center by following a blue line on the ground from the port. Elevator 3 was stuck again... and the TV was back. DAY 9: At sea. Elevator 3 works. DAY 10: At sea. Elevator 3 is out of order again... DAY 11: Disembarkation in Dunkirk. Cabins had to be vacated by 7:30 AM. Buffet open until 9 AM. Elevator number 1 was "reserved," leaving only number 2, which doesn’t go up to deck 11... a problem for people with mobility issues who had to cross the entire deck 11 and try to use one of the four working elevators at the front, which were crowded. My opinion: Interesting stops. The onboard staff were always welcoming, smiling, and mostly French-speaking. Evening shows were better than in March/April 2025—better singers, dancers, and presenters, and the costumes were improved. I liked the "magician" shows less. There were three onboard lectures by a very cultured person, but they went off-topic and were too historical for my taste. I didn’t attend the other two; my husband went to the second but not the third. For this cruise, there was a bridge theme, but we’re not players or interested. We didn’t take a drink package on board—water, coffee, tea, and herbal teas were available.

We had a water leak in our cabin the night before disembarkation. We reported it, and after the technical staff came (with a translator who didn’t speak English), we were asked to leave the cabin for a while for repairs. We went to a lounge, and after 1.5 hours, I checked in at reception. The repair took longer than expected... we had to change cabins... not ideal the night before disembarkation. No balcony cabins were available, so we got an ocean-view cabin, 6075, with a bathtub (impossible for both of us to use). We packed our suitcases, took a shower in our cabin, and moved to the new one. Noise from chairs until 12:30 AM because the cabin was under a lounge, and constant ventilation noise in the hallway... sleep was hard to come by. Disembarkation: Well organized. We were helped with transporting the two suitcases and bags to the waiting room while I took the shuttle to get the car. Guylène