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Retour Punta Bonita Las Terrenas English translation pending
by Patt · 2004-12-13 · 7 replies
Malgré tout ce que j'avais lu sur le Punta Bonita, j'y ai reservé la semaine du 01 au 08/12.

Voici en détail le résumé de ce séjour réservation dernière minute sur voyanet.com pour 2 pers (440 euro/pers): impeccable 😏 😏😏

* ***************************************** 1er jour***************************************************** Trajet Paris Orly-sud / Puerto plata :Vol Corsair CRL932 Dép 14h15 Arr 18h40 locale (1/2h d'avance) parfait 😏😏😏 Formalité rapide sans pb -Accueil Marsans tres bien -beau temps 27°c - petite perte de temps: le bus est plein. trop de bagages, un taxi prend en charge le surplus- 😏😊 Tranfert jusqu'a LT en bus Volvo climatisé correct mais poussif :230km - Durée 4 h 30 - C'est la partie la plus dure mais Las Terenas ça se mérite -Manuela notre très sympa hotesse Marsans pour le Punta Bonita nous remet notre clé, notre bracelet(ne pas trop le serrer pour pouvoir l'enlever à l'envie) et essaie de nous faire oublier la fatigue en nous mettant dans l'ambiance rep dom 😊😛 -Arrivée minuit 30 à l'hotel. trop fatigués pour voir qque chose, nous ne nous attardons pas sur un petit en cas servi au restaurant. La temperature est agréable la chambre spacieuse et agréable le lit est bon, on laisse tourner la clim au mini toute la nuit pour les moustiques

* ****************************************2eme jour*****************************************************

1 ere impression du Punta Bonita: des prestations 2* sur un site 4* 😎 🤪

La piste d'accès aux hotels de la playa bonita est très cahotique mais ça fait partie du charme - L'entrée et le parking sont en plein chantier, pas très joli donc mais sans nuisance -Passée l'entrée l'impression générale est très agréable - C'est simple, propre, coloré, coquet - Le site est digne d'un 4* - Les batiments d' un seul étages sont pimpants et les jardins verts, fleuris, bien entretenus. La piscine bien bleue est un peu petite mais agréable entourée d'une paillotte bar (ou l'on boira d'excellents cuba libre, pina colada et autre bananamama), d'un billard et d'un ping pong.

La salle de restaurant est bien aérée, agréable aussi, le personnel discret et souriant. Le buffet comprend 4 entrées, 3 plats principaux et 3 desserts .Nos premiers repas sont corrects, mais il ne faut pas arrivé dans les derniers.... . On propose seulement les produits locaux de saison . Apres le cyclone la variété s'est quelque peu réduite mais au prix ou nous avons payé le séjour nous ne sommes pas volés quand mème.Il ne faut pas venir au Punta Bonita et mème en général en Rep Dom pour une gastronomie raffinée. Donc au bout de 3 jours on revient vite aux meme choses.😊😕

Il y a aussi un grill prés de la plage et un resto sur reservation mais nous n'y sommes pas allés alors je n'en dirais rien.

Notre chambre est très bien. nous avons eu de l'eau chaude tout le temps sauf dans l'après midi et la nuit du Dimanche ou il y a eu une coupure générale de courant. La clim un peu agée fonctionne correctement bien qu'un peu bruyante. La serrure est récalcitrante et le restera tout notre séjour . Après les 2 ou 3 plaintes des 2 premiers jours, nous nous sommes très vite fait au mode de vie Dominicain et nous prenons tout ces petits détails avec humour . Il ne gacherons pas nos vacances 😉.

La playa bonita vaut bien son nom . Bien qu'il n'y ai pas un grand confort pour la partie hotel de la plage (seulement Transat sans matelas et petite serviette de bain disponible) la beauté du site efface tout. quel enchantement.😎

Pour se baigner il vaut mieux avoir des chaussures aux pieds car les coraux sont coupants et on a pied tres loin. les vagues sont un plus importantes que sur certaines autres plages car les coraux ne les brisent pas completements. la temp de l'eau est de 27°.😇

A 200m sur la gauche juste apres la punta bonita le début de la playa coson est bien abrité et encore plus paradisiaque.je me suis régalé avec un masque et un tuba.On a souvent l'impression d'y etre seul au monde 😄

Quelques motoconchos (et qques vendeurs plage) attendent le touriste. pas collants du tout. tarifs 50pesos/pers par trajet jusqu'à LT😛

Réunion info avec manuela et olivier pour nous vendre des excursions, nous achetons le safari pour le lendemain 65eur/pers

Présentation des 2 animateurs on comprend vite qu'ils n'ont pas de moyen et que leur enthousiasme est à la hauteur de leur salaire.On les verra malgré tout essayer d'activer quelques rares oisifs.

Nous partons pour LT en longeant la plage: 3km on mettra 1h en flanant . on en prend plein les yeux . il y a juste la traversée d'une marina en construction entre les 2 plages qui est moins agréable. Le temps est beau avec passages nuageux et une temp de 28° vers 11h

On s'aperçoie au bruit et à une odeur cetaine d'essence que l'on arrive dans le village. Motos, quads, 4*4, minibus, camions, avec sonos à fond. La partie " Europeenne" du village pres des plages est plus calme et raffinée . plus haut la partie dominicaine plus trépidante et typique. Les dominicains sont souriants et chaleureux en général mais sont là pour nous faire dépenser notre argent. il faut donc tjours marchander .Nous changeons nos euros :1 euro= 35pesos .

Retour en motoconcho à l'hotel vers 14 h . le buffet est ouvert et encore bien garni. Après midi plage, farniente, baignade

Le soir coctails au bar de la plage 😎😊😛, repas correct ( ne pas oublier sa lotion anti moustique spécial tropique) et dodo de bonne heure.

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IL a plu une bonne partie de la nuit. Le temps est assez nuageux. A 8h30 un camion tout neuf, aménagé, nous attend devant l'hotel. nous faisons la connaissance de Carlos ( Carlito )de club caribe, le corresp local de marsans. Un régal que ce safari avec lui . un guide formidable qui va nous plonger au coeur de la réalité dominicaine tout au long de la "piste inoubliable". Je n'en dirais pas plus .Un must quand on aime la nature et la découverte.😏😏😏

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Apres la journée de la veille, promenade le long des plages, baignades et plongés en apnée pour une journée détente😎

ne pas oublier son écran total, sa serviette de bain . Apparemment quelques bébètes dans le sable par endroit🏴‍☠️

* *************************************** jour 5*****************************************************

Nous louons un Quad à l'hotel pour éviter d'avoir à faire l' A/R à LT (30euro la 1/2 journnée, 55 la journée)

nous nous balladons sans problemes sur les plages et les pistes autour de LT malgré quelques gouttes vite séchées par le vent.

Pour rouler tranquille à LT une seule règle : Les locaux ont toujours priorité. 😉😉

Nous reservons la "mega "pour demain ( los haitises-cayo levantado-el limon) 85eur/pers

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Départ 8 h toujours avec Carlos . regroupement avec les hotels el guatapanal et el portillo . on est tres nombreux .

Tout sera tres interressant tout au long de la journée. Mème si certains se plaidront du repas de midi trop vite expédié. on ne regrette pas notre "investissement". Retour à la nuit fourbus mais heureux.🙂😊😛

* *************************************jour 7 *******************************************************

Dernière visite à LT. nous faisons nos dernières emplettes chez les locaux avec marchandage de rigueur sérré mais souriant. Retour à l'hotel vers 14h30 . juste à temps pour finir ce qu'il reste du buffet de midi.on se plaint pas, on était prévenu.

Dernières baignades, dernière plongée dans les coraux. on a pas vu passeé la semaine. on ne veut pas penser au lendemain.

Nous rencontrons Manuela qui nous donne une invitation de Carlos et son équipe pour une soirée dans un ranch Dominicain .Certains s'étant plaints du repas de la veille, ils invitent tout les participants à une soirée.

A 20 h des gua-guas viennent nous chercher à l'hotel, bien sur les raleurs ne sont pas là. Nous allons passer une soirée merveilleuse et inattendue bien arrosée aux cuba-libres avec des gens simples, gais, spontanés et plein d'humanité .😉😎😊

Retour à l'hotel vers 1 h du matin plein de leur musique et leur joie de vivre .Nous sommes définitivement amoureux de LT et ses habitants.

* **************************************jour 8***********************************************************

Vite un petit tour à playa bonita . Valises bouclées .on déjeune à 11h30 .Départ à regret vers 12h 30 pour 4h de transfert. on resterait bien encore un peu....

meme le bus s'y met et tombe en panne juste avant Samana. Manuela rameute une dizaine de gua-guas qui chargent touristes et bagages pour un retour sur puertoplata finalement plus rapide, coloré et agréable que prévu.

Le vol est a l'heure 20h50.Dans 8 heures il fera 2 ° à Paris dans un autre monde😕

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En conclusion le punta bonita est un bon 2* dans un site 4*. Si la nourriture et l'animation ne sont pas les priorités de votre voyage, si vous préferez organiser vous méme vos activités et privilegiez la nature et le dépaysement à un prix très compétitif, le punta bonita est fait pour vous

Sinon j'ai visité El portillo c'est un vrai 4* qui a tout ce qu'il manque au Punta bonita ( Restaurants, animations, matériels) mais pour profiter vraiment de tout: Hotel et environnement LT il vous faudra certainement rester 2 semaines et ce ne sera pas le meme prix.A savoir aussi que l'hotel vient de réouvrir et qu'il faudra quelques mois à la nature pour revenir à son niveau normal et etre a 100%
Hôtel el Portillo English translation pending
by Biloba · 2004-12-01 · 19 replies
bonjour

nous sommes un certain nombre a avoir réservé pour l'hotel el portillo

ou en sont les travaux?

qui peut nous renseigner et nous raconter leurs vacances?

promis à notre retour compte rendu détaillé

bonne journée

ici à paris aujourd'hui le temps est déprimant

je crois que je vais hiberner en attendant février
Un recit a 20 000 mains English translation pending
by Douya · 2004-08-18 · 16 replies
Pour fêter la réussite de VF et réunir les innombrables talents des voyageurs-écrivains-croqueurs-peintres-poètes, je propose d’imaginer les déambulations d'un voyageur de part le monde. Ce héros, en l'honneur de notre gourou spirituel, on pourrait le nommer SoiFranc ("soit beau, soit fort, soit grand", disait sa maman pendant toute son enfance, sans imaginer que, un jour son fils adoré entre tous ses fils créerait une drogue virtuelle et révolutionnaire sans antidote connu à ce jour et qui serait à l'origine d'échanges réels extraordinaires, de projets fous et même de vrais mariages d'amour!).

Notre SoiFranc a toute la vie devant lui, les yeux, les narines et oreille grands ouverts, une soif inepanchable de connaissances, mais malheureusement pas la capacité de se téléporter de Samarkand à Teotihuacan en un claquement de doigt ou un cliquement de souris.

Je commence le récit à Montréal, à vous de le continuer vers l'est ou l'ouest, le nord ou le sud, au grés de vos expériences, vos envies, vos impulsions. Tous les moyens et les styles sont permis, voyons jusqu’où nous sommes capable de transporter notre héros international.

Ca y est ! Apres des mois d'hésitations, de renoncements, de oui-mais-non, SoiFranc a enfin donne sa démission a son patron. Un soulagement énorme, un bonheur indescriptible, et toute la vie devant lui pour découvrir le vaste monde et voir si l'herbe est plus verte chez le voisin.

Bercé depuis si longtemps de récits de voyages, des grands noms d'hier et d'aujourd'hui, des Nicolas, Ella, Théodore, Jack, Sylvain, Priscilla et tant et tant d'autres. Gavé d'images télévisées époustouflantes, de reportages de National Geographic inoubliables. Le grand pas est fait ! A lui de mettre le pied là où sa main n’est pas encore allée !

Passeport, vaccins, argent, tout est en règle. Le sac est un dilemme. Valise ou sac à dos ? 50 litres ou 10 kilos ? 5 pantalons ou seulement 1 short ? Vêtements chauds ou froids ? Apres moult réflexions, qu’à cela ne tienne, prenons que le strict nécessaire, on trouve de tout au bazar de Gao ou sur les plages de Goa. Carnets pour coucher des mots, appareil photo pour immortaliser des sourires, SoiFranc est enfin prêt pour le grand voyage.

Un dernier coucher et lever de soleil sur le Mont Royal pour embrasser du regard sa chère patrie…

Et l’aventure, enfin, commence, au pied de la porte, le premier pas, celui qui conduira a tant d’autres. Abandonner tous les réflexes de l’homo modernus, plus de voiture, il faut recourir aux merveilles des transports en commun.

On the road !

Gare routière, devant l’immense panneau d’affichage. SoiFranc n’a aucun itinéraire tracé, il veut voyager au gré des vents et des courants, se laisser porter par son instinct et les rencontres, le meilleur des guides.

Dans 5 minutes, 2 bus. L’un va vers l’ouest, l’autre vers l’est.

Pile ou face ?

….
Mon avis sur le Paradisus Varadero English translation pending
by Aure2002 · 2004-04-24 · 1 reply
Bonjour

Je reviens du Paradisus et ai été ravie de mon séjour là-bas. La plage est magnifique et la piscine immense en forme de trèfle à quatre feuille superbe. Malheureusement, le temps n'était pas extra, il y a eu bcp de vent (du nord donc froid), bcp de nuage et de la pluie (souvent). Les Cubains nous disaient ne rien comprendre au climat, d'habitude il fait très beau.

Le complexe est très verdoyant composé de bungalows (les chambres sont au RDC et au premier). Le lobby est grandiose, tout en marbre et dans les tons ocre/jaune.

Chambre : toutes les chambres sont des junior suites, dans les tons ocre au RDC et bleu au 1er. Celles du 1er ont un lit à baldaquin. La chambre est composé d'un grand lit king size (matelas très dur), d'un coin salon avec canapé, table basse et deux fauteuils en rotin. Il y a un mini bar régulièrement approvisionné en eau minérale, sodas et bières. La tv est ok avec un bon choix de chaînes. La salle de bains a deux parties, l'une avec la baignoire/douche (pas de douche séparée, dommage!), bidet et WC, l'autre avec le lavabo et un grand placard dressing. Il y a 1 table à repasser (demander un fer si besoin à la femme de chambre), un parapluie (très utile pour nous !) et deux peignoirs. Il ne manquait que les chaussons !! Notre femme de chambre était très gentille et chaque jour elle nous faisait des décorations en forme de coeur, de cygne, etc. avec les serviettes. Il ya aussi deux serviettes de plage que vous pouvez échanger qd vous voulez au bureau des activités près de la piscine (enfin, j'ai dû batailler ferme car les 3 premiers jours, il n'y avait jamais de serviette de rechange et finalement, je suis allée râler-en espagnol, c'est fou comme les autochtones vous écoutent mieux quand vous maîtrisez leur langue- à la réception en menaçant de faire un scandale au Directeur de l'hôtel car le prétexte était toujours le même " la machine à laver est en panne". Finalement, les serviettes sont arrivées 5 minutes plus tard (comme par hasard) et depuis, il n'y a plus jamais eu de pb avec les serviette de plage).

Le dernier jour, comme notre avion n'était prévu que le soir nous avons demandé à rester un peu plus tard dans la chambre (elle doit être normalement libérée avant midi). Moyennant 30 USD nous avons pu garder la chambre jusqu'à notre départ, 17 heures.

la plage : imaginez une eau turquoise à perte de vue bordée d'une immense plage de sable blanc avec cocotiers, transats+matelas... Mmmh ! Il y a un bar/grill sur la plage et des activités sont proposées : planche à voile, catamarans, plongée sous marine (uniquement le matin à 9h30 mais c'est compris dans votre forfait séjour), snorkeling, et cours de danse directement sur la plage. Vous pouvez jouer au Volley.

Restauration :

il y a le buffet principal où vous pouvez prendre tous vos repas. Le petit déjeuner y servi. La nourriture est assez variée et très abondante. Au bout de qq jours toutefois, j'ai trouvé que la variété des plats était limitée et j'en avais un peu marre. Cependant, pour Cuba, c'est le grand luxe. Dans la journée, il y a l'Italien (stella del mare) et l'Espagnol (l'Halambra) où vous pouvez trouver des snacks, des hamburgers, etc... Le samedi soir au buffet, il y a de la langouste à volonté. Mais elles sont petites, sûrement congelées et leur chair était trop cuite (elle faisait un peu purée!). Toutefois, je peux comprendre que ces langoustes soient congelées, il y en a bcp et trop de clients à nourrir à la fois.

les restaurants à la carte : pour le soir uniquement, il faut les réserver auprès du bureau ad hoc qui n'est ouvert que de 9h à 11h. Au check in, on vous donne trois papiers (pour un séjour d'une semaine, un papier par restau) et vous allez faire la queue pour la résa. Bof. J'ai été déçue par l'Italien et par l'Espagnol. En revanche, le gastronomique (Romantico) est très beau, très chic et pas mauvais du tout. Un orchestre de chambre joue pendant tout le dîner. C'est vraiment agréable. Ils vous proposent de la langouste qui est meilleure que celle du buffet.

Il y a 3 bars : sur la plage, près de la piscine et enfin au Lobby. ce dernier est richement pourvu en alcools de marque et en boissons non alcoolisées. Les cocktails sont fameux et rapidement servis. les barmens sont super sympas (avec ou sans tips).

Activités/animations :Il y a des jeux de société qui vous sont gracieusement prêtés, des livres en plusieurs langues, outre les activités près de la plage (avec un bémol pour la plongée car à cause du temps, nous n'avons jamais pu aller plonger et les moniteurs ne sont pas très sympas surtout si vous ne parlez pas un mot d'espagnol - ce qui est le cas de beaucoup de clients), il y a 3 courts de tennis et un professeur peut vous donner des cours gratuitement. Le notre parlait parfaitement le français et nous avons eu un cours d'une heure 4 fois dans la semaine. Il était très pédagogue et patient et vraiement, cela m'a donné envie de jouer plus souvent au tennis (personnellement, je ne savais même pas taper dans la balle avant et mon revers, n'en parlons pas). Il y a aussi un court de basket/hand ball. Des échiquiers géants (un à côté de la piscine et l'autre près des courts de tennis). Vous pouvez faire du tir à l'arc, du tir à la carabine. Bref, les activités proposées ne manquent pas. A tout moment, vous pouvez prendre des cours d'espagnol avec un moniteur, des cours de danse sont proposés 2 à 3 fois par jour près de la piscine et de la plage. Il y a aussi une piscine rectangulaire pour faire des longueurs et pour les activités.

Bien sûr, les pourboires sont les bienvenus et ce, partout. Mais cela n'est pas tès grave si vous n'en donnez pas à tout le monde. J'ai eu l'impression que les membres du personnel avaient reçu des consignes très strictes sur ce point et la plupart affichaient sourire et respect en toute circonstance.

Clientèle : pendant notre semaine à Varadero, il y avait principalement des Canadiens et des Allemands, assez peu d'anglo-saxons (et pour cause ), qq Français, Espagnols et Italiens. Il ya principalement des couples et des familles avec enfants. Les gens s'habillent assez chic le soir, vous pourrez prévoir des jolies robes mesdames et pantalons longs pour vous messieurs. L'ambiance est calme dans l'ensemble, il ya toutefois des spectacles de 21h à 23h tous les soirs et une discothèque que les ados affectionnent. Il est vrai que si vous cherchez un endroit avec une ambience de style Lookéa ou Club Med, ce n'est pas le bon hôtel. Je résumerais par "Luxe, calme et volupté"" !!! Les célibataires qui désirent faire des rencontres et sympathiser avec d'autres peuvent aussi être décus.

Finalement, mon mari et moi avons passé une très bonne semaine, très reposante et malgré le temps peu radieux, nous avons bien bronzé (attention, le soleil brûle malgré les nuages et le vent est traître car on ne se rend pas compte que l'on brûle !!). Il y a aussi bcp de moustique mais un bon repelent suffit. Un seul bémol toutefois, le prix est très élevé par rapport aux autres hôtels de Varadero mais il semblerait que cela soit quand même le meilleur hôtel et le plus luxueux. Si vous êtes très exigeants, je préviens que ce n'est pas un palace non plus (rien à voir avec le Ritz mais vous êtes à Cuba et aucun palace n'existe vraiment - choisissez plutôt les Bahamas, ou d'autres îles comme St Barth, St Martin, etc...mais alors, on ne parle plus du tout des mêmes tarifs. Personnellement, j'adorerais, mais je ne suis pas milliardaire !).

Rapport qualité/prix : très bon hôtel bien que je n'y retournerai pas car il y a quasiment le même à Punta Cana pour moins cher qui est le Melia Caribe Tropical.

Pour finir, un petit mot sur la Havane. Nous avons loué les services d'un taxi pour 150 USD la journée (il nous a emmené partout où nous le voulions et nous a fait visiter la ville). très sympa, ne parlant pratiquement pas l'anglais. J'ai été un peu déçue par les cubains à la Havane, ils sont assez agressifs avec les touristes car nous représentons pour eux un tiroir caisse et basta. La vieille ville est jolie, bien rénovée et agréable à visiter. La visite de Partagas fabrique de cigares vaut le coup, les amateurs de bon cigares seront ravis, les prix sont moitié moins chers qu'à Paris et c'est très intéressant. Tout le monde attend un tip de votre part, si vous n'êtes pas habitués vous pourrez trouver cela agaçant. Il ya les prix touristes et les prix cubains, mais bon, on le savait déjà au départ. Pour ma part, si vous désirez voyager pour visiter un beau pays, profiter aussi des plages et voir de superbes paysages sans dépenser une fortune, je recommanderais plutôt le Costa Rica qui a une infrastructure touristique beaucoup moins développée certes mais très très bien agencée et les paysages sont absolument grandioses et variés. la population y est aussi pauvre qu'à Cuba mais ce n'est pas une dictature et les costa ricains sont charmants. Mais c'est un autre débat.

j'espère que ce témoignage vous permettra d'avoir un avis éclairé sur le Paradisus !🙂
Hébergement à Haïti English translation pending
by Isis2 · 2003-10-16 · 4 replies
Helloo

Je souhaiterai fortement voyager à Haïti cet hiver.. Le problème est que je suis activement à la recherche d'endroits où dormir mais la seule chose que j'ai trouvé c'est des hotels très dispendieux.

J'essaie de voyager pour le moins cher possible et le confort ne m'importe peu. Par contre, je pars seule alors je souhaiterai un minimun de sécurité....

Si quelqu'un connaît des hotels pas cher ou d'autres idées d'hébergement, svp faite le moi savoir.

Merci Beaucoup 🙂
From Mexico to the Wonderful Chiapas
by Phil31600 · 2026-03-24 · 49 replies


This one-month trip, from January 18 to February 17, 2026, allowed us to visit Mexico City and travel through the states of Puebla, Oaxaca, and Chiapas. We mainly used buses (ADO company) for medium and long distances and colectivos or taxis (or Uber) for shorter trips. Before leaving, I had contacted several people on the ground: Harry, a Vendéan settled in Oaxaca offering, among other things, discoveries of artisan villages or the Monte Albán site, and Oscar in Comitán de Domínguez. I’ll come back to our meeting with Oscar, who runs a local agency (CVL Travel Turismo Alternativo & Corre la voz) and owns a very pleasant hostel, a real highlight of our trip. Our journey took place in 8 stages on a loop starting from Mexico City. The connections between each were made by day or night buses depending on the trip duration. I had booked our seats in advance, either directly on the ADO company’s website or through booking platforms depending on the rates offered. Note that by planning ahead, I was able to benefit from very interesting "Early Booking" rates. There are several comfort classes. For all our trips, I had booked seats in Primera class buses, except for two in GL (Grand Luxe) class. The rates are very reasonable, and the buses turned out to be comfortable or even very comfortable (only the basic seat recline might surprise you).

Our itinerary and number of days per stage: Stage 1 – Mexico City: 4 days Stage 2 – Puebla: 2 days Stage 3 – Oaxaca: 4 days Stage 4 – San Agustinillo: 4 days Stage 5 – San Cristóbal de las Casas: 3 days Stage 6 – Comitán de Domínguez: 6 days Stage 7 – Palenque: 4 days Stage 8 – Mexico City: 2 days If I were to do it again, I’d remove one day from Palenque and add it either to Puebla or San Cristóbal to visit nearby sites or villages, or to San Agustinillo to enjoy one more day by the Pacific Ocean.

Stage 1: Mexico City (2,200 m / 9.2 million inhabitants) We arrived in the Mexican capital around 10:00 PM. The simplified customs process was very quick. After exchanging some money at the airport, we took a taxi to our youth hostel. We got around the capital on foot, of course, but also by metro. Signs are very rare, and we took the train in the wrong direction several times. After a few mistakes, we systematically asked on the platform if we were going the right way. The metro is very affordable. You need to get a rechargeable card (the Tarjeta de Movilidad Integrada) and top it up as needed. This card (less than 1 €) isn’t personal, so there’s no need to get one per person.

Mexico City: Day 1.



Visits and walks of the day (note: many museums are closed on Mondays): The Zócalo or Constitution Square: it’s one of the most beautiful, largest (195m x 240m), and oldest squares in the world. This is where Cortés decided to build the center of the new Spanish city on the site of the former Tenochtitlan market. Stones from the pyramids were used to pave the esplanade and build the surrounding colonial churches and buildings. During our visit, the huge square was covered with (resin) cacti, the theme of the temporary exhibition at the time. Indeed, temporary events or exhibitions take place here throughout the year. It’s also the endpoint for many protest marches.











The cathedral: it’s sinking by one centimeter per year despite massive stabilization work (the collapse of many Mexican buildings—30 cm/year—is due to groundwater pumping). It was built starting in 1571 and completed in... 1813. The modest remains of the Templo Mayor (exterior view): they have high symbolic value, as this monument was the most important in the Mexica Empire.

We then walked through the streets of the historic center to the Santísima Church, unfortunately closed for renovation work. Next, we took the metro to visit one of Mexico’s most important pilgrimage sites: the Insigne y Nacional Basílicas de Santa María de Guadalupe, as well as the Capilla del Cerrito on the hill. The first, dating from the colonial era, is really leaning a lot.



The second, shaped like a rotunda, is very impressive from the inside.



In the basement, there’s a sacred tunic where, in 1531, an image of the Virgin Mary is said to have appeared. A real mystery for scientists, the garment has never deteriorated since that date. Slow-moving conveyor belts allow pilgrims to admire it, preventing crowds from gathering in front of the image for hours. Well thought out!

From the top of the Capilla del Cerrito, you get beautiful views of huge Mexico City.

On the Roads of Costa Rica
by Yadin · 2026-02-28 · 7 replies
Hello everyone, I’m happy to welcome you to this new travel journal. We’re heading to Costa Rica together—a Central American destination that dreams are made of for many French travelers and attracts crowds from France.



It was the country’s wild nature and safety that convinced us to go, since we’re traveling with our 7-year-old little one. We didn’t have much vacation time in February 2026 (only 12 days), so we optimized as much as possible.



Here’s the itinerary: Wednesday, February 11: Flight from Marseille to San Jose via Paris and Atlanta Thursday, February 12: Pick up the car, drive to Poas Volcano, visit La Paz Waterfall Gardens Friday, February 13: Poas Volcano and drive to Manuel Antonio Saturday, February 14: Manuel Antonio National Park Sunday, February 15: Nauyaca Waterfall and Playa Linda Monday, February 16: Drive to Monte Verde and Santa Elena Reserve Tuesday, February 17: El Tigre Waterfall Reserve and Treetopia Park Wednesday, February 18: Monte Verde Reserve with a guide and drive to La Fortuna Thursday, February 19: Sloth guided tour, Observatory Lodge Park Friday, February 20: Arenal Volcano National Park, Termalistas del Arenal hot springs, and night tour Saturday, February 21: Return to San Jose, flight to Paris via Atlanta Sunday, February 22: Arrival in Paris and flight to Marseille. That gives us a solid 9 days in the country.



Budget breakdown: Costa Rica is an expensive country, but no more so than France. However, almost all hikes and waterfalls are paid entry, which can really add up. For meals, sodas (6–10 €) are cheaper than restaurants (10–20 € per dish).



Flights: We chose Delta Airlines for the price: Marseille to San Jose was 740 € per person (modifiable, with checked baggage and seat selection included). Other direct flights from Europe were priced between 1200 € and 1600 € with more restrictive conditions. That’s 2220 € for the family.



Accommodations: Alajuela, first night: 139 € (1 night) at Rodeo Estancia Boutique Hotel, with personalized airport pickup, transfer to the hotel, and a briefing from Vert Costa Rica agency the next day. Poas: 66 € (1 night) at Cabañas Tierra Fértil (entire apartment). Manuel Antonio: 394 € (3 nights) at La Palapa Ecolodge (hotel in the jungle). Monte Verde: Chalet Aloha Monteverde Cloud Forest (2 bedrooms): 125 € (2 nights). La Fortuna: Arenal Dream Garden (1 bedroom): 217 € (3 nights). Total: 941 €.



Car rental: I went through Vert Costa Rica agency (Vincent is a French expat who set up the agency in Costa Rica and makes great YouTube videos with useful tips). I rented a 4x4 that was delivered to the hotel the day after arrival and returned at the airport before the flight. The total was 772 €, including full insurance (zero deductible), a child seat, and a phone with a Costa Rican SIM and WhatsApp. The rental company was Poas Rent a Car. The vehicle was well-maintained—no complaints. Gas: 100 € for the whole trip (3 fill-ups).



Activities: To get discounts, I bought the pass offered by Vincent, which paid for itself after just one activity. It cost me 30 € (promo since I rented the car through him). Prices are for 3 people. I’ve added stars to rate them: La Paz Waterfall Gardens ****: 112 € Poas Volcano National Park *: 33 € Manuel Antonio National Park ****: 35 € Nauyaca Waterfall ***: 25 € Santa Elena Reserve **: 45 € El Tigre Waterfall Reserve ****: 141 € (with meal) Treetopia (ziplining, suspension bridges) **: 250 € Guided tour of Monte Verde Reserve ***: 113 € Sloth guided tour (with breakfast) ***: 115 € Arenal Observatory Lodge (with meal) ****: 102 € Arenal Volcano National Park *: 34 € Termalistas del Arenal ****: 20 € Night tour ***: 116 € Total: 1171 €.



Meals: 600 € My favorite restaurants: Poas: Food court Mercaditas in Fraijanes Manuel Antonio (near La Palapa): La Langosta and also El Patio Near Nauyaca Waterfall: Ricar2 el Avión Between Manuel Antonio and Monte Verde: Soda D’Calle Santa Elena: HG’s Food Guadalupe (between Monte Verde and La Fortuna): Soda Río Piedras Arenal Observatory Lodge restaurant Arenal Oasis Ecolodge restaurant



Other expenses: 300 € (groceries for breakfast, drinks, ice cream, souvenirs, etc.) Total overall: 6065 € (about 2020 € per person).

Now, here’s the day-by-day account of this beautiful trip.

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From the Awakening to Travel to Morocco in the 90s
by Jojoone1 · 2026-02-20 · 77 replies
As I’ve mentioned elsewhere, I inherited my love of travel from my parents and some of my grandparents. A strong passion, but one that was unfortunately limited by our family’s modest resources. Back then, living in northern Alsace, a simple trip to the southern part of the region—with the Wine Route as our destination—felt like an extraordinary journey to a land of plenty for the little boy I was in the late 60s and early 70s. Everything seemed so huge when you were still just a kid. Back then, I was overwhelmed by countless sensations—I was already highly sensitive, with a keen mind and a nose and taste buds that were developing like a pro’s. Which, as I’d later realize, wasn’t always an advantage.



Those magical days always began with a gentle late-spring or midsummer morning. The interior of the white Peugeot 404, license plate 210 LZ 67, had already soaked up the sun before the engine purred to life, and the cabin gave off a scent I could still recognize today—a fragrance I found so pleasant. Back then, I had no idea it was just the smell of warm plastic from the car’s interior. Yes, the scents of the 404 on sunny days became my madeleine de Proust... What’s more, the whole family was unusually cheerful because those moments of relaxation and leisure were rare. Everyone worked, and no one had an easy job or was well paid. Without the *Trente Glorieuses*, these experiences might never have happened.



Once we crossed the canton’s borders, I felt like I was light-years away from my everyday surroundings, and every kilometer plunged me deeper into *terra incognita*. It was thrilling. Far from my so-called "medium-sized" town, wheat fields, cornfields, and cabbage patches stretched out, punctuated by tall poles connected by long wires and topped with vegetation—like giant clotheslines without laundry, where magical beanstalks might grow to touch the sky. Back then, I was still far from tasting their product, which was simply beer. At the time, there was still a significant local hop production. Fun fact: it wasn’t until 2002 that Anglo-Saxon scientists proved hops and cannabis belong to the same biological family.

After the fields, the landscape took another step up as it rolled past the little boy’s eyes, often glued to the windows. First came modest hills, then a succession of rolling slopes that soon formed an unbroken chain. Their 700 meters in altitude felt like Himalayan peaks to me—impressive, inert giants, a whole new world. Gazing at them, an intense emotion welled up somewhere between my stomach and lungs, nearly taking my breath away. What mysteries, what treasures did these heights hold? And then there were the cherries on top—the crowning touch that made the scene even more magical: proud, majestic castles perched on the summits like impassive sentinels. Monuments from the past, yet firmly rooted in the present on their rocky spurs. The little boy’s eyes sparkled—he’d been given a castle for Christmas, complete with battlements, towers, a drawbridge, and fully armed knights. He’d watched and lived *Ivanhoe* on the only French TV channel that existed back then.

Only once did my paternal grandfather join us on one of these trips. A tall, intelligent man with a face that could shift from stern to mischievous, clearly full of humor and charisma. Sadly, his relationship with alcohol had taken a toll on his life and, by extension, those of his loved ones. He had a strong personality—if his boss crossed the line, he wouldn’t hesitate to punch him, which meant he went through a lot of different jobs. Back then, you could quit one job and easily find another. It was quite something to see him in his final stages, hallucinating pink elephants and even drinking perfume when he had nothing else left. The last time I saw him, he’d slipped away from the doctors and nurses while hospitalized in pretty bad shape—at least, I assume his liver was the issue. We were sitting down for a family lunch when the door burst open, and there he stood in his pajamas, eyes twinkling with mischief, clearly pleased with the dramatic entrance. That theatrical moment didn’t spare us from burying him a few months later at the age of 71. One day, my mother told me the family doctor had quietly remarked that it was a shame—with his robust constitution, he could’ve lived to be a hundred. Yes, the family doctor—this was the man who’d come treat you any day, at almost any hour, just for a phone call. It really existed, it’s not a myth!

That day, his wife—my paternal grandmother—was also along for the ride. Everyone agreed that Jeannette was a good woman. She worked as a waitress at *Le Tigre*, the biggest brasserie in town, right in the center. Most customers preferred to be served by her, including local dignitaries and even the mayor. As a kid, I didn’t find her very fun, open, or warm—she seemed a bit stern. Back then, women in their fifties already had the face and build of grandmothers. Same went for men, don’t get me wrong. I had no idea about the struggles she faced because of her husband. I didn’t know that 30 years earlier, she’d had to flee Alsace while pregnant, under threat from Nazi fighter-bombers. I didn’t know she’d had several miscarriages, and that my father—her only surviving child, born prematurely in March 1940 at the other end of France—weighed less than a kilo at birth and was so tiny he could fit in a shoebox. Hard to imagine he’d grow into a strapping man nearly 1.80 meters tall, tipping the scales at 100 kilos. When you come back from summer camp in early August and ask why she didn’t pick you up with your parents, and they gently tell you she’s "in heaven," you don’t realize she passed away at 54 after suffering greatly from stomach cancer that had spread.

Back to that family outing, that enchanted parenthesis. I even remembered where we’d had lunch when I passed through Dambach-la-Ville decades later. One of those charming, flower-filled towns Alsace produces in abundance—and preserves so well. This one sits high on a hill, and I was a bit stunned on the parking lot because the view stretched far, revealing the Alsace plain below—its fields, villages, hills, and forests. The world seemed so vast and enticing that day, even though I was only glimpsing a tiny fraction of it.



The region was already very touristy, but I wouldn’t notice the downsides until much later. That Sunday noon, I discovered a large restaurant filled with diners. I can still see the enormous piece of meat they served me, decorated with a little wooden skewer topped with a flag. I kept that one for a long time. Those were the golden days of rich, flowing, thick sauces—so flavorful—and the era of the world’s best fries, made on the spot with the best potatoes. To top it off, I was *exceptionally* allowed a small bottle of apple juice, Orangina, or—even better if possible—Sinalco. Yes, Sinalco—like Orangina, but better. A brand that must’ve disappeared in the 70s, but why, and what a shame! Since then, Orangina’s little bubbles have taken the brand to the other side of the planet—it’s now Japanese.

Year after year, I’d eagerly await that ecstatic moment when the most beautiful castle in Alsace, the Haut-Koenigsbourg, appeared in my field of vision. The perfect model, the archetype that blended into the landscape at the height of a child’s dreams. The trip home always felt like a reality check—less jarring than an alarm clock, but more diffuse and melancholic. From then on, there was only one wish: *When do we leave again?*
7 weeks and 150 years between us on a southern Morocco road trip
by An5 · 2026-01-22 · 88 replies
We arrive in the evening in Marrakesh, and a taxi arranged by our friendly Riad is waiting for us. The driver takes us to the door, where we’re briefly greeted by our hosts. The room is heated—phew—because it’s really cold on this January 17th for our arrival. Riad Alisma, where we’re staying for 2 nights. The next morning, it’s pouring rain when we wake up, but after a good breakfast, the rain has calmed down. Off we go to the medersa, which allows for a relatively sheltered visit. We’d visited this palace 15 years ago—it’s been renovated since then.





From there, without the rain, we wander aimlessly and eventually end up near the tanneries, but it’s Sunday, and there’s very little activity. Of course, we get hassled by a tout.



Here, the hides after being treated with lime—I love the colors.

We part ways a bit annoyed. He gets a little revenge by giving us bad directions, and we end up outside the city walls. We decide to take a taxi to the new modern art museum—60 dirhams for the 5 km, which is nothing when you think about it. That tout, who we didn’t ask for anything and made it clear we weren’t buying anything, dragged us into a shop supposedly only open that day and demanded 50 dirhams for his "services"! Let’s forget that bad moment and enjoy the exhibition at the MACAL.



The taxi on the way back drops us off at Place des Ferblantiers, not far from our Riad. We’re a little peckish—it’s worth mentioning that at lunchtime, we only ate a plate of beans from a street vendor. So, we buy a bunch of little sweets, each more delicious than the last, at Ajar. We snack while sipping mint tea and watching life go by around us. A final visit to the Museum of Moroccan Cuisine on our way back helps us dodge a few more showers. Then it’s back to the Riad. The atmosphere in the city is heating up—it’s the AFCON final tonight. The temperatures, though? Not so much. We ordered a meal at the Riad, and it was a good call—not only was it really tasty, but the rain also picked up again. Our day in Marrakesh ends under the covers with a good book and some photo sorting. Still, we managed 10,750 steps. View of our Riad



Tomorrow, we’ll pick up our rental car from Medloc and head to Essaouira.
Trip to Morocco in September-October 2025, in our camper van
by Yan55 · 2025-12-27 · 21 replies
Hi everyone, We’re just back from a month-long trip to Morocco in our camper van. After crossing France (we left from the Nantes area) and Spain, we arrived in Algeciras where we bought our boat tickets to Tangier. When we got to Tangier, as we were going through customs, you can imagine our surprise when the customs officer took our road map of Morocco and pointed out the label "Western Sahara" (just like in the forum’s destination section, by the way!). He wanted it to say "Moroccan Sahara" instead!!! But there was nothing we could do—it was an old map... He wouldn’t listen, and after long discussions with the other (younger) customs officers, he finally gave it back and let us through... Unbelievable! Later, we heard that other travelers had their maps confiscated outright. So, hide it well if you want to keep yours!!!

Anyway, we skirted around Tangier’s suburbs—pretty grim—and finally arrived in Asilah.

Following the coast and the long promenade along the beach, we reached the campsite. It was a bit crowded, not much shade, but it wasn’t far from the medina or the beach, and it wasn’t expensive. There’s some life here: Moroccan families seem to live on-site, in tents or basic bungalows. A woman was cooking tagine on a brazier—we were right in the atmosphere! The night was quiet, and we slept well. We set off on foot, walking along the seafront to the medina... We’d already been here in 2009. It was less touristy back then! Still, at this early hour, the little streets inside were very quiet. The walls had been freshly whitewashed, and there were even more murals than before. Around 11:30 AM, we strolled along the ramparts by the sea. There was a nice breeze! And a lot more people around. We enjoyed a milkshake on the terrace of a café overlooking the beach that stretches out at the foot of the medina. Some young guys were having fun diving off the rocks—and even off the top of the wall!





Requirements for travel to Russia and Mongolia
by Tiger3 · 2025-12-20 · 79 replies
Hi there, I’m planning a trip to Russia and Mongolia, starting from France. Crossing the border at Poland/Belarus or Georgia/Russia—other borders seem either closed or complicated. Tourist visas for 3 months with multiple entries. Do you have any info on Russian companies that cover a 4x4 vehicle for 3 months, and what prices in rubles or euros you’ve paid?

Which bank did you use for expenses? (EuroMastercard and Visa cards no longer work.)

Regarding Russian SIM cards, a new system called "Gosuslugi" has been introduced. How long did it take you to get one, and what steps did you follow?

Thanks
Yet Another Travel Journal in this (Too) Familiar Rajasthan, But with Family and Kids
by Pagaljavab · 2025-08-30 · 201 replies
Prologue

This journal recounts a trip to Rajasthan that’s already over a year old and that I’ve only now found the chance to write about. The summer of 2024 marked my return to India—my tenth trip—after six long years away since my last solo wanderings in Tamil Nadu in 2018 (the journal of which is published on this site). That absence was partly (but not only) due to the long COVID and post-COVID period, which saw a complete halt and then a major slowdown in global tourism. To top it off, Voyage Forum announced its closure in an end-of-the-world atmosphere. A sad time for our favorite social activity…

A few weeks after returning from Rajasthan, I tried to motivate myself to start writing a journal to publish on a forum claiming to be VF’s successor, which I’d eventually signed up for out of desperation. But I kept hesitating and putting the project off because, for one, I no longer have the time I used to. For another, the vibe wasn’t really taking off on that forum—it was overrun with ads and not very active, contrary to what its host’s name suggested. Despite its good intentions and commendable role as a stopgap, it also turned out to be very impractical to use, especially when you don’t have much time like me. I’ll admit I’d occasionally check back on VF to see if anything was happening. But all the discussions remained frozen in time, stuck in that fateful year, 2020. Then, rumors swirled online about shady reasons behind its closure, leaving little room for hope.

And then, one fine morning, I got a message at work from Marien informing me that VF had reopened. What a huge surprise! Even though the forum’s “end” had played out in a somewhat apocalyptic atmosphere, the memories of passionate and heated discussions, the frank debates, and the useful exchanges that made this site a traveler’s goldmine and a unique hub of conviviality all came rushing back to me like a breath of fresh air. I finally saw a sign and tried to motivate myself to find the time to publish the journal of this tenth trip to India and fifth to Rajasthan. But in the end, I got bogged down in professional and family obligations and never managed to find the time to get started. That’s now fixed, though, because I had two reasons for wanting to do it: I find that looking back on a trip to tell others about it is a highly beneficial introspective exercise. Also, I thought this journal could be useful to other travelers on a few points.

Because, “do we really need yet another journal about Rajasthan?” you might rightly ask! Especially in a time when so many journals about the “Land of Kings” have been published since VF’s return, not to mention the countless stories you can already find online about this region, one of India’s most touristy. And I’d add, why go back to Rajasthan for a fifth time, where I’ve already dragged my feet more than enough—through its forts, deserts, temples, cities, villages, bumpy roads, train stations, tasty street food stalls, cheap guesthouses, and more? Where some might see just another overhyped tourist destination full of the same old *Arabian Nights* clichés, worn to a thread, that I mentioned earlier, when there’s so much else to see in India? Well, first because it’s a magnificent country I never tire of, where I started an academic study and made so many connections. It’s also packed with places where you won’t find a single tourist (right, Marie-Jo?), even in the heart of well-trodden paths and classic itineraries. And most importantly, as I said earlier, things have changed in recent years. First, after six years without traveling far, the urge to go back to India was getting stronger. But this time, no more solo trips (often) or duo adventures (sometimes)—now it’s a team of four that has to come along! And even if you can argue with that, what better place than Rajasthan to introduce India to people who’ve never seen it? To kids you want to amaze? Plus, traveling with your new little family to your favorite country isn’t the same as going solo in often spartan conditions that only affect you. It’s a different challenge, but ultimately probably much harder. So, is it really reasonable to take two kids to India, including a two-year-old baby? That’s one of the main goals of this journal (but not the only one)—to try to answer that question.

As you can tell, it’s not so much the destination but the slightly unusual setup of this trip that, in my opinion, will make this journal interesting. Despite my experience and expertise (yes, I dare say it) in India, there were plenty of questions before we finalized the plan and said, “Alright, let’s go!” The questions were flying for us parents. Is it wise to travel to India with a two-year-old? What would we do (it happened) if the kids got very sick? Would they be able to handle a road trip on Rajasthan’s bumpy, dusty roads using public transport? Could they handle the shock of such a different world—the dirt, poverty, pollution, noise (…and the smell, as they say), the spicy food, monkeys, mosquitoes, snakes, tigers, leopards, and so on? In short, all the clichés that I usually joke about suddenly became potential realities. Another concern: as a mixed Franco-African family (not me, but my partner and her oldest), wouldn’t we risk not always being well received, given what you sometimes hear about that in India? How would Indians react to seeing a mixed-race family, the ultimate taboo in a country of purity and social segregation, which would undoubtedly raise many questions for them? Of course, not everything went as expected… Because, as you know, with India—and what makes it charming for some—there are always complications: sometimes where you don’t expect them… and sometimes where you do. I’ll go into detail about that in the journal to come (not right away) and in the final review (even later). These experiences could be useful to travelers who find themselves in similar situations and have the same questions we did before embarking on such a journey. And maybe it’ll spark the curiosity of those who aren’t concerned and will read yet another Rajasthan journal, but with its own unique twists.

Despite my unchanged constraints, which mean I have little time to write this, I don’t want to rush the story, so I’ll take my time. There will probably be lulls. I hope that won’t stop people from coming to react, debate, share their impressions, or ask for information.
Another side of my trip to Thailand: Villages, nature, countryside, mountains...
by Marien33 · 2025-08-08 · 232 replies
February 9th is a pivotal day during my trip to Thailand. Up until this date, my focus had been on cities, temples, and other urban landmarks. Starting February 10th, I’ll finally leave the city behind for the outskirts—one town, one life, farther from tourism, more real, more authentic... Then comes the bucolic surroundings of Chiang Mai, nature, the countryside, the mountains.

This morning, I head to visit the ethnographic museum. I’d been told about another one, but it’s permanently closed. I wonder if it’s the same one that might have changed its name and location.

I thoroughly enjoy visiting this museum. At first, I’m a bit annoyed because the place is packed with noisy school groups blocking the display cases without even showing the slightest interest. But soon, their chaperones manage to lead them into another room, giving me some peace. They maintain this distance throughout the tour, allowing me to explore the museum in complete tranquility. I really appreciate their tact.

I’m amazed by the absolutely stunning fabric displays and the countless everyday objects, especially the very old pottery. There’s so much beautiful basketry and intricately carved wood. The statues are also incredible... After seeing all of them, I no longer feel like buying any from the shops.

On my way back, not far from my hotel, I discover a rather unique place that only serves one drink, which they’ve made their specialty: egg coffee! A pretty surprising novelty. I have to try it.



At the bottom of the cup, they pour a layer of milk, topped with a layer of liquid coffee, followed by a layer of egg yolk, and finally a top layer that turns out to be a mix of coffee and cocoa powder. It’s a cold drink that, in the end, doesn’t have much flavor, and the price is pretty steep for such a small cup. You’re paying for the exclusivity!

Later in the day, I venture once again into small alleys, something I love doing when exploring a new city—no specific goal, just wandering east of the city, outside the walls.



I encounter very few tourists there and discover unsuspected little shops overflowing with lovely items, much cheaper than what you find in the heart of the tourist district. Then I wander through the floors of Warorot Market. I discover another kind of temple there: the temple of good deals. I love finding clothes that are really original for locals, not the flood of shirts and pants that tourists love but no Thai would ever buy, which invade the shops in the "Historic Square." I stop in my tracks in front of a stall with beautiful shirts featuring stunning geometric patterns in elegant color combinations and very short sleeves. Hmm, these would be perfect for showing off my biceps, one of which is adorned with the magnificent Ganesh tattoo I got last year in Bali. "When you’ve got nice things, you’ve got to show them off!" he said. 😜🙏💪 I pick out two for 380 baht and negotiate them down to 300. But the seller won’t go any lower. I understand I’ve reached the limit of her commercial possibilities. Just as I’m leaving the shop, happy with my purchase, my ever-helpful inner voice, Petite Voix, suggests: - You didn’t try them on because you were too lazy to take off the one you’re wearing and also because of the sweat, but you could just put one on over the one you’re wearing. It’s light enough that it won’t bother you.

I go back to the two sellers, who burst out laughing when I ask to try them on. - Oh no, it’s way too small for you! It’s a women’s shirt! - But they don’t look particularly feminine in style! And I chose XXL... I put the shirt on, and of course, it won’t close. Then I notice the buttons are on the wrong side. That’s why the sleeves seemed so short!!! They put the shirts back on the rack and refund me without any fuss, commenting amid total hilarity: - Well, thank goodness you tried it on just as you were leaving the shop!

Since I don’t want to walk too much before tomorrow’s first Big Outing with the driver, I end my stroll with a visit to two very pretty temples recommended by Joël.



I’d rather not post more temple photos. But these ones smell like village and countryside...







I’ve never seen anything like Wat Ket Karam, so extravagant...





And I end my day with two other lesser-known temples: Wat Noung Kham, simple and finally free of gold and glitter,



and Wat Dap Phai, where an intimate ceremony is taking place at the end of the day.
Mixed (even disappointed) review of the NCL Sky Indian Ocean cruise from April 19 to May 3, 2025
by Alfre99410 · 2025-05-08 · 70 replies
Hi everyone,

I’m back from this “mixed” two-week cruise in the Indian Ocean on the Norwegian Sky.

Originally, I had booked a cruise with AIDA (also in the Indian Ocean), but unfortunately, the company decided to cancel it and offered us other options, which we declined because the dates didn’t work for us.

Since my wife really wants to do a cruise in the Indian Ocean, but very few companies offer this destination, it’s a bit complicated—especially when the dates don’t line up. Finding a good compromise between companies and timing is tough. Retirement can’t come soon enough!!!

After some research, I found a really great itinerary with Silversea (a luxury cruise line) for a 19-day cruise from Cape Town to Victoria, stopping in Madagascar (2 days), Praslin, La Digue... But my wife couldn’t get the time off. Not only was the itinerary amazing, but the price was unbeatable (5,200 € per person for a balcony suite, all-inclusive). What a shame—I would’ve loved to try this company, but maybe next time (if we’re lucky enough to have the chance).

My wife tried to take unpaid leave but wasn’t successful... Oh well!

On my end, I have more flexibility with vacation time since I travel a lot for work, so I can accumulate my days off and take them when it suits me.

So, we settled for this cruise (the only one that matched my wife’s vacation dates). Sure, we weren’t thrilled about the ship, but the itinerary wasn’t bad. We figured, why not?

I requested a quote from Logitravel, and after a discount, we paid 2,600 € per person for a balcony cabin (category BA) with the More At Sea package, which includes: 300 minutes of internet, premium drinks, 5 restaurants, and discounts on excursions...

The itinerary:

Day 1 Dubai (UAE) Boarding 11:59 PM Day 2 Abu Dhabi (UAE) 7:00 AM Day 3 Abu Dhabi (UAE) 2:00 PM Day 4 Sea day Day 5 Sea day Day 6 Sea day Day 7 Sea day Day 8 La Digue (Seychelles) 10:00 AM 8:00 PM Day 9 Mahé (Seychelles) 7:00 AM 8:00 PM Day 10 Sea day Day 11 Antsiranana (Madagascar) 7:00 AM 6:00 PM Day 12 Sea day Day 13 Pointe des Galets (Réunion) 8:00 AM 9:00 PM Day 14 Port Louis (Mauritius) 7:00 AM Day 15 Port Louis (Mauritius) 8:00 AM

After booking the cruise, I started looking for flights (Paris/Dubai and Mauritius/Paris). It’s peak Easter vacation time, so tickets are crazy expensive... I ran several simulations on Skyscanner and was shocked by the prices.

A direct flight from Paris to Dubai with Emirates is 1,400 € per person (one way), and the return from Mauritius to Paris (also with Emirates via Dubai) is 1,350 € per person.

Given these outrageous prices, I decided to book a flight with a layover. The best value I found was with Qatar (via Doha) for 650 € per person, with a 2.5-hour layover in Doha, and a direct flight from Mauritius to Paris with Corsair for 750 € per person.

With the More At Sea package, we had a 300 € credit per person for flight tickets (as long as we booked through NCL).

I requested a quote, and they offered: OUTBOUND: April 18, 2025 – Egyptair CDG-CAIRO 10:05 PM-2:30 AM February 19, 2025 – CAIRO-DUBAI 5:30 AM-10:55 AM RETURN: May 3, 2025 – Kenya Airways Port Louis-Nairobi 6:50 PM-10:10 PM, Nairobi-CDG 11:50 PM(+1)-7:30 AM (price: 950 € per person).

Sure, the price was good, but we didn’t want to fly with those airlines, and NCL didn’t have any other options. So, we booked our flights ourselves.

D-Day: Departure from Paris on April 18 with Qatar via Doha:

Two days before leaving, I checked in online and took the opportunity to buy seats near the emergency exits since my wife tends to get swollen legs on long flights. So, she prefers having extra legroom (cost: 132 € per person). It’s a bit pricey, but peace of mind is priceless.

Usually, when I have an early flight from Roissy, I always book a hotel the night before (near the airport) to avoid stress and not miss my flight. But since it was school vacation time and Good Friday, we decided to leave very early from home...

The flight was scheduled for 9:05 AM. We live 70 km from the airport and had to be there by 7:05 AM.

We barely slept... Up at 4:30 AM, and by 5:45 AM, our Uber was outside. We arrived at the airport (Roissy Terminal 1) by 6:50 AM.

Check-in was smooth—less than 10 minutes, and our bags were dropped off with boarding passes in hand.

This was my first time flying out of Roissy Terminal 1 since it was renovated for the Olympics. Wow, it’s a huge improvement—nothing like the old “camembert box” we used to know!

A few photos:

















Coming up: Layover in Doha
From Bangkok to Krabi, Thailand by Car!
by Attila · 2025-04-15 · 317 replies
This first trip of 2025 will have the taste of Asia.

More precisely, Thailand!

It’s not my first time—I’ve often traveled across Southeast Asia between 2000 and 2015. (This travel journal, for example...)

But it’ll be my partner’s first steps in this part of the world.

The itinerary we’ve chosen will alternate between familiar sights for me and new discoveries for both of us.

I’ll get to see how the country has changed in 20 years—and what’s stayed the same!

We were torn between the north and the south of the kingdom. Fears of smoke from slash-and-burn farming and a desire to relax on the sand tipped the scales toward the south...

What if we rented a car?

I think driving in sprawling Bangkok would be a bit ambitious, so we’ll only book our vehicle from Hua Hin to return it in Surat Thani.

Other transportation will range from tuk-tuks to overnight trains and ride-hailing services.

And of course, the plane!

I’d love to travel from Auvergne to Bangkok by road, but 15 days wouldn’t be enough...

Plus, the current geopolitical situation isn’t exactly favorable...

So, once again, we’ll be stuck for hours in the less-than-comfortable economy class of Qatar Airways.

The arrival time was on schedule, entry formalities were quick, and all our luggage made it.

We left Lyon in wind and cold—now we’re breathing in the warm, humid air of กรุงเทพมหานคร.

To reach our hotel, we first took the metro, which dropped us off in the city center in about 30 minutes for the incredible price of 1.18 €.

A few taps on the GRAB app, and we booked a ride-hailing service for the last few kilometers.

We waited a while for our driver due to insane traffic in the area, but once in the 4x4, we were at our lodging in no time.

We chose this small hotel for its riverside location, tranquility, and price.

It’ll do the job perfectly—the only downside is the weak breakfast.

The room is inviting, and we collapse onto the bed for a well-deserved short nap.

Wake-up call in an hour for our first visits!

See you soon...

3 weeks in Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan, preliminary travel questions
by Attila · 2025-04-04 · 228 replies
Hi there, 🙂

I’m thinking of taking a trip to these two countries in 2026 (late spring to early summer).

I’d arrive in Almaty and leave from Bishkek, and I’d be driving myself.

I plan to spend 1 week in Kazakhstan and 2 in Kyrgyzstan. The itinerary isn’t set yet.

My preliminary questions are about formalities, hassle levels, and the car.

From what I understand, no visa is needed, the passport must be valid for 6 months after entry, and there’s no longer a requirement to register with the authorities at each stop. In short, once you’re in, no administrative headaches.

Except for permits needed to drive in certain regions?

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About crossing between the two countries:

- On foot - In a rental car

Quick? Easy?

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Are both countries safe? (Meaning you don’t have to stay on guard all the time.) Are the cops corrupt? (A little, a lot, passionately, not at all?)

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Is it better to rent a car for both countries or rent a vehicle in each country?

A 4x4 or something else?

Is accommodation plentiful enough that I can skip a rooftop tent, or is it better to rent a 4x4 with one?

I’ll definitely have more questions later...😉

Thanks for your answers !
Skyscrapers, Markets, Ice Cubes, Tourism, and Waterfalls... Thailand's Excesses
by Marien33 · 2025-03-20 · 249 replies


A somewhat lengthy title... I could have simply written: from Bangkok to Chiang Rai, via Chiang Mai, since that was my route. But when poets embellish our travel journals with their verbal flourishes, you’ve got to try not to be too ordinary.

Skyscrapers of excess? You’ll have gathered that from the photo illustrating this journal—though it might change as the trip goes on.

The excess of markets—not so much in their size, though... Chatuchak... But in their sheer number. Day markets, night markets, floating markets, fresh produce markets, fish markets, meat markets, spice markets, fabric markets... and even... amulet markets... For luck, good fortune, protection. Not to mention, sadly, the market for girls—and boys, incidentally. I’ve even heard they’re displayed in windows. I’ve heard about that one, like you have, but I didn’t set foot in it, so I can’t say anything about it. Some even claim there’s a black-market trade in children. Disgusting! It reminded me of the book *The Parcel* by Anosh Irani, which I recommended in another journal. The story is set in India, but I’ve been told it exists in Thailand too. So, the "famous Thai markets" we’re bombarded with in paper and online guides—sure, they amazed me in the first few days, and I don’t regret visiting them. But no matter how big they were, I quickly got my fill since you saw the same things at every stall...

I had a market overdose.

Excess of tourism? I should say *tourists*, since I saw them literally swarming in the streets and those famous markets. I’d forgotten about them. I’d lost the habit, living in an Indian city for so long...

Waterfalls are a bit like markets. At this time of year, they’re not particularly spectacular, but they’re everywhere. There are the ones everyone goes to see. For example, Erawan, which I decided to skip even though it was in my original itinerary—I guessed it’d be a nightmare with the selfie circus. On the other hand, you come across them all over the place, hidden in the mountains and forests, not listed in any guide. Not to mention the ones you can find in temples or even private homes... Yes, really! Thais love waterfalls, so they install them in their gardens—and I even saw one in the middle of the city, right on the street! Sometimes they’re tiny, but very photogenic.

But what do ice cubes have to do with this? Why the excess of ice cubes? Not only are they everywhere by the ton, but they put them in *everything* you drink. You’d think they’d even put them in soup! And it’s not just one or two ice cubes—no! They fill the container to the brim, whatever it is, then pour the liquid on top to fill the gaps. They’ll make you an excellent coffee right in front of you, piping hot, then—bam! An avalanche of ice cubes in the glass. Okay, I’m exaggerating a little. They *do* sometimes ask if you prefer your coffee—or tea—hot. Everything edible, and especially everything drinkable, is refrigerated: vegetables, fruit, hot drinks (I mean, drinks that are *usually* hot), but meat and fish are left out in the open. They just wave a little whisk to shoo away the flies when they get too eager. Mind you, I never put fruit, cheese, eggs, or water in the fridge in France, but I do in India. And I refrigerate meat and fish too... Though sometimes one of those little flies sneaks into the fridge...

You won’t find practical or technical details in this journal, like addresses or prices. Others do that better than me. You also won’t find the names of obscure or unknown places I discovered, or directions to get there.

I don’t really feel like recounting what I saw day by day, following my schedule and route. There might be flashbacks, projections into the future. It’ll depend on my memories, what I felt, what I hated, what comes back to me—and maybe your questions and our exchanges. And for those who’ve never read me before, you’ll have to get used to my parentheses and digressions, maybe on a completely different subject, as my thoughts wander. Stories within stories. There’ll also be long, endless sentences—but still punctuated, so you can follow along. Though I used to curse Proust and his sentences that started on one page and ended on the next, sometimes even further. I’d have to reread them twenty times to follow and understand what he was saying. I hated Proust. But hey, I was 20. Maybe I’d like him now?

See? The digressions are starting already. Forgive me.

You’ll find few photos here. First, the number is limited, and second, photos aren’t the main purpose of either VF or a travel journal. They’re too often used to mask the poverty of the text. And, sorry to say it, but so many of them are just plain ugly! If you really want to see photos, I’ll share some links where you can browse them at your leisure
12 days in Israel, before...
by Hyerois83 · 2025-01-15 · 44 replies
This trip took place in May 2023, a period of calm that later proved precarious. Day of May 17 Departure from Marseille on El Al (tickets booked by ourselves, while the stay itself was organized by Voyageurs du Monde). Before check-in, six or seven El Al staff members conduct a security check—quite understandable, but they do it in total chaos. They send people to the left, then block them, redirect them to the right, for no apparent reason. Most of the staff don’t speak French, which complicates things. They work at an incomprehensible slow pace, stopping the interview to do something else, then coming back and starting over... The flight goes smoothly, except for the meal service, which, for a four-hour flight that El Al delayed to lunchtime, is more than basic: a quarter-liter of water and a corned beef sandwich that’s absolutely disgusting and inedible. To get a coffee, you have to queue at the back of the plane. You end up missing Ryanair🙂 Arrival at Ben Gurion goes better than expected—the passport control is fairly quick, as is baggage delivery. Transfer to the Lily and Bloom hotel, Lilienblaum Street (easy to remember 🙂) As advised by Voyageurs du Monde, we book a table for the evening at the nearest restaurant, North Abraxas. Good atmosphere and decent food. We get a sense of the price level in Israeli restaurants. Around us, diners share dishes placed in the middle of the table. Much more convivial than our individual plates!! Day of May 18

The next morning, we go down for breakfast at 7:30 AM—a late hour, but the setup is slow, with the two servers taking their time. We ask the bartender for a long coffee and a black tea... It must be a complicated order because it takes him over 10 minutes to make it. He serves us with the grace of a dancer. A good breakfast if you’re not in a hurry, followed by a little stroll in the neighborhood, since our meet-up with Patrick Arfi, our guide for the day, isn’t until 10 AM. P. Arfi is a former publishing house director in Paris who has lived in Israel for a long time and has a vast cultural knowledge. After an initial chat, we head toward Jaffa, focusing on the Bauhaus buildings preserved by a clever urban policy that allows high-rise construction while maintaining old architectural ensembles.



This policy keeps the streets looking more human-scale than the usual high-rise districts in modern cities.

With the visit to Jaffa, Patrick introduces us to a fascinating slice of history, despite the temperature nearing 38°C. Jaffa, once an independent city, is now a neighborhood of Tel Aviv—a predominantly Muslim area. We notice a few buildings in poor condition. They belong to Palestinian families who left Tel Aviv. Otherwise, the city has been very well restored, apart from these few buildings.

A government agency rents out the ground floors of these buildings, which helps fund part of the security work. They also try to track down the owners and buy back the abandoned properties, but some refuse to sell. The visit is very touristy—most of the people we meet are tourists like us.













There’s very little local life, except in the lower part of the city. To be continued, as I’ve reached the allowed photo limit.
A lovely wander at the mercy of the wind in this amazing Rajasthan
by Solene40 · 2025-01-10 · 214 replies
Hey there, forum friends 😉

Some of you have mentioned missing the activity on this Indian "page," so let’s try to liven things up a bit—with joy and good vibes (mandatory with me 😜). Plus, it’ll make Jojoone happy 😊.

As big lovers of India—we’ve been six times—my co-traveler husband and I decided to explore Rajasthan this time around. The reason we waited so long to come here? We were dreading the tourist crowds in this state. But thanks to the timing (late March to early April 2024, which is starting to get pretty hot) and Aleph’s great tips, we were *very* far from mass tourism.

We spent three weeks getting around on our own for transport: mostly taxis and trains.

And I’ll admit, we had a rather "Arabian Nights" experience, far from the "real" India (Marien, if you’re reading this 😉). So this travel journal makes no claims other than to share what we saw, experienced, and felt—with all our ignorance about this country (which I’m fully aware of).

But fair warning: I go overboard with emojis, and this journal is super casual because it’s the one I share, almost in "live" mode, with our loved ones.

So, if you’re here, consider yourself almost part of the family 😄.

See you soon and....
A long journey around Australia
by Jlcro · 2024-12-09 · 85 replies
Sunday, October 1st, 2023 Mulhouse-London We dumped our trash on our neighbors. We hugged, overflowing with emotion. Then Léa from Taxis S showed up. She knows us well. For ages, she’s been our driver. She was practically the official taxiwoman for the trips of the company where Dom and I met. She knew us when we were single! Almost teenagers! She knows everyone and fills in the biographies of people we’d forgotten. Across the street, while we loaded the luggage, S., perched in his window frame, waved a handkerchief. This wasn’t just any trip. Then things got tricky. It’s funny how fate sinks its teeth into our happy moments—there’s this whole intermediate phase where the poison seeps in unnoticed because you’re still in the dark... First, there was a delay on our flight to London. Dom immediately went on high alert, while I stayed calm. In my mind, we had two hours. I knew we had to go from Terminal 5 to Terminal 4, but two hours—come on, that’s plenty, right?

Bad calculation! Because those two hours were between the first flight’s landing and the second’s takeoff. But flights close at least half an hour before departure. Getting from one terminal to another means taking a shuttle bus. We waited for the one going to Terminal 4... until a young guy paid to direct people (who hadn’t seen us) informed us it was no longer possible to access Terminal 4 without going through Terminal 2 first for a connection! That really cranked up the pressure. We started installing a mental countdown with a programmed explosion at the end—guaranteed stress with added beads of sweat. The terminal bus was driven by a young Pakistani guy. We were *so* tense we bombarded him with our frantic, repetitive questions. “So? When are we getting there? What’s happening? Why aren’t we moving?” Our eyes were glued to our watches. The poor guy knew. Perfectly. Because it was obvious—no way around it. We weren’t going to make it. It was impossible. But Dom and I stubbornly refused to believe it. Then the kid stopped the bus. Me, hysterical: “What are you doing? What’s going on? Our plane takes off in... in... 4 minutes!!!! We’re gonna miss iiiiiit!” He wasn’t calm either. “You’ve already missed it!” He explained we had to cross a zone that required an escort car to clear a path through the runways. Impossible to do without. It’s forbidden. We had to WAIT (!!!). Then he got a radio call—he had to rush to Terminal 3 to pick up a passenger who was *super* tight on time. “Amir!!!! It’s RIGHT NOW!” they yelled in his already-red ears, thanks to the complaints of two hysterical Frenchies. Dom and I were in overdrive, hallucinating! We wanted to stop him, maybe even hit him to prevent him from turning around. He picked up the girl, whom we instantly hated like the most despicable witch. I turned on my data, searched for Malaysia Airlines’ number at Terminal 4, called, and actually got someone—quite a feat. A woman cut off my frantic rambling with a blunt “It’s over, the check-in is closed, the plane is about to take off.” I heard her but refused to accept it. I yelled, “We’re coming!” She shot back her monolithic “It’s over.” Finally at the doors of that damn Terminal 4, we ran—*really* ran—a marathon, Gate 6, security checks, pat-downs, “Take off your belts,” we asked questions, everyone seemed confident, we ran with one hand holding up our pants, the other clutching our belt, Gate 6—the room was empty. A girl was sitting there, calmly on the phone. We pounced on her. She calmed us down. Little by little, the light came back. Our brains rebooted. We finally understood it was over. We’d have to start crafting a new plan with the new reality. It started with a return to Terminal 5 to talk to British Airways, which took a good hour. With the same driver as before. We were alone with him. He took the time to apologize, to assure us it wasn’t his fault, that our problem had no solution, that nothing could’ve changed the outcome. At BA, we were exhausted. We were greeted by a handsome young man in a navy-blue uniform with gold stripes everywhere. We could’ve made a scene, but we were just relieved to find someone who’d take charge of our story. It was a minimal response, but it was *a* response. I suppose we could’ve demanded a business-class upgrade or a free trip, but we were just happy with a few vouchers for food, a hotel room with breakfast, and a little bag with plastic toys, a razor, toothbrush, hygiene products, and a T-shirt... Trinkets... But we were fine with it all—we said thank you eagerly because the essential was assured. He found us seats on flights tomorrow. *Tomorrow.* We were afraid to hope! We had the exact same flights but a day later. The same crappy times, but it was all good. We felt saved from the shipwreck, like survivors. - And what about the luggage? - .... !!!!

Monday, October 2nd, 2023 London - Kuala Lumpur

It wasn’t the Ritz, but with exhaustion on our side, we slept well. The continental breakfast was way better than we’d expected from an Ibis Budget. Still, it wasn’t enough to restore my joy for life. The course correction had turned into an arduous obstacle course. I scoured the car rental site every which way. Couldn’t reschedule the car. I’d done it before, but this time... Not to mention the laptop battery was complaining—the Brits have this quirk of making their power outlets incompatible with our chargers. Frustrated, I called them but ended up with a girl who declared herself incompetent and offered to have someone from Avis in Perth call me back—someone who’d supposedly handle rentals better. I decided to wait while taking a bath. Barely settled in, the phone rang. I was soaking wet, of course, and asked Dom to answer. Unfortunately, she’s known for disliking my phone, and in a clumsy move, she hung up. We got annoyed. She put dry towels on the edge of the bathtub, but—another false move—they fell in the water. The phone rang again... I completely redid the plans for the next two days, then transferred the files to my phone to consult them later offline. I plugged in my USB cable... *Plop!* The battery died abruptly—my PC shut down without any of the usual polite warnings! I looked around, hoping to find someone to strangle... Long story short, you can tell the day started under the worst omens. I was in a foul mood and spread my bad vibes to Dominique, who was initially in much better spirits... I called Mastercard, hoping to get a refund for the non-refundable night in Perth we’d already paid for. Same old song: “We’ll call you back”... Then... I’ll cut it short—buses, trains, lots of waiting... We rushed to reach the infamous Terminal 4.



We tried new options and convinced ourselves that a delayed departure flight is unrecoverable, no matter the scenario. We were furious that BA hadn’t bothered to tell us, leaving us to run around like rats in a burning house.

Tuesday, October 3rd, 2023 Kuala Lumpur-Perth

The flight was pretty nice. 13 hours, though. Dom and I were facing each other across the aisle. We could get up easily whenever we wanted without bothering anyone and chat when we felt like it. Besides, their chicken was amazing. They were kind enough to offer Dom a truly remarkable glass of rum. Good movies too, including the excellent *Prisoners* by Denis Villeneuve. At KL, during boarding, we developed a nagging worry about our luggage. We checked with some Malaysian Airlines staff. I sensed their hesitation. They made calls. Then changed their minds, giving us smiles and thumbs up...

Wednesday, October 4th, 2023 Perth

*Happy is the man who, like Ulysses, has had a fine voyage.* Well, for us, it wasn’t that. Finally arrived, we experienced the loneliness of tourists watching the baggage carousel spin, emptying of its precious containers one by one, until only a handful of travelers were left, staring at each other in disbelief. Without luggage, you’re kinda screwed. Not even a change of socks—our feet had been swimming in the same shoes for 3 days. No adapter, so no laptop. No toiletries. We could’ve cried! The lost luggage guy played his part. If you want compensation, fill out the disclaimer on the website made for that. And then, “Don’t worry, your luggage will arrive tomorrow!” “Don’t worry?!” From the start of the trip, we’ve been jerked around, fed lies. Tomorrow is the *absolute* last chance to get them back. Beyond that, we’d have to scramble a whole new trip. And lose a lot in the process! I have no idea how to go about it. Tomorrow... OMG... Tomorrow... We landed at 1 AM. Avis, the car rental place, opens at 6:30. Luckily, we found some decent breakfast. It cheered us up and gave us a second wind. Incorrigible, we started believing again! Well, then we just killed time. What else was there to do?



In front of Avis’s little shack, we were freezing. We’d been there since dawn. The girl who showed up, a Latina, immediately saw us as a nuisance who’d ruin her hopes of a peaceful start. Her face and tone were as unwelcoming as possible. You know us—it ended with hugs. She gave us a gorgeous, brand-new car! A hybrid with ultra-sophisticated features, all buttons you shouldn’t touch if you want to drive this thing without causing irreparable damage! We’re off! Driving on the left is easy at first. You think about it constantly. It’s counterintuitive, it takes effort. It’s later, when you get used to it and confidence sets in, that it becomes dangerous—old reflexes can send you into a wall. Anyway, the car and I immediately clicked.

In Perth, underground parking next to the hotel, friendly welcome—we ended up forgetting all the morning’s mishaps. Should we go sightseeing?

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Northern Chile, Andean impressions.
by Attila · 2024-12-02 · 161 replies
Alright, this year, we're heading back to South America!

The initial plan was to retrace the route we imagined in the summer of 2020: a trip to northern Argentina starting from Córdoba.

Unfortunately, the flight to Córdoba no longer exists, and airfares to Javier Milei’s country are both outrageously priced and involve multiple layovers.

So, I tweaked Google Flights every which way and finally found a flight within my budget—departing from Clermont-Ferrand!

Not to Argentina, though...

Our transatlantic flight will cross the snow-capped Andes, landing in Santiago, Chile, with a return from Lima!

In between, two domestic flights and a big road trip loop starting from the coastal city of Arica to explore the treasures of northern Chile.

Our mode of transport: a pseudo 4x4 that won’t take us through sand dunes or devilish tracks but will let us tackle the entire secondary network, including unpaved main roads, while still being insured.

Is the suitcase packed with all-season clothes?

Are the driver’s license and passport ready?

Bank cards and a few euros too?

Off we go for just over 3 weeks of southern wanderings!



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To keep all my esteemed readers on track, here are a few maps outlining the Arica-Arica loop!

1- From Arica to San Pedro de Atacama via Pica and the Salar de Huasco

2- Around San Pedro



3- From San Pedro to Cariquima



4- From Cariquima to Putre



5 - From Putre to Arica



Gas stations in this part of Chile are located in Arica, Iquique, Pozo Almonte, Pica, Calama, and San Pedro de Atacama.
Mexico: The Magic of the Yucatán
by Lhorizon · 2024-11-11 · 44 replies
Hello everyone,

What a pleasure to be back on VF after a few difficult years 😎 So, before diving into the topic, welcome back to VF and above all... keep going!

Well, I’m finally picking up my old habit of posting a new travel journal.

Before heading to Mexico in the summer of 2023 with my family (my partner and our two boys, aged 18 and 16), I had somehow convinced myself—though I can’t even remember why—that the Yucatán was too touristy, too cliché, too expensive, and overrated!

The country didn’t particularly appeal to me, but faced with my wife’s insistence—she’d been there years ago, before we met, and had promised to show our sons this incredible place—my arguments didn’t hold much weight.

And thank goodness, because I have to admit she was absolutely right to take us there! In the end, we encountered far fewer tourists than we’d feared (except at a few sites), and the prices, which we’d been told were geared toward American neighbors (US), turned out to be quite affordable. In short, it was pure joy on both counts. All that was left was for the trip itself to be beautiful and memorable—and it was...

1st stop: Isla Holbox and the whale sharks

Holbox (pronounced “Hol-bosh”) is a stunning island where you can relax in an enchanting setting.



Our main goal in coming to Holbox was to swim with whale sharks. So, the first thing we told our hotel, Los Arcos Holbox, upon arrival was to arrange an excursion with one of the island’s many tour operators: Glendy Tours Holbox. We set off the next morning, bright and early.

The itinerary for this outing is the same for all tour operators (and there are about thirty of them!): roughly two hours by speedboat, then snorkeling with the whale sharks, followed by another boat ride to Cabo Catoche for lunch, then more boating to a fish-filled snorkeling spot before heading back. In total, the excursion can take eight hours—or even longer.



Besides my two sons and me, there were only two other clients on board—a French couple. Our boat was one of the very first to leave, but after ten minutes, the pilot got a radio call. We turned back without any explanation, returning to the departure dock.

There, a young woman who clearly fancied herself a diva was waiting for us. She was Mexican and boarded the boat, snubbing all five of us while flirting with the pilot and guide, who were suddenly all eyes for her. We couldn’t understand how this diva had convinced our tour operator to turn the boat around just to pick her up when she hadn’t even booked and we were already far out. We left 20 minutes late.

The two-hour journey passed surprisingly quickly, and for good reason: we spotted dolphins six times! They were leaping out of the water as they moved. Pure joy. We stopped whenever they were near the boat.



The photo isn’t great—the ultra-wide-angle lens on my GoPro makes the dolphins look smaller—but at least I got a souvenir.

A few flying fish (exocets) also glided a meter or two above the water as we sped along. The false start was forgotten, and the day was off to a fantastic start in this stunning marine environment...

When we reached the area where the whale sharks were supposed to be, the guide explained that we’d now have to scan the sea until we spotted one. It could take five minutes or forty-five, he said, and if we were unlucky, we might not see any at all!

An hour and a half later—still nothing! The captain then headed toward a distant area where about twenty other boats were already gathered.

Sure enough, there was a juvenile whale shark (still a good eight meters long) there, and all the boats were lining up to approach it slowly, one by one, so as not to scare the animal. Each boat got about thirty seconds within a few meters of it, engine idling, before making way for the next. We were allowed to approach three times, but we weren’t permitted to dive in. That’s normal—such a crowd of divers around a single animal would stress it out, and here, whale sharks are protected by regulations: swimming with them is strictly controlled. There was even a coast guard boat with us at all times, monitoring everyone’s behavior.

We were torn between the luck of seeing such a magnificent animal, even from the surface, and the discomfort we felt about the absurd situation. All those boats lined up just to catch a fleeting glimpse of the shark for a few seconds—let’s be honest, it was ridiculous. In short, the whole thing was unpleasant, and probably even more so for the shark than for us, though it did keep gulping down kilos of plankton as if nothing were happening...

When it was our turn to approach, I dipped my GoPro into the water at arm’s length and framed the shot blindly, hoping for a decent image of the shark.



On the third and final approach, the sixth passenger on board—the one we’d had to turn back for ten minutes after departure—quietly spoke to the guide and captain after putting on her flippers (even though, I’ll remind you, no one was allowed to dive). She wanted them to ask the coast guard for permission to dive with the shark—just her! She whispered so we couldn’t hear what she was offering in exchange.

The two lackeys complied and shouted the request to the officials in front of all the other boats, with no shame whatsoever. With so many witnesses, the coast guard had no choice but to refuse. The diva wouldn’t let it go and asked them to insist, which they did, but the refusal was firm and final.

On the nearest boats, everyone had heard and was stunned. They openly mocked this bimbo who clearly had no shame. Hidden behind her star sunglasses, she responded with a dismissive smile. Pathetic.

The encounter with the shark ended, and we set off for Cabo Catoche, a site on Holbox Island where we were to have lunch.



We were a little disappointed not to have had the chance to see the usual school of whale sharks (they’re often dozens swimming together!), but that’s nature’s way, and we knew it.

And then, an unlikely stroke of luck: a boat ahead of us was putting divers in the water with a pair of adult whale sharks. We joined them, and while we were putting on our masks and snorkels, the guide briefed us. He said my sons and I would go first, followed by the French couple and the diva.

But Miss World, clearly unhappy with this order, quietly complained to the guide, who eventually switched the order. It didn’t bother us since we’d only get a minute in the water anyway—what’s a minute more or less?

So the three of them got in the water, and a moment later, they were done. My two sons and I, sitting on the edge of the boat with masks on and snorkels in our mouths, were ready to finally take the plunge. But instead of continuing to follow the shark, the captain was suddenly all eyes for Miss Silicone! He even let go of the wheel for a moment to help her back on board.

One of the two sharks had already left minutes earlier, and the second was swimming farther away. Other boats were arriving, and the captain went to join the queue 100 meters from the shark. Soon, even more boats showed up. There were way too many people, the shark left, and diving was no longer possible.

I was, of course, a little disappointed not to have fulfilled my long-time dream of swimming with a whale shark, even briefly. But I was mostly disgusted for my two boys, who had been so excited about it. I told the guide exactly what I thought and asked for compensation—not for missing out on swimming with the shark (you can never guarantee seeing one, nature isn’t at our beck and call), but for clearly skipping our turn to dive. He promised a refund.

At the end of the day, back on land, he dropped us all off, and as he was about to leave, I reminded him about the refund. He agreed again, calmly got back on board, and sped off as if nothing had happened—just him and the captain, two total cowards. I couldn’t believe it.

Of course, back at our hotel (which had booked this tour operator—Glendy Tours), I explained the situation and asked for my refund again. The receptionist called the manager, who arrived with the guide. Our runaway wasn’t so cocky anymore. Inside, I was fuming, but I kept my cool during the discussion that followed.

Right off the bat, I made a point of looking the so-called guide in the eyes while telling him he’d run off like a coward. I did my best to stay calm, speaking clearly, staring him down the whole time, and repeating several times that he was a coward, in front of the manager, who didn’t say a word. The guide had clearly been told by his boss to keep quiet because he didn’t utter a word during the entire twenty-minute conversation.

Anyway, I’ll spare you the details, but in the end, the manager only offered us another excursion the next day as compensation for the “inconvenience.” It was just snorkeling with fish, not another whale shark trip. He admitted their fault, but since we had to leave early the next morning and had other bookings for the rest of the trip, we couldn’t accept. And he refused to refund us.

On Tripadvisor, Glendy Tours has a mediocre rating (3 out of 5), but more importantly, it ranks 29th out of 36 nautical tour operators rated by customers. I was pretty upset with the hotel for booking such an amateur for us.



If you want to swim with whale sharks in Holbox, you might end up with Glendy Tours. And it might go well—I certainly hope so. But given the price of such an excursion (3,000 pesos per person, about 160 €!), I’d still suggest quickly checking online before you go to see which providers have the best ratings. You’ll have a much better chance of things going smoothly with the top-rated ones than with those as poorly ranked as Glendy Tours.

On the other hand, if you’re a beautiful young woman, you can choose them without worry—you’ll get better treatment than the rest of us...

To wrap up this excursion, I have to mention the “respect for nature” angle that all these tour operators highlight. They tell us they respect the whale sharks: only two or three people can dive at a time, and only for a few minutes, so as not to disturb these gentle giants...

We believed them before we left, but that’s not what we saw. When the sharks are hard to find except for one, everyone rushes it, and only the constant presence of the coast guard prevents the tour operators from putting their clients in the water.

Because for the second shark we saw, when the divers from our boat got out of the water and we left to join the queue while it was our turn to dive, other boats quickly arrived and started swarming the poor shark, which eventually left.

In other words, it’s clear these companies only respect the sharks when they’re being watched.

Boat reversing a meter away from a pelican

And for the snorkeling near Cabo Catoche, they attract fish daily by feeding them—a practice that’s normally discouraged. Afterward, these fish can’t feed naturally anymore and become dependent on Glendy Tours and its competitors.

A quick note on the rest of the excursion: Cabo Catoche (the site where we had lunch, on Holbox Island) is the northernmost point of the entire Yucatán. The place is paradise.



On the way back, we spent half an hour snorkeling at a site that turned out to be fish-filled only because the tour operators had the bad habit of feeding the fish. But this practice, which isn’t respectful of nature, is normally discouraged.



Plus, life jackets—like in many places in the Yucatán—are mandatory!!



As divers, we didn’t find the site very interesting, but objectively, it should delight those who aren’t used to putting their heads underwater in beautiful dive spots.

We hated feeling trapped in those life jackets, stuck at the surface, and for me, the highlight was swimming next to a pelican that wasn’t too shy—it was paddling right beside me in green water.

Anyway, it seems we can’t post more than 10 photos at once on VF, so I’ll come back with the rest of the journal in another message. Because after these early trip mishaps, the rest of the journey turned out to be magnificent...
République Dominicaine: au fil de la route... et autres souvenirs English translation pending
by Jemaflor · 2020-09-15 · 7 replies


Ce sont mes derniers souvenirs de voyage à l'étranger, c'était avant … avant que la pandémie de la Covid-19 ne s'abatte sur notre planète et contrarie (en autre !) nos désirs de voyages loin de chez nous. Un récit à propos d'une dernière escale dans les Caraïbes, elle date du début mars et c'était donc en République Dominicaine. Ce carnet aborde principalement le souvenir d'une échappée le long d'une « route » hors des sentiers battus, dans le nord de l'île. Une région bien moins fréquentée et donc moins connue que les très courus sites balnéaires de cette grande île tropicale. Un récit qui est également l'occasion pour moi de partager dans une seconde partie quelques autres souvenirs de voyage en Rep. Dom. Ils sont un peu plus anciens et concernent quelques uns des incontournables sites à visiter de la destination.

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L'escale approche. Peu à peu, la côte se fait plus nette, le soleil a fait disparaître la nébulosité et la plage d'Amber Cove apparaît dans toute sa beauté.



Le trio qui fait le charme des îles tropicales est bien présent sous nos yeux : des eaux bleues, du sable clair bordé d'une palmeraie et un versant verdoyant qui en impose en surplomb du rivage. Un coquet clocher aux tonalités jaune et rose bonbon émerge au-dessus de cette étendue de palmes. Pour afficher la nationalité de l'île, les couleurs sont hissées haut. On reconnaît les carrés rouge et bleu séparés d'une croix blanche du drapeau de la République Dominicaine.



Nous sommes précisément sur la côte nord de l'île, dans la région de l'ancienne ville coloniale espagnole de Puerto Plata.

Un dernier coup d’œil sur la jolie baie encadrée de promontoires rocheux en fond de décor et bordée d'une langue de terre au vert lumineux qui défile juste sous nos yeux.



A peine débarqués du navire, on embarque à nouveau … mais sur un tout autre moyen de transport, finie la navigation, on prend place maintenant sur un drôle de véhicule hybride. Un genre de machine à grosses roues, dans un style intermédiaire entre camion et bus d'aventures tout-terrain. De simples banquettes font offices de sièges, quant aux dossiers et aux montants métalliques, ils sont tous rembourrés et capitonnés … On le comprend vite, la route, enfin la piste qui s'annonce pour cette virée risque d'être chaotique. Pas de doute, il ne doit pas s'agir d'un long ruban de bitume très tranquille !

Pour l'instant nous traversons la paisible petite ville de Maimon. Une agglomération sans grand intérêt si ce n'est d'avoir un aperçu de la vie quotidienne locale. Des enfants bruyants jouent dans la cour de l'école et quelques habitantes font leurs achats dans les boutiques, la plupart sont de simples maisons/cases comme d'ailleurs beaucoup d'habitations. En voici deux exemples assez représentatifs du style de l'habitat local. Une simple maison recouverte de tôles ondulées mais dont les murs extérieurs sont agrémentés d'une teinte bleutée. C'est un aspect des plus courants dans la petite cité.





Plus loin, nous passons devant une maison un peu plus cossue : un propret jardinet et des grilles ouvragées entourent cette demeure plus élaborée et dont on imagine le meilleur confort intérieur.



Passons la périphérie urbaine, place à la campagne. On le constate dès le début du trajet, les terrains aux abords de la voie sont détrempés voire inondés. Le chauffeur, sympa, nous informe que de récentes et fortes intempéries ont quelque peu endommagé la piste que nous devons emprunter … Au fond de cette baie, le courant et les torrents ont charrié des quantités de branchages, certains sont encore là, amassés au bord du rivage bordé de mangrove.





Sur ce tronçon, un torrent a emporté une partie de la route, le passage se fait désormais sur une seule voie constituée de terre battue.

Questions sur le tourisme aux Philippines English translation pending
by SuisseChris · 2020-08-04 · 75 replies
Bonsoir,

quelques petites questions. Si quelqu'un à une ou plusieurs réponses, c'est avec plaisir que je les lirais.

- Le tourisme représente quel pourcentage du PIB des Philippines ?

- Est-ce que vous savez combien de personnes travaillent dans la branche touristique aux Philippines ?

- Je lis, un peu partout, qu'il arrive assez souvent que les transports en commun aient un peu, voir beaucoup de retard. Si vous deviez vous déplacer d'un point A à un point B et que ce trajet requière plusieurs transports publics. Est-ce que vous prenez vos billets, un à la fois, par étape ? Ou est-ce que vous prenez tout vos billets en même temps ? Exemple aller de Cebu à Pandan, il y a des bus et des ferrys.

- Je regarde des vlogs sur Youtube. Je vois que dans les principaux endroits, comme Manille, Cebu, la plupart des gens portent un masque. Par contre, j'ai l'impression qu'ailleurs, c'est nettement moins populaire. Est-ce que je me trompe ? (j'ai regardé la courbes des nouveaux cas journaliers concernant la Covid-19, c'est pas joie en ce moment aux Philippines).

Merci aux personnes qui prendront le temps de me répondre.

Une belle fin de soirée à vous.
Il est grand temps de rallumer les étoiles! English translation pending
by Asia7 · 2020-08-04 · 85 replies
Bonjour à tous

Le Vietnam pays magique multiculturel aux paysages diversifiés et époustouflants. Voilà ce que je vous invite à partager sans aborder s'il vous plaît ce qui aujourd'hui empêche la planète de vivre... Essayons d'être constructifs et positivons! Il est grand temps de rallumer les étoiles!

Pour commencer avec légèreté: La médecine des Dao, le bain aux herbes. C'est un moment délicieux après une journée de marche et de visites rien de tel pour vous requinquer! Ce bain est très souvent proposé aux touristes dans le nord, spécialité de l'ethnie Dao il est "accommodé" dans plusieurs maisons d'hôtes et hôtels aux besoins des touristes.

Traditionnellement les recettes sont destinées à chaque cas et en fonction de la pathologie: femmes enceintes ou qui viennent d'accoucher, nouveau-nés, malades, vieillards…les herbes seront donc choisies en fonction des besoins et du type de médication (orale, en bain, en emplâtre...). C'est dès l'aube que les femmes, les hommes, les chamanes iront cueillir ces plantes, racines et écorces dans la forêt, le tout sera combiné à un régime adapté (on ne mange pas de tout..) et souvent suivi d'un massage spécifique.

Nous en avons testé plusieurs à plusieurs endroits mais celui de la chamane Dao d'un petit village au nord de Muong Lay restera sans doute le plus authentique et le plus insolite.. On nous prend en main dès notre arrivée dans la maison de la chamane. Elle y vit avec sa fille et son gendre... Maison, je devrai plus dire assemblage de planches et de tôles et quand on connaît les rigueurs de l'hivers on peut rêver mieux. La pièce principale est bourrée de pots en tout genre remplis de décoctions plus ou moins troubles...ces sont les médications à avaler, beurk.. Il y a aussi de gros sacs (plastique) d'herbes, de racines, d'écorces, un vrai magasin d'herboriste (l'ordre et la propreté en moins) sans oublier bien sur l'hôtel des ancêtres. Derrière des rideaux, les couches des habitants, nous ne dormirons pas là, ouf.. Puis attenantes, les deux salles des bains avec 2 baquets chacune et entre les deux sous une pergola un énorme foyer construit en ciment surmonté d'une aussi énorme bassine où l'eau et les herbes "cuisent" jusqu'à parfois 12 heures...c'est là que l'on fait aussi cuire la soupe des cochons... Le feu est alimenté de poupée de maïs et de bois. C'est dans ces baquets que nous tromperont plus ou moins longtemps...le temps de "cuisson" est décidé par la chamane en fonction de chacun, jamais plus de 30 mm...et les herbes qui seront rajoutée dans les baquets seront aussi choisies en fonction de chaque "malade". C'est très très chaud, il faut vraiment se faire violence pour entrer là dedans et c'est sans compter qu'une fois immergés la dame ajoute de l'eau chaude bien sur...ouille. Une fois "les touristes bien cuits" on nous sort de là, inutile de préciser que nous ressemblons plus à des homards qu'à des visages pâles... Après cuisson, nous serons conduits ensuite vers le silo à grains, où une pièce spéciale massage à été aménagée à son top, on l'atteint via une échelle de bois...au sol deux couches. Ici commence le moment le plus douloureux de tous les massages faits au Vietnam par le gendre et la fille de la maison.. Pas de douces caresses, non, non, mais un pétrissage et un battage en bonne et due forme suivis de torsion, j'ai cru ma dernière heure arrivée... Pour clore la séance nous dînerons chez la chamane d'un souper spécial, la couleur des mets est importante, nous ne mangerons que du blanc et du vert....des légumes et des herbes inconnues de nous et un peu de poulet bouilli, élastique à souhait, sans doute celui que nous avons croisé sur le chemin en arrivant et des petits poissons frits (très bons). C'est sans conteste le meilleur soin reçu au Vietnam si l'on fait abstraction de la propreté des lieux, des serviettes (surtout apporter les siennes) et des moments douloureux.
Déréclusion! English translation pending
by Pondy · 2020-05-11 · 396 replies
Déréclusion !

Je ne suis pas à un néologisme près.

Parce que j’me demande : Suis-je libre ? En liberté surveillée ? Contrainte ? Coercition sanitaire et salubrité publique... J’crois que secouer les peurs est mille fois plus efficace qu’un bracelet électronique. Voir le monde entier en pause, je ne pensais pas le vivre. Je comprends aujourd’hui avec quelle rapidité pourrait s’installer une dictature.

J’me demande pourquoi je ne ressens aucune crainte, pourquoi je me sens à mille lieux des peurs dont j’entends parler. Suis-je normale ? Suis-je inconsciente ? J’ai vu des gens avec un masque en voiture, mettre des gants pour tenir un chariot de magasin, où s’arrête le bon sens ? C’est quand même horripilant de se sentir infantilisé. Quand j’entends toutes ces sommités parler, j’ai l’impression qu’elles s’adressent à une population de mômes.

Parait que certains sont porteurs sains et transmettent le virus, paraît que certains ont eu la maladie sans s’en apercevoir et ont des anticorps, paraît que certains ont été malades et ont développé des anticorps, paraît que certains n’ont jamais été en contact et ne seront jamais malades, paraît qu’il faut qu’il y ait 60 % au moins de gens avec des anticorps pour l’immunité collective. Ca s’appelle RO lala.

Et beaucoup sont morts et au regard de l’humanité sur nos plus de 7 milliards, c’est une goutte. Une goutte d’acide et de chagrin pour les familles et amis des décédés, c’est certain. Des cataractes de panique pour des millions d’autres qui tremblent d’entendre un reniflement ou un éternuement. J’me demande aussi combien sont morts de faim et de maladie dans le même temps et aussi combien vont mourir des dégâts induits par le monde à l’arrêt.

Combien de pandémies ont-elles eu lieu sans que le monde occidental ne bouge un cil ? Un virus à la volette et qui disparaîtra comme tous les virus avant qu’un autre ne prenne le relais. C’est ainsi depuis toujours.

Ma solution : je respecte les peurs et angoisses des autres. Je respecte les consignes assenées à longueur de temps. Mais dans l’absolu, au fond de ma p’tite tête, j’pense tout autre chose et me tiens coite.
Été 2017: trois semaines en Colombie en famille English translation pending
by Bluequark · 2020-04-14 · 65 replies
Comment la Colombie nous est venue à l’esprit ?



La première fois que j’ai entendu parler de la Colombie – comme destination touristique, j’entends –, c’était lors de notre voyage en Equateur au cours de notre hâlte à La Rana canto(que je recommande chaleureusement d’ailleurs pour qui voudrait faire un stop à la campagne. C’est vraiment très bien). Nadine et Pascal nous ont dit qu’ils commençaient à accueillir des backpackers venant de Colombie et que ces derniers trouvaient cela vraiment super.

Puis un podcast de Voyageurs du Monde m’a persuadée que la Colombie était le pays à visiter rapidement.

Ma fille (19 ans à l’époque) n’a pas été difficile à convaincre. Elle adore l’Amérique latine et une de ses meilleures amies a passé de nombreuses années en Colombie. Les garçons (mon tendre et cher, et notre fils - 17 ans) étaient loin d’être convaincus. Il faut dire que le site du ministère des affaires étrangères était tout sauf rassurant avec plein de rouge partout et un peu de jaune. Mais grâce à un travail de lobbying acharné et astucieux des filles, la promesse de bien rester dans les zones jaunes, ils ont fini par se laisser entraîner. (Entre notre décision et le voyage, le rouge du MAE a été largement réduit).

Restait à établir le parcours. La Colombie c’est grand, très grand. Et les routes sont lentes, très lentes. Pas question de vouloir trop en faire. Notre choix s’est porté sur la région du café, Medellin, Carthagène - parce que Carthagène a beau être très touristique, il nous paraissait difficilement envisageable de passer outre – et la Santander (avec Saint-Gil) que nous avons privilégié au parc de Tayrona (qui nous paraissait davantage semblable à ce que nous avions pu découvrir au cours de nos précédents voyages).

J’ai été guidée dans mes choix par les posts de Intothetrees -merci mille fois à lui- et le blog de Mars56 - merci aussi mille fois. Quelques blogs de voyageurs en tour du monde aussi (peu de sites évoquaient la Colombie à l’époque et j’ai découvert que les blogs de TDM étaient une bonne source d’information dans ce cas).

Pour optimiser les trajets, j’ai choisi une arrivée dans la région du café et un départ de Bogota. Trouver les billets au meilleur prix a été un peu compliqué et j’ai dû me résoudre à passer par un site de grossiste, chose que je ne fais jamais, en croisant les doigts pour ne pas avoir de problèmes. Deux vols intérieurs (Medellin – Carthagène et Carthagène – Bucaramanga) ont permis d’alléger les trajets.

Pour les hôtels, je n’ai pas eu le temps de potasser et puis à vrai dire, il n’y avait pas vraiment de quoi potasser. Je les ai choisis quelques jours à l’avance sur Booking en fonction des différents commentaires. Bien m’en a pris : en réservant depuis l’étranger – et Booking fait partie de « réserver depuis l’étranger », même nous étions déjà en Colombie lors de la réservation – on ne paye pas la TVA.

Au final, le trajet a donné cela.

5 août : trajet Paris - Perreira 6 août : Trajet pour Salamina – Salamina 7 août : Salamina - Balade aux alentours 8 août : Salamina - San Felix-vallée de Samaria 9 août : en route pour Jardin de Antoquia 10 août : Jardin de Antoquia 11 août : Jardin de Antoquia 12 août : trajet pour Medellín - musée de Antoquia 13 août : Guatape 14 août : Medellín - Free tour- Metrocable et Comuna 13 15 août : trajet pour Carthagène - Carthagène 16 août : Carthagène 17 août : Carthagène – les îles de Rosaire 18 août : Carthagène – La Boqu
http://illa 19 août : En route pour San Gil. Non ! pour Bogota ! 20 août : San Gil 21 août : Barichara- Guane 22 août : Rafting à San Gil 23 août : San Gil- Guadalupe 24 août : Guadalupe 25 août : Trajet pour Bogotá 26 août : Bogotá – bike tour – La calendelaria- musée de l’or 27 août : Bogotá - Montserrat- retour sur Paris

Tant pis pour la carte que j'ai faite sur Google earth : je ne peux pas la télécharger, pas assez de pixels!!

Nous avons donc adopté un rythme cool, nous laissant le temps de la découverte mais aussi du repos entre des trajets qui ont été souvent chaotiques voire complétement chamboulés. J’y reviendrai.

Un petit bilan, avant de passer au détail du récit : nous avons tout quatre bien apprécié la Colombie et les Colombiens. Le très bon espagnol de notre fille nous a beaucoup aidé à la fois pour nous débrouiller – mais nous aurions pu faire sans – mais aussi pour échanger avec les gens, notamment dans le bus. Le Colombie est un pays vraiment très chouette et mon seul regret, partagé par au moins un autre membre de la famille (je vous laisse deviner lequel), est de ne pas avoir eu plus de temps pour, par exemple, aller à Mompox ou encore Mongi.

Quant à la sécurité, souvent source d’interrogations, jamais nous ne nous sommes sentis menacés. Bien sûr nous avons pris les précautions d’usage et, dans les villes, Medellín et Bogotá, j’avais choisi pour nous loger les quartiers les plus sécures, peut-être moins typiques mais plus simples à gérer. Evidemment, cela ne veut pas dire qu’il n’y pas de problèmes, mais nous n’avons pas eu de soucis pour voyager. Dans la région du café, nous avons croisé maints militaires dûment armés, un peu impressionnant quand même.
Mais où qu'il est ce truc là (4) English translation pending
by LillieoneFE · 2020-04-13 · 690 replies
Le premier jour English translation pending
by Atila · 2020-04-13 · 963 replies
Nous sommes le xx xx xxxx, jour de votre déconfinement, vous êtes guéri ou n'avez jamais été en contact avec le virus couronné. Qu'imaginez-vous faire en premier ? 😛

(Par simplicité, nous allons partir du principe que votre région est redevenue comme avant à défaut du monde.)

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