Pour les prochaines vacances d'été (soit juillet 2015 en fait), nous prévoyons de partir en Afrique du Sud!
Après avoir lu quelques carnets, guides en ligne et tripadvisor, j'ai fait un itinéraire, à surement améliorer!
Mes grandes interrogations se trouvent surtout aux visites prévues en général, au Drakensberg (que faire en sachant que nous ne sommes pas de grands marcheurs?!) et aussi aux étapes choisies...
Le voyage se déroulerait du 2 juillet au 23.
Dans l'itinéraire ci-dessous, il reste encore deux jours à placer, j'attends vos conseils pour les placés là où il faut! J'ai peut-être pensé à rajouter à Port Elizabeth pour faire Addo Elephant NP mais je ne sais pas si c'est une bonne idée? Ou alors peut-être une nuit en plus au Drakensberg mais alors là il faut que vous m'aidiez avec ce qu'il y a à faire en sachant que nous ne voulons pas aller au Lesotho (donc pas de Sani Pass 😕 ).
Merci d'avance pour votre aide!!🙂
2 juillet : vol
3 juillet : arrivée au petit matin à Johannesbourg, prise en main de la voiture de location et visite guidée de la ville en elle-même l’après-midi (durée 4h00) => Nuit Johannesbourg
4 juillet : visite de Soweto (6 ou 8h) et direction Pretoria => Nuit Pretoria
5 juillet : visite de Pretoria (6h) => nuit Pretoria
6 juillet : Pilgrim’s rest et route du panorama => nuit Graskop (voir http://www.arroukatchee.fr/infos.afrique-du-sud/blyde-river-canyon-carte.jpg)
Et surtout : http://www.graskop.co.za/seedo/
Et la carte bien détaillée ! : http://www.graskop.co.za/trips/regional_map.htm
7 juillet : suite de la route du panorama (blyde river canyon) et arrivée dans la réserve privée : choisir entre Motswari et Sausage Tree Safari Camp => Nuit réserve privée. Avantage pour Motswari : il se trouve dans le Kruger NP (bien que réserve privée !) alors que l’autre non !
8 juillet : Safari dans la réserve privée + repas du midi et départ dans le Kruger => nuit Olifants (dans le parc). Là se pose la question de l’accès Motswari => Parc Kruger, je ne sais pas si on sait passer du Motswari à une route officielle du parc Kruger.
9 juillet : Kruger National Park en voiture => nuit Berg-en-Dal
10 juillet : Journée dans le Swaziland : entre autres, Phophonyane Nature Reserve, Mbabane (la capitale avec les marchés traditionnels), Mantenga Reserve (village & falls), Lobamba (Musée national, maison du parlement) => Nuit Manzini (Au total de la journée, on a 2h45 de route !)
11 juillet : Route + Hluhluwe Game Reserve => nuit Hluhluwe Game Reserve (entrer par l’entrée est dans le parc !) (Entrée du parc = 28€)
12 juillet : Route jusqu’à St Lucia en continuant la fin de la visite du parc et « boat safari » ( http://www.stluciasouthafrica.com/hippo-croc-boat-cruise/ ) de 2 heures pour 48€ à 4 et visite de la ville. => Nuit Durban (3h de route…)
13 juillet : Visite de la région des milles collines d’une durée de 4h30 (http://www.africanangeltours.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=91:valley-of-1000-hills-and-phenzulu-safari-park&Itemid=197 ) (Prix : 103€) Ensuite, visite de la ville de Durban => nuit Pietermaritzburg
14 juillet : Départ vers Howick pour faire un arrêt aux Howick Falls + Royal Natal National Park et autres visites à définir => nuit à Harrismith ou Phuthaditjhaba
15 juillet : Golden Gate Highlands National Park + Bloemfontein => nuit Bloemfontein
16 juillet : journée route => nuit uniondale ou environ
17 juillet : Garden Route National Park + Knysna => nuit Knysna
18 juillet : Cap des Aiguilles => nuit dans le coin
19 juillet : Direction le Cap en passant par Stellenbosch => nuit Le Cap
20 juillet : Le Cap => nuit Le Cap
21 juillet : Le Cap => avion vers 15h00.
22 – 23 juillet : à définir !
Malheureusement je n'ai pas le temps de continuer mes carnets de voyage, beaucoup de travail pour l'instant...
3 juillet : arrivée au petit matin à Johannesbourg, prise en main de la voiture de location et visite guidée de la ville en elle-même l’après-midi (durée 4h00) => Nuit Johannesbourg
4 juillet : visite de Soweto (6 ou 8h) et direction Pretoria => Nuit Pretoria
5 juillet : visite de Pretoria (6h) => nuit Pretoria
Rester 3 jours sur place c'est trop .... tout peux se faire en une journée et demi. Et franchement il n'y pas grand chose à voir ! Soweto la maison de mandela, Jobourg le musée de l'apartheid et Pretoria la maison du gouvernement.
7 juillet : suite de la route du panorama (blyde river canyon) et arrivée dans la réserve privée : choisir entre Motswari et Sausage Tree Safari Camp => Nuit réserve privée. Avantage pour Motswari : il se trouve dans le Kruger NP (bien que réserve privée !) alors que l’autre non !
Je préférerais toujours une réserve intégrée au Kruger !
8 juillet : Safari dans la réserve privée + repas du midi et départ dans le Kruger => nuit Olifants (dans le parc). Là se pose la question de l’accès Motswari => Parc Kruger, je ne sais pas si on sait passer du Motswari à une route officielle du parc Kruger.
Il faut que tu sortes de la réserve et que tu rentres par une des entrées du parc orpen dans ton cas. En principe le repas du midi n'est pas compris le dernier jour.
9 juillet : Kruger National Park en voiture => nuit Berg-en-Dal
Pas possible ou très difficile de faire Olifants Berg En Dal en une journée. Le parc indique 219 km et 8h45 de route, mais ça sera beaucoup plus. La vitesse est limité à 50 km/h et 40 km/h sur les pistes en terre. Sans oublier les arrêts pour observer et les arrêts imprévu, troupeaux de buffles au milieu de la route .....
18 juillet : Cap des Aiguilles => nuit dans le coin
tu peux zapper il n'y a vraiment pas grand chose à voir, par contre tu ne fais pas le cap de bonne espérance qu'il lui est magnifique
22 – 23 juillet : à définir !
Reste un peu plus de temps au cap
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
Cap des Aiguilles : dormir dans les logements du SANPARK , on est isolé sur une plage du bout du monde dans des mignons chalets 100% bois , extra si on aime le coté sauvage de l’océan loin de la ville(penser à faire quelques courses : bois pour se chauffer : il y a un poêle à bois et bien sur bouffe)
Le cap Agulhas est le cap le plus au sud de l'Afrique alors qu'on pense toujours à celui de bonne espérance, il sépare l’océan Indien de l’océan Atlantique d'où la photo .
On a beaucoup aimé cette étape , après être passé à Arniston petit port sympa sur l’océan Indien.
On est parti sur Hermanus après et bien content d'avoir dormi la plutôt qu'en ville mais ceux qui prefere la ville et ses commodités peuvent faire l'impasse
A Knysna , on a dormi dans guesthouse super luxueuse : Villa Afrika , "best choice Tripadvisor" et ca le mérite bien
Donc voilà ce que donne l'itinéraire "corrigé" pour l'instant :
2 juillet : vol
3 juillet : arrivée au petit matin à Johannesbourg, prise en main de la voiture de location et visite guidée de Soweto (4h) => Nuit Johannesbourg
4 juillet : Musée de l’Apartheid et visite Pretoria => Nuit Pretoria
5 juillet : Pilgrim’s rest et route du panorama => nuit Graskop (voir http://www.arroukatchee.fr/infos.afrique-du-sud/blyde-river-canyon-carte.jpg)
Et surtout : http://www.graskop.co.za/seedo/
Et la carte bien détaillée ! : http://www.graskop.co.za/trips/regional_map.htm
6 juillet : suite de la route du panorama (blyde river canyon) et arrivée dans la réserve privée : choisir entre Motswari et Sausage Tree Safari Camp => Nuit réserve privée.
7 juillet : Safari dans la réserve privée + repas du midi et départ dans le Kruger => nuit Satara (dans le parc).
8 juillet : Kruger National Park en voiture => nuit Berg-en-Dal
9 juillet : Journée dans le Swaziland : entre autres, Phophonyane Nature Reserve, Mbabane (la capitale avec les marchés traditionnels), Mantenga Reserve (village & falls), Lobamba (Musée national, maison du parlement) => Nuit Manzini (Au total de la journée, on a 2h45 de route !)
10 juillet : Route + Hluhluwe Game Reserve => nuit Hluhluwe Game Reserve (entrer par l’entrée est dans le parc !) (Entrée du parc = 28€)
11 juillet : Route jusqu’à St Lucia en continuant la fin de la visite du parc et « boat safari » ( http://www.stluciasouthafrica.com/hippo-croc-boat-cruise/ ) de 2 heures pour 48€ à 4 et visite de la ville. => Nuit Durban (3h de route…)
12 juillet : Visite de la région des milles collines d’une durée de 4h30 (http://www.africanangeltours.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=91:valley-of-1000-hills-and-phenzulu-safari-park&Itemid=197 ) (Prix : 103€) Ensuite, visite de la ville de Durban => nuit Pietermaritzburg
13 juillet : Départ vers Howick pour faire un arrêt aux Howick Falls + Royal Natal National Park et autres visites à définir => nuit à Harrismith ou Phuthaditjhaba
14 juillet : Golden Gate Highlands National Park + Bloemfontein => nuit Bloemfontein
15 juillet : journée route => nuit uniondale ou environ
16 juillet : Garden Route National Park + Knysna => nuit Knysna
17 juillet : Cap des Aiguilles => nuit dans le coin
18 juillet : Direction le Cap en passant par Stellenbosch => nuit Le Cap
19 juillet : Le Cap => nuit Le Cap
20 juillet : Le Cap (Visite du Cap de Bonne-Espérance) => nuit Le Cap
21 juillet : Le Cap => Vol retour 15h.
22 – 23 juillet : à définir !
Vol retour le 23 à 15h depuis le Cap !
N'hésitez pas à donner vos avis sur des endroits que je peux faire en plus sur l'itinéraire ou des incohérences trop flagrantes!🙂
Malheureusement je n'ai pas le temps de continuer mes carnets de voyage, beaucoup de travail pour l'instant...
7 juillet : Safari dans la réserve privée + repas du midi et départ dans le Kruger => nuit Satara (dans le parc).
8 juillet : Kruger National Park en voiture => nuit Berg-en-Dal
Cela fait encore beaucoup de route sur une journée ! Pourquoi ne pas dormir plutôt à Crocodile Bridge ?
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
Oui, en effet. A la base je pensais que ça allait allonger fortement le trajet du lendemain dans le Swaziland mais au final ça revient presque au même. 🙂
Donc voici l'itinéraire :
2 juillet : vol
3 juillet : arrivée au petit matin à Johannesbourg, prise en main de la voiture de location et visite guidée de Soweto (4h) => Nuit Johannesbourg
4 juillet : Musée de l’Apartheid et visite Pretoria => Nuit Pretoria
5 juillet : Pilgrim’s rest et route du panorama => nuit Graskop (voir http://www.arroukatchee.fr/...ver-canyon-carte.jpg)
Et surtout : http://www.graskop.co.za/seedo/
Et la carte bien détaillée ! : http://www.graskop.co.za/trips/regional_map.htm
6 juillet : suite de la route du panorama (blyde river canyon) et arrivée dans la réserve privée : choisir entre Motswari et Sausage Tree Safari Camp => Nuit réserve privée.
7 juillet : Safari dans la réserve privée + repas du midi et départ dans le Kruger => nuit Satara (dans le parc).
8 juillet : Kruger National Park en voiture => nuit Crocodile Bridge.
9 juillet : Journée dans le Swaziland : entre autres, Phophonyane Nature Reserve, Mbabane (la capitale avec les marchés traditionnels), Mantenga Reserve (village & falls), Lobamba (Musée national, maison du parlement) => Nuit Manzini (Au total de la journée, on a 2h45 de route !)
10 juillet : Route + Hluhluwe Game Reserve => nuit Hluhluwe Game Reserve (entrer par l’entrée est dans le parc !) (Entrée du parc = 28€)
11 juillet : Route jusqu’à St Lucia en continuant la fin de la visite du parc et « boat safari » (http://www.stluciasouthafrica.com/hippo-croc-boa... ) de 2 heures pour 48€ à 4 et visite de la ville. => Nuit Durban (3h de route…)
12 juillet : Visite de la région des milles collines d’une durée de 4h30 (http://www.africanangeltours.com/...-park&It... ) (Prix : 103€) Ensuite, visite de la ville de Durban => nuit Pietermaritzburg
13 juillet : Départ vers Howick pour faire un arrêt aux Howick Falls + Royal Natal National Park et autres visites à définir => nuit à Harrismith ou Phuthaditjhaba
14 juillet : Golden Gate Highlands National Park + Bloemfontein => nuit Bloemfontein
15 juillet : journée route => nuit uniondale ou environ
16 juillet : Garden Route National Park + Knysna => nuit Knysna
17 juillet : Cap des Aiguilles => nuit dans le coin
18 juillet : Direction le Cap en passant par Stellenbosch => nuit Le Cap
19 juillet : Le Cap => nuit Le Cap
20 juillet : Le Cap (Visite du Cap de Bonne-Espérance) => nuit Le Cap
21 juillet : Le Cap => Vol retour 15h.
22 – 23 juillet : à définir !
Vol retour le 23 à 15h depuis le Cap !
Malheureusement je n'ai pas le temps de continuer mes carnets de voyage, beaucoup de travail pour l'instant...
Le vacances, ce sera au retour au travail avec ce train d'enfer mais je pense que tu le sais déjà!?
Ce projet est très complet, quasi-exhaustif des lieux réputés, mais en 20 jours, entre la route et les activités souhaitées ici et là, vous n'allez pas chômer. Heureusement que vous n'avez pas prévu de marcher!😏
Vous semblez être quatre: des enfants (quel âge)? Plusieurs conducteurs potentiels?
Deux suggestions:
Les 11 & 12/7, si vous venez pour la visite des 1000 Hills, vous devriez éviter Durban qui non seulement ne se "visite" pas en quelques heures mais qui est très encombrée à toute heure et ne dévoilera pas ses attraits en si peu de temps. Pietermaritzburg vous donnera une idée plus lisible d'une ville du KZN.
Les 14 & 15/7, Bloemfontein n'est pas très attrayante pour une étape alors qu'à Ladybrand vous pourriez passer une charmante soirée le 14 au Cranberry Cottage. Certes, vous avancez moins mais le lendemain vouloir rallier Uniondale est trop ambitieux et vous pourriez faire étape le 15 soit à Cradock soit à Graaff-Reinet deux villes typiques du Karoo (sans passer par Bloem mais en coupant par Smithfield, ces routes de traverses sont rapides). Vous rattraperez les trois heures de route le 16.
Les deux propositions ci-dessus ne modifient pas la structure générale du voyage.
Le 18 au soir, restez donc à Stellenbosch pour un bon dîner et l'ambiance unique de cette ville.
Le 18 au soir, restez donc à Stellenbosch pour un bon dîner et l'ambiance unique de cette ville.
+1 notamment Franschhoek , plus petit et plus concentré en belles propriétés viticoles aux noms français
On a fait StellenBosch --> le parc du Cap de bonne esperance --> nuit au Cap dans la meme journée : il faut 2 heures pour rallier Le Cap ) à partir de StellenBosch
Le 11 juillet me semble infaisable, suis je la seule? La route pour Santa Lucia est longue en plus...
Ca me semble impossible de faire une sortie bateau plus la route aller plus la route retour vers Durban le même jour...
On a bien aimé Graff Reinet mais quel dommage de juste y dormir...😊
Anne-Marie
Carnets : Namibie en camping car, l'Est de l'Afrique du Sud, du KTP au Kaokoland en 4x4, la Norvège en hiver 2x, l'Ecosse en hiver, la Namibie avec remorque, l'Islande en camping car en juin, le tout avec 4 enfants, dans le profil https://voyageforum.com/v.f?membre=Caperam;
Bonjour à tous et d'abord, un tout grand merci pour l'intérêt porté à mon poste et votre précieuse aide!
Je vais commencer par parler un peu des voyageurs, ce que j'ai oublié de faire dans mon premier post... Vous m'en excuserez (j'espère! 😛 ): nous sommes 4 : 2 adultes de 49 ans chacun et 2 garçons de 19 et 15 ans au moment du voyage! On sera 3 à avoir le permis mais je ne sais pas si une personne de 19 ans peut conduire une voiture de location en Afrique du Sud.
En ce qui concerne la marche, on aime bien mais des plutôt petites distances (des marches de 7/8 kms maximum 🏴☠️ ).
Comme Voyajou le disait, c'est vrai que l'itinéraire parait serré mais il me reste 3 nuits à placer! (En effet, un retour le 24 est envisageable tout compte fait!).
Mais je ne sais pas où les placer, je voudrais vos conseils pour savoir où rajouter des nuits pour plus profiter de ce qu'il y a à voir dans la région!
En tout cas encore un grand merci à tous pour vos conseils (surtout pour le 11 😊, c'est vrai que c'était assez "chaud" ).
Voici ce que donne l'itinéraire pour l'instant, à encore affiné, j'imagine! :
2 juillet : vol
3 juillet : arrivée au petit matin à Johannesbourg, prise en main de la voiture de location et visite guidée de Soweto (4h) => Nuit Johannesbourg
4 juillet : Musée de l’Apartheid et visite Pretoria => Nuit Pretoria
5 juillet : Pilgrim’s rest et route du panorama => nuit Graskop (voir http://www.arroukatchee.fr/infos.afrique-du-sud/blyde-river-canyon-carte.jpg)
Et surtout : http://www.graskop.co.za/seedo/
Et la carte bien détaillée ! : http://www.graskop.co.za/trips/regional_map.htm
6 juillet : suite de la route du panorama (blyde river canyon) et arrivée dans la réserve privée : choisir entre Motswari et Sausage Tree Safari Camp => Nuit réserve privée.
7 juillet : Safari dans la réserve privée + repas du midi et départ dans le Kruger => nuit Satara (dans le parc).
8 juillet : Kruger National Park en voiture => nuit Crocodile Bridge
9 juillet : Journée dans le Swaziland : entre autres, Phophonyane Nature Reserve, Mbabane (la capitale avec les marchés traditionnels), Mantenga Reserve (village & falls), Lobamba (Musée national, maison du parlement) => Nuit Manzini (Au total de la journée, on a 2h45 de route !)
10 juillet : Route + Hluhluwe Game Reserve => nuit Hluhluwe Game Reserve (entrer par l’entrée est dans le parc !) (Entrée du parc = 28€)
11 juillet : Route jusqu’à St Lucia en continuant la fin de la visite du parc et « boat safari » ( http://www.stluciasouthafrica.com/hippo-croc-boat-cruise/ ) de 2 heures pour 48€ à 4 et visite de la ville. => Nuit Richards Bay
12 juillet : Visite de la région des milles collines d’une durée de 4h30 (http://www.africanangeltours.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=91:valley-of-1000-hills-and-phenzulu-safari-park&Itemid=197 ) (Prix : 103€) + visite Pietermaritzburg => nuit Pietermaritzburg
13 juillet : Départ vers Howick pour faire un arrêt aux Howick Falls + Royal Natal National Park et autres visites à définir => nuit à Harrismith ou Phuthaditjhaba
14 juillet : Golden Gate Highlands National Park + Bloemfontein => nuit Ladybrand
15 juillet : journée route (ne pas passer par Bloemfontein mais par Smithfield !) => nuit Graaff-Reinet
16 juillet : Garden Route National Park + Knysna => nuit Knysna
17 juillet : ? => Nuit entre Knysna et Stellenbosch
18 juillet : Direction le Cap en passant par Stellenbosch => nuit Stellenbosch
19 juillet : Le Cap => nuit Le Cap
20 juillet : Le Cap (Visite du Cap de Bonne-Espérance) => nuit Le Cap
21-22-23: à définir!!
24 juillet : Le Cap => Vol retour 15h.
Vol retour le 24 à 12h depuis le Cap !
🙂
Malheureusement je n'ai pas le temps de continuer mes carnets de voyage, beaucoup de travail pour l'instant...
Tu veux quand même aller à Bloem le 14/7 ou c'est une omission dans la mise à jour?
Ladybrand est avant en venant de l'est.
Pour tes jours disponibles, puisque tu auras un peu été vite dans les réserves précédentes et comme tu le suggérais dans un message précédent, une nuit à Addo (si possible dans le parc pour un drive le soir et un autre le matin en partant) pourrait être une solution de rattrapage (éléphants garantis).
Après la nuit à Graaff Reinet vous faites un tour dans Camdeboo NP attenant (dont Valley of Desolation) puis vous ralliez tranquillement Addo (entrer par le nord, là où se trouve Main Camp et le lendemain, traverser le parc jusqu'à la sortie sud)
Oups! C'est une erreur de ma part pour Bloemfontein, en effet!
J'ai ajouter Addo Elephant dans l'itinéraire (2 nuits ajoutées, il en reste une en réserve) et il reste une nuit à définir entre Knysna et Stellenbosch.
Voilà ce que ça donne:
2 juillet : vol
3 juillet : arrivée au petit matin à Johannesbourg, prise en main de la voiture de location et visite guidée de Soweto (4h) => Nuit Johannesbourg
4 juillet : Musée de l’Apartheid et visite Pretoria => Nuit Pretoria
5 juillet : Pilgrim’s rest et route du panorama => nuit Graskop (voir http://www.arroukatchee.fr/infos.afrique-du-sud/blyde-river-canyon-carte.jpg)
Et surtout : http://www.graskop.co.za/seedo/
Et la carte bien détaillée ! : http://www.graskop.co.za/trips/regional_map.htm
6 juillet : suite de la route du panorama (blyde river canyon) et arrivée dans la réserve privée : choisir entre Motswari et Sausage Tree Safari Camp => Nuit réserve privée.
7 juillet : Safari dans la réserve privée + repas du midi et départ dans le Kruger => nuit Satara (dans le parc).
8 juillet : Kruger National Park en voiture => nuit Crocodile Bridge
9 juillet : Journée dans le Swaziland : entre autres, Phophonyane Nature Reserve, Mbabane (la capitale avec les marchés traditionnels), Mantenga Reserve (village & falls), Lobamba (Musée national, maison du parlement) => Nuit Manzini (Au total de la journée, on a 2h45 de route !)
10 juillet : Route + Hluhluwe Game Reserve => nuit Hluhluwe Game Reserve (entrer par l’entrée est dans le parc !) (Entrée du parc = 28€)
11 juillet : Route jusqu’à St Lucia en continuant la fin de la visite du parc et « boat safari » ( http://www.stluciasouthafrica.com/hippo-croc-boat-cruise/ ) de 2 heures pour 48€ à 4 et visite de la ville. => Nuit Richards Bay
12 juillet : Visite de la région des milles collines d’une durée de 4h30 (http://www.africanangeltours.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=91:valley-of-1000-hills-and-phenzulu-safari-park&Itemid=197 ) (Prix : 103€) + visite Pietermaritzburg => nuit Pietermaritzburg
13 juillet : Départ vers Howick pour faire un arrêt aux Howick Falls + Royal Natal National Park et autres visites à définir => nuit à Harrismith ou Phuthaditjhaba
14 juillet : Golden Gate Highlands National Park => nuit Ladybrand
15 juillet : journée route (ne pas passer par Bloemfontein mais par Smithfield !) => nuit Graaff-Reinet
16 juillet : Camdeboo National Park + Addo Elephant NP => nuit Addo Elephant
17 juillet: Addo Elephant + Port Elizabeth => nuit Port Elizabeth
18 juillet : Garden Route National Park + Knysna => nuit Knysna
19 juillet : ? => Nuit entre Knysna et Stellenbosch
20 juillet : Direction le Cap en passant par Stellenbosch => nuit Stellenbosch
21 juillet : Le Cap => nuit Le Cap
22 juillet : Le Cap (Visite du Cap de Bonne-Espérance) => nuit Le Cap
23 juillet : Le Cap => Vol retour 12h.
24 juillet : à définir !
Vol retour le 24 à 12h depuis le Cap !
🙂
Malheureusement je n'ai pas le temps de continuer mes carnets de voyage, beaucoup de travail pour l'instant...
Tu as rajouté une visite et une nuit à Port Elisabeth pour te venger d'être privé de Durban?😎
C'est un bon choix, je trouve que cette ville est bien plus facile d'accès et plus représentative du pays.
Sinon j'ai trouvé que l'étape Addo Elephant => Knysna était trop longue donc je me suis dit qu'un arrêt à Port Elizabeth pourrait être pas mal, en plus cette ville à l'air d'être assez belle. 🙂
En tout cas un grand merci à toi de m'avoir autant aider! 😉
Malheureusement je n'ai pas le temps de continuer mes carnets de voyage, beaucoup de travail pour l'instant...
1) Nous avons bien apprécié la région de St Lucia, notamment les "Eastern shores" et Cap Vidal, accessibles en voiture. Bref, 2j sur place.
2) Nous projetions aussi de dormir à Knysna. Quand nous sommes arrivés sur place, nous n'avons pas du tout aimé l'aspect général de cette ville. On a donc poussé jusqu'à Wilderness, bien plus tranquille.
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Nous sommes une famille de quatre (avec deux ados de 15 et 17 ans) et préparons un voyage en Afrique du Sud de cet été. J’aimerais recueillir votre avis sur…
Voyager avec des enfants › Afrique du Sud / Namibie · 88 replies
A nouvelle année, nouveau projet. Cet été c’est décidé ce sera la Namibie! Comme j’ai déjà eu l’occasion de l’écrire sur VF ce voyage nous trottait dans la…
Afrique de l'Est et Australe › Afrique du Sud / Swaziland · 4 replies
Voici un petit bilan de 3 semaines de voyage en Afrique du Sud (+ Swaziland) C’est un aperçu de ce qu’il est possible de faire et un modeste point de vue. Il…
Bonjour à tous!
Un an que je languis de l'Afrique du Sud. Notre premier voyage en Août 2025 nous a émerveillés et , chose rare, a fait l'unanimité dans notre petite famille! Touchés en plein coeur, dés notre retour à la maison nous ne parlions que d'y retourner. 😄
Je profite pour dire merci à tous ceux qui m'ont donnés des conseils sur l'itinéraire de ce 1er voyage (boucle Johannesbourg, Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, Ste Lucie, Durban, Drakensberg)! Grace à vous notre voyage s'est déroulé comme dans un rêve!
Depuis j'arrête pas de lire des articles, les discussions sur voyage forum, pour rester encore un peu la tête en Afrique du Sud!
Du coup, ça y est, on a craqué et on vient de prendre nos billet pour janvier 2027 (du 3 au 26 ) avec comme projet de relier Cape Town à Johannesbourg en road trip en 3 semaines environ.
J'ai une ébauche d'itinéraire qui me semble chouette compte tenu de ce que j'ai lu sur les divers forum mais il y a encore des points incertains et c'est là que j'aurais besoin de conseils.
3/01 Arrivée Johannesbourg 23h45
4/01 Vol pour Cape Town , loc voiture. Visite l'aprem
5,6,7/01 Cape Town pour visiter les grands classiques dans le coin (un conseil pour chercher le logement: quel quartier, une adresse?)
8/01 Nuit d'étape avant Oudtshoorn mais où??? (indispensable ou le trajet CT Oudtshoorn se fait bien? Dans ce cas je gagne une journée sur Outshoorn. Je vois plus de 5h de route sur google map.....)
9,10/01 Oudtshoorn (ou 3 nuits ce serait mieux pour bien profiter du coin???)
11,12/01 Knysna, Plettensberg bay (pour avoir le temps de randonner, si vous avez des plans rando je prends!)
13,14/01 Tsitsikamma (toujours pour avoir le temps de randonner - qui connais le must des randos dans le coin?-Mais peut être les 4 nuits dans le coin Knysna Tsistsikamma c'est trop, je me rends pas trop compte)
16,17/01 Addo Eléphant (j'hésite entre 3 nuits à Addo ou 3 nuits à Moutnain Zebra. Vu les carnets, particulièrement celui de Michel sur MZ, j'ai calé 3 nuits à MZ😄....)
18,19,20/01 Moutain Zebra NP
21/01 Cambedoo NP (parce que ça a l'air tellement beau!)
22/01 nuit d'étape (Où?) avant de terminer le voyage soit par 2 ou 3 nuits au Golden Gate NP ou par le Lesotho qui m'attire mais je ne sais pas si c'est faisable en 3 jours pour être le 26 janvier à Johannesbourg en fin de journée.
Voilà pour mon idée de voyage....
J'attends avec impatience vos conseils, idées, remarques....
Tellement hâte d'y être à nouveau!
Just returned from a three-week family trip to Kenya (with three kids aged 10, 12, and 15), and I wanted to share my experience. Forums were super helpful in planning this trip, especially if you want to get a bit off the beaten path.
First off, Kenya is an amazing destination with incredibly friendly and welcoming locals. It was easy to travel around because you can always find someone to give you directions or help you out.
For practical tips—though you’ve probably read this elsewhere—get a Safaricom SIM card when you arrive at the airport so you can pay via M-Pesa (you can top it up with a credit card using the Wise app) and chat with people on WhatsApp. It’ll make your life *so* much easier (booking trains, buses, park entries, etc.) and save you from carrying too much cash or hunting for ATMs.
Also, we went during the first three weeks of July, which wasn’t peak tourist season.
One thing to note: even if you’re using public transport and budget accommodations, Kenya can still be pricey because tourist attractions add up fast—often more expensive than in France. But honestly, it’s usually worth it!
We started our trip with a 5-day homestay. We were welcomed by a really lovely family in Loitokitok with a view of Kilimanjaro right from their garden entrance (just a heads-up: in July, it’s often shrouded in mist!). To find them, search for Greenfield Homestay in Loitokitok. It was a fantastic experience, especially with kids! On top of transfers, they organized several outings with locals: a hike to the Tanzanian border, a motorcycle ride on the foothills of Kilimanjaro, and a day safari in Amboseli. You can book with them eyes closed! For the safari, Anthony (who’s English-speaking) took us around—he’s from the area and knows the park like the back of his hand. Highly recommend him!
Anthony then drove us to Isiolo, a town in the north that’s just starting to open up to tourism. We wanted to see the Monday livestock market, where different ethnic groups gather to buy and sell goats, sheep, and cows (according to Lonely Planet). We were a bit disappointed and wouldn’t recommend it. We also visited Ngare Ndare Forest, which has a stunning waterfall, an interesting walk with an armed ranger (elephants are common), and a suspension bridge for admiring the canopy. Just make sure to let them know you’re coming at least three days in advance to guarantee a ranger will be available. We also did a second safari day in Samburu—it’s a great complement to Amboseli and totally worth it!
Next, we headed to Naivasha (still with Anthony). We found a place on Airbnb (Jasmine House) at Fischerman’s Camp, a campsite we really loved! You’ll spot hippos, monkeys, and beautiful birds there. We organized several activities: a boat ride on the lake to see birds, zebras, and giraffes; a bike safari in Hell’s Gate Park (the campsite is right by the entrance and rents bikes); and a hike to Crater Lake (departing by boat from the campsite), where you walk among zebras, giraffes, and different gazelles. Naivasha is way more touristy than Loitokitok or Isiolo, but there’s no shortage of things to do.
Finally, we spent our last week in Watamu on the coast. To get there, we took an overnight ENA Coach bus from Naivasha to Mombasa, booked via https://www.travler.africa/. It was comfortable and fast, but you’ll need to call the driver to arrange a pickup spot—the restaurant staff at the campsite helped us out with that! Then we took an Uber to Watamu since we had a lot of luggage (we skipped the matatu).
Watamu is nicknamed "Little Italy" because of all the Italian tourists. When we were there (third week of July), it wasn’t peak season yet, so the beaches weren’t cleaned. But we loved the laid-back vibe and how easy it was to get around. We *highly* recommend the marine turtle rescue center—it’s fascinating (especially with kids) and supports a great cause! We were a bit disappointed by the marine park, though—maybe because of the season? There weren’t many fish, and jellyfish kinda ruined the snorkeling. The mangrove tour is also a must-do.
For the trip back to Nairobi, we took the express train from Mombasa. We booked our tickets when we first arrived in Kenya (since payment is only via M-Pesa). The train is reliable and comfortable, and we saw lots of elephants along the way. Just a heads-up: there are *a lot* of security checks, and we almost weren’t allowed to board with our Opinel knife…
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
All in all, we had an amazing trip—so much variety, great encounters, and the magic of safaris!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes.
I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks).
Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate.
Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross.
Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head.
Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes:
Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek?
At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge?
There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls.
I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions.
I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali.
Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha.
I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4.
Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
😊🦁
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
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Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works.
I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!!
I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh…
Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car??
If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali?
Thanks so much for your help…
Best regards
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be:
- Hwange
- Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona)
- Mana Pools
- Harare
- Gonarezhou
- Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work.
I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts.
So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza
Ngenda
Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi
Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas)
Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions:
-Is French still widely spoken?
-Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info?
-Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back?
-Is it possible to go hiking solo?
-Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share.
Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind.
I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south:
14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie
17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza
20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara
22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants
25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere.
28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel.
29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance!
Nicole
Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025