Boucle Ko Chang - Angkor - Phnom Penh - Sihanoukville - Phu Quoc - delta du Mékong
by Lacambuse31
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
J'aimerais beaucoup avoir vos avis experts sur l'itinéraire que j'envisage. J'ai les billets d'avion pour bangkok départ le 31 décembre et retour le 12 mars 2014. Je vois la date du départ approcher à grands pas et je n'arrive pas à concrétiser tout ça. C'est un très gros morceau pour moi, en bossant à coté, c'est pas évident de trouver le temps nécessaire. Je pioche énormément dans ce forum, mais je panique un peu là (et meme beaucoup).
Nous voyageons en couple, nous aimons l'authentique, les petits hotels (ou guest house) simple mais avec SDB et WC dans la chambre et près de la vie (restaurants...). Des visites, oui, mais nous ne sommes pas non plus des acharnés de la culture. Nous adorons la plage, le snork.
Si un endroit nous plait nous pourrons y rester plus longtemps que prévu, vu que je pense qu'on aura largement le temps de voir ce que j'ai prévu. L'air de rien, j'ai passé des heures déjà à étudier ce parcours.
Nous partons à 2 couples (mais nos amis rentrent le 29 janvier)
- 4 jours à Bangkok (hotel réservé)
- 8 jours à ko chang (hotel réservé)
- 3 jours à Ko Mak
- 3 jours à Ko Kood
Jusque là, j'ai à peu près géré.
A partir de là : soit on se plait beaucoup dans ces iles et on y reste jusqu'au départ de nos amis (le 29 janvier) , soit on les amène avec nous jusqu'à Angkor. Dans tous les cas, la suite du voyage serait :
- peut-etre une nuit à Trat (?), puis départ pour Pailin (en bus ou mini bus ?)
- passage frontière, puis taxi pour Battambang (1h30 : 40 dollars) : hotel Royal : 2 ou 3 nuits
- bateau pour Siem Reap
- A Siem Reap : peut-etre Lovely GH 3 jours 4 nuits (nos amis nous quittent si ils sont encore avec nous)
Vu que nousa urons fait le trajet Battambang-Siem Reap en bateau, cela vaut-il le coup de faire l'excursion sur le tonlet Sap vers Kampong ? Oubien verrions nous des choses similaires ?
- Phnum Pen (en bus) 2 jours (achat visa pour le Vietnam ??? comment ? agence ? ) Europe GH
- cela vaut-il le coup d'aller à Krabié ? C'est plus de 7 h de bus...
- Cela vaut-il le coup d'aller à Kampong Cham ? est-ce loin ?
- Ko dach hotel villa Kodach ? 1 nuit
- Sianoukville 2 jours à Otres beach (location scooter sur place ?)
- kampot 2 ou 3 jours ? location scooter (visite de Kep)
j'envisageais l'ile du lapin, mais vu celles que nous allons voir, elle ne présente peut-etre pas plus d’intérêt que ça ...?
- Ko Rong 4 jours (Ko Kong est trop loin ?)
- Kao Rong Saloem ??
- Ha Tien 2 jours
- Phu Quoc 4 jours des idées d'hotels ???
- ragh Gia -- CanTho 1 jour
- Tra Vingh 1 jour
- ben Tre My Tho 1 jour
- Ving Long Cai Be 2 jours ?? On n'a pas forcement envie de changer d'hotel tous les jours ....
- Saigon 2 jours ?
Puis retour à Bangkok soit par avion si vol pas cher sur le moment, soit par bus (est-ce possible ?)
Comment s'organiser dans le delta ? j'ai vu qu'il y a des agences pas chère du tout ...? Nous adorons le bateau...
Mais, j'ai l'impression que tous les départs de ces croisières se font depuis Phnum Pen ...?
Avez-vous des suggestions ? Il y a surement des endroits à voir que j'ai oublié ...? Chau Doc ? (mais pas le mont je ne sais quoi : pas les jambes pour...)
merci d'avance de votre attention et de vos réponses
Helppppppppppp
Bonsoir
juste quelques infos par rapport à un voyage récent :
- Le plus important, le visa pour le Vietnam : à faire à Siem Reap puisque tu y restes plus longtemps qu'à Phnom Penh. Nous n'avons pas eu de mal à trouver une agence qui s'en est occupée, évidemment il faut leur laisser les passeports...
- Les déplacements en bus peuvent être longs au Cambodge : pannes de bus, crevaisons, ... Nous avons eu l'occasion d'essayer les taxis collectifs, cela s'est révélé une bonne option, le prix est à peine plus élevé que le bus et ils permettent un réel gain de temps
- Ha Tien, est ce que cela mérite vraiment 2 jours ?
- Pas de difficulté pour trouver à se loger sur Phu Quoc, dans le quartier indiqué par tous les guides il y a de nombreux bungalows en location, le mieux est de visiter et de faire son choix...
Bons préparatifs !
Bons préparatifs !
Bruno
Bonsoir Bruno,
et merci pour ces judicieux conseils !
Personne d'autre ne peut me conseiller au moins sur une partie de mon trajet . J'ai surtout besoin de conseils pour l' après Phnom Pen.
Pour le delta aussi.
merci d'avance
bjr
sianouk pour les bars boite de nuit et plage sinon tu peux éviter (tu peux faire visa vietnamien a sianouk)
comme tu veux rentrer au vietnam par ha tien tu peux explorer la region kampot et kep
ha tien a la rigueur une nuit mais c tout
phu quoc je connais relativement bien donne moi ton budget et la période a laquelle tu seras là bas et je te donnerai des noms d'hotel
pour rallier phu quoc a can tho tu peux faire en avion en 50 mn pour environ 800000 dongs si tu fais en bateu plus bus c'est mini 7heures de voyage pour environ 400/500000 dongs (traversée en bateaux bof pas beaucoup d'intérêt)
si tu opte pour cette solution essaie de prendre les bus orange futa business (phuong tran) partent a l'heure hyper propre et chauffeur prudent
a can tho essai la guest house mekong logis http://www.mekonglogis.com/2011/ moi j'ai adoré !! les tours guidés sont un peu cher car c'est euros la journée par personne donc si vous etes deux ça fais 50 mais bon franchement c'est bien et si tu sais conduire un scoter 125 c encore mieux
a can tho si tu as les moyens tu peux rallier en croisiere sur le mekong sur le bassac tres bien mais chero , tu pars de can tho pour rallier cai bé , apres midi en croisiere , nuit a bord , matin visite marché flottant mais c'est un peu cher pour le vietnam
donc donne moi ton budget/ nuit pour phu quoc et je te donnerais des point de chute (dis moi aussi si tu veux la clim , si tu vas en mars avril , tres chaud donc la clim est agreable mais ça coute plus cher)
cdlt
kaoua
Bonsoir,
merci pour ton message Kaoua. Notre budget ? Diffficile à dire. Disons que comme nous partons pour 2 mois et demi , nous devons faire des choix. Si il y a des hotels sympas sur la plage avec SDB pour moins de 30 euros ... ce sera très bien. Si il y a du snork sur la plage de l'hotel : alors là, je signe de suite. Si il faut mettre plus , on peut aussi quand même. je ne veus pas passer à coté de quelque chose de super pour 10 ou 20 euros.
nous serons à Phuquoc en février. Tu crois qu'il faut la clim ?
Nous aimons le calme pour dormir , mais etre assez près de la vie , des restau pour ne pas avoir à prendre le scooter (que nous louerons surement) le soir.
Merci encore
Sur Phu Quoc, en restant à Duong Dong c'est du côté de Long Beach que se concentrent les GH et bungalows... Tu peux trouver de quoi manger sur place, mais franchement le soir le mieux est de reprendre le scooter (oui, il est indispensable de le louer pour découvrir l'île !) et d'aller au night market pour les fruits de mer...
et pour 30 € la nuit, tu dois avoir qque chose de vraiment bien !!
Bons préparatifs
Bruno
bjr
fevrier est encore la haute saison a phu quoc donc direct sur la plage pour 30 euros je pense que tu auras du mal ,
dans ces prix essaie le kim phu quoc bungalows qui ont acces direct plage et un petit resto sur la plage , tenus par gentille faamille vietnamienne dont la fille parfaitement francophone est marié avec un français , ancien boulager de surcroit , donc si tu veux des bon croissant le matin ............;(moi je prefer la soupe;-)))))))))😏 dailleurs si tu veux manger une soupe tu tpeux aaller a pho saigon )
pour faire du snork il vaut mieux prendre le scoot et aller se baigner au nord de cua can l'eau y est limpide et tu trouvera des paillottes sympa pour manger
si tu loge au phu quoc kim tu trouvera tout ce qu'il te faut autour pour manger a tous les prix , dans ce quartier bien charmant mais tombé en desuetude depuis deux ans et personne ne comprend pourquoi
le marché de nuit bof bof et rebof , tu peux y aller une fois pour le fun si tu veux
quand je dis haute saison , normalment a cette epoque le gros coup est passé , donc ce n'est pas la foule des plages du sud de la France en saison
la clim moi je la prends je la regle a 26 /degrés ventilation basse et ça procure une agreable fraicheur pas trop basse pour ne pas attraper la creve , mais bon y'en a qui dorme sans (avec la clim en general pas de mostiquessinon c'est ventilateur)
voili voilou
cdlt kaoua
merci à vous deux,
Je prends note des tuyaux.
Je n'ai pas trouvé le site de PhuQuoc Kim, mais les bungalows frontbeach doivent taper à 70 euros; mais bon, je le garde sous le coude.
Bruno, as-tu des noms d'hotels sur la plage moins onéreux ?
Pour aller de Siem reap à Sianoukville : vous me conseillez la route n° 4 ou bien la 3 ? Sachant qu'on compte aller à Kampot de toutes façons.
Bonsoir
désolé je n'ai pas les noms en poche, et les bungalows dont je parle ne sont pas exactement "sur" la plage mais à 100m ou 200m... mais si tu vas là bas tu en visites quelques uns et tu vas trouver celui qui te convient...
Dans un autre genre et dans un autre secteur de l'ile le "Freedomland" est connu (je n'ai pas testé !)
Bonne préparation !
Bruno
bjr
phu quoc kim pas de site mais tu peux booker par là
http://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/phu-quoc-kim-bungalow-on-the-beach.fr.html
si non je peux te récupérer le téléphone et tu téléphone direct (tu peux appeler au vietnam pour 8 centimes d'euro la minute)
cdlt
Bonjour,
Je veux bien le n° de tél, vu que je ne vais rien réserver depuis la France. En effet, nous ne savons meme pas si nous "attaquerons" le Cambodge le 19 janvier (avec nos amis) ou bien le 11 février (sans nos amis). Alors, je ne peux pas savoir quand je serai au Vietnam. De plus, nous nous arrêterons suivant nos coups de coeur.
merci en tout cas de me renseigner si aimablement.
Bonne soirée
PS : sais tu si le jour de l'an chinois (le 31/01) est fété au Cambodge ? pour savoir où il vaudrait mieux que je sois ce jour là...pour profiter des festivités ;-))
Bonjour,
SVP, j'aurais une question : combien coute un visa pour le Vietnam quand on l'achète dans une agence ? Que ce soit à Siem Reap ou à Sianoukville ?
bjr
j'ai mis le n° de phone de kim phu quoc sur tes messaage privés
cdlt
Merci beaucoup Kaoua !
Just in time, je pars dans 3 jours.
Bons voyages à tous
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hi
I’ll be on a cruise on January 11, 2027. We’re stopping in Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My).
I’d love to see something other than the city—anyone have recommendations or a guide for 6-8 people with pickup at the port?
I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
I’ll be on a cruise on January 11, 2027. We’re stopping in Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My).
I’d love to see something other than the city—anyone have recommendations or a guide for 6-8 people with pickup at the port?
I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
Hi there,
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Hi there,
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
Hi there
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!





