Je prépare avec mon compagnon un voyage de 6 mois en Asie, en mode 'road-trip'. Nous atterrissons à Katmandou, au Nepal, puis nous allons au Tibet, puis en Chine (Yunnan et Sichuan), puis dans les pays de la péninsule asiatique.
Nous nous sommes renseignés au sujet des démarches à faire pour entrer au Tibet et avons bien noté qu'il faut un visa tibétain en plus du visa chinois, en passant par une agence de voyage agréée.
Par contre, il me reste une question à laquelle je n'arrive pas à trouver de réponse : est-il possible de visiter le Tibet en entrant en un point d'entrée (Nepal-Tibet) et d'en sortir à un autre point, pour continuer notre voyage (Point Tibet - Sichuan) ? Sur le Guide du Routard de la Chine, il est juste écrit: 'pour les Routards qui souhaitent continuer leur voyage en Chine après le Tibet, ça se complique'.
Merci d'avance pour les informations que vous pourrez me fournir.
Une réponse à votre question ici :
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6119126
(Ce n'est pas un "visa tibétain", mais un "permis Tibet", car le terme visa signifierait que le Tibet serait un pays indépendant, ce que récuse la Chine. De même, la Chine ne délivre pas de visa aux Taïwanais, mais des permis, puisqu'elle revendique la souveraineté sur Taïwan).
Bonjour,
Petit retour d'expérience au cas où cela pourrait être utile :)
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- dans le sens Nepal-Tibet-Chine : on a un permis/visa spécial Tibet qui vous autorise à passer en Chine après mais vous devez quitter le territoire chinois sous une dizaine de jours et refaire un visa à l'étranger (ou à Hong Kong) pour prolonger votre séjour chinois
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De nombreux retours récents ici à Hong Kong de la part de visiteurs qui ont tenté cela et se sont faits débouter. Le bureau de l'immigration chinoise à HK refuse fréquemment les demandes de visa aux touristes français fraîchement sortis de Chine et souhaitant y ré-entrer.
Merci pour ta réponse. Je me permets de citer ici une partie du message que tu as posté sur l'autre sujet. Cela répond (enfin !) à ma question.
Nous avons prévu de faire les démarches administratives pour obtenir le visa chinois avant notre départ, depuis la France. Nous envisageons de demander le permis tibétain une fois que nous serons arrivés à Katmandou.
Sachant cela (nous aurons un visa chinois en bonne et due forme à la 'frontière' Tibet-Chine) penses-tu que nous ne pourrons y rester que 10 jours, comme tu l'avais mentionné ?
Bonjour,
Petit retour d'expérience au cas où cela pourrait être utile :)
[...]
- dans le sens Nepal-Tibet-Chine : on a un permis/visa spécial Tibet qui vous autorise à passer en Chine après mais vous devez quitter le territoire chinois sous une dizaine de jours et refaire un visa à l'étranger (ou à Hong Kong) pour prolonger votre séjour chinois
[...]
De nombreux retours récents ici à Hong Kong de la part de visiteurs qui ont tenté cela et se sont faits débouter. Le bureau de l'immigration chinoise à HK refuse fréquemment les demandes de visa aux touristes français fraîchement sortis de Chine et souhaitant y ré-entrer.
Merci pour ta réponse. Je me permets de citer ici une partie du message que tu as posté sur l'autre sujet. Cela répond (enfin !) à ma question.
Nous avons prévu de faire les démarches administratives pour obtenir le visa chinois avant notre départ, depuis la France. Nous envisageons de demander le permis tibétain une fois que nous serons arrivés à Katmandou.
Sachant cela (nous aurons un visa chinois en bonne et due forme à la 'frontière' Tibet-Chine) penses-tu que nous ne pourrons y rester que 10 jours, comme tu l'avais mentionné ?
Bonjour,
(La mise en garde sur la délivrance de visa à HK n'était pas de moi, mais peu importe)
C'est peut-être un excès de prudence de ma part, mais il faudrait faire des recherches pour s'assurer que les autorités chinoises n'annulent pas un visa pré-existant de 30 jours quand on passe par une agence au Népal pour aller au Tibet, pour le remplacer par un autre plus court (un visa chinois annule systématiquement un autre visa chinois déjà dans le passeport et encore valide). Je pense que non, mais je n'ai pas souvenir de témoignage de voyageur ayant fait ce que vous proposez (qui me semble être la bonne solution).
Attention : même les agences de voyages agréées pour délivrer le permis Tibet recommandent de ne pas mentionner le projet d'aller au Tibet dans la demande de visa chinois. Cela parait un peu absurde, puisque aller au Tibet n'a rien d'illégal en soi, mais il flotte une rumeur (légende urbaine ??) de refus de visa dans ce cas.
Donc déclarez un itinéraire totalement bidon, avec une réservation d'hôtel annulable sans frais, ce qui est très banal et ne pose aucun problème par la suite - je l'ai fait plusieurs fois.
OK, merci encore.
Tu connais des endroits où je pourrais obtenir cette info (le permis tibétain annule t-il les visas chinois) ? car j'ai contacté les consulats, ambassade, office national du tourisme tibétain... et la réponse la + claire que j'ai eue est la tienne.
Mais on va faire comme ça : demande de visa chinois depuis la France, couvrant la période où nous serons au Tibet + la période où nous serons en Chine, sans mentionner notre passage au Tibet.
Et on croisera fort les doigts pour que le permis tibétain n'annule et ne remplace pas le visa chinois obtenu préalablement.
Tu connais des endroits où je pourrais obtenir cette info (le permis tibétain annule t-il les visas chinois) ? car j'ai contacté les consulats, ambassade, office national du tourisme tibétain... et la réponse la + claire que j'ai eue est la tienne.
Non, mais erreur d'interprétation : le permis Tibet n'annule jamais un visa chinois (puisqu'il faut avoir les deux pour pénétrer au Tibet). Le permis Tibet est un document séparé qui doit être restitué par le guide aux autorités au départ du Tibet Le risque que j'évoque, c'est que les demandes faites à partir du Népal se traduisent systématiquement par la délivrance d'un visa qui serait de courte durée, même si on en avait déjà un de 30 jours.
De toute façon, que l'on arrive du reste de la Chine ou d'ailleurs, il est prudent d'avoir un plan B, la Chine pouvant fermer le Tibet aux étrangers (et expulser ceux qui s'y trouvent déjà) sans le moindre préavis.
OK, j'ai compris.
Notre plan B c'est de faire Katmandou Chengdu en avion, et de sauter l'étape Tibet si nécessaire.
Bien obscur en tout cas le Tibet, c'est vraiment difficile d'avoir des infos.
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I checked the embassy’s website, but that info is missing.
Bonjour
J'arriverai à Seoul le 18 novembre apres avoir passé un petit mois en Inde.
Savez vous si j'aurai des documents supplementaires à remplir en dehors de la e arrival card?
Par avance merci pour vos conseils.
Hi everyone,
I have to leave for Perth, Australia in a week, for 7 days, and I couldn’t get my international driver’s permit due to processing and delivery delays.
The information I’ve found about whether an international permit is required is contradictory. Some sources say you need one, others say you don’t.
Could anyone let me know if an international driver’s permit is necessary to rent a car in Australia (Perth), or if a French license is enough for a 7-day rental?
I’m a bit embarrassed because I need to travel to Quebec from February 27th to March 13th. I’m a regular visitor to Canada—this will be my 10th trip since 1997, plus a year as a permanent resident (2000–2001) and a cross-country run from Vancouver to Halifax in 2011. So, I’m definitely not a terrorist!
But since our last trip in July 2015, they’ve introduced this eTA thing. Seems more like a way to make money than to actually secure Canada, if you ask me, but anyway, that’s not the point.
I applied for an eTA for myself, my wife, and our two kids. They all got approved within hours, but not me! I was asked to create a GC key and then an IRCC account, which I did. Normally, you get news within 72 hours, but since Monday, January 15th, nothing!
In the "message" section of the account, it says "explanation letter (required)" with a deadline of January 25th, but I can’t find any explanation anywhere—despite searching the Canadian government website and Google. No links, nothing!
I’ve emailed them but haven’t heard back yet. I’m thinking of calling the Canadian embassy in Paris tomorrow. Even though I’m not stressing yet, it’d be a bummer if everyone else got to go without me!
If anyone’s had this issue before or knows what this explanation letter is about, I’d love to hear more.
hi there
I’m heading to Seoul in September, and to do that I need to get a travel authorization that we apply for through K-ETA....... turns out I can (barely, I admit) fill out the form up to the address of our "stay location," but every address I’ve entered has been rejected by the system. I’ve tried my hotel, the Lotte Hotel (which is well-known in Seoul), the airport—basically, I’ve entered at least 20 addresses, all rejected....
So, to anyone who’s successfully gotten the authorization, could you tell me which address you used to get that "elusive" approval?...
Question for those who’ve done it:
In theory (French national), I’m visa-exempt for a 30-day tourist stay, but on France Diplomatie it says on this page
Hi there,
I know there are similar topics here and elsewhere, but they’re a few years old, and I need an up-to-date answer to make sure I don’t throw over 1000 € out the window. Thanks for your patience.
I’m planning a trip from France to Alberta/British Columbia, and I’m unsure about which bank card to use for the security deposit with the rental company (I’m thinking of going with AVIS).
I contacted Avis Canada, and they told me a credit card is absolutely required. I asked my bank for a credit card (a *real* credit card), but they only offered me a deferred debit card.
My question: For a rental with Avis Canada, is a Gold International Mastercard deferred debit card usable for the security deposit needed to finalize the rental? Is the "CREDIT" label enough? (Some cards say "CREDIT" and others say "CARTE DE CREDIT"—seems minor, but it’s actually a big deal in how the card works.)
I’ve seen conflicting info everywhere I look... My bank says it’s *usually* okay (the deferred debit card), while Avis Canada insists it *must* be a credit card, not debit—even when I mention the deferred debit card.
I know the whole credit card concept is already confusing, and on top of that, some sites say a deferred debit card counts as a credit card, while others say it doesn’t.
Thanks to anyone who can share a recent experience!
Have a great day
Hi there,
I’m heading to Senegal in January for a month and was wondering if I just need my French driver’s license or if I should get an international permit?
Thanks!
JL
Hi,
I’m bringing Seresta, an anxiolytic (tranquilizer) from the benzodiazepine family,
to help me sleep.
I’ll have the prescription with me.
Will this be a problem at customs, and do I need to declare it?
Same question for antibiotics?
Thanks a bunch!
I’m heading to Laos next spring, but I have a question about the Thai arrival/departure form. I’ll be flying PAR-BKK, then taking the train to Laos (so exiting Thailand), and later re-entering Thailand by train to catch my return flight. Do I need to fill out two forms in this case?
Hi there,
I have a 9-seater passenger vehicle that I use for my business in Paris, transporting people.
I’m planning to go to Algeria with my family.
The vehicle registration lists my company as the owner.
Can I get a TPD (Temporary Admission Document)?
Will I need a KBis extract or a power of attorney?!?
Thanks for your help.
Worst case, I can add my personal name as a co-owner on the registration, but that would be a real shame!
Hi,
I’m writing to ask for some info—I’ve heard that you **must** have travel insurance to land in Zanzibar.
What’s the process, and which insurance should I get?
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Best,
Seb
Hi, are there any travelers who’ve recently crossed the border between Karakalpakstan (Uzbekistan) and Beineu in Kazakhstan?
It was closed for a while.
Thanks for any info!
I bought a one-way flight (Ryanair) and a return flight (EasyJet) to spend a week in Morocco in April.
My passport expires 3 weeks after the return date.
Some websites say the passport must be valid for 3 months at the time of entry.
However, it will still be valid both on entry and return, but its validity will only be 1 month at the time of entry (and 3 weeks on the return date, everything prepaid).
It's an individual family trip.
The consulate can't give me an answer—they're still looking into it (really!)
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht).
This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea?
Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast!
Cheers,
Bruno.
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident.
I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia.
For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France?
Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted.
Is this real or just a hoax?
Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received.
Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding?
Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival?
Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient?
Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month.
I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival?
How long do the formalities take on the spot?
Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
