Voila j'aimerai partir en Namibie en juillet aout avec un détour par le Bostwana et les chutes victoria, nous sommes 3, moi et mes 2 enfants 16 et 13 ans et partirons en 4*4 avec tente sur le toit. pourriez vous me donner votre avis sur l'itinéraire que j'envisage, n'est il pas trop chargé? et pouvez vous aussi me donner votre avis sur les temps de trajet entre les étapes.
jour 1 : windhoek
jour 2 : Windhoek - mariental
jour 3 : Mariental - fish river canyon
jour 4 : Fish river - maltahohe ( le détour par aus est il intéressant) la distance n'est elle pas trop longue? combien de temps?😠
jour 5 : maltahohe - sossusvlei - deadvlei combien de temps entre maltahohe et sossusvlei pour voir les dunes au lever du soleil?
jour 6 : sossusvlei - canyon de kuiseb - walvis bay
jour 7 : walvis bay (croisière et vallée welwitschias)
jour 8 : walvis bay - swakopmund - twyfelfontein (détour par spitzkoppe?)
jour 9 : twyfelfontein - sesfontein - opuwo est ce faisable en 1 jour ou vaut il mieux s'arreter à sesfontein?
jour 10 : opuwo - epupa falls OU sesfontein epupa falls selon jour 9 qu'en pensez vous?
jour 11 : epupa falls
jour 12 : epupa falls - etosha
jour 13 : etosha
jour 14 : etosha
jour 15 : etosha - rundu combien de temps et que faire à rundu?
jour 16 : rundu - kongola
jour 17 : Kongola - parc de chobe
jour 18 : chobe
jour 19 : victoria falls
jour 20 : victoria falls
jour 21 : victoria falls - mamili parc
jour 22 : mamili parc - rundu ou grootfontein selon le temps
jour 23 : rundu ou grootfontein - otjiwarongo ou okahanja selon jour 22
jour 24 : retour a windhoek
merci de me faire part de vos avis et de me conseiller d'après vos expériences et vos préférences.😎
Tout cela est bien dense....Mais que c'est beau...
Jette un oeil sur mon carnet de voyage, j'ai fait presque pareil...tu auras une idée des temps de parcours et des quelques bonnes adresses pour camper.
Deja pour Fish River, cela est trop court car tu arriveras début d'après midi et il te faudra repartir tôt le matin donc tu le fais quand le canyon ? a moins de rester sur les premiers spots ce qui est dommage.
Ensuite Aus : rien a voir si ce n'est faire le plein.
Voir les dunes au lever du soleil et du haut des dunes veut dire partir de Sesriem à 05H15-30 donc dormir sur place. A mon sens pas assez de temps sur place.
Etosha Rundu : une demi journée (j'ai fait Etosha-bagani en une petite journée).
Chobe une journée c'est mini. D'autant plus que pour aller aux Chutes par toi même, bien que la distance est courte, il te faut passer les frontières et le fleuve. Le Bac de Kazungula peut prendre plusieurs heures, c'est pour cela que j'ai fait l'inverse : d'abord les Chutes (en passant la frontière par le pont à Sesheke) puis Chobe par Kazungula (plus rapide dans ce sens)
En fait j'ai eu le même dilemne que toi car je voulais aller de Fish River à Victoria Falls. J'ai du faire une coupe franche dans le periple : Pas de Kaokoland qui d'après ce que j'ai lu demande au moins 4-5 jours pour vraiment s'en impregner (Une autre fois peut être..)
Je pense que tu surestimes la moyenne horaire des temps de trajets
compte 80 km/H de moyenne (sans les arrêts) pour ne pas avoir de mauvaises surprises. Tu ne depasses pas les 100-110 de pointe sur les gravels roads guere plus sur les routes. De plus Il fait nuit très tôt. Il faut être dans ton camp avant 18H00. Une bonne heure est nécessaire pour déplier le bivouac, enlever un peu de poussiere, preparer le repas et prend une douche salvatrice.
Apparement pour le Kaokoland c'est bien plus bas du fait des routes (pistes) en mauvais états
Encore une chose : Pour Etosha, Sesriem, Chobe, Victoria Falls et Même Fish River :
Reserve vite les places dans les Campsites
Sur la même durée l'an dernier, on n'a été ni jusqu'au Fish River Canyon, ni jusqu'à Victoria Falls. Et on a déjà l'impression d'avoir beaucoup beaucoup roulé (la famille est pourtant rodée aux grands trajets / raids).
Je pense donc que ton programme est trop chargé.
Tu as un lien vers notre carnet de voyage en bas si tu veux (je viens de m'apercevoir que toutes mes photos ont disparu, l'hébergeur d'images ne répond plus 🙁🙁).
Pas de temps prévu au Fish River Canyon ? Beaucoup de km pour juste jeter un œil… Maltahöhe - Sossüsvlei : 2/3 heures de gravel road. Tu veux les faire de nuit avant le lever du jour ??? Sossüsvlei - Walvis : tu peux faire Welwitschia drive sur le trajet sans problème. Walvis : si tu es pressé, tu fais la croisière le matin et l'après-midi, tu rejoins Spitzkoppe pour la nuit --> une journée gagnée à recaser ailleurs (Sossüsvlei par ex). Si tu dois faire Twyfelfontain - Epupa en 2 jours, Sesfontein me semble une étape plus équilibrée Etosha : 3 nuits, c'est peut-être beaucoup avec tout ce que voulez voir et faire : un jour à gagner ici Etosha - Rundu : une petite journée - Que faire à Rundu : les course, à part ça… Bof.
Après, je ne connais pas…
Bonjour
Quand je pense qu'en 14 jours nous n'avons fait qu'une infime partie de ce que vous avez prévu... et nous avons parfois regretté de ne pas passer plus de temps dans les endroits traversés !
Faire la Namibie au pas de course, en avalant les km de pistes... quel dommage !!
merci beaucoup pour tes conseils, j'ai lu ton carnet de voyage, il est génial et je pense que je vais m'en inspirer pour refaire un peu mon itinéraire, si tu as d'autres conseil n'hésite pas😏
tu as raison le programme est chargé mais difficile de faire un choix, merci pour tes conseils, je vais en tenir compte, j'ai lu ton carnet, il est super, dommage que les photos n'y soient plus, votre aide à tous m'est précieuse pour mieux organisé mon voyage😛
Salut,
oui comme les autres je pense que tu veux trop en faire
tu disposes de 24 jours jours ce qui est plutôt bien
a ta place (mais malheureusement je n'y suis pas), je zapperai toute la partie sud de la namibie qui fait faire beaucoup de km pour pas grand chose tel que tu l'as conçu, pour me consacrer plus au nord et au botswana
puisque tu vas à Epupa, pourquoi ne pas passer un peu plus de temps dans le kaokoland ? puros ?
1 seul jour dans le Chobe !! un des plus beau parc d'afrique ! 2 ou 3 jours mini
1 jour suffit aux chutes Victoria
pourquoi repasser par la même route pour revenir à Windhoek ? tu pourrais passer par maun et faire une petite journée mokoro dans le delta de l'okavango et le survol si t'as 2 sous à dépenser 😉
pareil pour la caprivi, rundu rien à faire, kongola ?
faut stopper à Shakawe soit pour faire un petit tour dans le panhanddle de l'Okavango soit pour faire le parc mahango, ou les 2 sur 2 jours
allez bonne préparation, c'est toi qui décide finalement 😉
😕je me demande si je ne vais pas éliminer le fish river canyon car finalement vous avez raison, ça prend peut être trop de temps, dommage il parait qu'il est super mais il faut faire un choix si on veut pas trop courrir et du coup tout louper. Je partirai directement de windhoek à sossusvlei, à voir, comme çà je pourrai rajouter du temps ailleurs(peut etre chobe et sessriem, je sais pas encore) et je vais revoir pour le retour des chutes.
En tout cas tout vos conseils me sont précieux car je me rend compte que le programme est vraiment chargé.
Pas de probleme pour les conseils (modestes..). Je pense effectivement que tu dois "squeezer" soit la descente sur Fish River Canyon, soit l'incursion dans le Kaokoland.
Ce périple combine à la fois les découvertes des magnifiques paysages et l'approche de la vie sauvage. A toi de doser le temps à y consacrer en fonction de tes goûts.
Le parc de Chobe mérite vraiment au moins deux jours et une nuit dedans pour garder en mémoire une vrai nuit de bivouac en immersion sauvage : avec le gros troupeau de buffles que tu entends beugler, le troupeau d'Elephants qui se baladent devant ton camp et les babouins maraudeurs et chapardeurs qui te tournent autour...
Pense aussi à de temps en temps faire une halte en dur (B&B, hôtel ou lodge) parce que après une demi-douzaine de nuits en camps d'affilées, un peu de confort "comme chez nous" fait du bien. A moins que tu ne sois rompu aux bivouacs et camps itinérants.
😏je suis en train de refaire l'itinéraire en éliminant la partie sud vers fish river, cette fois c'est décidé malgré quelques regrets, je voulai savoir si windhoek/ sessriem en 1 journée, c'est faisable. Je remettrai le nouveau itinéraire la semaine prochaine avec tous vos bons conseils.
Apparemment, tu as déjà pris la décision de ne pas aller à Fish River. Je pense effectivement que c'est préférable, pour laisser plus de temps aux autres endroits.
Personnellement, je pense que ça vaut vraiment le coup de rester une journée pleine à Sesriem, en dormant sur place 2 nuits, pour prendre tout votre temps dans les dunes.
Rundu n'a aucun intérêt. Mieux vaut essayer d'aller à Kongola d'une seule traite, en partant de Etosha (Namutomi) après le drive du matin.
Par contre, pour les chutes Victoria, inutile d'y rester 3 jours. Mieux vaut inverser les jours avec Chobe, qui est un parc extraordinaire à cette période.
Bonne route !
voila mon nouvel itinéraire après lecture de vos carnets de voyages et vos conseil,
jour 1 : arrivée windhoek😎
jour 2 : windhoek - sessriem
jour 3 : sessriem( sossusvlei, deadvlei)
jour 4 : sessriem (peut être survol en montgolfière le matin selon prix)
jour 5 : sessriem - walvis bay (vallée des welwitschias)
jour 6 : walvis bay (croisière)
jour 7 : walvis bay - twyfelfontein
jour 8 : twyfelfontein le matin peintures rupestres, tuyaux d'orgue et forêt pétrifiée- trajet sesfontein l'après midi est ce possible?
jour 9 : sesfontein - epupa falls
jour 10 : epupa (visite d'un village himba avec guide) ou peut on trouver un guide ?
jour 11 : epupa - ferme de guépard aux environs d' etosha
jour 12 : environ d' etosha ou peut on trouver une ferme hébergeant des guépards aux environs d'étosha et si vous l'avez fait est ce intéressant ou vaut il mieux aller directement dans le parc d'étosha ?
jour 13 : etosha
jour 14 : etosha
jour 15 : etosha - divundu
jour 16 : divundu - victoria falls
jour 17 : victoria falls ( visite des chutes côté zambie et zimbabwe)
jour 18 : victoria falls le matin (pour survol des chutes en hélico) ou faut il se renseiger ? - trajet parc de chobe l'après midi combien de temps, est ce possible en une après midi ?
jour 20 : chobe
jour 21 : chobe
jour 22 : chobe - kongola combien de temps ?
jour 23 : kongola - grootfontein
jour 24 : grootfontein - windhoek
jour 25 : départ 🙁
le passage au bostwana est il facile ?
qu'est ce que je devrais réserver à l'avance sachant que je suis seule avec mes 2 enfants et que je n'ai pas envie de me retrouver en camping sauvage ? en plus je parle très mal anglais alors y a t il des agences de réservation qui parle français ?
encore une question : le budget approximatif avez vous une idée ??
voila, çà fait beaucoup de questions !!!😉
Pour ce que je connais, je dirais qu'il est impératif de réserver à l'avance le camping de Sesriem et le camping de Idaha à Chobe, si vous n'allez pas en lodge. Idem pour les "excursions" : survol Namib, croisière à Walvis Bay, survol des chutes, ...
Etosha c'est mieux, mais probablement pas indispensable.
Mon avis est que si tu veux éviter les galères, il vaut surement mieux tout booker à l'avance. On peut tout de suite être amené à rouler longtemps (même si cela ne correspond pas à des distances énormes) s'il n'est pas possible de rester à l'endroit initialement visé. Encore plus si tu parles très mal anglais, car tu trouveras pas beaucoup de gens qui parlent français ! 🙂
Avec le Web et un téléphone, la plupart des choses peuvent se faire en direct
Pour Vic Falls / Kasane dans la journée avec visite de Chobe dans l'après midi, pas de souci : il y a environ 70 kms et le passage de douane ne prend pas plus de 1/4 d'heure.
Chobe / Kongola, il doit y en avoir pour 3 heures. C'est de la route goudronnée sur tout le trajet.
Pour le budget, a 3, j'imagine que vous allez prendre un 4x4 4 places avec 2 tentes. A la louche, vu qu'il y a pas mal d'excursions, je dirais aux alentours de 2500 € par personne tout compris (y compris l'avion), un peu plus ou un peu moins, uivant que vous êtes 100% camping ou pas
Personnellement j'y ai passé la nuit et fait la visite.
Les pour : emplacements de camping sympas, et isolés. Le Giraphon en liberté qui t'accueille et vient de quemander une caresse
L'approche de 3 Guepards "Domestiques" que tu peux caresser (super pour les enfants)
L'approche d'une douzaine de guépards semi sauvages qui vivent dans un très très grand enclos (ceux là tu ne les touches pas)
Les contre : possibilité de surpeuplement lors de la visite.
Accueil jugé parfois "rustre" par d'autre voyageur, ce qui n'a pas été mon cas.
Concernant le passage Namibie==> Zambie par le pont de Sesheke : environ une petite heure à la frontière (il faut payer plein de trucs)
Concernant le passage Zambie==> Botswana par le Bac de Kazungula, personnellement j'ai mis une heure et demi environ avec l'aide d'un passeur pour quelques euros. (Je le raconte dans mon carnet de voyage 2ème partie) C'est un peu la roulette, tout dépend du monde présent au moment où tu y es. Si tu ne prend pas l'aide d'un passeur, cela risque d'être beaucoup plus long. En tout cas le même Bac dans l'autre sens est bien plus long car il y a plus de flots touristiques dans ce sens. (Pas plus de 2 à 3 4x4 par Bac et par traversée)
J'ai fait le trajet Victoria Falls==> Parc de Chobe (Ihaha camp) en une journée apres avoir fait un survol des chutes en ULM (meilleurs sensations que l'hélico) Mon rendez vous pour le vol était à 07H15 du matin et dès le retour au camp nous avons replié et partis de suite pour Chobe. Il ne faut pas trainer car : le passage du bac est aléatoire et la piste (sable mou) du parc de Chobe pour aller de l'entrée du parc au camp de Ihaha se fait en plus d'une heure, d'autant plus que tu ne peux t'empecher de t'arreter pour admirer la faune.
Camping sauvage fortement déconseillé. Bien parler l'anglais est un gros plus...révise ou prend des cours 😉
merci beaucoup pour vos renseignements, maintenant que l'itinéraire est fait, il va falloir passer aux réservations puisqu'apparemment il est mieux de tous réserver à l'avance quand même si je veux pas trop galérer, en effet nous allons tout faire en camping alors j'ai plus qu'a m'y mettre en esperant qu'il comprenne mon anglais!!!🤪😄
Effectivement, ce sera beaucoup mieux comme ça !
Tu as plusieurs agences tenues par des français à Windhoek (Tourmaline, Namikala…).
Nous étions passés par Tourmaline, bon contact, et c'est bien plus facile et ça ne coûte pas plus cher que de faire les réservations toi-même. C'est bien d'avoir un contact francophone sur place au cas où…
Le passage Namibie/Botswana se fait sans problème, mais il ne faut pas oublier de le préciser pour le loueur de voiture : il doit faire des démarches auprès de la police et te fournir un papier pour la voiture.
Il faut de la chance pour voir des fauves à Etosha. Nous n'en avons pas vu, du coup nous avons un peu regretté de ne pas être passés à la ferme des guépards. Vas-y !
pour tout réserver il faut passer par un T.O et je me suis renseigner, il ne réserve pas toujours ou on veut, je crois que je vais réserver juste les camping d'Etosha, Sesriem et ihaha dans le parc de chobe, en plus cà nous donnera plus de liberté, qu'en pensez vous ? et faut il aussi réserver les excursions comme Mola Mola excursion mer et sandwich harbour, vol en montgolfière ou vol au dessus des chutes (ulm ou hélico je sais pas encore)et surtout ou je peux réserver les campings et les excursions? Ericarole, j'ai noté tes conseils pour le passage au zimbabwe, assez astucieux!😉
Afrique de l'Est et Australe › Namibie · 49 replies
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Afrique de l'Est et Australe › Namibie · 58 replies
Le projet "Namibie" avance. Nous sommes donc 6 adultes aux alentours de 26 ans (aie le nombre pour la location!) et nous partons du 3 au 28 octobre. Nous…
Nous sommes une famille de 5 personnes, avec des enfants de 16/13 et 13 ans, Nous partons du 11 juillet au 4 août 2009, nous sommes passés par Tourmaline pour…
March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Hi there,
I’m considering camping in Nyungwe Park with my family (2 adults, 2 kids) at Uwinka campsite. Problem: the park rents the tent but without any gear (mattresses, blankets). We don’t have a car. Is it possible to rent or buy mattresses and blankets near the park, please?
Thanks for your help
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hello,
We’re planning a route from Maun to Kazane and Victoria Falls for May 2027 in a Toyota Hilux 4x4, staying in lodges (no camping). Here’s the rough outline:
- Maun: Arrival likely from Johannesburg, 2 nights
- Khwai: 2 nights
- Return to Maun
- Need to decide on a stop between Maun and Sepopa?
- Sepopa: 2 nights
- Cross into Namibia: Bagani, 2 nights
- Kongola: 2 nights
- Katima Mulilo: 2 nights
- Kasane: 3 or 4 nights
- Victoria Falls: 1 or 2 nights
- Return to France from Kasane or Victoria Falls
What’s the road condition like between Maun and Khwai? The stop names are approximate based on accommodations.
Thanks for any feedback on this plan!
Ailleurs 64
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
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We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
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Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works.
I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!!
I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh…
Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car??
If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali?
Thanks so much for your help…
Best regards
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be:
- Hwange
- Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona)
- Mana Pools
- Harare
- Gonarezhou
- Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work.
I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts.
So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza
Ngenda
Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi
Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas)
Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions:
-Is French still widely spoken?
-Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info?
-Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back?
-Is it possible to go hiking solo?
-Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share.
Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind.
I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south:
14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie
17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza
20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara
22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants
25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere.
28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel.
29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance!
Nicole
Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers.
We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering:
Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later)
Pretoria – 2 days
Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day
Acornhoek – 1 day
Letaba – 2 days
Lobamba – 2 days
Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days
Cape of Good Hope – 1 day
Stellenbosch – 1 day
Hermanus – 1 day
Mossel Bay – 2 days
Oudtshoorn
Wilderness – 2 days
Knysna
Port Elizabeth – 2 days
Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions.
We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!