Maroc en 4x4 "raid berbères" et traversée en bateau Sète-Tanger
by Ionie
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjours à tous,
Ma prochaine destination : le Maroc en 4X4 par l’organisateur EUROMER.
« RAID BERBERES » 2° Edition.
Pouvez vous me donner des informations sur la traversée en bateau de Sète à Tanger.
Si quelqu’un a participé au « RAID BERBERES » 1 Edition de l’année 2006 ce serai super de pouvoir communiquer avec lui pour de plus amples renseignements.
Merci.
Salut,
Je sais que c'est +ou- 400euros par passager pour la traversée 2 nuits et 1 journée en pension complète sur le bateau et dans une cabine de deux personnes...
comme la descente jusque algesira par l'autoroute coute cher aussi, nous partirons par sète en mai aussi.
ainsi nous arriverons reposé car nous voyageons par les pistes en duo sur un trail...... a+
si tu veux d'autres renseignements ...n'hésite pas 😉
voyage entre méditerrannée et atlantique...
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De préférence prendre le Biladi pour la traversée, prix par passager la meilleure classe 105 euros, voiture 208 euros, éviter de prendre le Marrakech qui a souvent des misères machines.
J'ai fait plusieurs fois la traversée, repos total, arrivée Tanger vers 10 h, sortie de Tanger + ou - 13 h. D'ailleurs, j'embarque le 27.1.
Contacter CLB Liner à Séte au 04 67 80 75 40.sauf si vous avez l'ensemble des prestations par Euromed évidemment.
Je vais aller voir sur Internet par curiosité car d'habitude, je pars avec la moitié d'un 4/4, c'est à dire des 2 CV.
Bon Raid.
Gdpuces
J'ai fait plusieurs fois la traversée, repos total, arrivée Tanger vers 10 h, sortie de Tanger + ou - 13 h. D'ailleurs, j'embarque le 27.1.
Contacter CLB Liner à Séte au 04 67 80 75 40.sauf si vous avez l'ensemble des prestations par Euromed évidemment.
Je vais aller voir sur Internet par curiosité car d'habitude, je pars avec la moitié d'un 4/4, c'est à dire des 2 CV.
Bon Raid.
Gdpuces
slt
SETE / TANGER / SETE (aller /retour )
2 pax...........................................420 € cabine double et repas compris au resto 1 vehicule.....................................376 € total.... 796 € 2 nuits a bord
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toy
SETE / TANGER / SETE (aller /retour )
2 pax...........................................420 € cabine double et repas compris au resto 1 vehicule.....................................376 € total.... 796 € 2 nuits a bord
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toy
le désert n'a de sens que si l'on décide d'y séjourner, de l'écouter, sinon il ne se livre pas, ne donne rien, garde son mystère.
😏 Merci à tous pour vos réponses !...
Nous partons (normalement, si rien ne s'y oppose) la quatrième semaine du mois de mars avec notre 4x4 (un suzuki jimny 😉).
Notre expédition, qui, nous espèrons ne va pas se transformer en "mission pas possible", nous coute 1070 €uros par personne (tout compris, sauf le carburant pour le véhicule ainsi que pour le conducteur 🤪et son copilote😛). La "bonne nouvelle" est qu'il est probable que nous fassions la traversée Sète-Tanger sur le Marrakech (cela risque de nous laisser le temps de faire des ronds dans l'eau 😕).
Par contre, si quelqu'un connait un "ancien berbère" ayant fait le premier RAID BERBERE avec Euromer en 2006 qu'il n'hésite pas à le coincer et à le faire parler (coute que coute) pour qu'il nous donne des informations sur son expédition (si, il s'en souvient).
😕 Un de nos soucis, est que le petit jimny (diesel) ne sera pas sevré, il n'aura qu'un mois, et il risque de ne pas apprécier le changement de régime si on le nourri avec du gasoil Marocain. En plus, nous ne savons trop si nous devons lui changer les chaussettes "pneumatiques" avant de partir car cela dépend du type de route ou de piste que nous allons avaler lors de cette randonnée.
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IONIE
Bonjour!
Je ne pas si vous êtes déjà revenu de votre périple marocain, mais je serais très curieux de savoir comment c'est comporté votre Jimny? J'envisage d'en acquérir un (comme voiture principale), et envisagerai également de faire un tour au Maroc avec. Comment l'avez-vous équipé? Trouve-t-on une tente de toit à sa diemension? Et comment s'est comporté le véhicule sur les pistes? D'avance merci. 😉
Je ne pas si vous êtes déjà revenu de votre périple marocain, mais je serais très curieux de savoir comment c'est comporté votre Jimny? J'envisage d'en acquérir un (comme voiture principale), et envisagerai également de faire un tour au Maroc avec. Comment l'avez-vous équipé? Trouve-t-on une tente de toit à sa diemension? Et comment s'est comporté le véhicule sur les pistes? D'avance merci. 😉
Bonjour,
Nous sommes bien rentrés sains et saufs de notre escapade marocaine. Nous sommes partis avec un couple d’amis qui disposaient eux aussi d’un Suzuki Jimny DDIS (86 cv). 🙂 😎
Le Jimny est le véhicule idéal (rapport : qualité / prix / performances) à la condition de n’être que deux à bord. Nous avons effectué un périple de 4000 kilomètres sur autoroutes, routes, pistes et dunes sans fatigue, ni courbatures, grâce à une sellerie ferme, mais qui reste confortable.
Pour ce qui est du comportement du Jimny, en deux mots « que du bonheur !... ». 😊 Le véhicule se tient bien sur le bitume (sec) et ne rechigne pas devant les obstacles qu’il rencontre dans la limite de ses capacités de franchissement (garde au sol limité à 19 cm). Son petit gabarit est un avantage sur les pistes étroites où les croissements entre véhicules sont parfois difficiles, pour ne pas dire périlleux. Dans les dunes et le sable, son poids plume allié au punch du moteur DDIS (en seconde courte et pression des pneus 1, 2 bar environ) lui permet d’éviter de se poser sur le ventre.
Nous sommes partis avec les pneumatiques d’origine (Bridgestone Dueler 684) qui ont très bien résistés aux pistes caillouteuses. Bien sûr, il aurait été préférable de monter des pneumatiques mixtes du type BF Goodrich All terrain en 215/75 R15 (mon prochain investissement). Nous avions installé un préfiltre à gasoil et des plaques de blindages ventrales pour la boite de transfert et l’échappement. Il ne manquait que des bavettes pour protéger les bas de caisse des projections de cailloux (pas indispensable mais recommandé).
Pour la tente de toit, mystère ? Il faudrait se rapprocher des équipementiers 4x4.
Nous, ainsi que nos amis, avons été très agréablement surpris par les performances de ce petit 4x4. 😏 😄
Cordialement, J.R & Sylvie
Bravo! Voila qui confirme mon idée sur cette auto!
En revanche, en dehors de la tente de toit, vous avez dû - par la force des choses - voyager trés léger niveau bagages. Avez vous souvent bivouaquer? Car le coffre est mini, et pour caser tente, habits, provisions, wouahou! Exercice plutôt zen j'imagine 😛
ou alors vous êtes allé souvent à l'hôtel, autre solution ?
En tout les cas encore bravo! et merci
(les plaques de protections que vous avez installées, sont-ce celles proposées par Suzuki?)
En revanche, en dehors de la tente de toit, vous avez dû - par la force des choses - voyager trés léger niveau bagages. Avez vous souvent bivouaquer? Car le coffre est mini, et pour caser tente, habits, provisions, wouahou! Exercice plutôt zen j'imagine 😛
ou alors vous êtes allé souvent à l'hôtel, autre solution ?
En tout les cas encore bravo! et merci
(les plaques de protections que vous avez installées, sont-ce celles proposées par Suzuki?)
Bonjour,
Le raid, organisé par l’agence Euromer, ne prévoyait pas de bivouac. Nous étions logés dans des hôtels qui, généralement, étaient superbes (l’hôtel Kasbah Xaluca à Erfoud entre autre). Sinon, au Maroc, il est toujours possible de dormir chez l’habitant. De plus, comme nous n’étions que deux personnes par véhicule, nous avions déposé la banquette et les dossiers des places arrières. Cette opération, qui demande 10 à 20 minutes de travail, permet de disposer d’un volume d’environ 1 mètre cube. Pour les voyages à plus de deux personnes, il est clair qu’il faut bien calculer pour loger les bagages et les équipements indispensables. Il faut être conscient que le Jimny ne peut accueillir que deux adultes 🙂😉 avec deux enfants 😏😐 au maximum, bien qu’il soit prévu pour quatre places. 🙁😠😕🏴☠️
Pour ce qui concerne les plaques de protection, nous les avons fabriquées en aluminium de 5 mm (fabrication maison). Mais, il est toujours possible d’en trouver à la vente (recherche Google : Jimny blindage, réponses : jtts4x4, Maurelec, off-road attitude, etc…).
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PS : Je vais essayer de vous faire parvenir des photos de la malle, protections et préfiltre gasoil.
slt
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++ et bon voyage!!!
toy
a MONTPELLIER, chez EUROMER Maroc 04 67 65 95 11 fax : 04 67 22 53 93
EURO-MER - CENTRALE DE RESERVATION FRANCE ET EUROPE 5 & 7 Quai de Sauvages CS 10024 34078 MONTPELLIER Cedex 3 (France) (Entre Gare et Polygone - Proximité Pont de Lattes - Angle Rue Méditerranée) Tram : Hôtel de Ville Du Lundi au Vendredi de 9h à 19 h. Le samedi de 9h à 18h.
++ et bon voyage!!!
toy
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Head out on Day 3 for a self-drive safari, maybe as far as Orpen.
We’d like to stay in a private reserve on nights 4 and 5.
We’re not sure which one or how to get into a private reserve. Do we need to exit Kruger Park?
On Day 5, we’d like to leave to visit Blyde Canyon (on Day 6).
Could you help us with these different locations?
Thanks
Could you help us with these different locations?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m planning to leave Morocco for the summer but want to leave my 4x4 there to avoid exceeding the famous 6-month limit. I’d like to park it in one of the two Spanish enclaves (Ceuta or Melilla). Does anyone know of people or companies that handle long-term parking (preferably secure) in either place? Once the car is parked, what’s the best way to get back to France using public transport? Is the nearest airport Tanger from Ceuta?... How do I get there easily, etc. etc.
Thanks in advance! Dominique
I’m planning to leave Morocco for the summer but want to leave my 4x4 there to avoid exceeding the famous 6-month limit. I’d like to park it in one of the two Spanish enclaves (Ceuta or Melilla). Does anyone know of people or companies that handle long-term parking (preferably secure) in either place? Once the car is parked, what’s the best way to get back to France using public transport? Is the nearest airport Tanger from Ceuta?... How do I get there easily, etc. etc.
Thanks in advance! Dominique
hello! I’d like to go to Kazakhstan and rent a fitted 4x4 locally so I can drive off-road trails and sleep inside the vehicle... could anyone share some local rental company addresses, please? Thanks! !
Hi,
I'm about to rent a self-drive 4x4 in Mongolia. Has anyone heard of GOBI.RENT? Otherwise, do you have any tips for checking this company since there's no info on their website (e.g., registration number on the RCS)?
Thanks
I'm about to rent a self-drive 4x4 in Mongolia. Has anyone heard of GOBI.RENT? Otherwise, do you have any tips for checking this company since there's no info on their website (e.g., registration number on the RCS)?
Thanks
Hi everyone,
I’m finalizing my trip starting from Namibia. When I arrive in Divundu, I’d like to head straight to the Khwai area early in the morning to one of the campsites in the Khwai Development Trust. Is the drive doable with a good 4x4 in a day? We’ll spend 2 nights in Khwai, then 2 or maybe 3 nights in the Moremi area (Third Bridge/Xakanaxa/Mboma) before heading back to Maun to wrap up our journey. Is that too much time to spend in each place?
We’d also like to do one or two boat excursions in the delta. Any suggestions for the best options and operators?
Thanks in advance for your tips and advice! Best, Patrick
I’m finalizing my trip starting from Namibia. When I arrive in Divundu, I’d like to head straight to the Khwai area early in the morning to one of the campsites in the Khwai Development Trust. Is the drive doable with a good 4x4 in a day? We’ll spend 2 nights in Khwai, then 2 or maybe 3 nights in the Moremi area (Third Bridge/Xakanaxa/Mboma) before heading back to Maun to wrap up our journey. Is that too much time to spend in each place?
We’d also like to do one or two boat excursions in the delta. Any suggestions for the best options and operators?
Thanks in advance for your tips and advice! Best, Patrick
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to explore the western part of Madagascar from May 1st to 5th, specifically to visit the Tsingy. I’ve heard different versions about the road conditions and access to the Tsingy during this time, so I’d love to hear from people who’ve actually made this trip during this time of year.
Have you traveled from Morondava → Tsingy between May 1st and 5th? Was the journey doable and safe? Did you have access to the Grands Tsingy, or just the Petits Tsingy?
Thanks so much for your feedback—it’ll really help me get a clearer picture! 😊 Also, if you have any recommendations for reliable and experienced driver-guides, I’d love to hear them. Thanks again!
Have you traveled from Morondava → Tsingy between May 1st and 5th? Was the journey doable and safe? Did you have access to the Grands Tsingy, or just the Petits Tsingy?
Thanks so much for your feedback—it’ll really help me get a clearer picture! 😊 Also, if you have any recommendations for reliable and experienced driver-guides, I’d love to hear them. Thanks again!