Un vol aller-retour en éco de Bruxelles vers Sao Paulo (escale à Barcelone) coûte 1994€ en décembre (du 10 au 27/12). Le vol aller retour de Barcelone vers Sao Paulo aux mêmes dates coûte 975€. Pourquoi cette différence de 1.019€ ?
Vols Bruxelles - Sao Paulo avec Singapore Airlines
by Blouch
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Un vol aller-retour en éco de Bruxelles vers Sao Paulo (escale à Barcelone) coûte 1994€ en décembre (du 10 au 27/12). Le vol aller retour de Barcelone vers Sao Paulo aux mêmes dates coûte 975€. Pourquoi cette différence de 1.019€ ?
Un vol aller-retour en éco de Bruxelles vers Sao Paulo (escale à Barcelone) coûte 1994€ en décembre (du 10 au 27/12). Le vol aller retour de Barcelone vers Sao Paulo aux mêmes dates coûte 975€. Pourquoi cette différence de 1.019€ ?
La magie de la tarification aérienne. Des fois on gagne des fois on perd.
Sur un vol BCN-GRU, SQ est en concurrence directe avec IB. Donc guerre des prix. Sur BRU-GRU il n'y a personne dont prix élevé. Il y a aussi le lieu des résidents qui fait fluctuer les prix. Un vol ZRH-BKK-HKG avec TG sera vendu le double d'un vol CDG-BKK-HKG.
Pourquoi Singapour Airlines à tout prix?
Sans chercher très loin je trouve :
Ibéria : 779€ TAP : 786€ KLM : 836€ Swiss : 903€ Alitalia : 911€ Lufthansa 916€ Airfrance : 938€ British : 1012€
Ca te laisse quand même pas mal de choix pour la moitié du prix de singapour airlines
Sans chercher très loin je trouve :
Ibéria : 779€ TAP : 786€ KLM : 836€ Swiss : 903€ Alitalia : 911€ Lufthansa 916€ Airfrance : 938€ British : 1012€
Ca te laisse quand même pas mal de choix pour la moitié du prix de singapour airlines
Mais pas avec la qualité de service de SQ.
Je ne veux pas Singapore Airlines à tout prix mais j'aurais bien voulu essayer une compagnie que l'on présente comme l'une des meilleures au monde.
Il est un fait qu'avec un prix pareil Singapore n'aura pas de client au départ de Bruxelles.
Pourtant avec le nombre de brésiliens qui habitent Bruxelles cela fait une sérieuse clientèle potentielle !
Difficile de comprendre la stratégie de Singapore Airlines ! Peut-être qu'ils ont déjà assez de clients !
Mais pas avec la qualité de service de SQ.
D'accord mais 1000€ de supplément pas rapport a swiss qui n'est pas mauvais ça fait quand même beaucoup.
Ou alors tant qu'à faire on ajoute 300€ et on vole en business.
Bref je suis bien d'accord sur le fait que le positionnement de singapore airlines est bizarre, qualité du service ou non
D'accord mais 1000€ de supplément pas rapport a swiss qui n'est pas mauvais ça fait quand même beaucoup.
Ou alors tant qu'à faire on ajoute 300€ et on vole en business.
Bref je suis bien d'accord sur le fait que le positionnement de singapore airlines est bizarre, qualité du service ou non
Voilà la réponse de Singapore à la demande d'explication :
Dear Sir,
Our fare from Brussels to Brazil starts from € 909,00 ex airporttax. It is possible when you depart from Barcelona that the fare is lower because every SQ station offer his own fares. This means that when you prefer to get your flight start from Barcelona you need to book this on our website.
With kind regards, SINGAPORE AIRLINES Ltd
Bref ils s'en fichent des client belges. Il n'y a pas de bureau à Bruxelles. Le contact pour la Belgique se trouve en Hollande. C'est peut-être un début d'explication. J'ai touvé un billet Air france à 1039€. Aller en eco et retour en premium.
Dear Sir,
Our fare from Brussels to Brazil starts from € 909,00 ex airporttax. It is possible when you depart from Barcelona that the fare is lower because every SQ station offer his own fares. This means that when you prefer to get your flight start from Barcelona you need to book this on our website.
With kind regards, SINGAPORE AIRLINES Ltd
Bref ils s'en fichent des client belges. Il n'y a pas de bureau à Bruxelles. Le contact pour la Belgique se trouve en Hollande. C'est peut-être un début d'explication. J'ai touvé un billet Air france à 1039€. Aller en eco et retour en premium.
Il faut bien que les compagnies gagnent de l'argent....en Décembre beaucoup de Brésilien(ne)s rentrent chez eux pour les fêtes de fin d'année au départ de l' Europe.....A contrario , les Brésiliens qui sont en vacances d'été ne viennent pas en Europe, quand on a du 35° on vient pas au froid et dans la neige.....
Donc les compagnies en faisant des tarif à 1900 € (on trouve du 1400€ au départ de Genève aux mêmes dates) font payer le retour de leurs avions à ceux qui veulent voir leurs proches, qui font des A/R journaliers plein ou à moitié vides.....Ce qui comptent pour les compagnies c'est le C.A en terme de recette que rapporte un A/R.... par contre si vous partez après le 15 janvier et que vous validez votre achat mi décembre....le billet tourne entre 750 et 850 € pour un Genève /SP car la demande est plus importante pour la fin d'année qu'après !!!!
Donc les compagnies en faisant des tarif à 1900 € (on trouve du 1400€ au départ de Genève aux mêmes dates) font payer le retour de leurs avions à ceux qui veulent voir leurs proches, qui font des A/R journaliers plein ou à moitié vides.....Ce qui comptent pour les compagnies c'est le C.A en terme de recette que rapporte un A/R.... par contre si vous partez après le 15 janvier et que vous validez votre achat mi décembre....le billet tourne entre 750 et 850 € pour un Genève /SP car la demande est plus importante pour la fin d'année qu'après !!!!
Même en janvier Singapore est plus cher que les autres compagnies. Le prix le plus bas en éco est d'environs 1395€ ttc !
Leur meilleur prix est de 909€ hors taxes.
Et il fera combien le billet 909 HT une fois toutes les taxes, chares, etc. ajoutés? Peut-être que vous vous offusquez pour une différence nettement plus petite que vous ne le pensez?
Et il fera combien le billet 909 HT une fois toutes les taxes, chares, etc. ajoutés? Peut-être que vous vous offusquez pour une différence nettement plus petite que vous ne le pensez?
J'ai encore comparé les prix entre un vol au départ de Barcelone et de Bruxelles.
En décembre : du 9 au 27/12 : Barcelone - Sao Paulo : 983 ttc (taxes = 283,17€) - au départ de Bruxelles aux mêmes dates : 2.154,24€ TTC (taxes = 462,24€) soit une différence de 1171,24€
En janvier : du 15/01 au 05/02/2012 : Barcelone-Sao : 883€TTC - Au départ de Bruxelles : 1.599,24€ soit une différence de 716,24€.
Un vol entre Bruxelles et barcelone coûte cher avec Singapore !
Alors soit c'est Singapore Airlines soit c'est les hollandais qui fixent les prix qui se foutent des client belges. Rien ne justifie une telle différence de prix !
En janvier : du 15/01 au 05/02/2012 : Barcelone-Sao : 883€TTC - Au départ de Bruxelles : 1.599,24€ soit une différence de 716,24€.
Un vol entre Bruxelles et barcelone coûte cher avec Singapore !
Alors soit c'est Singapore Airlines soit c'est les hollandais qui fixent les prix qui se foutent des client belges. Rien ne justifie une telle différence de prix !
Rien ne justifie une telle différence de prix !
Ils ont certainement des bonnes raisons de proposer des prix si élevés et ils n'ont pas a s'en justifier. Ils proposent un service à un certain prix, libre à toi de choisir de payer ce prix ou d'aller voir ailleurs
Ils ont certainement des bonnes raisons de proposer des prix si élevés et ils n'ont pas a s'en justifier. Ils proposent un service à un certain prix, libre à toi de choisir de payer ce prix ou d'aller voir ailleurs
Bonjour
rien ne vous empeche d'acheter 2 billets séparés pour le trajet :
plusieurs compagnies opèrent la ligne : Brussels Airlines, Vueling et Ryanair (au depart de Charleroi) et les tarifs resteront sans doute inférieur à la différence chez Singapore Airlines
De plus vu l'horaire du vol BCN-GRU qui part à 8h20, vous ne pourrez pas évité une nuit sur place à BCN et un départ la veille
rien ne vous empeche d'acheter 2 billets séparés pour le trajet :
plusieurs compagnies opèrent la ligne : Brussels Airlines, Vueling et Ryanair (au depart de Charleroi) et les tarifs resteront sans doute inférieur à la différence chez Singapore Airlines
De plus vu l'horaire du vol BCN-GRU qui part à 8h20, vous ne pourrez pas évité une nuit sur place à BCN et un départ la veille
Je suis de nouveau là avec les prix de Singapore Airlines de Bruxelles vers le Brésil.
Vol en éco départ le 12/07 retour le 30/07/2013 :
BRUXELLES-SAO PAULO : 4.681,43 euros
BARCELONE-SAO PAULO : 1.174,44 euros
Différence : 3.506,99 euros
Cela confirme que Singapore Airlines n'en a rien à foutre de la Belgique !
BRUXELLES-SAO PAULO : 4.681,43 euros
BARCELONE-SAO PAULO : 1.174,44 euros
Différence : 3.506,99 euros
Cela confirme que Singapore Airlines n'en a rien à foutre de la Belgique !
Je suis de nouveau là avec les prix de Singapore Airlines de Bruxelles vers le Brésil.
Vol en éco départ le 12/07 retour le 30/07/2013 :
Bonjour,
Malheureusement je ne trouve aucun vol SQ départ vendredi 12 juillet retour Mardi 30 juillet.
cordialement.
(effectivement selon cette période les vols SQ tournent autour des 4000€)
Bonjour,
Malheureusement je ne trouve aucun vol SQ départ vendredi 12 juillet retour Mardi 30 juillet.
cordialement.
(effectivement selon cette période les vols SQ tournent autour des 4000€)
Ce sont des stratégies de compagnies aériennes que quasi peronne ne peut t'expliquer.
Exemple: Quito - Madrid
Dans certains cas, tu paies moins cher avec KLM (Vol avec escale à Amsterdam) qu'avec Iberia (vol direct).
Mais si ton voisin dans l'avion de KLM va à Amsterdam (donc trajet plus court) il pourra payer jusqu'à 25 % de plus que toi.
Cela dépend aussi de la création de nouvelles lignes. Par exemple, certains trajet entre Quito et Lima qui avaient augmenté drastiquement ces derniers temps ont subitementdiminué avec l'augmentation de vols de TAME, et ainsi de suite...
Exemple: Quito - Madrid
Dans certains cas, tu paies moins cher avec KLM (Vol avec escale à Amsterdam) qu'avec Iberia (vol direct).
Mais si ton voisin dans l'avion de KLM va à Amsterdam (donc trajet plus court) il pourra payer jusqu'à 25 % de plus que toi.
Cela dépend aussi de la création de nouvelles lignes. Par exemple, certains trajet entre Quito et Lima qui avaient augmenté drastiquement ces derniers temps ont subitementdiminué avec l'augmentation de vols de TAME, et ainsi de suite...
Daniel
C'est du 12/07 au 29/07/2013.
Le prix n'a pas changé ce 16/01 au départ de Bruxelles vers Sao Paulo : 4.687,70 en éco - 8.137,72€ en business - 13.753,24 en first.
Il feraient mieux de ne pas vendre cette destination au départ de Bruxelles, d'autant plus que vu les horaires il faut se payer une nuit à Barcelone. Le délai entre l'arrivée du vol de Bruxelles et le départ de Sao est trop court ! Qui va acheter ce vol chez Singapore ?
Il feraient mieux de ne pas vendre cette destination au départ de Bruxelles, d'autant plus que vu les horaires il faut se payer une nuit à Barcelone. Le délai entre l'arrivée du vol de Bruxelles et le départ de Sao est trop court ! Qui va acheter ce vol chez Singapore ?
Il feraient mieux de ne pas vendre cette destination au départ de Bruxelles, d'autant plus que vu les horaires il faut se payer une nuit à Barcelone.
Le délai entre l'arrivée du vol de Bruxelles et le départ de Sao est trop court !
Qui va acheter ce vol chez Singapore ?
Franchement, je ne pense personne au départ de bruxelles... + de 4000€ en éco c'est abusé!
Franchement, je ne pense personne au départ de bruxelles... + de 4000€ en éco c'est abusé!
Singapore Airlines n'a pas de vol Bruxelle Barcelone.
Ce sera surement un vol par une compagnie de la Star Alliance .
Comme le dit tres bien Daniel , les compagnies ont des tarifs tellement differents suivant les points de departs ou d'arrivees.
Les tarifs Air France sont de 200 a 300 euros moins au depart de Sao Paulo pour toutes les capitales europeenes que Paris , ou vice versa . Ceci est une politique pour drainer un maximum de passagers d'europe via Paris.
Une autre option Air France bien moins cher que le Paris Sao Paulo , est le Bruxelle PAris en TGV et ensuite le vol AF .
J'ai des amis de Paris qui ont ete jusqu'a Bruxelle , pour revenir sur Paris , car ils econimisaient de 200 a 300 euros ....faut le faire , non ??
Bonsoir,
J'ai peut-être une solution pour vous faire voyager de Bruxelles à Sao Paulo via Barcelone avec SQ
Qui vous empêche de prendre des vols SN airlines dès 162.16€ et d'acheter à part un BCN-GRU dès 1218.69 €?
Vu que ce sont des vols entre compagnies "amies" vos bagages voyageront de Bruxelles à Sao Paulo et versa! 1. Vous vous faîtes plaisir en voyageant avec SQ 2. Vous les emmerdez bien profond en achetant 2 billets et vous payez moins cher!
Le top du top c'est de prendre les tarifs flexibles afin d'assurer la correspondance en cas de retard de l'un ou de l'autre vol...mais bon, apparemment, il y a assez de temps de battement.
Qu'en pensez-vous?
cordialement
J'ai peut-être une solution pour vous faire voyager de Bruxelles à Sao Paulo via Barcelone avec SQ
Qui vous empêche de prendre des vols SN airlines dès 162.16€ et d'acheter à part un BCN-GRU dès 1218.69 €?
Vu que ce sont des vols entre compagnies "amies" vos bagages voyageront de Bruxelles à Sao Paulo et versa! 1. Vous vous faîtes plaisir en voyageant avec SQ 2. Vous les emmerdez bien profond en achetant 2 billets et vous payez moins cher!
Le top du top c'est de prendre les tarifs flexibles afin d'assurer la correspondance en cas de retard de l'un ou de l'autre vol...mais bon, apparemment, il y a assez de temps de battement.
Qu'en pensez-vous?
cordialement
Bonsoir,
J'y ai déjà pensé mais je ne suis pas sûr que les valises vont en direct à Sao. En plus les terminaux d'arrivée de BXL et de départ vers Sao sont éloignés l'un de l'autre. Il faut prendre un bus. Je crois pas que c'est faisable surtout s'il faut récupérer les bagages. La seule solution c'est de passer une nuit à Barcelone.
J'y ai déjà pensé mais je ne suis pas sûr que les valises vont en direct à Sao. En plus les terminaux d'arrivée de BXL et de départ vers Sao sont éloignés l'un de l'autre. Il faut prendre un bus. Je crois pas que c'est faisable surtout s'il faut récupérer les bagages. La seule solution c'est de passer une nuit à Barcelone.
J'y ai déjà pensé mais je ne suis pas sûr que les valises vont en direct à Sao.
Si singapore airlines vous vends une correspondance avec SN airlines et avec suivi des valises...Pourquoi SN à Bruxelles vous refuserait de le faire?
Un coup de fil à SN en disant, voilà...j'ai un vol depuis Madrid avec SQ, est-ce que je peux enregistrer mes bagages pour Sao Paulo depuis Bruxelles? Et vous serez fixé! M'étonnerai qu'ils refusent, du moins je ne vois pas ce qu'ils peuvent prétexter vu que c'est faisable sur le site SQ!
Dans un autre cas de figure, en ce qui me concerne...Ethiad me vendait un Genève-abu dhabi-Bangkok-Phuket à 900€ alors que le Genève-abu dhabi-bangkok était à 650€! j'ai donc acheté séparément le Bangkok-Phuket qui était opéré en code share avec Bangkok airlines et je l'ai payé 80€...A genève, ils ont fait les gros yeux, mais m'ont acheminé mon bagage jusqu'à Phuket alors que j'avais 2 billets d'avions....économie 170€ ! service: le même que si j'avais payé 900€!!
Si singapore airlines vous vends une correspondance avec SN airlines et avec suivi des valises...Pourquoi SN à Bruxelles vous refuserait de le faire?
Un coup de fil à SN en disant, voilà...j'ai un vol depuis Madrid avec SQ, est-ce que je peux enregistrer mes bagages pour Sao Paulo depuis Bruxelles? Et vous serez fixé! M'étonnerai qu'ils refusent, du moins je ne vois pas ce qu'ils peuvent prétexter vu que c'est faisable sur le site SQ!
Dans un autre cas de figure, en ce qui me concerne...Ethiad me vendait un Genève-abu dhabi-Bangkok-Phuket à 900€ alors que le Genève-abu dhabi-bangkok était à 650€! j'ai donc acheté séparément le Bangkok-Phuket qui était opéré en code share avec Bangkok airlines et je l'ai payé 80€...A genève, ils ont fait les gros yeux, mais m'ont acheminé mon bagage jusqu'à Phuket alors que j'avais 2 billets d'avions....économie 170€ ! service: le même que si j'avais payé 900€!!
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After 11 years of struggle, it seems likely that we’re finally nearing the end of the match between the European Commission, the Council (the 27 heads of state or government), and the European Parliament.
Indeed, the Commission and the European Parliament have agreed on a text that will be debated again on Monday, July 6, 2026, with a vote scheduled for July 7, 2026. It’s very likely that this text, which would come into force in a year, will be adopted.
The main changes would be as follows: - Families with children will no longer be forced to pay to sit together on planes; - A flight will be considered canceled (not just delayed) if it departs more than one hour late; - Right to compensation for arrival at the final destination if the delay exceeds 3 hours (no longer "3 hours OR more"). The arrival time will be when the plane, having reached its parking spot, engages its parking brakes (no longer when the aircraft door opens); - Airlines can no longer refuse boarding or charge extra on the return flight for a passenger who didn’t take the outbound flight; - If a flight is canceled, the airline must, at the same time as informing passengers of the event, offer the choice between a refund and re-routing, and inform them of their rights to assistance and, if applicable, compensation; - The airline must, without undue delay, inform passengers of the reason; - In the case of a connecting flight, if the connection is missed and the delay at the final destination entitles the passenger to compensation, the responsible airline will be liable. This is very different from the current situation, where, under the KLM ruling, any airline operating a segment of the flight is liable for compensation. This promises more disputes that the Court of Justice of the European Union will have to resolve if two separate airlines operating segments of a connecting flight are both responsible for the delay. See this case for an example: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2026/04/18/swiss-international-air-lines-la-mauvaise-foi/ Moreover, this case demonstrates in advance another potential dispute: It could be argued that it wasn’t a missed connection since the flight was canceled before the first leg even departed. - Within 96 hours of a flight that could entitle passengers to compensation, the airline must contact them to inform them of their rights and explain the next steps. - Passengers must claim their right to compensation within 9 months. This is very different from the current situation, as Regulation 261/2004 sets no time limit. Currently, national law applies—in France, the limit is 5 years. The airline must respond within 30 days. If the airline refuses compensation on the grounds of "extraordinary circumstances," it must specify which type of case it refers to from the list in the annex of the new regulation. If the case isn’t on the list, the airline must explain what the event was, why it qualifies as extraordinary circumstances with "clear, substantial, and concise" explanations, and why it’s directly linked to the reason given. It must also declare what "reasonable measures" were taken to mitigate the issue. This is, of course, a huge change in the regulation, with the clear goal of preventing airlines from declaring just anything as "extraordinary circumstances" to avoid compensation. - If, within 3 hours of a last-minute canceled or delayed flight, the airline hasn’t offered re-routing under comparable transport conditions and as soon as possible—whether on one of its own flights or another airline’s—the passenger will have the right to arrange their own re-routing and demand a refund for the new ticket, up to 400% of the original ticket price. This is a significant improvement that would have likely prevented the case described here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/01/12/reacheminement-catastrophique-droit-indemnisation-meme-circonstances-extraordinaires-2/ - If a flight is canceled due to "extraordinary circumstances," the airline will only be required to offer up to 3 nights in a hotel. This is a major change, as there’s currently no limit. Expect disputes if the extraordinary circumstances end while the passenger hasn’t been re-routed. - The price of a flight, as first displayed, must obligatorily include a cabin bag. This doesn’t prevent the airline from offering a price reduction if the passenger waives the cabin bag. This will put an end to abnormal practices, such as (just one example) Condor charging extra for a cabin bag on long-haul flights like Frankfurt (Germany)–Puerto Plata (Dominican Republic)–Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic)–Frankfurt. - Free correction of a passenger’s name if requested 48 hours before departure. Note: This can’t be used to replace one passenger with another—just to correct a typo, e.g., Dupont instead of Dpont. - Airlines’ websites and apps must include information on how to file a claim.
It’s clear that, despite a few details, these changes are very positive for upholding passenger rights. It remains to be seen whether this text will be definitively adopted on July 7, 2026, as is very likely, and, more importantly, whether IATA will encourage airlines to loyally respect these new rules or persist in their old habits.
Best regards,
Since it came into force, Regulation 261/2004 of the European Parliament and Council, which defines air passenger rights, has faced fierce resistance from airlines, backed by IATA (the association representing almost all passenger airlines).
Beyond the airlines' often abusive—and even frequently bad-faith—resistance to passenger rights, IATA has been lobbying EU institutions for years, with the Council paying close attention for a long time.
As a result, the Council and the Commission have been proposing revisions to Regulation 261/2004 for years that are particularly unfavorable to passengers. The latest attempt nearly eliminated the right to compensation for delays of 3 hours or more upon arrival at the final destination.
However, since this is a regulation of both the European Parliament AND the Council, the two bodies had to agree.
But the European Parliament has always stood firm, consistently responding that passenger rights must be preserved.
After 11 years of struggle, it seems likely that we’re finally nearing the end of the match between the European Commission, the Council (the 27 heads of state or government), and the European Parliament.
Indeed, the Commission and the European Parliament have agreed on a text that will be debated again on Monday, July 6, 2026, with a vote scheduled for July 7, 2026. It’s very likely that this text, which would come into force in a year, will be adopted.
The main changes would be as follows: - Families with children will no longer be forced to pay to sit together on planes; - A flight will be considered canceled (not just delayed) if it departs more than one hour late; - Right to compensation for arrival at the final destination if the delay exceeds 3 hours (no longer "3 hours OR more"). The arrival time will be when the plane, having reached its parking spot, engages its parking brakes (no longer when the aircraft door opens); - Airlines can no longer refuse boarding or charge extra on the return flight for a passenger who didn’t take the outbound flight; - If a flight is canceled, the airline must, at the same time as informing passengers of the event, offer the choice between a refund and re-routing, and inform them of their rights to assistance and, if applicable, compensation; - The airline must, without undue delay, inform passengers of the reason; - In the case of a connecting flight, if the connection is missed and the delay at the final destination entitles the passenger to compensation, the responsible airline will be liable. This is very different from the current situation, where, under the KLM ruling, any airline operating a segment of the flight is liable for compensation. This promises more disputes that the Court of Justice of the European Union will have to resolve if two separate airlines operating segments of a connecting flight are both responsible for the delay. See this case for an example: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2026/04/18/swiss-international-air-lines-la-mauvaise-foi/ Moreover, this case demonstrates in advance another potential dispute: It could be argued that it wasn’t a missed connection since the flight was canceled before the first leg even departed. - Within 96 hours of a flight that could entitle passengers to compensation, the airline must contact them to inform them of their rights and explain the next steps. - Passengers must claim their right to compensation within 9 months. This is very different from the current situation, as Regulation 261/2004 sets no time limit. Currently, national law applies—in France, the limit is 5 years. The airline must respond within 30 days. If the airline refuses compensation on the grounds of "extraordinary circumstances," it must specify which type of case it refers to from the list in the annex of the new regulation. If the case isn’t on the list, the airline must explain what the event was, why it qualifies as extraordinary circumstances with "clear, substantial, and concise" explanations, and why it’s directly linked to the reason given. It must also declare what "reasonable measures" were taken to mitigate the issue. This is, of course, a huge change in the regulation, with the clear goal of preventing airlines from declaring just anything as "extraordinary circumstances" to avoid compensation. - If, within 3 hours of a last-minute canceled or delayed flight, the airline hasn’t offered re-routing under comparable transport conditions and as soon as possible—whether on one of its own flights or another airline’s—the passenger will have the right to arrange their own re-routing and demand a refund for the new ticket, up to 400% of the original ticket price. This is a significant improvement that would have likely prevented the case described here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/01/12/reacheminement-catastrophique-droit-indemnisation-meme-circonstances-extraordinaires-2/ - If a flight is canceled due to "extraordinary circumstances," the airline will only be required to offer up to 3 nights in a hotel. This is a major change, as there’s currently no limit. Expect disputes if the extraordinary circumstances end while the passenger hasn’t been re-routed. - The price of a flight, as first displayed, must obligatorily include a cabin bag. This doesn’t prevent the airline from offering a price reduction if the passenger waives the cabin bag. This will put an end to abnormal practices, such as (just one example) Condor charging extra for a cabin bag on long-haul flights like Frankfurt (Germany)–Puerto Plata (Dominican Republic)–Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic)–Frankfurt. - Free correction of a passenger’s name if requested 48 hours before departure. Note: This can’t be used to replace one passenger with another—just to correct a typo, e.g., Dupont instead of Dpont. - Airlines’ websites and apps must include information on how to file a claim.
It’s clear that, despite a few details, these changes are very positive for upholding passenger rights. It remains to be seen whether this text will be definitively adopted on July 7, 2026, as is very likely, and, more importantly, whether IATA will encourage airlines to loyally respect these new rules or persist in their old habits.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Georgia this summer and I’ve been comparing some airlines. I’m not particularly set on flying with Pegasus (though it’s convenient with direct flights from Lyon to Tbilisi), but right off the bat, Pegasus states this:
As of January 1, 2026, all foreign nationals traveling to Georgia for tourism purposes will be required to present valid travel health insurance. Guests who fail to provide the relevant health insurance will not be accepted on our flights to Georgia. Sincerely, Pegasus Airlines
In other words, if you don’t show proof of travel health insurance, you’ll be denied boarding. Personally, my credit card insurance has always been enough for me, and I’d rather not take out extra coverage... Have any of you run into this issue before? If not, what do you think? Why is Pegasus asking for this proof? Other airlines don’t mention it at all.
I’m planning a trip to Georgia this summer and I’ve been comparing some airlines. I’m not particularly set on flying with Pegasus (though it’s convenient with direct flights from Lyon to Tbilisi), but right off the bat, Pegasus states this:
As of January 1, 2026, all foreign nationals traveling to Georgia for tourism purposes will be required to present valid travel health insurance. Guests who fail to provide the relevant health insurance will not be accepted on our flights to Georgia. Sincerely, Pegasus Airlines
In other words, if you don’t show proof of travel health insurance, you’ll be denied boarding. Personally, my credit card insurance has always been enough for me, and I’d rather not take out extra coverage... Have any of you run into this issue before? If not, what do you think? Why is Pegasus asking for this proof? Other airlines don’t mention it at all.
Hi,
I bought my flight ticket with my first (usual) first name, which appears first on my passport. However, I have two first names on my passport, and of course, it’s mentioned in the machine-readable zone at the bottom.
I booked with Turkish Airlines (through an online agency) for a trip to South Korea.
I wanted to know if it would be a problem that I only used my first first name on the ticket, while my passport has two. I had requested through the agency to add the second first name, but the airline refused because it doesn’t meet their general conditions. (They must have seen that the last name and first name were the same, and only the second first name was added.)
So, my ticket has my last name and first first name correctly spelled, and when I check in online, I’ll enter the passport details correctly.
I’ll have a layover in Istanbul on the flight.
Thanks in advance for your replies. Have a great day.
I bought my flight ticket with my first (usual) first name, which appears first on my passport. However, I have two first names on my passport, and of course, it’s mentioned in the machine-readable zone at the bottom.
I booked with Turkish Airlines (through an online agency) for a trip to South Korea.
I wanted to know if it would be a problem that I only used my first first name on the ticket, while my passport has two. I had requested through the agency to add the second first name, but the airline refused because it doesn’t meet their general conditions. (They must have seen that the last name and first name were the same, and only the second first name was added.)
So, my ticket has my last name and first first name correctly spelled, and when I check in online, I’ll enter the passport details correctly.
I’ll have a layover in Istanbul on the flight.
Thanks in advance for your replies. Have a great day.
Hi there,
I traveled in June 2025 with Nouvelair Destinations to Hammamet.
I had one checked bag and one carry-on sized 40x24x30, which I usually take on low-cost flights, and I didn’t have any issues. But I just read on a website that Nouvel Air only accepts carry-ons of 40x20x15. I’m flying back to Djerba in June—what do you think? Especially since that size is impossible to find??????? Thanks
Hi, it's my first time taking a plane and I chose EasyJet for a Geneva -> Barcelona flight.
I booked my ticket.
I received my booking reference by email, but I don’t see the actual ticket (barcode or QR code?).
Then I checked in to get the boarding pass with the flight details, QR code, etc. But does this boarding pass act as the ticket?
Because I’ve seen several times online that the flight ticket and the boarding pass aren’t the same thing.
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We're leaving for Albania on June 18th. When I validated the flight tickets with Wizz Air on Booking, I only put my son's first name but forgot to include his other three first names on the ticket. On the passport: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAMES: toto titi tutu tata On the flight ticket: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAME: toto I can't seem to reach anyone at Wizz Air to get an answer. Booking and Wizz Air's chat say I need to modify it, but ChatGPT says it should be fine. I wanted to know if he can fly like this or if I need to change his ticket? (It costs 140 €, I know I shouldn't have made a mistake🙁)
Thanks for your feedback.
We're leaving for Albania on June 18th. When I validated the flight tickets with Wizz Air on Booking, I only put my son's first name but forgot to include his other three first names on the ticket. On the passport: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAMES: toto titi tutu tata On the flight ticket: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAME: toto I can't seem to reach anyone at Wizz Air to get an answer. Booking and Wizz Air's chat say I need to modify it, but ChatGPT says it should be fine. I wanted to know if he can fly like this or if I need to change his ticket? (It costs 140 €, I know I shouldn't have made a mistake🙁)
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi,
A pretty serious issue has come up in the past few weeks for traveling to Tanzania.
What’s the deal with airlines in Tanzania? https://www.capital.fr/economie-politique/ce-pays-est-tres-touristique-mais-ses-compagnies-aeriennes-sont-placees-sur-liste-noire-par-l-europe-1515325 https://www.charentelibre.fr/tourisme/la-tanzanie-sur-liste-noire-de-l-europe-des-vols-interieurs-a-haut-risque-pour-100-000-touristes-francais-25002566.php
Basically, all airlines have been blacklisted because they don’t meet European safety standards. They’re banned from flying in Europe but continue operating in Tanzania. The main issue is that travel agencies’ civil liability no longer applies to blacklisted airlines. So we can’t allow clients to fly with these carriers. Of course, there’s huge pressure from European agencies, which are forced to disrupt their plans or even cancel trips because of this. Personally, I’ve got a trip planned for February 2026 to the southern parks in Tanzania, so I’ll be keeping an eye on how this develops. Do any of you have updates? Thanks!
Loïc
A pretty serious issue has come up in the past few weeks for traveling to Tanzania.
What’s the deal with airlines in Tanzania? https://www.capital.fr/economie-politique/ce-pays-est-tres-touristique-mais-ses-compagnies-aeriennes-sont-placees-sur-liste-noire-par-l-europe-1515325 https://www.charentelibre.fr/tourisme/la-tanzanie-sur-liste-noire-de-l-europe-des-vols-interieurs-a-haut-risque-pour-100-000-touristes-francais-25002566.php
Basically, all airlines have been blacklisted because they don’t meet European safety standards. They’re banned from flying in Europe but continue operating in Tanzania. The main issue is that travel agencies’ civil liability no longer applies to blacklisted airlines. So we can’t allow clients to fly with these carriers. Of course, there’s huge pressure from European agencies, which are forced to disrupt their plans or even cancel trips because of this. Personally, I’ve got a trip planned for February 2026 to the southern parks in Tanzania, so I’ll be keeping an eye on how this develops. Do any of you have updates? Thanks!
Loïc
Hi,
Right now, with the war raging in Iran and affecting all the neighboring countries of the Persian Gulf, many airports are completely closed to all traffic.
Several airlines like Qatar Airways, Emirates, and others have almost completely halted their operations.
Whether in the Middle East or Africa, many travelers are stranded—maybe for a long time... A heartfelt thought for them and the struggles this will cause.
Four months ago, I was in Kenya with a flight booked through Qatar Airways... I can’t even imagine how I’d react if I were stuck there now. ??
Wishing all these travelers courage, patience, and success in making it back home.
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Doha Airport on October 21, 2025:

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Right now, with the war raging in Iran and affecting all the neighboring countries of the Persian Gulf, many airports are completely closed to all traffic.
Several airlines like Qatar Airways, Emirates, and others have almost completely halted their operations.
Whether in the Middle East or Africa, many travelers are stranded—maybe for a long time... A heartfelt thought for them and the struggles this will cause.
Four months ago, I was in Kenya with a flight booked through Qatar Airways... I can’t even imagine how I’d react if I were stuck there now. ??
Wishing all these travelers courage, patience, and success in making it back home.
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Doha Airport on October 21, 2025:

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Hello, some (potentially) good news for Brazil lovers—GOL airline is launching a route to Europe from Rio, starting in September for Lisbon, then Paris at a later date that hasn’t been announced yet.
They’ll be using their new A330-900 neo.
No prices have been announced so far, but hopefully we’ll find direct flights from GIG at a more interesting fare than AF or Latam…
Hello,
I’m really surprised because in TUI’s new tour packages, the airlines they’re using are of low quality. Before, they used to prioritize major airlines, but now it’s small airlines from small countries—companies with terrible ratings and borderline safety concerns. I even just noticed this note for a Tanzania trip: "We inform you that the domestic flight segment in Tanzania included in your trip is operated by an airline listed on the European Union’s list of air carriers subject to an operating ban within the European Union. This ban only applies to European Union airspace, meaning this airline is not permitted to take off, land, or fly over European airspace. However, this airline is authorized to operate in Tanzania."
This means they’re using airlines on the blacklist!! It’s pretty worrying for safety. What do you all think?
I’m really surprised because in TUI’s new tour packages, the airlines they’re using are of low quality. Before, they used to prioritize major airlines, but now it’s small airlines from small countries—companies with terrible ratings and borderline safety concerns. I even just noticed this note for a Tanzania trip: "We inform you that the domestic flight segment in Tanzania included in your trip is operated by an airline listed on the European Union’s list of air carriers subject to an operating ban within the European Union. This ban only applies to European Union airspace, meaning this airline is not permitted to take off, land, or fly over European airspace. However, this airline is authorized to operate in Tanzania."
This means they’re using airlines on the blacklist!! It’s pretty worrying for safety. What do you all think?
Hello,
We’re planning a cruise to the UAE/QATAR/OMAN starting from DUBAI, with flights departing from Paris CDG. Which airlines would you recommend for round-trip flights, with or without a layover? We need assistance for check-in and boarding/disembarking (my husband is a mobility-impaired traveler who uses a cane and/or a walker). We’ve done a cruise return from Dubai to Paris CDG before in 2016, with a layover in Istanbul, but we booked the transfer and return flight with COSTA. For our current plan, it would be with Celestyal, which doesn’t offer round-trip flights from Paris to Dubai. Should we book very far in advance, or is a few months before departure enough (4/6 months)? We’re thinking of arriving the day before the ship departs, so we’d need to stay overnight in Dubai—either on the way there or for the return flight, depending on the flight schedules. Could you recommend a hotel not too far from the airport, and how to get to the port from the airport?
Thanks so much for your advice. Have a great Sunday! Mum49
We’re planning a cruise to the UAE/QATAR/OMAN starting from DUBAI, with flights departing from Paris CDG. Which airlines would you recommend for round-trip flights, with or without a layover? We need assistance for check-in and boarding/disembarking (my husband is a mobility-impaired traveler who uses a cane and/or a walker). We’ve done a cruise return from Dubai to Paris CDG before in 2016, with a layover in Istanbul, but we booked the transfer and return flight with COSTA. For our current plan, it would be with Celestyal, which doesn’t offer round-trip flights from Paris to Dubai. Should we book very far in advance, or is a few months before departure enough (4/6 months)? We’re thinking of arriving the day before the ship departs, so we’d need to stay overnight in Dubai—either on the way there or for the return flight, depending on the flight schedules. Could you recommend a hotel not too far from the airport, and how to get to the port from the airport?
Thanks so much for your advice. Have a great Sunday! Mum49
Hi,
It's all in the title—this means nothing's getting through, so no more oil.
In Europe, kerosene reserves are still good, but by the end of April, flights will have to be reduced.
European airports fear running out of kerosene if the Strait of Hormuz isn’t reopened within three weeks
Bluff or not? Stay tuned....
Bluff or not? Stay tuned....
Hi everyone,
I’m reaching out to ask for your help with a bit of a problem:
I booked a flight to Berlin from Orly for April 15th—it’s coming up fast. But I just made an annoying discovery: my passport expired two weeks ago.
From what I understand, in principle, I can still travel within the Schengen Zone with an expired passport as long as it’s been less than five years. However, EasyJet’s website explicitly requires a valid ID (and just to add to the fun, my national ID card has been expired for a while now).
So, I’d love to know: how strict are EasyJet’s ID checks? Do they enforce validity rules strictly and refuse boarding if the ID isn’t valid? Or is it more of a luck-of-the-draw situation?
Basically, should I just write off this trip now, or should I still try my luck—maybe with a little tearful plea? Has anyone here had a similar experience? I can’t be the only one, right!
I’m reaching out to ask for your help with a bit of a problem:
I booked a flight to Berlin from Orly for April 15th—it’s coming up fast. But I just made an annoying discovery: my passport expired two weeks ago.
From what I understand, in principle, I can still travel within the Schengen Zone with an expired passport as long as it’s been less than five years. However, EasyJet’s website explicitly requires a valid ID (and just to add to the fun, my national ID card has been expired for a while now).
So, I’d love to know: how strict are EasyJet’s ID checks? Do they enforce validity rules strictly and refuse boarding if the ID isn’t valid? Or is it more of a luck-of-the-draw situation?
Basically, should I just write off this trip now, or should I still try my luck—maybe with a little tearful plea? Has anyone here had a similar experience? I can’t be the only one, right!
Hi there!
Has anyone taken the direct flight from CDG to Las Vegas with Air France?
Looking forward to your feedback!
Hey everyone,
I booked a flight with RyanAir for next month, with the priority+ option and two cabin bags. So I can take a 10 kg bag with dimensions 55x40x20 in the cabin (plus another smaller one). The problem is that the smallest suitcase I have (which is supposed to be designed specifically for cabin size standards, according to the manual) has the following dimensions: 55x37x21, so it's just 1 cm over (wheels included) on one of the measurements.
I wasn’t too worried at first, but I’ve read dozens of stories about people’s misadventures and the hassles they’ve had with RyanAir.
Since I don’t want my suitcase to end up in the hold (that would waste time picking it up when I’m already arriving late and need to get to the city center), nor do I want to pay an extra fee (apparently 50 €) for the outbound and return flights for just 1 centimeter—especially since I paid for the "priority+" option and I’m not exactly rolling in money—I’d love some advice.
Have any of you been in the same situation? I’ve read that with this airline, they check bags in templates (testing them in different positions) and are completely uncompromising. I tried contacting customer service, who, as luck would have it, "don’t handle this kind of request," and a rep I spoke to wasn’t much help.
I know it’s a low-cost airline, and I don’t expect luxury or even kindness, but come on—just 1 cm on a short flight with the + option... I’m a bit overwhelmed by everything I’ve read...
Just to clarify, since I’m going for 8 days, I can’t just take one bag for my stuff. I’ve done that for shorter trips before, and it was a hassle—I even had to buy an extra bag for the return trip... Luckily, the inspector was nice about it!
Thanks so much! I’m a newbie when it comes to air travel :) Hope I posted this in the right section!
I booked a flight with RyanAir for next month, with the priority+ option and two cabin bags. So I can take a 10 kg bag with dimensions 55x40x20 in the cabin (plus another smaller one). The problem is that the smallest suitcase I have (which is supposed to be designed specifically for cabin size standards, according to the manual) has the following dimensions: 55x37x21, so it's just 1 cm over (wheels included) on one of the measurements.
I wasn’t too worried at first, but I’ve read dozens of stories about people’s misadventures and the hassles they’ve had with RyanAir.
Since I don’t want my suitcase to end up in the hold (that would waste time picking it up when I’m already arriving late and need to get to the city center), nor do I want to pay an extra fee (apparently 50 €) for the outbound and return flights for just 1 centimeter—especially since I paid for the "priority+" option and I’m not exactly rolling in money—I’d love some advice.
Have any of you been in the same situation? I’ve read that with this airline, they check bags in templates (testing them in different positions) and are completely uncompromising. I tried contacting customer service, who, as luck would have it, "don’t handle this kind of request," and a rep I spoke to wasn’t much help.
I know it’s a low-cost airline, and I don’t expect luxury or even kindness, but come on—just 1 cm on a short flight with the + option... I’m a bit overwhelmed by everything I’ve read...
Just to clarify, since I’m going for 8 days, I can’t just take one bag for my stuff. I’ve done that for shorter trips before, and it was a hassle—I even had to buy an extra bag for the return trip... Luckily, the inspector was nice about it!
Thanks so much! I’m a newbie when it comes to air travel :) Hope I posted this in the right section!
Hi there,
When I run searches on Skyscanner, I see that only Lufthansa has flights to Seoul with just one stop. Air France doesn’t show up, even though I thought the French airline served Seoul? I can’t even log into the Air France website—it keeps glitching.
When I run searches on Skyscanner, I see that only Lufthansa has flights to Seoul with just one stop. Air France doesn’t show up, even though I thought the French airline served Seoul? I can’t even log into the Air France website—it keeps glitching.
Hi there,
I’d like to return to Uzbekistan next April for 10 days with my husband to visit our son who lives there. We went last July and I bought the flight tickets (direct flight from Paris on Uzbekistan Airways) about 2 months in advance at very reasonable prices. I’ve been checking for late April for a few weeks now, and the tickets are much more expensive and keep rising. I can’t figure out if the prices are going up because it’s still a bit too early to buy and they’ll likely drop if the planes aren’t full, or if it’s because the period is actually in high demand. For reference, last year I bought my son’s ticket on May 30th for a departure on June 3rd—just 3 days later—at a very low price that didn’t budge at all.
Just in case, does anyone know the pricing trends for this airline and can advise me? Should I wait or not?
Thanks, and feel free to ask if you need any tips about the country!
My wife bought a flight ticket (Lucky Air) under her Thai maiden name and was issued a Chinese visa on her new Thai passport but with her French married name (due to administrative requirements). She was denied boarding by the airline in Bangkok for the flight to Kunming—resulting in the loss of our round-trip flight tickets, including mine since we were traveling together—despite presenting both passports at the airline counter at the same time.
Hi there.
I’m planning a trip to Chile, and the fares from the Colombian airline Avianca are really appealing.
Way cheaper than Air France, for example.
That said, the reviews I’ve seen online aren’t great.
What do you think of this airline?
Have any of you taken long-haul flights with Avianca?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Eric