Budget pour trois semaines en Grèce en août 2009?
by Dakos
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour a tous
d apres vous quel budget faut t il pour 3semaine en grece
5 jour a athenes
1 semaine a santorin
le reste a visiter les iles autour de santorin
sejour avec billet d avion aux alentour du 10aout 2009
c est un peu vague mais c est d un budget en gros dont j ai besoin
merci a tous
Bonjour,
Et bien en camping, voiture perso (sans compter les billets de ferries entre les îles et pour venir en Grèce), restaurants raisonnables, ça revient à 300 euros la semaine en moyenne par personne mais davantage sur les îles les plus chères comme Santorin et Mykonos (environ 100 euros de plus par personne).
Et bien en camping, voiture perso (sans compter les billets de ferries entre les îles et pour venir en Grèce), restaurants raisonnables, ça revient à 300 euros la semaine en moyenne par personne mais davantage sur les îles les plus chères comme Santorin et Mykonos (environ 100 euros de plus par personne).
hotel, je dirais 50 euros à deux personnes minimum, voiture de location dans les îles 35 à 40 euros par jour minimum, les prix des ferries sont sur internet, repas simple dans restaurant 12 à 15 euros minimum par personne par repas, un peu plus là où c'est très touristique (Mykonos notamment). Ce sont les prix approximatifs que j'ai payés cette année de mi-septembre à mi-octobre. Certainement un peu plus en haute saison.
Mathilde
Athènes n'est pas forcement une ville très chère, mais choisis bien ton ou tes hotels, ils sont souvent peu calmes et pas tous très propres.
Les tickets d'entrée dans les monuments historiques sont eux, couteux.
Santorin est une Ile chère, les hotels sont couteux et je te conseille de bien travailler ce point avant d'y aller.
je te conseille aussi de faire la traversée en bateau, si possible de nuit. Arriver à Thira au petit matin reste un souvenir inoubliable.
En tout état de cause, pour éviter d'exploser ton budget, penche toi sur ces trous semaines de vacances aussi vite que possible. Si ca t'intéresse, je te filerai quelques adresses.
Jean
Les tickets d'entrée dans les monuments historiques sont eux, couteux.
Santorin est une Ile chère, les hotels sont couteux et je te conseille de bien travailler ce point avant d'y aller.
je te conseille aussi de faire la traversée en bateau, si possible de nuit. Arriver à Thira au petit matin reste un souvenir inoubliable.
En tout état de cause, pour éviter d'exploser ton budget, penche toi sur ces trous semaines de vacances aussi vite que possible. Si ca t'intéresse, je te filerai quelques adresses.
Jean
les hotels typiques à Athènes, ça ne court pas les rues. Athènes est une ville moderne, somme toute assez récente et les hôtels "de charme" ne courent pas les rues.
Personnellement je suis descendu à l'hotel Zappion qui se situe dans une rue calme (un luxe à Athènes) car piétonne. les deux chambres que j'ai eues étaient propres, tout juste rénovées; bonne literie. le tout pour 55€ par jour pour deux, fin aout, c'est très raisonnable ! En plus, il est situé juste a coté du jardin national, et à 10 15 minutes à pied de l'acropole. Bref, un vrai bon plan.
Tu as juste a coté un petit restau typiquement grec le karavitis, rue pausaniou ... Extra, j'en ai fait ma cantine pendant mon séjour là bas et je te jure que rien que d'en reparler, je prendrais bien l'avion pour me replonger dans ses salades grecques ... les vraies !
Sinon, n'hesites pas à sortir de Plaka où les restos sont des machines a touristes. Et zieutes où vont les athéniens, ils déjeunent tard mais connaissent les bons coins. Le routard a quelques adresses mais faut se fier à son flair. Et pas aux photos sur les cartes, souvent signe de bouffe cracra !
Pour Santorin, je te conseille de rester sur la Caldeira car sinon, les petits villages sont loin des coins vraiment extraordinaires. Thira et firostefani sont pas mal, surtout la seconde bourgade mais les hotels sont chers. Ia est pire encore mais c'est sans doute la plus belle ville de l'ile, avec firostefani.
j'ai pris le risque d'aller au village d'akrotiri, au sud de l'ile. Moins touristique, moins léché, mais vraiment calme et tellement plus "du cru" ... les liaisons en bus sont simples pour aller à Thira. Pas cheres non plus. Et tu peux y louer voitures, quads et scoot. je suis descendu à la Carlos Pansion, conseillée par le routard. Super accueil, on y parle français et si on n'est pas un touriste mal léché, vraiment on est super bien reçu. bref, moi j'ai adoré.
Pour le bateau entre Santorin et Athènes, je te conseille vraiment de le faire, de nuit ç'est le top pour découvrir l'ile au petit matin. Tu as des sites de réservations de billets en ligne, en anglais. Fais gaffe aux horaires et aux jours ... En plein été on peut faire le voyage en place éco sur le pont et aller dormir dans les couloirs ou dans les bars. Sinon, il y a des cabines !
pour le reste, je ne sais pas ce que tu veux faire comme excursions. Un conseil toutefois. Prends ton temps et étudie les choses avec soin, les horaires de bus, train (eurk), ferries et autres moyens de transports collectifs ne sont pas toujours prévus pour les touristes, d'un point de vue horaire. Cela dit, on a réussi à se débrouiller avec de la patience.
Voila, j'ai commencé à te répondre plus précvisement. N'hesites pas à cotinuer à me poser des questions !
Jean
Personnellement je suis descendu à l'hotel Zappion qui se situe dans une rue calme (un luxe à Athènes) car piétonne. les deux chambres que j'ai eues étaient propres, tout juste rénovées; bonne literie. le tout pour 55€ par jour pour deux, fin aout, c'est très raisonnable ! En plus, il est situé juste a coté du jardin national, et à 10 15 minutes à pied de l'acropole. Bref, un vrai bon plan.
Tu as juste a coté un petit restau typiquement grec le karavitis, rue pausaniou ... Extra, j'en ai fait ma cantine pendant mon séjour là bas et je te jure que rien que d'en reparler, je prendrais bien l'avion pour me replonger dans ses salades grecques ... les vraies !
Sinon, n'hesites pas à sortir de Plaka où les restos sont des machines a touristes. Et zieutes où vont les athéniens, ils déjeunent tard mais connaissent les bons coins. Le routard a quelques adresses mais faut se fier à son flair. Et pas aux photos sur les cartes, souvent signe de bouffe cracra !
Pour Santorin, je te conseille de rester sur la Caldeira car sinon, les petits villages sont loin des coins vraiment extraordinaires. Thira et firostefani sont pas mal, surtout la seconde bourgade mais les hotels sont chers. Ia est pire encore mais c'est sans doute la plus belle ville de l'ile, avec firostefani.
j'ai pris le risque d'aller au village d'akrotiri, au sud de l'ile. Moins touristique, moins léché, mais vraiment calme et tellement plus "du cru" ... les liaisons en bus sont simples pour aller à Thira. Pas cheres non plus. Et tu peux y louer voitures, quads et scoot. je suis descendu à la Carlos Pansion, conseillée par le routard. Super accueil, on y parle français et si on n'est pas un touriste mal léché, vraiment on est super bien reçu. bref, moi j'ai adoré.
Pour le bateau entre Santorin et Athènes, je te conseille vraiment de le faire, de nuit ç'est le top pour découvrir l'ile au petit matin. Tu as des sites de réservations de billets en ligne, en anglais. Fais gaffe aux horaires et aux jours ... En plein été on peut faire le voyage en place éco sur le pont et aller dormir dans les couloirs ou dans les bars. Sinon, il y a des cabines !
pour le reste, je ne sais pas ce que tu veux faire comme excursions. Un conseil toutefois. Prends ton temps et étudie les choses avec soin, les horaires de bus, train (eurk), ferries et autres moyens de transports collectifs ne sont pas toujours prévus pour les touristes, d'un point de vue horaire. Cela dit, on a réussi à se débrouiller avec de la patience.
Voila, j'ai commencé à te répondre plus précvisement. N'hesites pas à cotinuer à me poser des questions !
Jean
Bonjour,
Jean vous a donné de très bonnes indications.
Je vais tenter de vous en donner d' autres qui viendront en complément. Ce ne sont pas des souvenirs d' antan, je réside sur place, je n' ai donc qu' un très faible mérite...! Bon comme hôtel à Athènes il y en a un autre : Le Carolina, voici les coordonnées : http://tinos-cyclades.com/plugins/diaporama/diaporama.php?lng=fr&diapo_id=59
Le prix comprend le petit déj, il est à 100 m de Monastiraki, à 50 de l' Avenue Athinas, et de la Rue Adrianou très connue. Il est très propre, pas bruyant, avec ascenseur....
Pour ce qui est du budget c'est difficile à déterminer car c'est selon la façon de dépenser de chacun. L' étudiant( e ) va manger des pittas, les fortunés en restau, les " intermédiaires" cherchent les bons rapport qualité / prix et l' indication de Jean des tavernes avec photos de plats est judicieuse. Repérez les tavernes où il y a des grecs, c'est bon signe, ceci évite les tavernes "plume touristes " ! Et encore une info très importante, commandez comme les grecs : Les grecs ne prennent pratiquement jamais le menu, ils demandent " Ti aikaitai ", " Qu' avez vous " ? Et le serveur dit ce qu' ils ont en cuisine... pas dans le congèlateur, car bien souvent le menu est donné aux touistes par le serveur qui évite ainsi d' expliquer tous les plats... Ensuite pas une commande comme en France : Entrée, plat et dessert, mais une assiette de ceci une de cela un plat de ceci et un autre de cela, comme ceci vous goutez de tout, et vous allez voir votre addition diminuer ... Autre astuce : Les bouteille de vin sont assez chères. Les vins blancs locaux sont souvent très bons. Et ils les ont en container ou au tonneau. Vous demandez une carafe de vin au tonneau. Ce ne sera pas au litre mais au kilo ! Vous pouvez noter phonétiquement la phrase pour une carafe de vin blans au tonneau : Aina kilo laifko crassi parakalo ( parakalo = s' il vous plait ) . 3 fois moins cher que la bouteille.
Pour manger à Athènes : De Monastiraki : Rue Miaouli, la taverne REBECCA, vous verrez ses tables peintes à la main. Si vous allez au bout de cette rue très étudiante, d' autres tavernes sympas. Il y a aussi le Scholario je la' i donné sur le Routard et les gens apprécient depuis. Une autre taverne sympa = il faut aller au métro Tissio, ensuite 20 m sur la route piétonne; et sur la droite la première rue, et à 100 m le 3 STEKI TOU ILIA " ( le coin d' Elie ). Spécialité = les Païdakias ( brisures de cotelettes de chevreau au barbecue, avec origan dessus, et leur salade grecque est très belle. Prix extra et carafe de vin au tonneau très bon . En sortant à droite, remonter la rue pietonne vers la droite le soir vue de l' Acropole illuminée, ma plus belle d' Athènes exceptée les terrasses d' hôtels. Cette derière adresse, je l' ai donnée au Routard il y a des années, et la bouffe y est toujours aussi bonne. S' il est fermé, le frère a sa taverne avec même spécialité 100 m plus loin dans cette rue.
Sur les îles en août : Mikonos et Santorin en effet sont très chères.
Une bonne adresse à Santorin avec maison troglodyte sur ce lien : http://tinos-cyclades.com/plugins/diaporama/diaporama.php?lng=fr&diapo_id=35
Profitez de mes photos aériennes de Santorin ....vous n' en trouverez pas d' autres actuellement.
Je ne décrit pas l' arrivée de Santorin par le fery de nuit venant du Pirée.... Jean l' a fait...! Et c'est en effet un superbe spectacle car le ferry entre par l' ouest de la Caldéra. Mettez votre réveil à sonner car l' arrivée est habituellement vers 5 h 00 du matin.
Pour l' Ouzo, que fait le touriste ? Il demande 4 ouzos comme il demande 4 pastis en France. Erreur car l' addition sera plus forte. Le touriste avisé, et maintenant vous le serez, commande une boukalaki d' ouzo, et il aura une petite bouteille avec le contenu de 4 ouzo, mais 2 fois moins cher !
Cordialement,
Bon séjour,
Jean vous a donné de très bonnes indications.
Je vais tenter de vous en donner d' autres qui viendront en complément. Ce ne sont pas des souvenirs d' antan, je réside sur place, je n' ai donc qu' un très faible mérite...! Bon comme hôtel à Athènes il y en a un autre : Le Carolina, voici les coordonnées : http://tinos-cyclades.com/plugins/diaporama/diaporama.php?lng=fr&diapo_id=59
Le prix comprend le petit déj, il est à 100 m de Monastiraki, à 50 de l' Avenue Athinas, et de la Rue Adrianou très connue. Il est très propre, pas bruyant, avec ascenseur....
Pour ce qui est du budget c'est difficile à déterminer car c'est selon la façon de dépenser de chacun. L' étudiant( e ) va manger des pittas, les fortunés en restau, les " intermédiaires" cherchent les bons rapport qualité / prix et l' indication de Jean des tavernes avec photos de plats est judicieuse. Repérez les tavernes où il y a des grecs, c'est bon signe, ceci évite les tavernes "plume touristes " ! Et encore une info très importante, commandez comme les grecs : Les grecs ne prennent pratiquement jamais le menu, ils demandent " Ti aikaitai ", " Qu' avez vous " ? Et le serveur dit ce qu' ils ont en cuisine... pas dans le congèlateur, car bien souvent le menu est donné aux touistes par le serveur qui évite ainsi d' expliquer tous les plats... Ensuite pas une commande comme en France : Entrée, plat et dessert, mais une assiette de ceci une de cela un plat de ceci et un autre de cela, comme ceci vous goutez de tout, et vous allez voir votre addition diminuer ... Autre astuce : Les bouteille de vin sont assez chères. Les vins blancs locaux sont souvent très bons. Et ils les ont en container ou au tonneau. Vous demandez une carafe de vin au tonneau. Ce ne sera pas au litre mais au kilo ! Vous pouvez noter phonétiquement la phrase pour une carafe de vin blans au tonneau : Aina kilo laifko crassi parakalo ( parakalo = s' il vous plait ) . 3 fois moins cher que la bouteille.
Pour manger à Athènes : De Monastiraki : Rue Miaouli, la taverne REBECCA, vous verrez ses tables peintes à la main. Si vous allez au bout de cette rue très étudiante, d' autres tavernes sympas. Il y a aussi le Scholario je la' i donné sur le Routard et les gens apprécient depuis. Une autre taverne sympa = il faut aller au métro Tissio, ensuite 20 m sur la route piétonne; et sur la droite la première rue, et à 100 m le 3 STEKI TOU ILIA " ( le coin d' Elie ). Spécialité = les Païdakias ( brisures de cotelettes de chevreau au barbecue, avec origan dessus, et leur salade grecque est très belle. Prix extra et carafe de vin au tonneau très bon . En sortant à droite, remonter la rue pietonne vers la droite le soir vue de l' Acropole illuminée, ma plus belle d' Athènes exceptée les terrasses d' hôtels. Cette derière adresse, je l' ai donnée au Routard il y a des années, et la bouffe y est toujours aussi bonne. S' il est fermé, le frère a sa taverne avec même spécialité 100 m plus loin dans cette rue.
Sur les îles en août : Mikonos et Santorin en effet sont très chères.
Une bonne adresse à Santorin avec maison troglodyte sur ce lien : http://tinos-cyclades.com/plugins/diaporama/diaporama.php?lng=fr&diapo_id=35
Profitez de mes photos aériennes de Santorin ....vous n' en trouverez pas d' autres actuellement.
Je ne décrit pas l' arrivée de Santorin par le fery de nuit venant du Pirée.... Jean l' a fait...! Et c'est en effet un superbe spectacle car le ferry entre par l' ouest de la Caldéra. Mettez votre réveil à sonner car l' arrivée est habituellement vers 5 h 00 du matin.
Pour l' Ouzo, que fait le touriste ? Il demande 4 ouzos comme il demande 4 pastis en France. Erreur car l' addition sera plus forte. Le touriste avisé, et maintenant vous le serez, commande une boukalaki d' ouzo, et il aura une petite bouteille avec le contenu de 4 ouzo, mais 2 fois moins cher !
Cordialement,
Bon séjour,
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- Athens, 4 nights - Corinth area, 2 nights (Heraion of Perachora, Canal, Acrocorinth) - Nafplio, 3 nights (Mycenae, Epidaurus, Methana peninsula) - Gefira, 2 nights (Monemvasia) - Areopoli, 2 nights (Mani). Maybe add an extra night and stay on the peninsula??? Based on my calculations, the Mani loop is about 100 km—doable in a day, but it’d be a quick trip. - Sparta or Pikoulianika, 2 nights (Mystras) - Dimitsana, 2 nights (Lousios Gorge, monasteries) - Olympia, 2 nights (via Lagkadia?) - Delphi or Arachova, 3 nights (via the west coast, Galaxidi bridge) (Delphi, Hosios Loukas Monastery) - And back to Athens.
This is just a rough draft for now. We’re planning to stay in hotels or book through Booking.com. What do you think? Thanks for your feedback and suggestions!
- Athens, 4 nights - Corinth area, 2 nights (Heraion of Perachora, Canal, Acrocorinth) - Nafplio, 3 nights (Mycenae, Epidaurus, Methana peninsula) - Gefira, 2 nights (Monemvasia) - Areopoli, 2 nights (Mani). Maybe add an extra night and stay on the peninsula??? Based on my calculations, the Mani loop is about 100 km—doable in a day, but it’d be a quick trip. - Sparta or Pikoulianika, 2 nights (Mystras) - Dimitsana, 2 nights (Lousios Gorge, monasteries) - Olympia, 2 nights (via Lagkadia?) - Delphi or Arachova, 3 nights (via the west coast, Galaxidi bridge) (Delphi, Hosios Loukas Monastery) - And back to Athens.
This is just a rough draft for now. We’re planning to stay in hotels or book through Booking.com. What do you think? Thanks for your feedback and suggestions!
Over the past twenty-five years, I’ve traveled the roads between France and Moldova a good ten times, sometimes via Central Europe, other times via the Balkans.
It was while traveling like this—what I call "hitting the road the slow way"—that I realized something simple: our neighbors' neighbors are very clearly our neighbors too. And that’s not insignificant.
Proof: https://etreounepasetrebretillien.com/2018/03/19/moldova-mea/ 🤓
After a break of a few years, I’m planning to hit the road again in September, this time heading to Kosovo, crossing through Bosnia-Herzegovina and Montenegro.
Having gotten a bit older, I’ve no intention of rushing—no need to speed ahead of the music! 😄
I’d rather take my time.
I’m not looking to see everything, but to soak in the atmosphere of the places, always leaving room for the unexpected and for encounters.
I’m especially drawn to culturally immersive, authentic, and welcoming regions: lively villages, backroads, preserved landscapes, markets, local festivals, traditions that are still very much alive... and, why not, a few offbeat, forgotten, or slightly secret spots.
If any of you know Bosnia-Herzegovina, Montenegro, or Kosovo a little, I’d love to hear your suggestions for itineraries, stops, backroads, homestays, village festivals, or local contacts, for example.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
It was while traveling like this—what I call "hitting the road the slow way"—that I realized something simple: our neighbors' neighbors are very clearly our neighbors too. And that’s not insignificant.
Proof: https://etreounepasetrebretillien.com/2018/03/19/moldova-mea/ 🤓
After a break of a few years, I’m planning to hit the road again in September, this time heading to Kosovo, crossing through Bosnia-Herzegovina and Montenegro.
Having gotten a bit older, I’ve no intention of rushing—no need to speed ahead of the music! 😄
I’d rather take my time.
I’m not looking to see everything, but to soak in the atmosphere of the places, always leaving room for the unexpected and for encounters.
I’m especially drawn to culturally immersive, authentic, and welcoming regions: lively villages, backroads, preserved landscapes, markets, local festivals, traditions that are still very much alive... and, why not, a few offbeat, forgotten, or slightly secret spots.
If any of you know Bosnia-Herzegovina, Montenegro, or Kosovo a little, I’d love to hear your suggestions for itineraries, stops, backroads, homestays, village festivals, or local contacts, for example.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Planning to return to Belarus in mid-August, I just realized that since last September, Poland has reopened several border crossing points, and for buses, this means connections like Białystok-Grodno.
The official Polish page: https://granica.gov.pl/index_wait.php?p=b&c=t&v=pl&k=w

Several bus company routes, like on infobus.eu, take between 3 and 4 hours. Trains from Warsaw to Białystok take about 1.5 to 2 hours. This has the advantage of allowing comfortable train journeys with minimal time spent on a bus. Also, the Terespol-Brest border might have shorter queues if you still prefer a Warsaw-Brest bus.
Note that another route to Minsk, if you have a paper Russian or Belarusian visa, is the Kaliningrad-Minsk train. It’s long—around ten or eleven hours—but you can lie down and sleep. An option if you fly into Gdańsk and then take a short bus to Kaliningrad.
There are also Belavia flights from Minsk to Kaliningrad, but they’re expensive. The route is scenic:

In any case, this adds a few more options compared to what’s been available over the last four years.
The official Polish page: https://granica.gov.pl/index_wait.php?p=b&c=t&v=pl&k=w

Several bus company routes, like on infobus.eu, take between 3 and 4 hours. Trains from Warsaw to Białystok take about 1.5 to 2 hours. This has the advantage of allowing comfortable train journeys with minimal time spent on a bus. Also, the Terespol-Brest border might have shorter queues if you still prefer a Warsaw-Brest bus.
Note that another route to Minsk, if you have a paper Russian or Belarusian visa, is the Kaliningrad-Minsk train. It’s long—around ten or eleven hours—but you can lie down and sleep. An option if you fly into Gdańsk and then take a short bus to Kaliningrad.
There are also Belavia flights from Minsk to Kaliningrad, but they’re expensive. The route is scenic:

In any case, this adds a few more options compared to what’s been available over the last four years.
Hi there.
I’d like to know what the daily budget is for Greece in December. I’ll be landing in Athens and staying there for a week, then heading to some other islands—I don’t have a set itinerary yet. Also, I’ve heard that in December, or early January, the temperature is around 11–16°C. Is that accurate?
Finally, does anyone have a good recommendation for a cheap but clean hotel near the tourist sites? I don’t need a TV or any other extras. Also, is Greece gay-friendly?
Thanks in advance for your replies. Best regards
Finally, does anyone have a good recommendation for a cheap but clean hotel near the tourist sites? I don’t need a TV or any other extras. Also, is Greece gay-friendly?
Thanks in advance for your replies. Best regards
hi
I’d like to know the opening hours of physical stores between Germany and Austria, and between Austria and Slovenia, that sell the PAPER STICKER toll vignettes that still exist for 2026—non-digital ones. I don’t think they’re open 24/7, and I can’t find the info anywhere. Thanks
I’d like to know the opening hours of physical stores between Germany and Austria, and between Austria and Slovenia, that sell the PAPER STICKER toll vignettes that still exist for 2026—non-digital ones. I don’t think they’re open 24/7, and I can’t find the info anywhere. Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week trip in late September with our camper van to explore Bulgaria and Romania.
What routes would you recommend, starting from the South?
Is there an option to take a ferry in Italy, and is it worth it?
Thanks for all your tips!😊
Hi there, we’re a young couple and we’d love to go to the Blue Eye (Syri i Kalter) between today (26/06/26) and tomorrow (27/06/26).
Is anyone heading there and could give us a ride? We’re super friendly!
Thanks so much!
Maya and Sullivan
Maya and Sullivan
We're back. It's still a bit tough to get precise info, so here's a quick trip report!
A good starting point is Shkoder, a really pleasant city. You can easily explore Shkoder itself in a day or two.
Two accessible spots: Valbona and Theth. In both cases, local travel agencies in Shkoder or online offer round-trip or one-way access packages. Super handy, especially for Valbona.
Valbona and Theth are both very steep! There aren’t many easy hikes for less sporty folks (like me!).
Valbona: The highlight is the amazing 2.5-hour boat ride across Lake Koman. There are day trips from Shkoder, but you’ll only get a short tour of the lake. The best option is to do the full crossing—so spend a night in Valbona (or two if you want to hike in the valley) and return.
Theth is deeply nestled in the mountains. The village at the end of the valley, which is a dead end, has lots of hotels, but they’re pricey. Other hostels are scattered along the mountainside road, but it’s a steep climb down to the village or to the start of the two easy hikes (waterfalls and the Blue Eye). For us, it was a one-hour descent (and ascent!). It’s fine if you have a car; otherwise, keep an eye out for a taxi (cheap) or try hitchhiking—it works really well. Access from Shkoder to Theth is through an agency. The road is in great condition, and you can also rent a car for 2-3 days in Shkoder. If we did it again, that’s the option we’d choose.
We didn’t do the trek and returned to Shkoder each time. I can’t speak to its difficulty, but we were there in late May, and even experienced hikers had given up because of heavy rain and snow.
Hope this helps! It’s a stunning region you shouldn’t miss.
A good starting point is Shkoder, a really pleasant city. You can easily explore Shkoder itself in a day or two.
Two accessible spots: Valbona and Theth. In both cases, local travel agencies in Shkoder or online offer round-trip or one-way access packages. Super handy, especially for Valbona.
Valbona and Theth are both very steep! There aren’t many easy hikes for less sporty folks (like me!).
Valbona: The highlight is the amazing 2.5-hour boat ride across Lake Koman. There are day trips from Shkoder, but you’ll only get a short tour of the lake. The best option is to do the full crossing—so spend a night in Valbona (or two if you want to hike in the valley) and return.
Theth is deeply nestled in the mountains. The village at the end of the valley, which is a dead end, has lots of hotels, but they’re pricey. Other hostels are scattered along the mountainside road, but it’s a steep climb down to the village or to the start of the two easy hikes (waterfalls and the Blue Eye). For us, it was a one-hour descent (and ascent!). It’s fine if you have a car; otherwise, keep an eye out for a taxi (cheap) or try hitchhiking—it works really well. Access from Shkoder to Theth is through an agency. The road is in great condition, and you can also rent a car for 2-3 days in Shkoder. If we did it again, that’s the option we’d choose.
We didn’t do the trek and returned to Shkoder each time. I can’t speak to its difficulty, but we were there in late May, and even experienced hikers had given up because of heavy rain and snow.
Hope this helps! It’s a stunning region you shouldn’t miss.
We’re a Canadian couple, both 77, and we’re already planning our vacation for fall 2027.
Timeframe: mid-September to mid-October... dates are flexible, and we might stay even longer.
Initially, I had planned this itinerary:
Athens (3), Naxos (4), Paros (4), Santorini (4), then a flight to Istanbul (7–10 days!!). This would let us maximize our flights and experience another culture.
That’s a lot of ferries, though... I’ve already cut out Milos.
Our second option would be to stay 2 x 15 days on two different islands, but I’d still keep Istanbul as our next destination... or maybe 30 days on one island that offers the chance to take day trips to other islands where the ferry ride is no more than 2 to 2.5 hours. For example, Naxos to Paros only takes 30 minutes. We could return the same evening or stay overnight.
Naxos seems like the best option!!!
For Istanbul, of course we want to do a day cruise on the Bosphorus and see Hagia Sophia. If we stay 6–7 days, what would be the other main attractions? Are there any points of interest we can reach by local bus?
Our second option would be to stay 2 x 15 days on two different islands, but I’d still keep Istanbul as our next destination... or maybe 30 days on one island that offers the chance to take day trips to other islands where the ferry ride is no more than 2 to 2.5 hours. For example, Naxos to Paros only takes 30 minutes. We could return the same evening or stay overnight.
Naxos seems like the best option!!!
For Istanbul, of course we want to do a day cruise on the Bosphorus and see Hagia Sophia. If we stay 6–7 days, what would be the other main attractions? Are there any points of interest we can reach by local bus?
Hi there!
We bought our tickets to Greece at the end of November 2025, and let’s just say the geopolitical climate has really taken a turn since then with the war started by the United States against Iran. Not to mention all the other conflicts happening around the world 😕... Anyway!
Our flight from Montreal is on May 1st, and I was wondering how things are currently being experienced in Greece.
We were planning to rent a car and had already booked accommodations on three Cyclades islands!!
The oil shortage is also worrying us...
If you could share some insights on this, that would be great!
Thanks!!
Thanks!!
A little trip report from an 11-day journey to Albania at the end of April 2026, with two friends in their early sixties and beyond...
Our route: Berat, Gjirokastër, Himarë, Tirana
Here are some opinions, tips, and great deals to share:
Flight Round-trip Beauvais-Tirana: Ryanair, 260 € with checked baggage (20 kg) and seat selection. Flight was fine and on time. 2h 30min flight.
Exchange: 1 € was worth 95 lek in April 2026. We were advised to exchange in the airport hall at the Illiria counter (98 lek outside the security zone), saying we wouldn’t find a better rate. However, the exchange rate was 93 lek for 1 euro, while in the city it was 95...
Car rental at Tirana airport for 9 days via Booking.com: 144 € (56 € for the car rental and 88 € for optional full insurance deductible waiver).
Wheego agency: the car was fine, but be careful when signing the contract—they tried to convince us that the insurance taken through Booking didn’t cover everything and insisted we take their own insurance for 250 €... We refused.
After reading about driving in Tirana, instead of starting our trip by visiting the capital, we decided to head straight to Berat upon arrival and return the car at the end of the trip to explore the city on foot. This turned out to be a great choice!
Accommodations: All our stays were booked via Booking.com. Everyone prefers to be paid in euros and in cash—they mention this when booking.
Berat: 2-hour drive from the airport.
Accommodation: Vila Arben Elezi: 135 € for 3 nights with breakfast and private parking. The room was decent and clean but a bit dark, located slightly below ground level near the parking. However, the breakfast on the rooftop was excellent, especially with the stunning view of the "city of a thousand windows." Great location.
Berat was our favorite—there are lovely walks through the different neighborhoods on both sides of the river, each with a very different vibe. The citadel visit is also fascinating, as it’s like a small town within the fortress.
The walk along the river is pleasant, with plenty of restaurant choices. Other restaurants in the old town are also very nice. The White House Restaurant, on the first floor along the road, is good and offers a great view of the Gorica district.
Gjirokastër:
Accommodation: Te Ajdini Guest House: 120 € for 3 nights with breakfast. A private home stay. There’s free parking just before entering the city, a 5-minute walk from the accommodation, which is very convenient since the cobblestone streets are narrow and parking is tricky. Yes, it’s a climb to get to the place, but everything in this city is uphill... The room was bright and clean. Breakfast was very good, hearty, and served in the courtyard with a view of the castle. The guesthouse is a 5-minute walk from the city center (the bazaar) but in a quiet area.
Restaurants: Rrapi and Kujtimi—good and affordable with their little pergolas.
The old town of Gjirokastër is charming but very touristy, with streets packed with souvenir shops and restaurant tables and chairs. Lots of people.
-The bunker visit (near the tourist office) is very interesting: Cold War Tunnel.
The castle offers a beautiful view of the city.
-Visit to the Ottoman house Skenduli: very well done. Don’t forget to climb the ladder facing a trapdoor in the ceiling to see the roof’s framework—it’s like a forest of beams: impressive!
-The bridge Ura e Ali Pasha: A steep 45-minute climb from the city to the site is worth it, but once you reach the viewpoint (which is stunning), you have to go back down a path to reach the bridge. You can drive to the viewpoint, but parking is very tricky.
Around Gjirokastër:
-Just outside the city: Lake Liqeni i Viroit: a nice, ordinary-looking lake, but at the end, there’s a natural spring making the water crystal clear and a brilliant blue—really spectacular, like photos of Blue Eye near Sarandë.
-Drive to Përmet along the gorges: beautiful viewpoints along the way and lovely countryside.
Himarë:
Accommodation: Vila Kosteli: 120 € for 2 nights with breakfast—slightly overpriced for this type of place but very close to a small beach and not far from the promenade with all the restaurants. Private parking, but very tight (4 cars on a tiny lot along the road). The "sea view" room is a bit obstructed by the building across the street. However, the rooftop breakfast view is beautiful. Friendly staff.
Himarë is a pleasant seaside resort, quite calm (but it was April...). There’s a cute promenade with restaurants along the beach. The castle on the heights of Himarë is worth a visit.
Around Himarë:
-Qeparo is worth a quick stop, but Qeparo village is really worth the detour: a village lost in the heights after a scenic drive up from the coastal road—narrow but well-maintained. Beautiful view from the top and a charming village.
-The Big Bunker and Llogora Panorama: take a right turn several kilometers after Dhermi—a road that climbs steeply from the start... A breathtaking winding road that reaches 900 meters in altitude. The view is stunning.
-Several small villages between Dhermi and Himarë are worth a quick stop.
-Porto Palermo Castle is somewhat disappointing.
Tirana:
Taxi from Tirana airport to the city center: 15 € with electric taxis (Green Taxi, Bee Taxi, Do Taxi).
Accommodation: Hotel Nevi Apartment: 63 € for 2 nights. A private apartment in an older building but very clean and well-equipped, with a kitchen and small enclosed balcony.
Great welcome and contact—the owner even booked a taxi for our departure. Very well located, close to the main square, shops, and restaurants. A small supermarket nearby is perfect for stocking up on breakfast supplies.
The city is lively and dynamic, with plenty of green spaces and promenades. Buildings are popping up everywhere, often with surprising architecture—like a building shaped like a face, a huge golden cube, and many others under construction.
-Sky Tower: at the top, a rotating bar offers a 360° view of the city and its buildings. Drinks are a bit pricier than usual, but it’s totally worth it (6 € for a beer or a glass of white wine, 3 € for coffee). We were there for sunset, and it was amazing! A must-do. Arrive early, as it fills up quickly.
-The House of Leaves: a house used for secret surveillance and interrogations during the dictatorship... A great way to learn about the surveillance systems of that era.
-Bunk’Art 2: a bunker in the heart of the city—very interesting, covering the dictatorship period and its system...
-The Pazari i Ri Bazaar: the new bazaar district. The large hall is worth a visit, but souvenir prices are often higher than elsewhere... The area is nice.
Restaurant: Kastrati Restaurant—a bit like a canteen with lots of traditional dishes. It’s on the first floor of a building. Excellent value for money, and the waitress explains the dishes in French.
That’s a little overview of our trip and my personal impressions! Albania is a beautiful and pleasant country to visit. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
That’s a little overview of our trip and my personal impressions! Albania is a beautiful and pleasant country to visit. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
What are the main sights to visit on Rhodes itself or the surrounding islands, and what’s the weather like? We’re leaving on May 18th.
Hi everyone,
We’re thinking of spending 3 weeks in Crete between mid-August and early September, renting a car, quickly exploring a few spots in the east, and focusing on the west, southwest, and south.
I’m worried about the heavy tourist crowds. Is it really more noticeable than elsewhere in Greece? Is there a way to avoid the crowds without missing out on the iconic places, which I imagine are stunning in Crete? Thanks for your thoughts and experiences!
Hi,
I'm heading to Greece via Albania soon. Does anyone have info on transportation from Gjirokastër to Ioannina?
Which company, fares, and schedules—it's not very clear with Google.
Thanks!
Patrice
Thanks!
Patrice
Hi everyone,
I’m just passing through Bratislava quickly (one afternoon, one night, one morning) and I’d love to see the highlights of the city. I’ve put together a little itinerary—feel free to let me know what you think!
Start at the castle and its beautiful viewpoint Visit the Baroque gardens St. Martin’s Cathedral, quick visit National Theatre Discover the Cumil statues Primatial Palace via Hlavné Namestie Michael’s Gate Grassalkovich Palace via Obchodna Walk across Namesti Slobody to head back to the upside-down pyramid Head down to the Blue Church Cross the Danube to see Sad Janka Krala, then return via the UFO Bridge There you go—10 km and a packed day! What do you think?
Thanks, Stéphane.
I’m just passing through Bratislava quickly (one afternoon, one night, one morning) and I’d love to see the highlights of the city. I’ve put together a little itinerary—feel free to let me know what you think!
Start at the castle and its beautiful viewpoint Visit the Baroque gardens St. Martin’s Cathedral, quick visit National Theatre Discover the Cumil statues Primatial Palace via Hlavné Namestie Michael’s Gate Grassalkovich Palace via Obchodna Walk across Namesti Slobody to head back to the upside-down pyramid Head down to the Blue Church Cross the Danube to see Sad Janka Krala, then return via the UFO Bridge There you go—10 km and a packed day! What do you think?
Thanks, Stéphane.
Hi,
I’m renting a car in Greece (Heraklion).
Should I get extra insurance?
What’s driving like with the Greeks?
Thanks for any tips!
Hi there,
we’re heading to Crete from May 8th to 15th, staying at a hotel in Agia Pelagia, 20 km from Heraklion, on half-board, so we’ll be back every evening. What daily itinerary would you recommend? We love hiking and discovering local cultures...
Thanks in advance!!





