Ce voyage qui m'a défait...
by Nicoetad
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Peut-être que ce sujet existe déjà, j'aimerais avoir des témoignages de personnes qui ont pris une vraie claque et qui n'ont jamais compris pourquoi... J'ai vécu dans 5 pays différents, je revenais de 7 mois dans un pays de même "culture" qui m'avais transformée; j'étais devenue la personne que je révais d'être et là, je suis devenue... vide. Et malgré mes autres expériences, je me sens toujours comme ça. Je n'ai plus jamais laissé personne dire que toutes les expériences sont bonnes ou que ce qui ne tue pas rend plus fort...
C'était dans quel pays? Qu'est-ce qui t'a rendu vide et pourquoi?
Et au fait, qu'appelles-tu te sentir vide?
Un ami m'a dit: Le monde serait meilleur si chacun-e regardait dans l'assiette de l'autre et y rajoutait ce qu'il y manque
Je ne veux pas dire dans quel pays c'était, je ne sais pas trop pourquoi.
La premiére semaine a été formidable, puis pendant 6 mois, tous les matins je me levait en me disant "bon, qu'est ce qui va encore nous arriver aujourd'hui...?". Nous étions 9 filles, accueillies dans des familles; 6 filles sont rentrées plus tôt que prévu car elles ne tenaient pas le coup et moi je pensais que dans 10 ans ce qu'il me resterait ce serait uniquement la fierté d'être restée.
Le vide c'est le manque d'énergie, le manque de motivation, une hypersensibilité qui fait que je ne peux plus rien faire alors que j'étais trés forte (je voulais devenir infirmiére dans l'humanitaire, je me sentais 100 fois la force de le faire). Je pense que ce voyage m'a pris toute l'énergie dont j'avais besoin pour le reste de ma vie.
J'ai fini par croire que tous les gens sont fonciérement mauvais, que même ceux qui travaillent avec les enfants des rues le font pour détourner les aides.
Le fait de me faire accoster dans la rue tous les 200 métres était trés dur aussi: 1 fois, 2 fois, 3 fois ça passe, mais 20 fois par jour pendant 6 mois, entre les garçons qui pensent réellement que tu vas les sauver et les emmener dans ton pays et ceux qui t'insultent...
Mais la vérité c'est que je ne sais pas vraiment ce qui s'est passé, c'est bien là le probléme, je ne sais pas si je ne me suis pas adaptée (mais les autres filles avec moi, et celles que j'ai rencontré vivaient la même chose), où si nous ne sommes pas fait pour vivre dans certains pays.
Et depuis quand es-tu rentrée?
A mon avis, ce n'est qu'un passage, tu as sans doute besoin de réfléchir à tout ce que tu as vécu, de prendre une pause, et il n'y a pas de mal à ça. Ca prendra le temps que ça prendra, mais tu finiras, à mon avis, par en retirer quelque chose qui te permettra de te connaître mieux, d'appréhender mieux le monde et d'aller de l'avant en sachant mieux ce dont tu as envie.
Tous les gens ne sont pas foncièrement mauvais, regardes toi toi-même et les gens de ton entourage et tu verras bien que ça n'est pas le cas. Personne n'est non plus foncièrement bon (enfin sauf moi 😇). J'ai l'impression, en te lisant, que tu as "fantasmé" sur l'humanitaire, et que finalement tu t'es rendue compte que ça n'est pas aussi rose que ce que tu pensais. Mais je peux me tromper car tu ne donnes pas beaucoup de détails sur ce que tu faisais là-bas et pourquoi.
J'ai eu aussi des problèmes d'intégration lors de mon séjour en Arménie, ainsi que des problèmes avec les gars qui me suivaient (mais pas autant que toi), et la mentalité, le fait de voir aussi que les assos étaient corrompues et profitaient des aides de l'Europe. D'autres volontaires ont eu des moments vraiment difficiles, certains n'ont jamais réussi à se sentir bien en Arménie. C'est un choc culturel inévitable quand on vit une longue période dans un pays totalement différent.
Prends ton temps, je ne vois pas quoi te dire d'autre.
J'ai eu aussi des problèmes d'intégration lors de mon séjour en Arménie, ainsi que des problèmes avec les gars qui me suivaient (mais pas autant que toi), et la mentalité, le fait de voir aussi que les assos étaient corrompues et profitaient des aides de l'Europe. D'autres volontaires ont eu des moments vraiment difficiles, certains n'ont jamais réussi à se sentir bien en Arménie. C'est un choc culturel inévitable quand on vit une longue période dans un pays totalement différent.
Prends ton temps, je ne vois pas quoi te dire d'autre.
Un ami m'a dit: Le monde serait meilleur si chacun-e regardait dans l'assiette de l'autre et y rajoutait ce qu'il y manque
Tout à fait d'accord sur le fait que je fantasmais l'humanitaire; je voulais changer le monde et c'est lui qui m'a changé...
Par contre je suis revenue en 2001... et depuis j'ai vécu au Mexique et à Montréal, 2 epxériences formidables mais qui n'ont pas tout effacé car je ne suis plus la même quand même, je suis devenue timide et un peu coincée... bref, merci des tes réponses!
... je fantasmais l'humanitaire; je voulais changer le monde ...
Peut-être que ce voyage a simplement défait une forme d'illusion, en faisant voler en éclats de manière un peu brutale les "filtres" que l'on met entre soi et la réalité... Filtres que sont par exemples l'excès de certitude... l'adhésion sans recul aux chemins tracés...
La timidité, la réticence : un peu coincée... requalifie les en humilité, c'est beaucoup plus positif... 🙂 Avancer dans la vie les yeux ouverts et avec humilité est peut-être plus difficile, mais c'est une chance et une force, même si tu ne les perçois pas tout de suite...
Cette expérience remonte à quelques années (2001 ?)... Le temps ne l'effacera certes pas, mais va continuer à l'adoucir et à lui donner un sens...
Peut-être que ce voyage a simplement défait une forme d'illusion, en faisant voler en éclats de manière un peu brutale les "filtres" que l'on met entre soi et la réalité... Filtres que sont par exemples l'excès de certitude... l'adhésion sans recul aux chemins tracés...
La timidité, la réticence : un peu coincée... requalifie les en humilité, c'est beaucoup plus positif... 🙂 Avancer dans la vie les yeux ouverts et avec humilité est peut-être plus difficile, mais c'est une chance et une force, même si tu ne les perçois pas tout de suite...
Cette expérience remonte à quelques années (2001 ?)... Le temps ne l'effacera certes pas, mais va continuer à l'adoucir et à lui donner un sens...
BONJOUR
je ne sais quel pays t'a laissé ce sentiment, mais peut importe!j'ai aussi connu cette lassitude voire ce dégout..mais l'homme n'est pas foncierement mauvais, au contraire je pense qu'il fondementalement bon.c'est son environnement qui le rend aigri, calculateur et cupide.il faut etre au dessus de tout ça, agir pour avoir la conscience tranquille.on fini toujours par rencontrer des gens qui le reconnaissent.et c'est déjà une grande satisfaction.ta grande ambition, ta volonté d'aider, d'apporter quelque chose peut, certe etre entravée par la non reconnaissance de ta démarche, mais peu importe, si quelqu'un a compris, a mesuré ton action, c'est déjà gagné et tu ne te sera pas investie pour rien.tu n'as sans doute rien à te reprocher, tu n'est peut etre pas allée au bout de ce que tu voulait faire mais c'est normal.quand on prend ce chemin là il faut savoir qu'il est long et semé d'embuche.l'essentiel c'est d'avoir fait la démarche, et c'est tout à ton honneur.ne soit pas dégoutée, au contraire soit fiere, ils sont rare les gens qui s'interrogent de la sorte.
yoyo
je n'ai jamais vecu une histoire pareille mais je peux te dire que L’oublie est bénédiction et les souvenirs sont source de souffrance .......
je partage ta reponse ta fine analyse au vecu de nicoeda
j ajouterais ( est ce mon grand age et l experience de la vie )
etre humble et confiante avec soi aide a l etre avec les autres mais attention il ne s agit pas d etre naive et s illusionner
oui dans certains pays ( et en plus parfois ca marche ) une jeune fille est un potentiel de reve pour acceder a l inaccesible a l illusoire
c est tres dur psychologiquement( SI ON Y EST PAS PREPARE ) d etre prise pour un dollard sur pattes ou pour un objet de desir qui n est pas toi mais ce que tu REPRESENTES
CA PEU FAIRE TRES MAL
mais nicoeda ce n est peux etre ca et autre chose
est ce que ca peu t aider ce qu on dit la, , , ????
cahour martine
Bonjour nicoeta,
C’est étrange pour moi de lire ces commentaires. Je pensais être disons un peu spécial et seul à avoir eu se ressentir. Le dollar sur patte n’a pas été le plus difficile. Ce qui est difficile à supporter après avoir voyagé, surtout la ou la misère (sous toutes ses formes) sévit, c’est cette impression de vide et de rupture entre les réalités et leurs perceptions. Quelque chose que l’on ne parvient pas à analyser. Quelque chose qui fait que l’on ne sache même plus sur quel coin de terre ou on pourrait trouver son propre apaisement. Vide. Oui c’est bien le mot. On va dans un coin, on en revient, on écoute ce qui se dit de ce coin et on essaie, a son échelle, de corriger, de faire part de son propre vécu. On ne comprend pas pourquoi les medias ne disent pas l’exacte vérité et pourquoi les politiques jouent sur les mots, pourquoi les gens qui nous écoutent restent septiques. Le décalage. C’est a ce moment je pense ou l’on devient seul au fond de sois même. C’est à ce moment ou nait cette sensation que tout cela est une énorme foutaise. C’est à ce moment aussi où l’énergie nous quitte. L’espoir aussi. On ne se sent pas bien ici, ni la, et on se demande alors ou ? Recherche pour oublier, mal d’avoir découvert cette réalité. C’est un passage à vide qu’il faut surmonter. Quelques pleurs qu’il faut accepter. Un autre voyage mais cette fois-ci en sois. Apprendre à accepter que le monde est ce qu’il est, qu’il évolue a sa façon. J’ai passé le premier stade de cet apprentissage et je regarde de nouveau ce monde avec des envies de projets. Ce qui est certain, c’est que je n’essaierai plus d’essayer de comprendre ce qui est incompréhensible. Cela fait trop mal. Je garderai au fond de moi ce qui ne peut être partagé tout simplement parce que cela pourrait heurter. J’ai aussi accepté le fait que je ne serai jamais prêt à regarder en face certaines réalités. Il n’est pas lâche d’accepter et de vouloir vivre sa propre vie sans trop regarder au loin. Voila nicoetad. C’est mon message. Ton expérience t’aura grandi et certainement assagie. Tu as plein de choses douces et belles sur cette terre qui te tendent la main et tu as aussi beaucoup de choses a offrir. Découvre les et dis-toi que notre propre force a ses limites. Sache ne pas les depasser. Thierry
C’est étrange pour moi de lire ces commentaires. Je pensais être disons un peu spécial et seul à avoir eu se ressentir. Le dollar sur patte n’a pas été le plus difficile. Ce qui est difficile à supporter après avoir voyagé, surtout la ou la misère (sous toutes ses formes) sévit, c’est cette impression de vide et de rupture entre les réalités et leurs perceptions. Quelque chose que l’on ne parvient pas à analyser. Quelque chose qui fait que l’on ne sache même plus sur quel coin de terre ou on pourrait trouver son propre apaisement. Vide. Oui c’est bien le mot. On va dans un coin, on en revient, on écoute ce qui se dit de ce coin et on essaie, a son échelle, de corriger, de faire part de son propre vécu. On ne comprend pas pourquoi les medias ne disent pas l’exacte vérité et pourquoi les politiques jouent sur les mots, pourquoi les gens qui nous écoutent restent septiques. Le décalage. C’est a ce moment je pense ou l’on devient seul au fond de sois même. C’est à ce moment ou nait cette sensation que tout cela est une énorme foutaise. C’est à ce moment aussi où l’énergie nous quitte. L’espoir aussi. On ne se sent pas bien ici, ni la, et on se demande alors ou ? Recherche pour oublier, mal d’avoir découvert cette réalité. C’est un passage à vide qu’il faut surmonter. Quelques pleurs qu’il faut accepter. Un autre voyage mais cette fois-ci en sois. Apprendre à accepter que le monde est ce qu’il est, qu’il évolue a sa façon. J’ai passé le premier stade de cet apprentissage et je regarde de nouveau ce monde avec des envies de projets. Ce qui est certain, c’est que je n’essaierai plus d’essayer de comprendre ce qui est incompréhensible. Cela fait trop mal. Je garderai au fond de moi ce qui ne peut être partagé tout simplement parce que cela pourrait heurter. J’ai aussi accepté le fait que je ne serai jamais prêt à regarder en face certaines réalités. Il n’est pas lâche d’accepter et de vouloir vivre sa propre vie sans trop regarder au loin. Voila nicoetad. C’est mon message. Ton expérience t’aura grandi et certainement assagie. Tu as plein de choses douces et belles sur cette terre qui te tendent la main et tu as aussi beaucoup de choses a offrir. Découvre les et dis-toi que notre propre force a ses limites. Sache ne pas les depasser. Thierry
Fermer une porte et traverser la rue sans se retourner. Partir ! Ce sont les premiers pas vers l’aventure……
Oui, toutes vos réponses m'aident beaucoup!
Kola a raison en ce qui concerne l'humilité, il faut dire que je me sentais pas mal au-dessus du lot (je pense même que j'avais un sentiment de supériorité), mais en même temps c'était grâce à cette force en moi qui me donnait l'impression que la vie s'offrait à moi, que le monde entier m'ouvrait les bras. En étant positive je me dis que j'ai mûri, j'ai juste découvert la vie "comme elle est", mais je pense aussi que j'aurais voulu garder cette force pendant un peu plus longtemps...
Pour vous donner un exemple, je ne pense pas continuer à venir sur ce forum à cause de l'agressivité qui y régne parfois, je me suis sentie complétement agressée par une réponse à l'un de mes messages et je ne suis plus capable de gérer cela.
Je me reconnais dans certaines choses que vous dites, mais vous le dites avec une plus grande maturité c'est sur...
Cependant je crois que vous avez peut-être plus souffert à votre retour, dans le décalage que les autres ont de la réalité? Pour moi c'était vraiment dans le pays ou j'étais, a tel point que je suis sortie une fois pour mon visa, et je me sentais "guérie" pendant les quelques heures que j'ai passé là (mais guérie de quoi ???).
C'est vrai que le retour n'a pas été facile non plus, il m'a fallut plusieurs mois avant d'en parler, des années avant de m'endormir sans avoir ruminé une heure dans mon lit, 7 ans avant d'oser en parler sur un forum et encore maintenant je refuse de dire de quel pays il s'agit...(j'aurais l'impression d'accuser ce pays).
J'ai pensé à voir un psy, à écrire un livre, à retourner là-bas régler mes "comptes". Je me suis dit au moins dix fois "ça y est, j'ai oublié, j'ai enfin tiré un trait" mais finalement, il semble que non...
Si on souffre au retour, c'est en général dû à l'accumulation des souffrances sur place. On mesure son impuissance personnelle face à certaines situations auxquelles on est confronté. Dans mon cas cela a été mon impuissance à soulager les souffrances de gens qui n'avaient pas choisi de souffrir. Et je n'ai rien pu y faire. Mon retour a enfoncé le clou. Je ne connais pas tous les détails de ton expérience et les origines de ce qui t'as perturbé mais sortir est parfois la seule solution pour reprendre des forces. Guérir de quoi? L'alchimie de nos analyses d'un moment et de ce que contient notre mémoire fait qu'il s'opère un changement en soit que l'on ne comprend pas toujours. Toutes ses images, situations que notre cerveau analyse sont parfois très contradictoires avec ce a quoi on était préparé. C'est l'apprentissage des réalités. Il est sage de ta part de ne pas dévoiler le nom de ce pays. Y retourner pour régler des comptes n'aurait aucun sens. Quels comptes?
Quand a tirer un trait, je dirai qu’une page s'est tournée mais le livre est toujours ouvert et il le restera toujours au fond de toi. Les pages suivantes seront enrichies des précédentes. Tire les conclusions de ton expérience et mesure ta capacité à te retrouver dans d'autres situations.
Bon allez! Regarde autour de toi. De belles choses, il y en a plein. Des moments de grand bonheur aussi et dis-toi que ton apprentissage n'est pas terminé. Jean Gabin disait quelque chose de pas mal sur le sujet (...je sais que l'on ne sait jamais).
Thierry
Fermer une porte et traverser la rue sans se retourner. Partir ! Ce sont les premiers pas vers l’aventure……
Peut-etre es tu entre dans la realite pour la premiere fois de ta vie. Il parait que de voir le monde pour ce qu'il est, sans voile, sans masquarade (la masquarade de la charite, nous sommes tous egoiste, cessons de le cacher) il parait que quand on decouvre tout ca, il y a un immense sentiment de vide, et de solitude, mais il parait que c'est un passage essentiel vers le reveil, ou l'illumination... Peut-etre es-tu en train de devenir une sage!! :)
Il faut rajouter de la vie aux années...et non des années à la vie.
Bonjour
L'aggressivité des autres ne devrait en aucun cas vous atteindre.
C'est " leur " problème, pas le vôtre ! ........Alors n'en faîte surtout pas le vôtre..... cela voudrait dire qu'ils/elles auraient sciemment gagné .
Ont-ils/elles gagné ? Ne leur accordez pas ce bénéfice.
Et puis ce n'est jamais qu'une page du Forum et il y a tellement d'échanges intéressants sur ce Forum que vous seriez perdante sur toute la ligne si vous nous quittiez.
Eleanor Roosevelt a dit quelquechose de très intéressant et puissant :
"" Je ne donne à personne le pouvoir de me rendre inférieure sans que je leur en donne la permission auparavant ""
Sentez vous fortifiez de l'intervention de tous les autres et de l'intérêt que vous avez suscité.
A bientôt de vous lire et relire ! Cordialement Avionna.
A bientôt de vous lire et relire ! Cordialement Avionna.
John Greenleaf Whittier : ** For all the sad words of tongue or pen, the saddest are these : It might have been **
J'ai eu un sentiment un peu similaire il y a une dizaine d'années en revenant de Mongolie, un peu comme si on m'avait salit mon rêve. J'y suis retourné et j'y ai trouvé bien plus que ce que j'y avais perdu.
Il semble clair que tu aies un compte à régler là-bas. Retournes-y et perce l'abcès! Mais je pense que contrairement à ce que tu dis, tu y as appris beaucoup de choses et tu en apprendra encore plus en y retournant dans l'objectif d'y trouver autre chose que ce tu y as laissé il y a des années.
Il semble clair que tu aies un compte à régler là-bas. Retournes-y et perce l'abcès! Mais je pense que contrairement à ce que tu dis, tu y as appris beaucoup de choses et tu en apprendra encore plus en y retournant dans l'objectif d'y trouver autre chose que ce tu y as laissé il y a des années.
...je n'ai plus jamais laisse personne dire...
Ca me rappelle :
J'avais vingt ans. Je ne laisserais personne dire que c'est le plus bel age de la vie. Paul Nizan
Ca me rappelle :
J'avais vingt ans. Je ne laisserais personne dire que c'est le plus bel age de la vie. Paul Nizan
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
Je comprends, car j'ai vécu aussi une expérience de voyage qui m'a marqué énormément, alors qu'elle peut paraitre anodine aux yeux de certaines personnes. Je me suis souvent demandée pourquoi nous cherchons tant à voyager...et ce désir d'être ce que nous voulons être...devenir ce que nous voulons être...c'est un peu aussi ce pourquoi je suis partie pendant 10 ans, ma dernière expérience m' a blessée, car je n'ai pas supporté de me sentir impuissante...face à l'administration...je ne sais pas ce que tu as vécu...je n'ai pas le sentiment d'être vide, mais plutôt de m'être raconté des histoires...de fuir quelque chose, peut être l'angoisse de la finitude l'angoisse de la vie qui passe...et puis j'ai repensé beaucoup à cette phrase de Pascal : "tout le malheur de l'homme vient de ne pas avoir su resté seul dans sa chambre"...de ne pas avoir su rester seul avec soi-même sans doute, de se fuir à allant voir ailleurs...peut être...d'idéaliser le monde, et de croire que l'herbe est toujours plus verte ailleurs ou différente donc magique...voici mes réflexions...en tout cas je bouge pour me sentir vivante et penser que le merveilleux se trouve dans tout ce qui s'accomplit...mais le merveilleux est peut être là près de moi sans que je m'en rende compte...
mais il parait que le vide n'est pas négatif, ce qui est négatif c'est ce qu'on met dans ce vide...le vide c'est l'appel de tous les possibles...moi qui suis artiste je sais que pour peindre vraiment il faut d'abord se vider de toutes les images clichées que l'on a dans sa tête...peut être que ton expérience actuelle a un sens à comprendre.
amitiés Nelly
mais il parait que le vide n'est pas négatif, ce qui est négatif c'est ce qu'on met dans ce vide...le vide c'est l'appel de tous les possibles...moi qui suis artiste je sais que pour peindre vraiment il faut d'abord se vider de toutes les images clichées que l'on a dans sa tête...peut être que ton expérience actuelle a un sens à comprendre.
amitiés Nelly
Bonjour
j'ai lu avec intéret le récit de ton expérience, et les réponses qui ont suivies.
je n'ai aucun conseil à te donner car je viens moi aussi de me prendre une "vraie claque", et suis trop aigrie et dépitée pour dire quoi que ce soit de positif!
mais ce qui me donne envie d'échanger avec toi, c'est justement d'avoir vécu une expérience semble-t-il similaire malgré nos différences d'age (j'ai presque 20 ans de plus que toi), de caractère (suis bien trop égoïste pour l'humanitaire), d'objectif (même raison!), etc...
en fait de "claque", c'est plutôt des claques à répétition, puisque cela fait 3 ans que je passe la moitié de mon temps "là-bas", sans aucune autre raison sans doute qu'un réel masochisme!
j'ai donc rencontré beaucoup de gens, eu le temps de lier de "fausses" amitiés, amourettes foireuses et amours blessées!
et je les met tous dans le même panier -hommes, femmes, enfants, vieillards, et autres, car il n'y a guère eu d'originalité dans leur façon hypocrite et intéressée de se conduire avec moi!
lorsque je leur fait part de mes impressions, avec cette franchise quelque peu brutale qui est la mienne, mais que j'essaie toujours d'adoucir avec l'humour, on me répond invariablement que de partout, il ya des bons et des méchants, que je n'ai pas fait les bonnes rencontres, c'est tout!
statistiquement, vu le nombres de personnes dans mon panier, ça ne tient pas la route!
et j'ai la haine! (je suis très djeune dans ma pauvre tête...)
si tu veux discuter de tout ça avec moi -à moins que tu en ai marre d'en parler!- ce sera avec plaisir!
HAUT LES COEURS!
HAUT LES COEURS!
amicalement
bonjour
ton message en réponse à Nicoetad m'a passionné : dis donc, tu as pas mal de sagesse! alors je vais te demander quelques leçons (je rigole!) : comment fais-tu pour renoncer à comprendre ce qui est incompréhensible? J'adhère tout à fait ces paroles car il est vrai qu'arrivé à un certain point de différence (de culture, de caractère, de vécu, ou autre), on se heurte à ses propres limites de compréhension, et même de compassion. Rien à faire, le décalage est trop grand. Et s'obstiner à comprendre n'aboutit qu'à plus d'incompréhension encore, et comme tu le dis, cela fait trop mal. Il faudrait donc avoir l'humilité de renoncer... mais c'est là où est le hic, je n'y arrive pas! Je peux mettre mon orgueil de côté, et accepter mes limites. Ce que je ne peux pas, c'est canaliser ma curiosité intellectuelle, la faire lacher prise! C'est une immense frustration que de ne pas comprendre, que ce soit avec sa tête, son coeur ou ses tripes... Et je suis curieuse de connaitre ton avis aussi...
ton message en réponse à Nicoetad m'a passionné : dis donc, tu as pas mal de sagesse! alors je vais te demander quelques leçons (je rigole!) : comment fais-tu pour renoncer à comprendre ce qui est incompréhensible? J'adhère tout à fait ces paroles car il est vrai qu'arrivé à un certain point de différence (de culture, de caractère, de vécu, ou autre), on se heurte à ses propres limites de compréhension, et même de compassion. Rien à faire, le décalage est trop grand. Et s'obstiner à comprendre n'aboutit qu'à plus d'incompréhension encore, et comme tu le dis, cela fait trop mal. Il faudrait donc avoir l'humilité de renoncer... mais c'est là où est le hic, je n'y arrive pas! Je peux mettre mon orgueil de côté, et accepter mes limites. Ce que je ne peux pas, c'est canaliser ma curiosité intellectuelle, la faire lacher prise! C'est une immense frustration que de ne pas comprendre, que ce soit avec sa tête, son coeur ou ses tripes... Et je suis curieuse de connaitre ton avis aussi...
amicalement
Bonjour Gnawaisa,
c'est clair que mon principal problème a été "les gens", comme toi j'ai finis par les mettre tous dans le même panier à force de me "faire avoir". D'autant plus qu'il s'agit d'un pays où l'hospitalité est légendaire. Je me revois toujours sur une plage avec un groupe de jeunes et une fille qui a dit "tout le monde sait que nous sommes le peuple le plus gentil du monde" et là je me suis mise à pleurer pleurer pleurer... et comment leur expliquer pourquoi je pleurais?? comme toi on m'a dit que je n'avais pas du faire les bonnes rencontres.
Sur le forum j'ai vu plusieurs messages de personnes qui avaient aussi eu une mauvaise expérience en tant que touristes dans le même pays que moi, mais surtout j'ai vu plein de messages qui leur répondaient et qui leur disaient qu'ils aimaient ce pays, qu'ils y avaient rencontré des gens incroyables et j'ai finis par me dire "et si c'était vrai...?", si je n'avais pas fais les bonnes rencontres??
Comme me l'a conseillé MigradorII, je vais essayer de retourner là-bas. Je ne sais pas encore comment, mais je vais y aller. Le problème c'est que je ne peux pas y aller sac au dos, comme "avant" car je manque trop de confiance en moi pour refaire ça. Je crains un peu de retourner chez l'habitant mais les hôtels c'est pas trop mon truc. Bref, je vais bien trouver!
bonsoir
merci de ta réponse : décidément, on a vécu la même chose, le même ressenti, et je crois dans le même pays... Hi Hi! celui où les gens se disent les plus gentils du monde... Ta petite histoire sur la plage, je peux la sentir comme si j'y étais... il m'est arrivé pareil, j'ai réagi pareil! Pour ce qui est d'y retourner afin de crever l'abcès, j'ai des doutes, car j'y suis retournée moi-même tant de fois pour essayer de voir les choses autrement, de façon plus positive, ou tout au moins pour tenter de comprendre. Cela n'a fait qu'empirer les choses, jusqu'à mon dernier séjour tout récent (décembre 2008) et je suis rentrée presto au bercail pleine de colère et de dégout. A temps heureusement pour fêter le jour de l'an ici, avec mes vrais amis! Pardon d'être si "violente", mais la franchise prime à mes yeux sur les bons sentiments préfabriqués... Il est vrai qu'une majorité de gens en reviennent enchantés -pour ce qui est des paysages, architecture et artisanat, je suis d'accord avec eux-, d'autres y retournent depuis des années toujours avec le même enthousiasme, et il y a ceux qui s'y installent... chose que je voulais faire lors de ma première visite "coup de foudre"! Car c'est bien comme ça que ça a commencé, faut dire que je m'emballe vite! Donc, on se remet sérieusement en question, et je me suis bien sûr demandé si ça ne venait pas de moi... Bref, j'essaie de faire la part des choses. Pas facile! Ce qui m'étonne, c'est que tu éprouves encore aujourd'hui le besoin de parler de ton expérience- datant de 2001, si j'ai bien compris-, ce qui veut dire qu'elle n'est toujours pas digérée! ça fait peur! et ça fait de la peine. je sais que lorsqu'on s'est sentie "manipulée", il faut souvent des années pour s'en remettre. Est-ce cela que tu as ressenti? Si toutefois tu prends la décision d'y retourner, je suis prête à t'accompagner afin que nous combattions nos "démons" ensemble! Contrairement à toi, tout ça ne m'a pas rendu timide, tout au contraire; je fonce! Même pas peur! Je n'irais pas loger "chez l'habitant", c'est sûr, mais l'hôtel est de tout façon la solution la moins chère (si on n'est pas trop difficile) et permet de garder son indépendance... et son calme! Voilà, cela peut etre une idée, mais je ne sais pas si elle est bonne!!! En attendant, on peut toujours commencer le combat... en se parlant! Je te laisse mon mail : gnawaisa@caramail.com ou : isabelle.1961@jubii.fr
merci de ta réponse : décidément, on a vécu la même chose, le même ressenti, et je crois dans le même pays... Hi Hi! celui où les gens se disent les plus gentils du monde... Ta petite histoire sur la plage, je peux la sentir comme si j'y étais... il m'est arrivé pareil, j'ai réagi pareil! Pour ce qui est d'y retourner afin de crever l'abcès, j'ai des doutes, car j'y suis retournée moi-même tant de fois pour essayer de voir les choses autrement, de façon plus positive, ou tout au moins pour tenter de comprendre. Cela n'a fait qu'empirer les choses, jusqu'à mon dernier séjour tout récent (décembre 2008) et je suis rentrée presto au bercail pleine de colère et de dégout. A temps heureusement pour fêter le jour de l'an ici, avec mes vrais amis! Pardon d'être si "violente", mais la franchise prime à mes yeux sur les bons sentiments préfabriqués... Il est vrai qu'une majorité de gens en reviennent enchantés -pour ce qui est des paysages, architecture et artisanat, je suis d'accord avec eux-, d'autres y retournent depuis des années toujours avec le même enthousiasme, et il y a ceux qui s'y installent... chose que je voulais faire lors de ma première visite "coup de foudre"! Car c'est bien comme ça que ça a commencé, faut dire que je m'emballe vite! Donc, on se remet sérieusement en question, et je me suis bien sûr demandé si ça ne venait pas de moi... Bref, j'essaie de faire la part des choses. Pas facile! Ce qui m'étonne, c'est que tu éprouves encore aujourd'hui le besoin de parler de ton expérience- datant de 2001, si j'ai bien compris-, ce qui veut dire qu'elle n'est toujours pas digérée! ça fait peur! et ça fait de la peine. je sais que lorsqu'on s'est sentie "manipulée", il faut souvent des années pour s'en remettre. Est-ce cela que tu as ressenti? Si toutefois tu prends la décision d'y retourner, je suis prête à t'accompagner afin que nous combattions nos "démons" ensemble! Contrairement à toi, tout ça ne m'a pas rendu timide, tout au contraire; je fonce! Même pas peur! Je n'irais pas loger "chez l'habitant", c'est sûr, mais l'hôtel est de tout façon la solution la moins chère (si on n'est pas trop difficile) et permet de garder son indépendance... et son calme! Voilà, cela peut etre une idée, mais je ne sais pas si elle est bonne!!! En attendant, on peut toujours commencer le combat... en se parlant! Je te laisse mon mail : gnawaisa@caramail.com ou : isabelle.1961@jubii.fr
amicalement
Bonjour Gnawaisa,
En fait si j'en parle aprés tant de temps c'est que je n'ai pas pu en parler pendant des années, déjà à cause des "on t'avais prévenue, trop jeune, une fille toute seule..." (clichés dont je ne peux pas dire qu'ils soient vrai vu que je venais de passer 7 mois extraordinaires dans un autre pays, mais qui n'étaient pas tout à faux non plus, la preuve...). De plus j'ai longtemps cherché une raison: qu'est ce que j'ai fait, qu'est ce que j'ai pas fait, puis enfin j'ai cherché un pourquoi: pourquoi cette expérience m'a détruite alors qu'il ne s'est finalement RIEN passé?? Il y a des gens qui ont de vrai problèmes, et d'autres qui vivent des drames dont on ne comprend pas comment ils peuvent se remettre, mais moi je n'ai rien a raconté, rien que les gens puissent vraiment comprendre, à part ceux qui comme toi ont vécu la même chose, et heureusement, ça ne court pas les rues...
Tu as de la chance de continuer à foncer sans avoir peur, car aujourd'hui mon problème il est là: je ne cherche plus à comprendre, je cherche à redevenir celle que j'étais. Maintenant bien sûr j'arrive à rentrer dans un café, je peux téléphoner à quelqu'un que je ne connais pas sans trop de problème, par contre engager la conversation avec un inconnu, demander mon chemin, aller à une soirée ou je ne connais pas trop de monde, et surtout prendre sur moi, aller de l'avant pour faire toutes ces petites choses, je ne peux pas. J'essaye de me dire que c'est un peu facile de tout mettre sur le dos de cette expérience, mais y'a rien à faire je suis coincée...
oui pour moi aussi, j'avais rêvée depuis enfant de ce voyage, là où les "gens sont si accueillants, si pleins de sourires", j'ai du rêver, cela a du se passer dans une autre façon de voyager, je me suis trompée j'ai loupée quelque chose, mais quoi?
J'aimerais y revenir, pour comprendre, pour comprendre ce qui s'est passée. Je n'ai pas peur d'y retourner, c'est une autre forme de peur qui m'envahit, revivre les mêmes choses. En tous les cas, cela s'est passé l'an dernier, et ce voyage m'a défaite.
Je croyais en l'être humain, j'y ai vu la plus vile et les plus basses façons de vivre dont un être humain est capable.Je commence tout juste de nouveau de croire que l'homme est bon.....mais c'est sur il faut que j'y retourne, pour comprendre
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Hi everyone,
Who’d like to share their best and worst travel memories in a few lines? For me, it’s watching the TAJ MAHAL at sunrise and getting chased by dogs at the top of a mountain pass in GREECE on the way back from ISTANBUL. THANKS GUYS
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Good evening everyone,
This is my 15,000th post, and it's a message I would have preferred never to write.
Patrick—Yangguizi—won’t be returning from his trek in Uganda. His health betrayed him in the mountains.
Like many of you, I laughed until I couldn’t anymore at his travel stories. I met him in Shanghai, then in Istanbul... We scoured restaurants—he was an incredible expert on world cuisines. We relived Korea, China. Always brilliant, so sharp, so funny, so down-to-earth. Being even a little bit his friend was something to be proud of. I think I envied him.
Patrick is still out there, of course... He found his happiness running across the world. He’s on his path. He never doubted that "the traveler doesn’t even know if he’ll return one day."
Not sure this would’ve suited him, but his departure devastates me.
Alright, Farewell, you foreign devil. Safe travels.
Michel
This is my 15,000th post, and it's a message I would have preferred never to write.
Patrick—Yangguizi—won’t be returning from his trek in Uganda. His health betrayed him in the mountains.
Like many of you, I laughed until I couldn’t anymore at his travel stories. I met him in Shanghai, then in Istanbul... We scoured restaurants—he was an incredible expert on world cuisines. We relived Korea, China. Always brilliant, so sharp, so funny, so down-to-earth. Being even a little bit his friend was something to be proud of. I think I envied him.
Patrick is still out there, of course... He found his happiness running across the world. He’s on his path. He never doubted that "the traveler doesn’t even know if he’ll return one day."
Not sure this would’ve suited him, but his departure devastates me.
Alright, Farewell, you foreign devil. Safe travels.
Michel
hello to all travelers with their eyes wide open to the desert...
I’ve always wondered what I was "doing" on this earth. And why my father, who died a few months after I was born—a former youngest French resistance fighter—joined the First Saharan Motorized Company in Atar and spent the rest of his life repairing army engines in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali (which didn’t exist under that name back then), Morocco, and finally Algeria, where my mother was born and raised. (Believe me, it’s not "cool" being the child of a soldier in a country occupied by France, and even less so the child of a "pied-noir.") Of course, I never got an answer: the dead don’t talk, and the army doesn’t either. But here’s the thing—I had photos... So naturally, one day I hit the road. I wanted to see, to understand. It’s thanks to VF that I was able to do a little research on crossing the Morocco-Mauritania border, and I’m grateful to its members, just as I’m grateful to all those who welcomed me on the road for 14 years. For the past few weeks, I’ve been wondering if I should talk about this or not... It turns out the Mauritanians changed my life by asking for my help... And that started as early as February 2012... (Did I owe them something? No answer to that question.) Ah, the irony—they saw me coming. But when you’re handed sick children and begged to do something, what would you have done? I’d worked in a hospital, so I knew a bit about the rules to follow. I didn’t hesitate. And well, over all these years, I met doctors, surgeons, and together we organized care, evacuations of children, training for surgeons—even trying to stop children from having to travel outside their country. It was never easy. I’d like to thank those who supported us, as well as *La Chaîne de l’Espoir*, *La Fondation Face au Monde*, and everyone who built bridges between our two countries. Unfortunately, despite the constant efforts of Mauritanian doctors and surgeons, some children couldn’t be helped in time. Today, I want to talk about four siblings—orphans of their mother—suffering from congenital glaucoma causing irreversible blindness. Their case was entrusted to me in 2020, just weeks before the big lockdown. We couldn’t do anything for them then, but when their father asked me for a gift, I rushed to my computer and wrote a story. Through a tale, the children take a great journey, explore their country, and fulfill a dream. I never thought this book would be published—it was, in 2023. This book pays tribute to Mauritania. It’s a message for those who know nothing about the hardships of life there, carrying both the harshness and beauty of an immense desert where you can travel by 4x4, bike, on foot, or by camel in complete safety. It bears witness to the kindness of Mauritanians toward travelers. As a woman traveling alone in my vehicle—a now-rusted old Mercedes that no longer runs—I had the most beautiful encounters of my life there (I’ve seen other parts of the world...). The blind children of Choum, Atar, Nouadhibou, and Nouakchott will forever be in my heart. Volunteer readers transcribed the book into a free audio version for the visually impaired. It’s available in sound libraries in France, the *Fondation Valentin Haüy*, and the Swiss Romande library. I made my last trip to Mauritania in my old 4x4 to distribute the book everywhere, especially to its heroes and the school for the visually impaired in Nouakchott. After that, I thought it was time to close the chapter because I no longer have the means or the strength to travel. My publishers chose this title for it: *The Blue Eyes of the Desert*. This publication helped a mission of Swiss volunteer ophthalmologists come to operate on glaucomas in Mauritania. I’m thrilled because they come back every year! This adventure is ending, yes—everything must come to an end—but ultimately, it was born here, on the VF site!! So yes, I had to say it: THANK YOU!!!!!
I’ve always wondered what I was "doing" on this earth. And why my father, who died a few months after I was born—a former youngest French resistance fighter—joined the First Saharan Motorized Company in Atar and spent the rest of his life repairing army engines in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali (which didn’t exist under that name back then), Morocco, and finally Algeria, where my mother was born and raised. (Believe me, it’s not "cool" being the child of a soldier in a country occupied by France, and even less so the child of a "pied-noir.") Of course, I never got an answer: the dead don’t talk, and the army doesn’t either. But here’s the thing—I had photos... So naturally, one day I hit the road. I wanted to see, to understand. It’s thanks to VF that I was able to do a little research on crossing the Morocco-Mauritania border, and I’m grateful to its members, just as I’m grateful to all those who welcomed me on the road for 14 years. For the past few weeks, I’ve been wondering if I should talk about this or not... It turns out the Mauritanians changed my life by asking for my help... And that started as early as February 2012... (Did I owe them something? No answer to that question.) Ah, the irony—they saw me coming. But when you’re handed sick children and begged to do something, what would you have done? I’d worked in a hospital, so I knew a bit about the rules to follow. I didn’t hesitate. And well, over all these years, I met doctors, surgeons, and together we organized care, evacuations of children, training for surgeons—even trying to stop children from having to travel outside their country. It was never easy. I’d like to thank those who supported us, as well as *La Chaîne de l’Espoir*, *La Fondation Face au Monde*, and everyone who built bridges between our two countries. Unfortunately, despite the constant efforts of Mauritanian doctors and surgeons, some children couldn’t be helped in time. Today, I want to talk about four siblings—orphans of their mother—suffering from congenital glaucoma causing irreversible blindness. Their case was entrusted to me in 2020, just weeks before the big lockdown. We couldn’t do anything for them then, but when their father asked me for a gift, I rushed to my computer and wrote a story. Through a tale, the children take a great journey, explore their country, and fulfill a dream. I never thought this book would be published—it was, in 2023. This book pays tribute to Mauritania. It’s a message for those who know nothing about the hardships of life there, carrying both the harshness and beauty of an immense desert where you can travel by 4x4, bike, on foot, or by camel in complete safety. It bears witness to the kindness of Mauritanians toward travelers. As a woman traveling alone in my vehicle—a now-rusted old Mercedes that no longer runs—I had the most beautiful encounters of my life there (I’ve seen other parts of the world...). The blind children of Choum, Atar, Nouadhibou, and Nouakchott will forever be in my heart. Volunteer readers transcribed the book into a free audio version for the visually impaired. It’s available in sound libraries in France, the *Fondation Valentin Haüy*, and the Swiss Romande library. I made my last trip to Mauritania in my old 4x4 to distribute the book everywhere, especially to its heroes and the school for the visually impaired in Nouakchott. After that, I thought it was time to close the chapter because I no longer have the means or the strength to travel. My publishers chose this title for it: *The Blue Eyes of the Desert*. This publication helped a mission of Swiss volunteer ophthalmologists come to operate on glaucomas in Mauritania. I’m thrilled because they come back every year! This adventure is ending, yes—everything must come to an end—but ultimately, it was born here, on the VF site!! So yes, I had to say it: THANK YOU!!!!!
Hi everyone,
I’m Loulou, a French expat who’s been living in Southeast Asia for about fifteen years, currently in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. A passionate walker at heart, I’ve trekked in Nepal (Thorung La, Mardi Himal), India, Vietnam, and I’m still planning new hikes (Char Dham, Langtang, Annapurna).
I’ve just published my first travel journal, recounting three months of walking and encounters across India. A portion of the sales goes to an educational center I support in Kep, for children whose parents work in the salt marshes.
I’m also working on a second book about Nepal with a musician friend, focusing on the Mardi Himal trek—two independent perspectives on the same journey.
Happy to swap stories with you about the Himalayas, India, Southeast Asia, or just the urge to hit the road and walk far from home.
Safe travels,
Loulou
Hi! It was totally by chance that I stumbled upon VoyageForum (an ad online and a story lol), and I’ve been reading some really old posts from 2011 about Thai massage schools—discussions on how to get by, accommodation, prices, etc. It reminded me of my own experience: I kept things simple by staying with a local family during my entire trip. I only shared all the expenses with them, which, I’ll admit, was super cheap… and I often traveled with them, which naturally opened a lot of doors for me. To start, at the school in Salaya, my Thai friend immediately connected me with Teacher Phong (the school’s mentor and teacher of teachers, a former monk). I was supposed to join a group session with other foreigners, but for some reason I don’t know, I got two days of private lessons for free with this expert… incredible! And on top of that, he loved France! It was an amazing experience. I "discovered" massage by chance—the Thai family just told me: "Try it, you’ll see!" (I’d had a pretty intense massage in the capital before 😅… but the next day, I felt unbelievably great!))
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
"It seems to me that poverty would be less painful in the sun" wrote Aznavour...
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Hi everyone, just this once I’m not posting for a travel story, but to share a thought for Venezuela.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
hi there
I’d like to invite you to discover my coastal province in central Vietnam: Quang Ngai.
This year, my province has really improved its infrastructure—mountains, countryside, and sea are all authentic here.
No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
A local lunch costs around 1 €.
A *** hotel room is about 25 €, and you can find hotels right on My Khe Beach.
We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
I live here—I’m not selling anything, but I can help if needed (my father-in-law is a traditional Vietnamese doctor and he’s very skilled).
We're planning to spend a month in Vietnam. Is hiring a guide helpful?
Hi everyone! 😉
I’m Typhaine, 35 years old. Five years ago, I left France for a solo round-the-world trip—no planes, just a van, hitchhiking, cycling, and even a canoe in the Amazon! Today, I work as a naturalist guide in Argentine Patagonia.
Wherever I go, my compass stays the same: observing and photographing wildlife, which I deeply admire and respect.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
Hello everyone,
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Hello everyone,
I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
.
.Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

...
I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
Hello 🙂
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hi there,
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,

Hello to all East Africa lovers and nature enthusiasts in general,
While I prepare to share a recap of our latest trip/safari in Kenya soon, I’d like to wish you all a peaceful transition between 2025 and 2026.
Warm regards,
Puma2A.





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We’re a couple aged 58 and 63. We’ve just returned from a wonderful trip to South India in Tamil Nadu and a few days in Kerala. We traveled with a local French-speaking guide and his friend, the driver. They both live in Pondicherry. We spent 3 weeks with them in the most authentic way!
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
