Choix d'une bonne selle pour vélo
by Brebismurati
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bjr a tous, comme tous les ans avec des amis nous partons 4 a 5 jours en belgique a vélo, le pbm c'est qu'a partir du 2 eme jours ont a tous super mal au cul...🙁 malgres des housses en gel au dessus de la selle ! sachant que ce sont des vtt avec les selle d'origine.
J'ai eu ton problème il y a bien longtemps, et me suis tourné vers une Selle Italia Trans-Am, gel et fente pour préserver le flux sanguin vers nos bijoux de famille. Mais il est vrais que ca demande de l'entrainement sérieux et des maux costauds au début...
Solutions selon moi:UNE BONNE PEAU DE CHAMOIX (PROPRE) EN SYNTHETIQUE!!! (pas moins cher que 50Euro je constate par expériance, la tenue en place sans plis est primordiale)Une selle adaptée à votre corps, largeur surtout (cf. San Marco Size)Une selle montée droite et pas trop loin ou près.Un bon choix de potence pour rétablir l'équilibre de répartition des poids mains-selle.Se (faire) masser aux endroits sensibles et tendus, c'est chose normale et indispensable quand on fait du sport. En plus c'est agréable!Un vélo plus typé trekking-tourisme, avec une position plus assise et une selle royalement rembourrée.Un style de conduite adapté à la longueur du trajet, pas toujours facile en ce qui me concerne!Un vélo couché 😉
J'espère que ca peut vous etre utile...
Bonne route!
Solutions selon moi:UNE BONNE PEAU DE CHAMOIX (PROPRE) EN SYNTHETIQUE!!! (pas moins cher que 50Euro je constate par expériance, la tenue en place sans plis est primordiale)Une selle adaptée à votre corps, largeur surtout (cf. San Marco Size)Une selle montée droite et pas trop loin ou près.Un bon choix de potence pour rétablir l'équilibre de répartition des poids mains-selle.Se (faire) masser aux endroits sensibles et tendus, c'est chose normale et indispensable quand on fait du sport. En plus c'est agréable!Un vélo plus typé trekking-tourisme, avec une position plus assise et une selle royalement rembourrée.Un style de conduite adapté à la longueur du trajet, pas toujours facile en ce qui me concerne!Un vélo couché 😉
J'espère que ca peut vous etre utile...
Bonne route!
Yop!
J'ai testé pas mal de selles différentes (des plus chers ou plus cheap), et jusqu'ici, celles qui me conviennent le mieux sont les selles en royalgel de chez Selleroyal (www.selleroyal.com).
Le look est pas terrible, mais je m'en contrefiche. Associée à un bon cuissard (pour l'instant, les meilleurs que j'ai testés sont les Pinarello), c'est la garantie de ne pas avoir mal aux fesses même sur de grandes distances en tout terrain.
J'ai testé pas mal de selles différentes (des plus chers ou plus cheap), et jusqu'ici, celles qui me conviennent le mieux sont les selles en royalgel de chez Selleroyal (www.selleroyal.com).
Le look est pas terrible, mais je m'en contrefiche. Associée à un bon cuissard (pour l'instant, les meilleurs que j'ai testés sont les Pinarello), c'est la garantie de ne pas avoir mal aux fesses même sur de grandes distances en tout terrain.
Méfiez vous des contrefaçons: apprenez à faire la différence entre un faux plat et un vrai.
Le mal au fesse le 2ème jour est classique lorsque l'on a peu d'entrainement. On peut mettre tout le gel que l'on voudra je ne pense pas que ce soit la bonne solution. Une selle molle (sans jeu de mot!) cré plus de frottement qu'une selle rigide. Ma femme qui avait toujour mal au fesse a adopté la selle Brooks pré-rodée à la main et a maintenant rarement des problèmes. Effectivement il faut également un bon cuissard.
Rassurez vous en général on a mal le 2ème et 3ème jour!
Pour soigner les chairs un petit truc qui nous a été donné en Allemagne alors que l'on cherchait une pharmacie pour soigner les fesses de nos enfants.On nous a dirigé vers une drogerie pour acheter de la graisse au calendula utilisée pour les pis de vache...
Pour soigner les chairs un petit truc qui nous a été donné en Allemagne alors que l'on cherchait une pharmacie pour soigner les fesses de nos enfants.On nous a dirigé vers une drogerie pour acheter de la graisse au calendula utilisée pour les pis de vache...
Bonjour;
Pratiquant depuis plus de trente ans le cyclotourisme, j'utilise une selle en cuir :Brooks ou idéal. Cete solution est adoptée par tous les grands rouleurs.
Amicalement
henri - voyageur 74
Y a bien une solution, il ne faut plus qu'il y ait de deuxième jour 😉 Bref, pratiquer plus régulièrement et ces petits maux passeront tous seuls !
suis parti faire 800km en septembre 2006 entre Belgique et Aoste(italie), j'ai attrappé mal au cul le 4me jour avec une selle Royal Gel. (cul rouge comme bebé en pipi😛).....je part normalement ce mercredi pour le danemark...cette fois avec une Brooks cuir rodée par mes soins....graisse inside outside depuis trois mois......je vous en dirais plus à mon retour .....😉
Salut,
Moi aussi j'ai acheté une Brooks il y a un an et ça a été le jour et la nuit en ce qui concerne ce problème auquel j'ai toujours été confronté cependant, je viens de terminer un parcours de 1450 km et j'ai eu mal aux fesse après l'utilisation de 2 cuissards bas de gamme. Du coup j'ai terminé mon parcours avec un seul cuissard, un troisième qui était de bonne qualité. L'inconvénient c'est que le matin il était toujours mouillé puisqu'il fallait bien que je le lave à chaque fois !.
Moi aussi j'ai acheté une Brooks il y a un an et ça a été le jour et la nuit en ce qui concerne ce problème auquel j'ai toujours été confronté cependant, je viens de terminer un parcours de 1450 km et j'ai eu mal aux fesse après l'utilisation de 2 cuissards bas de gamme. Du coup j'ai terminé mon parcours avec un seul cuissard, un troisième qui était de bonne qualité. L'inconvénient c'est que le matin il était toujours mouillé puisqu'il fallait bien que je le lave à chaque fois !.
« T'en va le Chburz à vélo qu'à la fin il se casse.»
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Salut à tous,
Comme tout le monde après avoir galéré un max et dépensé une fortune en selles de toutes formes, couleurs et matières, je suis tombé par hasard, lors d'une visite au Roc d'Azur l'année dernière sur la selle Proust.
http://perso.orange.fr/selle.proust/Mod%E8le%20cyclo%202, 2.htm
Je sais la forme est très particulière, mais au bout de quelques jours, lorsque l'on s'est habitué à ne poser que les os et non plus le gras des fesses, le confort est maximum. Elle est mobile, l'amplitude du mouvement est accentué...géniale (à mon avis). Je me languis le Roc d'Azur pour aller féliciter Mr proust (il existe, et c'est son nom).
Aucun problème sur les longs trajets, je viens de faire le 200 km, le 300 km et le 400 km pour les randonneurs mondiaux.
Bob le routard
Comme tout le monde après avoir galéré un max et dépensé une fortune en selles de toutes formes, couleurs et matières, je suis tombé par hasard, lors d'une visite au Roc d'Azur l'année dernière sur la selle Proust.
http://perso.orange.fr/selle.proust/Mod%E8le%20cyclo%202, 2.htm
Je sais la forme est très particulière, mais au bout de quelques jours, lorsque l'on s'est habitué à ne poser que les os et non plus le gras des fesses, le confort est maximum. Elle est mobile, l'amplitude du mouvement est accentué...géniale (à mon avis). Je me languis le Roc d'Azur pour aller féliciter Mr proust (il existe, et c'est son nom).
Aucun problème sur les longs trajets, je viens de faire le 200 km, le 300 km et le 400 km pour les randonneurs mondiaux.
Bob le routard
Bob the Fada
j'ai achete un velo bas de gamme pour son cadre acier qui semble indestructible, fourche rigide, triple plateau, forme B twin (mais ca n'en n'est pas), les accessoires je les remplacerais au fur et a mesure de leur casse, par compte la selle (en plastique?) je prefere je pas la tester
Pour faire une randonnee d'un mois a raison de 40-50 km par jour, (allure pepere) pensez vos que l'achat d'une vieille selle en cuir avec ressort, que j'aurais préalablement traitee a l'huile de pied de boeuf soit un bon plan ? est ce mieux qu'une selle en cuir sur rail. Y aura til un probleme de diametre de tige a surveiller?
Merci
Pour faire une randonnee d'un mois a raison de 40-50 km par jour, (allure pepere) pensez vos que l'achat d'une vieille selle en cuir avec ressort, que j'aurais préalablement traitee a l'huile de pied de boeuf soit un bon plan ? est ce mieux qu'une selle en cuir sur rail. Y aura til un probleme de diametre de tige a surveiller?
Merci
genoel
Pour le cuir, ca va je suis convaincu, que cette matiere se fait a nos posterieurs, mais en visant de l'occase il n'y a pas que Brooks, il existe d'autres selles en cuir, c'est de celles la que je voulais parler, car leur manque de notoriete fait quelles sont beaucoup moins cher.
et egalement au sujet des ressorts, est ce un avantage supplementaire? d'ailleurs Brooks en fait encore actuellement
merci
et egalement au sujet des ressorts, est ce un avantage supplementaire? d'ailleurs Brooks en fait encore actuellement
merci
genoel
Oui effectivement il n'y a pas que brooks mais je ne connais pas les autres.
En ce qui concerne les ressorts, moi j'ai une brooks avec ressort et je ne pense pas que ce soit necessaire. Je l'avais achetée ainsi car comme je n'arrivais pas à trouver un moyen de ne pas être constamment violé par mon vélo, j'ai pris toutes mes précautions. Depuis, je pense qu'une simple selle en cuir doit suffire: pas besoin de ressorts.
« T'en va le Chburz à vélo qu'à la fin il se casse.»
http://richard.burzycki.free.fr
En ce qui me concerne j'ai toujours fonctionné avec des selles basiques, il ne me viendrait pas à l'idée de dépenser des milles et des cents pour elles.
Une fois que mes fesses ont bien formé la selle aucun problème.. Je ne met jamais de cuissards, je ne supporte pas l'idée d'avoir mon cul nu dans une peau de chamois tartinée de crème. A la place je met un slip en coton, par dessus un short léger type foot et pour finir un short ou bernuda bien épais et costaud type cargo. Jamais connu de douleurs.
Dernierement aprés avoir acheté mon nouveau vélo j'ai eu un peu mal aux adducteurs après ma premiere grosse sortie, cela était du au fait que la selle du vélo était beaucoup plus large que celles que j'utilise habituellement, depuis plus rien, j'en déduis que j'ai un postèrieur pas "begueule" et pas difficile qui se sent à l'aise avec tout ce qu'on lui propose.
En conclusion plus plus un cul pratique une selle mieux il se porte.
Oui la Brooks b17 est parfaite...même sans cuissard "tartiné à la crème" 😄😄 on la supporte bien.
Par contre, et pour ne pas toujours parler de cuir, on m'a parlé d'une selle Fizik modèle "Aliante" qui est très confortable et plus design.....avez vous des infos à ce propos ? 🙂
bonne balade à tous
Par contre, et pour ne pas toujours parler de cuir, on m'a parlé d'une selle Fizik modèle "Aliante" qui est très confortable et plus design.....avez vous des infos à ce propos ? 🙂
bonne balade à tous
Oui la Brooks b17 est parfaite...même sans cuissard "tartiné à la crème" 😄😄 on la supporte bien.
Par contre, et pour ne pas toujours parler de cuir,
Y'a pas que les brooks qui sont en cuir, celà étant ... Toutes les selles un peu haut de gamme le sont et parfois moins chères.
Par contre, et pour ne pas toujours parler de cuir,
Y'a pas que les brooks qui sont en cuir, celà étant ... Toutes les selles un peu haut de gamme le sont et parfois moins chères.
You own a car, not the road !
Oui, salut, gille berthoud, fabrique de trés jolie selle en cuir.
http://www.gillesberthoud.fr/accessoires/resultat.php.
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I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Heinz Stucke has passed away.
He never stopped traveling the world since 1962.
So sad.
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hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hello,
We’d like to go on a 3- to 4-month bike trip starting in December, crossing from Assam (northeast India) to New Delhi via Nepal.
Are there routes with light traffic along the Brahmaputra and through Nepal?
We’re also looking for any info on accommodations, wild camping, local interactions, etc.
Thanks,
Michel
Hi there,
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.