Deux passeports: problème pour aller aux États-Unis?
by AuroreGoutte
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour, j'ai un passeport à lecture optique delivré avant octobre 2005, donc valable pour entrer aux USA. Mon probleme est le suivant: j'ai fait faire un passeport electronique il y a deux ans pour me rendre aux USA, pensant que celui que j'avais (le lecture optique) n'etait pas valable. Je me suis donc rendue 2 fois aux USA avec ce passeport electronique (je m'etais precedemment rendue aux usa avec le passeport à lecture optique). Aujourd'hui, j'ai perdu mon passeport electronique et je me demandais si je pouvais retourner sur le territoire US avec mon ancien passeport à lecture optique que j'ai conservé.
Merci pour votre reponse.
Bonsoir,
Normalement une fois le second passeport délivré le premier n'est plus valide ; vous l'avez déclaré perdu ?
Michel
Normalement une fois le second passeport délivré le premier n'est plus valide ; vous l'avez déclaré perdu ?
Michel
Je ne me rappelle pas avoir fait une declaration de perte. J'ai l'impression qu'à la mairie, ils ne m'ont jamais demandé de rendre l'ancien.
Comme le dit TATRA si vous avez eu un nouveau passeport c'est que l'ancien a était déclaré volé ou perdu donc plus valable. Je ne risquerai pas d'aller aux USA ou ailleurs avec pièce d'identité non valide......
Pensez-vous vraiment que l'administration annule (à distance) les pieces d'identité que l'on fait refaire ?
De plus, je pourrais aussi avoir une homonyme ...
tu n'as pas le 'droit' d'avoir 2 passeports: quand tu as refait faire ton 2nd passeport, le 1er est devenu 'invalide' (soit il a ete note perdu, soit vole; soit a ta mairie ils le 'decoupent' ou le garde).
donc si tu as perdu ton 2nd passeport (celui avec lequel tu voyageais): retourne en faire un autre...
ps: ca n'a rien a voir avec un 'homonyme'😇...tes informations ne sont pas du tout les memes, si par hasard la personne avait le meme nom que toi!!
donc si tu as perdu ton 2nd passeport (celui avec lequel tu voyageais): retourne en faire un autre...
ps: ca n'a rien a voir avec un 'homonyme'😇...tes informations ne sont pas du tout les memes, si par hasard la personne avait le meme nom que toi!!
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Bonjour
Je ne vois pas comment tu peux avoir 2 passeports, c'est illégal il y en a forcement un qui n'est pas valable. Quand on refait un passeport on doit obligatoirement restitué l'ancien s'il est en notre possession evidemment.
Je ne vois pas comment tu peux avoir 2 passeports, c'est illégal il y en a forcement un qui n'est pas valable. Quand on refait un passeport on doit obligatoirement restitué l'ancien s'il est en notre possession evidemment.
... c'est peut-être illégal (ce qui reste à démontrer), mais c'est assez communément répandu !
... comment d'après vous font les professionnels qui se déplacent souvent d'un pays à l'autre aux quatre coins du globe, parfois dans l'urgence, pour se faire faire des visas aux ambassades ou autres représentations consulaires pendant alors qu'ils sont déjà à l'étranger et bien trop occupés pour pouvoir gérer cela eux-mêmes ?
... comment d'après vous font les professionnels qui se déplacent souvent d'un pays à l'autre aux quatre coins du globe, parfois dans l'urgence, pour se faire faire des visas aux ambassades ou autres représentations consulaires pendant alors qu'ils sont déjà à l'étranger et bien trop occupés pour pouvoir gérer cela eux-mêmes ?
Bonjour,
"Je ne vois pas comment tu peux avoir 2 passeports, c'est illégal il y en a forcement un qui n'est pas valable. Quand on refait un passeport on doit obligatoirement restitué l'ancien s'il est en notre possession evidemment."
Certaines personnes détiennent deux passeports, pour motif professionnel.
Michel
"Je ne vois pas comment tu peux avoir 2 passeports, c'est illégal il y en a forcement un qui n'est pas valable. Quand on refait un passeport on doit obligatoirement restitué l'ancien s'il est en notre possession evidemment."
Certaines personnes détiennent deux passeports, pour motif professionnel.
Michel
Oui, mais cela c'est pour des cas tres particuliers.
Bonjour,
je me permets d'ouvrir a nouveau la discussion. Je me trouve a peu pres dans la meme situation que AuroreGoutte. En fait j'ai finalement retrouvé mon passeport apres l'avoir declaré perdu et fait une demande de renouvellement. Je n'ai toujours pas recu mon nouveau passeport mais j'aimerais utiliser l'ancien pour voyager.
Je me doute bien que ce serait mieux d'attendre d'avoir le nouveau et que beaucoup diront que c'est illegal . Ma question est plus precise: quelqu'un connait-il le processus une fois qu'un passeport est declare perdu? existe-t-il une banque de donnees nationale consultable par la police des frontieres? En gros j'imagine bien que dans le petit pays d'afrique ou je vais personne ne sais que j'ai declare la perte de mon passeport mais est-ce qu'en quittant le territoire francais je ne risquerais pas d'avoir des problemes?
Une experience vecue serait la bienvenue! 😉
Merci pour votre reponse.
je me permets d'ouvrir a nouveau la discussion. Je me trouve a peu pres dans la meme situation que AuroreGoutte. En fait j'ai finalement retrouvé mon passeport apres l'avoir declaré perdu et fait une demande de renouvellement. Je n'ai toujours pas recu mon nouveau passeport mais j'aimerais utiliser l'ancien pour voyager.
Je me doute bien que ce serait mieux d'attendre d'avoir le nouveau et que beaucoup diront que c'est illegal . Ma question est plus precise: quelqu'un connait-il le processus une fois qu'un passeport est declare perdu? existe-t-il une banque de donnees nationale consultable par la police des frontieres? En gros j'imagine bien que dans le petit pays d'afrique ou je vais personne ne sais que j'ai declare la perte de mon passeport mais est-ce qu'en quittant le territoire francais je ne risquerais pas d'avoir des problemes?
Une experience vecue serait la bienvenue! 😉
Merci pour votre reponse.
salut, la reponse est non.....tu ne peux l'utiliser, bien sur qu'il y a un fichier et la paf saura vous le faire comprendre...... c'est qd meme qq chose de toujours vouloir passer par la "bande" pour ensuite pleurnicher auprès des autorités avec les mots habituels : - je ne savais pas, pardon, s'il vous plait et....etc.... un passeport déclaré perdu, c'est comme un passeport volé, en passant a la paf, vous serez arrété pour usage de faux et interrogé....C'est tout. attendez le suivant.. ensuite pour le petit pays d'afrique comme vous dites, peut etre ont ils aussi une liaison internet et donc acces a certaines informations..... bye.
Bonsoir Gérard,
un passeport déclaré perdu, c'est comme un passeport volé, en passant a la paf, vous serez arrété pour usage de faux et interrogé....C'est tout. attendez le suivant..
Oui, en tous cas s'ils remarquent.
ensuite pour le petit pays d'afrique comme vous dites, peut etre ont ils aussi une liaison internet et donc acces a certaines informations....
Ils n'y ont pas accès.
Michel
un passeport déclaré perdu, c'est comme un passeport volé, en passant a la paf, vous serez arrété pour usage de faux et interrogé....C'est tout. attendez le suivant..
Oui, en tous cas s'ils remarquent.
ensuite pour le petit pays d'afrique comme vous dites, peut etre ont ils aussi une liaison internet et donc acces a certaines informations....
Ils n'y ont pas accès.
Michel
salut michel, a Madagascar, ils y ont acces.....direct et sont tres pointilleux, mais tout s'arrange bien sur 😎
ils y ont acces.....direct
Accès à quoi ?
Michel
Accès à quoi ?
Michel
aux données transmises sur internet, concernant les passeports frauduleux, perdus, volés etc.. et autres tels que personnes recherchées ... il existe un fichier consultable uniquement par les autorités. c'est tout, pour mada, je suis tres au "'courant"...😛
aux données transmises sur internet, concernant les passeports frauduleux, perdus, volés etc.. et autres tels que personnes recherchées ... il existe un fichier consultable uniquement par les autorités. c'est tout, pour mada, je suis tres au "'courant"...😛
C'est légal ?
Michel
C'est légal ?
Michel
Bonsoir !
Non pas vraiment, certains professionnel comme moi on 2 passeports en titre...
Par contre, je suis d'accord avec toi sur une perte dument déclarée le re-émission d'un nouveau passeport annule le premier
Ne surtout pas utiliser un passeport déclaré perdu et retrouvé ca arrive ...
Dans son cas il me semble que ton premier passeport n'est plus valide
les USA ne rigolent pas avec ce sujet
Amitiés
Non pas vraiment, certains professionnel comme moi on 2 passeports en titre...
Par contre, je suis d'accord avec toi sur une perte dument déclarée le re-émission d'un nouveau passeport annule le premier
Ne surtout pas utiliser un passeport déclaré perdu et retrouvé ca arrive ...
Dans son cas il me semble que ton premier passeport n'est plus valide
les USA ne rigolent pas avec ce sujet
Amitiés
La chanson de Jean Gabin "Je sais" un peu triste! je vous l'accorde mais tellement vraie et d'actualité....
Bonjour,
Il n'existe que 2 possibilités pour obtenir un passeport :
"Création" (pour une personne n'en ayant jamais détenu) Renouvellement (pour cause de fin de validité, de perte ou de vol)
Pour cette 2ème possibilité, il faut obligatoirement produire l'ancien ou la déclaration de perte/vol et je ne crois pas qu'une autorité fasse l'impasse sur ce point. Vous nous dites ne plus vous souvenir comment vous avez obtenu votre second passeport. Bizarre, mais bon. En tout état de cause le premier à forcément été annulé après la délivrance du second (sauf incompétence de l'administration mais en cette période trouble je ne parierais pas là-dessus) Par conséquent, n'essayez pas de voyager avec le document qu'il vous reste car il vous vaudra les pires ennuis en cas de problèmes avec les autorités (et peut-être encore bien plus de l'autre côté de l'Atlantique).
Il n'existe que 2 possibilités pour obtenir un passeport :
"Création" (pour une personne n'en ayant jamais détenu) Renouvellement (pour cause de fin de validité, de perte ou de vol)
Pour cette 2ème possibilité, il faut obligatoirement produire l'ancien ou la déclaration de perte/vol et je ne crois pas qu'une autorité fasse l'impasse sur ce point. Vous nous dites ne plus vous souvenir comment vous avez obtenu votre second passeport. Bizarre, mais bon. En tout état de cause le premier à forcément été annulé après la délivrance du second (sauf incompétence de l'administration mais en cette période trouble je ne parierais pas là-dessus) Par conséquent, n'essayez pas de voyager avec le document qu'il vous reste car il vous vaudra les pires ennuis en cas de problèmes avec les autorités (et peut-être encore bien plus de l'autre côté de l'Atlantique).
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M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale