mais question matelas je trouve qu'ils n'ont pas beaucoup evolués et notre petit dos ? ils y pense a notre petit dos ? et pis, une bonne nuit, c'est reparateur pour rouler le lendemain a+ 😉
Dormir confortablement à vélo
by Nounours
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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qui a la solution miracle pour bien dormir sans avoir a transporter son matelas de lit ? 🙁
pour mes periples et pour economiser du poids j'avais opté pour un matelas autogonflant de 1, 50 m car les jambes je m'en fiche, pourvu que j'ai le dos confortable.
en plus en dessous je met un petit tapis mousse mais ce n'est vraiment pas le top
et puis les matelas ne tienne pas tres bien le coup a force de les deroulés et de les retournés enroulés
a decatlon, j'ai vu des matelas autogonflants plus epais mais ils n'existent qu'en grands, je veut bien faire un effort pour le poids, mais il faut pas exagerer .et puis dans les avions, le poids ca coute cher et pour l'instant ont s'en est toujours tires sans supplements.
mais question matelas je trouve qu'ils n'ont pas beaucoup evolués et notre petit dos ? ils y pense a notre petit dos ? et pis, une bonne nuit, c'est reparateur pour rouler le lendemain a+ 😉
mais question matelas je trouve qu'ils n'ont pas beaucoup evolués et notre petit dos ? ils y pense a notre petit dos ? et pis, une bonne nuit, c'est reparateur pour rouler le lendemain a+ 😉
Une astuce c'est d'emporter un gros pull, ça sert aussi bien la journée quand il fait froid que comme amolisseur de matelat la nuit !
Les matelas autogonflant sont une mauvaise solution car on transporte dans le matelas des éléments (mousse ou autres ???) destinés à favoriser le gonflage ; ils sont donc très lourds en comparaison de leurs épaisseurs. Sans ces pesants éléments il faudrait simplement souffler un peu plus fort en fin de journée!!!
J'ai trouvé un matelas pneumatique d'environ 800 grammes (trigano) . Contrairement aux matelas pneumatiques classiques qui sont composés de 4 boudins d'un diametre d'environ 10 ou 15 cm (4fois15=60cm de large), il est composé de 6 boudins de plus faible section (7 à 10cm) ce qui fait un matelas un peu moins épais mais suffisant. Je met dessus un matelas mousse avec film alu d'environ 400grammes qui me sert aussi en extérieur au bivouac (c'est mon option confort) . J'ai ainsi un couchage "épais et isolé" de 1kg200, ce qui est trop, c'est toujours trop, mais qu'il faut comparer aux autogonflants de 500g (les petits de 120cm de long) à 2kg (pour 5cm d'épaisseur). De plus j'ai l'avantage de faire travailler un peu mes poumons le soir car, le vélo, c'est connu, c'est uniquement une question de mollets 😏... Dégonflé et plié le matelas pneu se range avec le sac de couchage.
Néanmoins la meilleur solution est le hamac. Ca pése moins de 300grammes et il suffit d'emmener 2 pieux, une barre à mine et une masse pour le faire tenir😛.
Luc
Un sac de 27 kg (25kg d'affaires, tente& popotte et 2 de sac) sur une chariotte de 5, 5 kg...
J'ai trouvé un matelas pneumatique d'environ 800 grammes (trigano) . Contrairement aux matelas pneumatiques classiques qui sont composés de 4 boudins d'un diametre d'environ 10 ou 15 cm (4fois15=60cm de large), il est composé de 6 boudins de plus faible section (7 à 10cm) ce qui fait un matelas un peu moins épais mais suffisant. Je met dessus un matelas mousse avec film alu d'environ 400grammes qui me sert aussi en extérieur au bivouac (c'est mon option confort) . J'ai ainsi un couchage "épais et isolé" de 1kg200, ce qui est trop, c'est toujours trop, mais qu'il faut comparer aux autogonflants de 500g (les petits de 120cm de long) à 2kg (pour 5cm d'épaisseur). De plus j'ai l'avantage de faire travailler un peu mes poumons le soir car, le vélo, c'est connu, c'est uniquement une question de mollets 😏... Dégonflé et plié le matelas pneu se range avec le sac de couchage.
Néanmoins la meilleur solution est le hamac. Ca pése moins de 300grammes et il suffit d'emmener 2 pieux, une barre à mine et une masse pour le faire tenir😛.
Luc
Un sac de 27 kg (25kg d'affaires, tente& popotte et 2 de sac) sur une chariotte de 5, 5 kg...
Salut,
Perso après avoir essayé les matelas mousse, les matelas autogonflant de "sous-marque", longue taille et qui n'a pas tenu le coup, j'ai un Artiach, le compact-mat je crois, qui va jusqu'à mes genoux et j'en suis plus que ravie. Il est super léger, suffisament épais (2.5 ou 3 cm je ne sais plus) et super costaud. Je le trimballe partout, cyclo ou pas, il devient super compact en le pliant (car je le repli en deux dans la longueur avant de le rouler) et il tient sans pbm dans mon boudin avec mon duvet! Et il est super costaud!
Question confort c'est la vie de château en comparaison du matelas mousse que j'avais avant. Pour rien au monde je ne rendrais mon Artiach!!! C'est mon tip top de matelas à moi et question poids/prix/confort, c'est du tout bon!!!
Voilà🙂
Perso après avoir essayé les matelas mousse, les matelas autogonflant de "sous-marque", longue taille et qui n'a pas tenu le coup, j'ai un Artiach, le compact-mat je crois, qui va jusqu'à mes genoux et j'en suis plus que ravie. Il est super léger, suffisament épais (2.5 ou 3 cm je ne sais plus) et super costaud. Je le trimballe partout, cyclo ou pas, il devient super compact en le pliant (car je le repli en deux dans la longueur avant de le rouler) et il tient sans pbm dans mon boudin avec mon duvet! Et il est super costaud!
Question confort c'est la vie de château en comparaison du matelas mousse que j'avais avant. Pour rien au monde je ne rendrais mon Artiach!!! C'est mon tip top de matelas à moi et question poids/prix/confort, c'est du tout bon!!!
Voilà🙂
Sinon les tapis de sol en mousse "ridge a rest" de thermarest sont très léger et bien plus comfortables que d'autres matelas en mousse. En plus il est tout terrain ! 😇
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tu ne l'echangerais meme pas contre 2 barils d'ariel ?
jure le !
et contre une pedalette ?
et au fait tu l'as acheté ou ?
a tu un matelas comme ca ?
si oui peut tu me vanter leurs performances et principales caractéristiques positives ou negatives ?
merki d'avance
Oui j'en ai un. Il est tout neuf et je l'ai essayé qu'une seule fois.
Negatif: Il n'est pas autogonflant alors c'est plus long (1-2 minutes).
Positif: 7 cm de confort! Plus léger et plus compact que mon Thermarest Ultralight.
J'ai acheté le mien chez mec.ca. Je ne sais trop où tu pourrais le trouver en Europe. Exped en fait un bourré au duvet. Plus chaud mais très dispendieux et le gonflement se fait avec le sac de transport pour ne pas humidifier le duvet en soufflant dedans.
Negatif: Il n'est pas autogonflant alors c'est plus long (1-2 minutes).
Positif: 7 cm de confort! Plus léger et plus compact que mon Thermarest Ultralight.
J'ai acheté le mien chez mec.ca. Je ne sais trop où tu pourrais le trouver en Europe. Exped en fait un bourré au duvet. Plus chaud mais très dispendieux et le gonflement se fait avec le sac de transport pour ne pas humidifier le duvet en soufflant dedans.
Euh je sais pas si on me posai la question mais je répond quand même : le ridge a rest de thermarest il est au papi camper (pour ne pas le citer!) à paris, pour 25 euros je crois.... Leger, compact, plutôt comfortable. Il est aussi parait il très isolant, et utilisé en haute montagne car il s'adapte aux terrains pierreux...
Mes voyages : http://errance.s.free.fr
Mon site de photo : http://yannickguyot.wordpress.com
Exped en fait un bourré au duvet. Plus chaud mais très dispendieux et le gonflement se fait avec le sac de transport pour ne pas humidifier le duvet en soufflant dedans.
J'ai vu, touché et même essayé (quelques minutes) ce matelas utilisé par un Suisse de la société Exped . Cela ma semblé très intéressant du point de vue confort et isolation car du duvet est emprisonné dans les boudins les empèchant de rouler comme pour un matelas caoutchouc. Le gonflage se fait effectivement très rapidement à l'aide du sac de rangement à enroulement. C'est un peu plus lourd qu'1 thermarest ultralight( 940 grammes pour 1, 80m) mais aussi plus confortable. Je ne trouve pas de revendeur en France. www.exped.com à+ François
J'ai vu, touché et même essayé (quelques minutes) ce matelas utilisé par un Suisse de la société Exped . Cela ma semblé très intéressant du point de vue confort et isolation car du duvet est emprisonné dans les boudins les empèchant de rouler comme pour un matelas caoutchouc. Le gonflage se fait effectivement très rapidement à l'aide du sac de rangement à enroulement. C'est un peu plus lourd qu'1 thermarest ultralight( 940 grammes pour 1, 80m) mais aussi plus confortable. Je ne trouve pas de revendeur en France. www.exped.com à+ François
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Moi après la journée de vélo je dors sur des pierres sans problème.... 😉
Vous forcez pas assez les gars.... ou alors vous êtes trop entrainés !!
perso les tapis/matela de sol, je les divisent en 3 catégories :
les mousses simple (type tapis pour le yoga) environ 1 a 3 cm d'épaisseur. parfait pour l'été, car bien aeré, isole de l'humidité mais pas de la fraicheur des sous bois. > bien pour l'été, mais déconseillé au plus de 70kg : au dessus de 70kg le matela devient trop écrasé pour pouvoir faire un plat uniforme la il y a des bosses/gravier.
2: les mousses autogonflantes (il s'agit de tapis leger et fin ; 2 à 5 cm d'épaisseur. c'est de la mousse qui s'expand lorsqu'on ouvre la valve. puis une fois la mousse bien détendu on refeme la valve.)
meme topo que le precedent si ce n'est que supporte plus de poids, et isole peu du sol car svt court (150 cm de long)
3: tapis/matelas conflable. soit en plastique, soit en tissu synthétique. en général 5 a 10 cm d'épaisseur, 70 a 110 de large. un vrai matela de poche et aussi confortable que ceux des vrai plumard. par contre, creve facillement pour ceux en plastique. (je conseil ceux en tissu, totallemnt increvable et ne moississant jms). isole très bien du sol, empèche les insecte de monter sur soi. bref le rêve, sauf que (ya tjs un "mais") fo le gonfler tt les jours, pas pratique si le sol est pentu, pcq on glisse a cause du sac de couchage. mais ca reste svt moins encombrant ue les autres tapis de sol. et coute svt cher.
voilou, perso j'ai opter pour une mousse, comme je suis un "chien maigre" ( 70 kg, mince et grand ; 1, 80 metre, plutôt musclé). et ca me convient largement pouyr des voyages de 2 semaines environ.
NB: la tente 2 seconde c'est UNE CONNERIE !
pcq ca résist pas aux vents de plus de 50km/h en continu : en fit les barres se tordent et on du mal a se re-rentré les unes ds les autres par la suite. ensuite c'est énorme et c'est intransportable sur un vélo ( ya du vécu). en fait c'est une tente plus camping (type tu pose ta tente pr 2 semaine et tu la bouge plus du tt pdt les 14 jours a venir.) que cyclo camping (montage/démontage de tente all day).
NB²: le hamac c'est le best si tu campe "sauvage" ds la foret.
les mousses simple (type tapis pour le yoga) environ 1 a 3 cm d'épaisseur. parfait pour l'été, car bien aeré, isole de l'humidité mais pas de la fraicheur des sous bois. > bien pour l'été, mais déconseillé au plus de 70kg : au dessus de 70kg le matela devient trop écrasé pour pouvoir faire un plat uniforme la il y a des bosses/gravier.
2: les mousses autogonflantes (il s'agit de tapis leger et fin ; 2 à 5 cm d'épaisseur. c'est de la mousse qui s'expand lorsqu'on ouvre la valve. puis une fois la mousse bien détendu on refeme la valve.)
meme topo que le precedent si ce n'est que supporte plus de poids, et isole peu du sol car svt court (150 cm de long)
3: tapis/matelas conflable. soit en plastique, soit en tissu synthétique. en général 5 a 10 cm d'épaisseur, 70 a 110 de large. un vrai matela de poche et aussi confortable que ceux des vrai plumard. par contre, creve facillement pour ceux en plastique. (je conseil ceux en tissu, totallemnt increvable et ne moississant jms). isole très bien du sol, empèche les insecte de monter sur soi. bref le rêve, sauf que (ya tjs un "mais") fo le gonfler tt les jours, pas pratique si le sol est pentu, pcq on glisse a cause du sac de couchage. mais ca reste svt moins encombrant ue les autres tapis de sol. et coute svt cher.
voilou, perso j'ai opter pour une mousse, comme je suis un "chien maigre" ( 70 kg, mince et grand ; 1, 80 metre, plutôt musclé). et ca me convient largement pouyr des voyages de 2 semaines environ.
NB: la tente 2 seconde c'est UNE CONNERIE !
pcq ca résist pas aux vents de plus de 50km/h en continu : en fit les barres se tordent et on du mal a se re-rentré les unes ds les autres par la suite. ensuite c'est énorme et c'est intransportable sur un vélo ( ya du vécu). en fait c'est une tente plus camping (type tu pose ta tente pr 2 semaine et tu la bouge plus du tt pdt les 14 jours a venir.) que cyclo camping (montage/démontage de tente all day).
NB²: le hamac c'est le best si tu campe "sauvage" ds la foret.
aurèle
Je viens de rentrer après 10 ours et un peu plus de 1000 km. Pour mon premier voyage, j'avait un simple matelas mousse ke je posait sur un tapis fait avec mes différentes affaires. Ainsi c'était plutôt confotable, enfin aucun souçis au dos la nuit etc... J'arrivait même à l'apprecier ce couchage!!
les mousses simple (type tapis pour le yoga) environ 1 a 3 cm d'épaisseur. parfait pour l'été, car bien aeré, isole de l'humidité mais pas de la fraicheur des sous bois.
> bien pour l'été, mais déconseillé au plus de 70kg : au dessus de 70kg le matela devient trop écrasé pour pouvoir faire un plat uniforme la il y a des bosses/gravier.
Je ne connais pas les tapis de yoga mais les matelas de sol en mousse dense, le fameux matelas bleu, demeure le meilleur isolant. Il est encore très populaire chez les campeurs d'hiver. Pas très comfortable cependant, ni compact.
Je ne connais pas les tapis de yoga mais les matelas de sol en mousse dense, le fameux matelas bleu, demeure le meilleur isolant. Il est encore très populaire chez les campeurs d'hiver. Pas très comfortable cependant, ni compact.
ps :
la tente 2 secondes c'est pour le montage.
pour le piage, c'est 2 heures .
d'accord avec toi stef ! mais les pierres c'est plus lourd qu'un matelas a transporter et pis tu les achete ou ? 😉
Lol nounours .
Sinon la solution c'est de voyager av nounours pr la nuit
Bon et comment faire pr tromper le ressassement ? L'an dernier je voyais des panneaux défiler ds mon sommeil . Telle ville 10 km, camping 200 m à droite, ect . Je me demande même si je moulinais pas ds la tente . La nuit, bon dieu, c'est quoi ds ces conditions, juste un essieu qui grince entre 2 roues . Et j'en dirai et j'en dirai, l'aliénation du cycliste qui pédale qui pédale . Bon j'étais peut-être un peu seul aussi . : /
Je me demande si un somnambule serait capable de sortir d'une tente tunnel . Et s'il arriverait à éviter les tendeurs . Un tendeur ca peut vous faire fuir un voleur. Bon je m'égare
Sinon la solution c'est de voyager av nounours pr la nuit
Bon et comment faire pr tromper le ressassement ? L'an dernier je voyais des panneaux défiler ds mon sommeil . Telle ville 10 km, camping 200 m à droite, ect . Je me demande même si je moulinais pas ds la tente . La nuit, bon dieu, c'est quoi ds ces conditions, juste un essieu qui grince entre 2 roues . Et j'en dirai et j'en dirai, l'aliénation du cycliste qui pédale qui pédale . Bon j'étais peut-être un peu seul aussi . : /
Je me demande si un somnambule serait capable de sortir d'une tente tunnel . Et s'il arriverait à éviter les tendeurs . Un tendeur ca peut vous faire fuir un voleur. Bon je m'égare
ont s'ecarte un peu du sujet mais je me posais aussi une question qui ressort peut etre de la medecine.
il m'arrive aussi la nuit dans mes reves de pedaler une bonne partie de la nuit et le lendemain j'ai les muscles assez raides ( attention j'ai bien dit les muscles ) ne me boycotté pas tout de suite les gars de forum v..
je me demande alors si cela equivaut a un entrainement puisque" c'est bien le cerveau qui commande les muscles meme dans l'inconscient.
comme j'ai un cerveau meme s'il n'est pas gros et si c'est le cas, ca m'arrangerais bien de m'entrainer en dormant ( enorme gain de temps et pas de crevaisons, sauf virtuelles )😉
une autre chose qui n'a encore rien a voir et qui me titille l'esprit moi qui voyage en parlant tres peu les langues etrangeres pour ne pas dire presque pas. si la veille de partir pour donner un exemple cette année en turquie! je me fait transfuser un peu de sang turc, est ce que cela va m'aider ? c'etait juste une question !!!!!!!!🏴☠️
une autre chose qui n'a encore rien a voir et qui me titille l'esprit moi qui voyage en parlant tres peu les langues etrangeres pour ne pas dire presque pas. si la veille de partir pour donner un exemple cette année en turquie! je me fait transfuser un peu de sang turc, est ce que cela va m'aider ? c'etait juste une question !!!!!!!!🏴☠️
Je parle un peu plus haut d'un matelas mixte gonflant et duvet de marque Exped.com
J'ai trouvé un revendeur en France : le v.... cam...r
bonne nuit en camping
François
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Hi there,
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires. I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time). I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
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I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
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I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires. I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time). I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral. I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough? And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Nath
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It covers everything from the trans-America route to the TCR (Trans Continental Race) from Belgium to a small town in Turkey, with mind-blowing averages—4,000 km and 80,000 m of elevation gain in 8 days and 15 hours for the winner. Let that sink in, and all of it without assistance—accepting a patch could penalize you. There’s also a story about crossing Iran, encountering one of the world’s most welcoming populations, following in the footsteps of Nicolas Bouvier, as well as retirees leisurely traversing France. The common thread in all these stories? Beautiful writing. Take, for example, a stunning article: *"Passengers of the Cold: From Edinburgh to Thurso, at the very north of Scotland, 550 km of moors, coasts, and icy wind. In Thurso, the road ends at a quay, facing the Orkney Islands. We wanted a November trip, off-season. We wanted to surprise winter. Just before the snow."* A sublime piece on the experience of facing adversity and the chance encounters along the road and in the elements.
Before I embarked on my own bike trips, I dreamed a lot about them—from the Atacama to the Gobi, along the Mekong, and not forgetting France. And now, these 130 pages every quarter keep those dreamy vibes alive through stories written in the most beautiful prose.
I’ll stop here because it might sound like I’m advertising, but if you don’t know *200*, I invite you to discover it. It’ll give you wings for the most incredible challenges or simply reinforce your desire for slow rides with your eyes open to others and nature.
A little news to wrap up: Axel Carion and a friend just broke the record for crossing South America from Colombia to Ushuaia in 59 days. On its own, that doesn’t mean much, but I can’t help it—it makes me dream. You should see how he talks about it, the flashes of that wild nature he’s stored away: a snowstorm at Paso Jama and the surreal sight of the suddenly snow-covered Licancabur!
Luc PS: The magazine is called *200* because a day’s ride starts at 200 km—well, I’ve never done a ride like that since my longest was 167 km (with 18 kg of luggage, mind you), but why not one day? The magazine will explain how to tackle your first 200, and then the question in conclusion: when will you do your first 300?😏
It covers everything from the trans-America route to the TCR (Trans Continental Race) from Belgium to a small town in Turkey, with mind-blowing averages—4,000 km and 80,000 m of elevation gain in 8 days and 15 hours for the winner. Let that sink in, and all of it without assistance—accepting a patch could penalize you. There’s also a story about crossing Iran, encountering one of the world’s most welcoming populations, following in the footsteps of Nicolas Bouvier, as well as retirees leisurely traversing France. The common thread in all these stories? Beautiful writing. Take, for example, a stunning article: *"Passengers of the Cold: From Edinburgh to Thurso, at the very north of Scotland, 550 km of moors, coasts, and icy wind. In Thurso, the road ends at a quay, facing the Orkney Islands. We wanted a November trip, off-season. We wanted to surprise winter. Just before the snow."* A sublime piece on the experience of facing adversity and the chance encounters along the road and in the elements.
Before I embarked on my own bike trips, I dreamed a lot about them—from the Atacama to the Gobi, along the Mekong, and not forgetting France. And now, these 130 pages every quarter keep those dreamy vibes alive through stories written in the most beautiful prose.
I’ll stop here because it might sound like I’m advertising, but if you don’t know *200*, I invite you to discover it. It’ll give you wings for the most incredible challenges or simply reinforce your desire for slow rides with your eyes open to others and nature.
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hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

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Are there routes with light traffic along the Brahmaputra and through Nepal?
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Thanks for your feedback!
Hi there,
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
After testing it for three years across various modes of transport, I’m sharing this video of a bike packing case. It’s made from recycled cardboard and shrink-wrapped, with adjustable thickness and added bubble wrap depending on the level of protection you want.
Installing spacers at the fork and chainstays makes the packaging compact. With the fifteen-odd euros for shrink-wrapping at the airport, this case travels really well.
https://youtu.be/_GDJi-GqmkM
- Low bulk (1.10m x 0.70m x 0.25m for a large frame), it fits vertically in train luggage compartments and the total dimensions (x+y+z) don’t exceed 2.40m.
- Two carrying solutions for public transport and easy handling by airport staff (no more tears in the cardboard from openings).
- Discreet packaging when dealing with bus drivers and train conductors, as it looks like an ordinary parcel.
- No need to return to the starting point to retrieve the case from your outbound trip, which you’d otherwise have to store somewhere, or deal with a bulky cover to pack in your panniers.
- You can still check tire pressure through the plastic film without damaging the packaging too much.
Drawbacks: Around 3 hours for this lengthy and meticulous process—removing the wheels, pedals, handlebars, and derailleur without misaligning them, then securing all components to the frame.
If you get a chance to test it, send me your feedback for future improvements.


Can you take an electric bike on trains in Austria, Germany, and Switzerland?
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
hey everyone,
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection