L'aéroport de Pointe à Pitre vient de fermer (17 février 2009)
by Dennis
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Raison invoqué : manque de personnel.........
pas grave
il reste la possibilité de rapatrier les touristes par mer 😉
ça leur fera une p'tite prolongation par une croisière supplémentaire 😏 😏 😏
.......l'aéroport doit ré-ouvrir pour les vols en provenance de la métropole.........c'est en dents de scie leur machin, c'est stressant pour les gens ayant juste un vol sec..........
........l'aéroport doit ré-ouvrir pour les vols en provenance de la métropole.........c'est en dents de scie leur machin, c'est stressant pour les gens ayant juste un vol sec..........
et surtout ça permet de ne faire venir que les avions que l'on souhaite !!!
et surtout ça permet de ne faire venir que les avions que l'on souhaite !!!
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
ils se battent certes pour leur "steack"
mais ils sont en train de ternir très fortement l'image des antilles, les touristes vont surement bouder un long moment ces destinations.
il ya des supers promotions pour les vols sur les antilles!!!!! mais c'est tellement cher là bas et comme nous sommes très très mal accueillis ils vont avoir du mal à remplir les vols
la république dominicaine, cuba et le mexique vont être saturées, ils vont récupérer tout le monde....
il ya des supers promotions pour les vols sur les antilles!!!!! mais c'est tellement cher là bas et comme nous sommes très très mal accueillis ils vont avoir du mal à remplir les vols
la république dominicaine, cuba et le mexique vont être saturées, ils vont récupérer tout le monde....
alors vive les ghettos touristiques ou les vacanciers bien protégés derrière des murs cache-misère peuvent bronzer tranquillement sans se soucier du peuple qui vit dans le plus grand denuement et ne profite même pas des devises rapportées,
si c'est comme ça que vous auriez voulu voir les Antilles, non merci !
P.S. concernant la vie chère, c'est justement la raison de la mobilisation dans les DOM, qui profitera également aux touristes, alors mieux vaut soutenir que condamner. on peut juste regretter les débordements souvent inévitables quand les autorités concernées tardent à trouver des solutions.
P.S. concernant la vie chère, c'est justement la raison de la mobilisation dans les DOM, qui profitera également aux touristes, alors mieux vaut soutenir que condamner. on peut juste regretter les débordements souvent inévitables quand les autorités concernées tardent à trouver des solutions.
100% d'accord avec vous !
Je trouve les antilles bien plus authentiques que les vacances dans les 4 etoiles de Cuba ou en rep Dom completement artificiels et coupé de la vraie vie de ces pays
je suis de tout coeur avec les Antillais !
WWW.GRANCANARIA.COM imaginez une ile !
Je partage entièrement ton point de vue... Je suis métropolitain, mais j'adore les Antilles et je trouve qu'on les respecte pas assez avec des tarifs exhorbitants et une présence de l'Etat bien trop faible...
Pourquoi Sarko préfére aller aux Championnats de Val d'Isère plutôt qu'aller aux Antilles régler le problème ou occuper le terrain?
Pitoyable ce gouvernement... Il pense qu'à lui!
Voyager, c'est ma devise...
iledereve, c'est quand même dingue ça ! Quand Sarkozy se déplace on lui reproche de prendre la place de ses ministres. Pour une fois qu'il laisse son ministre, Yves Jégo, travailler avec efficacité et endurance (23 heures de négociations non-stop) dans des conditions difficiles, on le lui reproche à nouveau... Que faut-il faire ? Je pense que tu es prêts à payer de ta poche 200 euros à tous les salariés touchant moins de 1.4 SMIC localement ? Moi, non, désolé, je n'en ai pas l'argent. Je travaille dur, je travaille encore plus dur pour gagner un petit plus ou éviter de gagner moins, et je n'aimerai pas qu'on donne 200 euros à des gens qui manifestent.
débordements souvent inévitables quand les autorités concernées tardent à trouver des solutions.
C'est justement là-dessus que je ne suis pas d'accord : des négociations, oui, avec la menace de grève, oui, mais de toutes façons trouver de bonnes solutions ne peut être que long. Sinon on va se retrouver, comme pour tous les autres domaines, avec des "mesurettes" saupoudrées plus ou moins "généreusement". Rien de ce dont ont réellement besoin les DOM.
C'est justement là-dessus que je ne suis pas d'accord : des négociations, oui, avec la menace de grève, oui, mais de toutes façons trouver de bonnes solutions ne peut être que long. Sinon on va se retrouver, comme pour tous les autres domaines, avec des "mesurettes" saupoudrées plus ou moins "généreusement". Rien de ce dont ont réellement besoin les DOM.
Je crois que tu confonds pas mal de choses...
Quand je dis que Sarko n'est pas aux Antilles, mais plutôt au SKI, excuses moi du peu, mais je pense qu'au moins dire un mot à ces compatriotes sur le sujet ne serait pas de trop. Or on l'entend parler de tout et de rien, mais là, pour le coup, il brille par son absence... Un crise, ça se règle, on négocie, on avance des hypothèses, on écoute et on répond. Là, y'a rien et la grève dure depuis 1 mois maintenant...
Par contre dès qu'il s'agit d'intervenir dans Voici, Gala ou encore de faire arrêter les voleurs du scooter du fiston, là, on déploie les grands moyens...
Et puis, le pauvre Yves JEGO se fout de la gueule des manifestants. Ok 200€ par personne et par mois c'est beaucoup, mais qu'est-ce qu'il a proposé??? Comment se fait-il que les industries du pétrole gagnent autant de bénéfice et ne fassent pas baisser les prix à la pompe surtout dans le DOM-TOM??? 1, 40€ le litre alors que le baril est à 35$/40$ le baril, c'est inadmissible...
Voyager, c'est ma devise...
bizarre, on trouve normal que Sarko s'augmente considérablement son salaire ( pas besoin de négociations ), mais donner de quoi vivre décemment aux plus pauvres pose problème;
la vie serait-elle plus chère pour les plus nantis seulement ?
Ben si tu trouves que les aides apportées par Yves JEGO en passant plus d'heures dans les avions qu'à la table des négociations, si tu trouves aussi que les aides apportées aux Antilles (et au français moyen) sont du même accabi que les sommes apportées aux banques pour qu'elles recommencent à nous enfler, alors oui, l'Etat n'est pas assez présent aux côtés de ses concitoyens...
Voyager, c'est ma devise...
que les sommes apportées aux banques pour qu'elles recommencent à nous enfler
+10 tout à fait exact
Eh bien non. Tout à fait FAUX. L'Etat n'a pas apporté 1 seul euro aux banques. Il se porte caution et prête lui-même à un taux d'intérêt fort avantageux pour lui (et donc pour NOUS) : 8%. Il faut arrêter de raconter n'importe quoi. Sur le reste, je ne reviendrai pas, mais il faut juste avoir en tête que les DOM sont les territoires d'Europe qui reçoivent le plus de subventions, et où la part de la population travaillant pour l'Etat y est la plus forte. D'accord, il y a des abus de positions monopolistiques et sans doute aussi des problèmes sociaux importants, mais de là à dire que l'Etat n'est pas assez présent, faut pas pousser. C'est archi-faux et démago.
+10 tout à fait exact
Eh bien non. Tout à fait FAUX. L'Etat n'a pas apporté 1 seul euro aux banques. Il se porte caution et prête lui-même à un taux d'intérêt fort avantageux pour lui (et donc pour NOUS) : 8%. Il faut arrêter de raconter n'importe quoi. Sur le reste, je ne reviendrai pas, mais il faut juste avoir en tête que les DOM sont les territoires d'Europe qui reçoivent le plus de subventions, et où la part de la population travaillant pour l'Etat y est la plus forte. D'accord, il y a des abus de positions monopolistiques et sans doute aussi des problèmes sociaux importants, mais de là à dire que l'Etat n'est pas assez présent, faut pas pousser. C'est archi-faux et démago.
La multiplication des A/R PAR > PTT c'est juste pour que Yves Jego garde son statut elite chez AF et qu'il evite de perdre ses points à partir du 1er Avril, la crise en Guadeloupe est tombé à pique pour ces petits miles 😛.
Plus sérieusement cela fait plaisir de voir Albathor et spassenger83 rétablir certaines vérités sur les actions du gouvernement.
C'est tout de meme pitoyable que lorsque que l'on parle d'un problème aussi serieux tel que la crise en Guadeloupe, les manifestants trouvent comme argument à la protestation, la hausse du salaire du Psdt, l'argent soit disant "donné" aux banques, les unes des couvertures du couple dans Voici...il ne manque plus que vous nous parliez du paquet fiscal et de tout le bien que vous en pensez. Plutot que de vous attaquer aux personnes, attaquer vous aux réformes et essayez de les comprendres!
N'oublions pas que la Guadeloupe et les DOM en général font perdent énormement d'argent à l'Etat (l'économie touristique ne permet pas de compenser) car ces térritoires vivent sous perfusion grace aux subventions de l'état. les DOM sans l'état cela serait plus ou moins Haiti!
Et dire que l'on n'a meme pas etez capable de trouver du petrole en Guyanne Française alors qu'il y en a partout autour lol!
Plus sérieusement cela fait plaisir de voir Albathor et spassenger83 rétablir certaines vérités sur les actions du gouvernement.
C'est tout de meme pitoyable que lorsque que l'on parle d'un problème aussi serieux tel que la crise en Guadeloupe, les manifestants trouvent comme argument à la protestation, la hausse du salaire du Psdt, l'argent soit disant "donné" aux banques, les unes des couvertures du couple dans Voici...il ne manque plus que vous nous parliez du paquet fiscal et de tout le bien que vous en pensez. Plutot que de vous attaquer aux personnes, attaquer vous aux réformes et essayez de les comprendres!
N'oublions pas que la Guadeloupe et les DOM en général font perdent énormement d'argent à l'Etat (l'économie touristique ne permet pas de compenser) car ces térritoires vivent sous perfusion grace aux subventions de l'état. les DOM sans l'état cela serait plus ou moins Haiti!
Et dire que l'on n'a meme pas etez capable de trouver du petrole en Guyanne Française alors qu'il y en a partout autour lol!
Mes vidéos de vols sur Vimeo
Ma carte de voyage sur Openflights
Le hic est que ce conflit semble être bien instrumentalisé par les indépendantistes sur place, et l'extrême gauche française mettant de l'huile sur le feu, alors que les revendications sont bien légitimes !
On parle de Yves Jego qui est allé la bas pour tenter de résoudre le conflit... mais on pourrait aussi citer Besancenot qui en profite aussi pour aller cummuler des miles AF avant les nouveaux barêmes, et qui sur place ne va faire qu'attiser la tension déja tres forte ! Il serait tres étonnant que cette visite permettre de résoudre le probleme... sauf peut etre celui du renouvellement du statut Flying Blue PLAT du facteur révolutionnaire!
On parle de Yves Jego qui est allé la bas pour tenter de résoudre le conflit... mais on pourrait aussi citer Besancenot qui en profite aussi pour aller cummuler des miles AF avant les nouveaux barêmes, et qui sur place ne va faire qu'attiser la tension déja tres forte ! Il serait tres étonnant que cette visite permettre de résoudre le probleme... sauf peut etre celui du renouvellement du statut Flying Blue PLAT du facteur révolutionnaire!
... sauf peut etre celui du renouvellement du statut Flying Blue PLAT du facteur révolutionnaire !
On peut se consoller en imaginant qu'il à du voyager en Y, tarif promo, cumul 25% de miles 😛
On peut se consoller en imaginant qu'il à du voyager en Y, tarif promo, cumul 25% de miles 😛
Mes vidéos de vols sur Vimeo
Ma carte de voyage sur Openflights
La multiplication des A/R PAR > PTT c'est juste pour que Yves Jego garde son statut elite chez AF et qu'il evite de perdre ses points à partir du 1er Avril, la crise en Guadeloupe est tombé à pique pour ces petits miles . ........avec le Falcon, on accumule pas les miles.........
Eh bien non. Tout à fait FAUX. L'Etat n'a pas apporté 1 seul euro aux banques. Il se porte caution et prête lui-même à un taux d'intérêt fort avantageux pour lui (et donc pour NOUS) : 8%. Il faut arrêter de raconter n'importe quoi.
Oui, mais il convient d'être complet et d'ajouter que: 1/ l'Etat doit emprunter l'argent qu'il prête, donc la rémunération n'est pas 8% mais (8% - taux emprunt); 2/ ce faisant l'Etat dégrade sa situation auprès des marchés financiers, ce qui signifie que le loyer de l'argent sera plus cher pour lui à l'avenir, et 3/ en contrepartie de la rémunération il assume le risque de défaillance de la banque (non remboursement de la dette), qui lui coûterait alors fort cher...
Donc l'opération n'est peut-être pas forcément mauvaise pour le contribuable, mais pas aussi bonne qu'on veut nous le faire croire en racontant seulement la moitié de l'histoire, et en tout cas elle est loin d'être anodine.
A propos des aller-retour d'Yves Jego: les rotations ont été faites avec un Falcon gouvernemental, nettement plus confortable qu'AF mais pas de miles ! 😉
Oui, mais il convient d'être complet et d'ajouter que: 1/ l'Etat doit emprunter l'argent qu'il prête, donc la rémunération n'est pas 8% mais (8% - taux emprunt); 2/ ce faisant l'Etat dégrade sa situation auprès des marchés financiers, ce qui signifie que le loyer de l'argent sera plus cher pour lui à l'avenir, et 3/ en contrepartie de la rémunération il assume le risque de défaillance de la banque (non remboursement de la dette), qui lui coûterait alors fort cher...
Donc l'opération n'est peut-être pas forcément mauvaise pour le contribuable, mais pas aussi bonne qu'on veut nous le faire croire en racontant seulement la moitié de l'histoire, et en tout cas elle est loin d'être anodine.
A propos des aller-retour d'Yves Jego: les rotations ont été faites avec un Falcon gouvernemental, nettement plus confortable qu'AF mais pas de miles ! 😉
C'est amusant, pour une fois, en vous y mettant à deux (Airbone et Albathor), vous avez été complet dans l'explication concernant le soi-disant cadeau fait aux Banques.
Mais vous prechez malheureusement dans le désert total, quelle que soit la vérité, elle n'intéresse absolument pas les gens, qui dans ce domaine comme dans beaucoup d'autres, réagissent par convictions (qui sont quasiment des dogmes), seules les infos approuvant leurs opinions sont recevables.
Oui, mais il convient d'être complet et d'ajouter que: 1/ l'Etat doit emprunter l'argent qu'il prête, donc la rémunération n'est pas 8% mais (8% - taux emprunt); 2/ ce faisant l'Etat dégrade sa situation auprès des marchés financiers, ce qui signifie que le loyer de l'argent sera plus cher pour lui à l'avenir, et 3/ en contrepartie de la rémunération il assume le risque de défaillance de la banque (non remboursement de la dette), qui lui coûterait alors fort cher...
Pas tout à fait d'accord, car il me semble que l'Etat doit puiser dans les livres de la Caisse des dépôts (l'épargne des français, quoi), ce qui ne devrait donc pas coûter un euro. Mais est-ce bien comme cela que ça va se passer... Bien sûr, se porter caution est un risque, là dessus on est d'accord. en cas de défaillance, ça coûtera cher. Mais il y avait urgence. C'était ça ou un naufrage complet de tout le système.
Pas tout à fait d'accord, car il me semble que l'Etat doit puiser dans les livres de la Caisse des dépôts (l'épargne des français, quoi), ce qui ne devrait donc pas coûter un euro. Mais est-ce bien comme cela que ça va se passer... Bien sûr, se porter caution est un risque, là dessus on est d'accord. en cas de défaillance, ça coûtera cher. Mais il y avait urgence. C'était ça ou un naufrage complet de tout le système.
seules les infos approuvant leurs opinions sont recevables.
Eh oui. C'est très connu. En aviation (puisqu'on est sur un forum 'compagnies aériennes'), on appelle ça le "biais de confirmation" : on ne prend en compte (de façon quasi-inconsciente) que les arguments tendant à accréditer sa propre thèse, jamais les autres. Enfin, là où c'est plus grave, c'est quand le biais se transforme en dogme. Là, peu de solutions existent, effectivement ! 😐
Eh oui. C'est très connu. En aviation (puisqu'on est sur un forum 'compagnies aériennes'), on appelle ça le "biais de confirmation" : on ne prend en compte (de façon quasi-inconsciente) que les arguments tendant à accréditer sa propre thèse, jamais les autres. Enfin, là où c'est plus grave, c'est quand le biais se transforme en dogme. Là, peu de solutions existent, effectivement ! 😐
Comme toute la classe politique française (de droite à gauche) il a une carte Club 2000 et son ATTN est VIPOFF
Tssss, on dit VIPO, mais on s'égare ;-)
Tssss, on dit VIPO, mais on s'égare ;-)
Halte à la désinformation.
Les conseilleurs ne sont pas les payeurs.
1/ Yves Jégo, comme tous les ministres et parlementaires est Club 2000, il n'a pas donc pas à cumuler des miles pour conserver ce statut.
2/ Les rotations sur ses 2 derniers voyages en Guadeloupe ont été faites à hauteur de 50% sur Flacon gouvernemental (question d'horaire, départ le soir... je n'ose imaginer ce qu'il aurait subi s'il avait repoussé son départ au lendemain matin...), et à 50% sur AF.
3/ Partie Salaire. Trouvez-vous que le salaire d'un parlementaire (environ 5500 euros mensuels) soit normal ? Moi, oui. Trouvez-vous que le salaire d'un ministre soit d'environ 13000 euros mensuels ? Oui, d'autant plus que le privé le rémunérerait bien davantage pour la tâche fournie.
Trouvez-vous normal que le salaire d'un président soit deux fois inférieur à celui d'un ministre (c'était le cas avant la hausse votée par le parlement en 2007) ? Moi non.
Trouvez-vous normal que le salaire d'un Président soit d'environ 19000 euros mensuels ? Moi oui, et je ne dois pas être le seul, il s'agit du salaire moyen du chef de l'Etat en Europe.
4/ iledereve
Or on l'entend parler de tout et de rien, mais là, pour le coup, il brille par son absence... Un crise, ça se règle, on négocie, on avance des hypothèses, on écoute et on répond. Là, y'a rien
Faux, l'Elysée a annoncé que le Président recevrait des parlementaires de l'Outre-mer cette semaine. Encore faux, Yves Jégo a négocié tant et plus sur place. Maintenant, il ne faut peut-être pas accorder le crédit que tu accordes au LKP et aux dires de son Président.
5/ iledereve
mais qu'est-ce qu'il a proposé??? Comment se fait-il que les industries du pétrole gagnent autant de bénéfice et ne fassent pas baisser les prix à la pompe surtout dans le DOM-TOM??? 1, 40€ le litre alors que le baril est à 35$/40$ le baril, c'est inadmissible...
lemonde.fr, lefigaro.fr, liberation.fr etc... si tu ne veux pas financer d'abonnement presse, elle est au moins disponible gratuitement sur le net. Yves JEGO a commandé depuis quelques semaines un rapport sur la SARA (société anonyme de raffinerie des Antilles). Il dispose à ce jour d'un pré-rapport ce qui lui a permis d'annoncer la semaine dernière qu'il était possible de que l'Etat porte plainte contre la SARA. Qu'est-ce qu'il a proposé ? Eh bien les négociations ont porté sur 132 Points, dont 131 ont abouti. Le dernier portant sur la question de l'augmentation du salaire pour les bas salaires, et donc pas du ressort de l'Etat. L'Etat qui fait déjà un effort sur le RSA localement en l'avançant dès cette année.
6/ iledereve
Ben si tu trouves que les aides apportées par Yves JEGO en passant plus d'heures dans les avions qu'à la table des négociations
Yves Jego a quitté Paris le 31 janvier 19h, est arrivé à PTP qu'il a quitté le 8 février. Il a repris l'avion à Paris le 10 février à au soir pour PTP. Il est arrivé à FDF le 19 et est rentré à Paris le 20. Total des jours sur place : 11. Contre 32 heures de vol. Excuse-moi... mais une nouvelle fois ta remarque apparaît infondée.
7/ viadi
Le hic est que ce conflit semble être bien instrumentalisé par les indépendantistes sur place, et l'extrême gauche française mettant de l'huile sur le feu, alors que les revendications sont bien légitimes !
L'analyse est la bonne. Les métropolitains semblent accorder un crédit trop important à Domota (Président LKP) qui instrumentalise le débat.
8/ delanotre
Comme toute la classe politique française (de droite à gauche) il a une carte Club 2000 et son ATTN est VIPOFF
Je crois que certains, en fonction, disposent d'un ATTN "RF" ? Cette mention RF serait inscrite sur la PIL, quelqu'un peut confirmer peut-être ?
9/ Question des banques et garantie par l'Etat. Clé d'actu n° 53 (http://www.porte-parole.gouv.fr/...crise-financiere.pdf)
LE CONTRIBUABLE VA-T-IL PAYER POUR CE PLAN ? Non. Aujourd’hui, les marchés ne font plus confiance aux banques, mais ils savent que les Etats pourront rembourser et leur accordent facilement des crédits. L’Etat lèvera donc les fonds nécessaires sur les marchés en y apportant sa crédibilité. Ensuite, l’Etat va prêter plus cher qu’il n’emprunte lui-même : la société de financement des banques va dégager des bénéfices. Quant aux investissements en capital, il faut se souvenir d’Alstom : l’Etat a mis 700 millions d’€ pour sauver l’entreprise, mais il a réalisé une plus-value de 1, 2 Mds d’€ ! Les 360 Mds d’€ de ce plan ne sont en aucun cas des dépenses budgétaires payées par les impôts des contribuables. Ces sommes sont des garanties qui sont octroyées sans occasionner de dépense, comme lorsqu’on demande à ses parents de se porter caution pour un prêt. Une dépense interviendrait seulement si une banque faisait faillite et nous mettons tout en oeuvre pour que cela n’arrive pas. En revanche, ces garanties sont facturées, l’Etat offre une prestation commerciale habituellement offerte par les marchés qui aujourd’hui ne fonctionnent plus. Cette activité est donc rentable !
4/ iledereve
Or on l'entend parler de tout et de rien, mais là, pour le coup, il brille par son absence... Un crise, ça se règle, on négocie, on avance des hypothèses, on écoute et on répond. Là, y'a rien
Faux, l'Elysée a annoncé que le Président recevrait des parlementaires de l'Outre-mer cette semaine. Encore faux, Yves Jégo a négocié tant et plus sur place. Maintenant, il ne faut peut-être pas accorder le crédit que tu accordes au LKP et aux dires de son Président.
5/ iledereve
mais qu'est-ce qu'il a proposé??? Comment se fait-il que les industries du pétrole gagnent autant de bénéfice et ne fassent pas baisser les prix à la pompe surtout dans le DOM-TOM??? 1, 40€ le litre alors que le baril est à 35$/40$ le baril, c'est inadmissible...
lemonde.fr, lefigaro.fr, liberation.fr etc... si tu ne veux pas financer d'abonnement presse, elle est au moins disponible gratuitement sur le net. Yves JEGO a commandé depuis quelques semaines un rapport sur la SARA (société anonyme de raffinerie des Antilles). Il dispose à ce jour d'un pré-rapport ce qui lui a permis d'annoncer la semaine dernière qu'il était possible de que l'Etat porte plainte contre la SARA. Qu'est-ce qu'il a proposé ? Eh bien les négociations ont porté sur 132 Points, dont 131 ont abouti. Le dernier portant sur la question de l'augmentation du salaire pour les bas salaires, et donc pas du ressort de l'Etat. L'Etat qui fait déjà un effort sur le RSA localement en l'avançant dès cette année.
6/ iledereve
Ben si tu trouves que les aides apportées par Yves JEGO en passant plus d'heures dans les avions qu'à la table des négociations
Yves Jego a quitté Paris le 31 janvier 19h, est arrivé à PTP qu'il a quitté le 8 février. Il a repris l'avion à Paris le 10 février à au soir pour PTP. Il est arrivé à FDF le 19 et est rentré à Paris le 20. Total des jours sur place : 11. Contre 32 heures de vol. Excuse-moi... mais une nouvelle fois ta remarque apparaît infondée.
7/ viadi
Le hic est que ce conflit semble être bien instrumentalisé par les indépendantistes sur place, et l'extrême gauche française mettant de l'huile sur le feu, alors que les revendications sont bien légitimes !
L'analyse est la bonne. Les métropolitains semblent accorder un crédit trop important à Domota (Président LKP) qui instrumentalise le débat.
8/ delanotre
Comme toute la classe politique française (de droite à gauche) il a une carte Club 2000 et son ATTN est VIPOFF
Je crois que certains, en fonction, disposent d'un ATTN "RF" ? Cette mention RF serait inscrite sur la PIL, quelqu'un peut confirmer peut-être ?
9/ Question des banques et garantie par l'Etat. Clé d'actu n° 53 (http://www.porte-parole.gouv.fr/...crise-financiere.pdf)
LE CONTRIBUABLE VA-T-IL PAYER POUR CE PLAN ? Non. Aujourd’hui, les marchés ne font plus confiance aux banques, mais ils savent que les Etats pourront rembourser et leur accordent facilement des crédits. L’Etat lèvera donc les fonds nécessaires sur les marchés en y apportant sa crédibilité. Ensuite, l’Etat va prêter plus cher qu’il n’emprunte lui-même : la société de financement des banques va dégager des bénéfices. Quant aux investissements en capital, il faut se souvenir d’Alstom : l’Etat a mis 700 millions d’€ pour sauver l’entreprise, mais il a réalisé une plus-value de 1, 2 Mds d’€ ! Les 360 Mds d’€ de ce plan ne sont en aucun cas des dépenses budgétaires payées par les impôts des contribuables. Ces sommes sont des garanties qui sont octroyées sans occasionner de dépense, comme lorsqu’on demande à ses parents de se porter caution pour un prêt. Une dépense interviendrait seulement si une banque faisait faillite et nous mettons tout en oeuvre pour que cela n’arrive pas. En revanche, ces garanties sont facturées, l’Etat offre une prestation commerciale habituellement offerte par les marchés qui aujourd’hui ne fonctionnent plus. Cette activité est donc rentable !
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
on est sur un forum voyage et plus précisement Cies aeriennes alors peut être recenter les choses sur ce/ses sujets car ça commence a me gonfler
La polemique politicienne oui j'ai rien contre mais ailleurs
PS le sujet concerne la fermeture/ouverture de l'aeroport PTP
La polemique politicienne oui j'ai rien contre mais ailleurs
PS le sujet concerne la fermeture/ouverture de l'aeroport PTP
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
il y en a qui disent n'importe quoi sur ce forum.
Connaissez vous au moins la GUADELOUPE et ses problèmes, Sarkozy n'a pas grand chose à voir, il y a des lois qui ne sont pas respecter pourquoi quand tu n'est pas fonctionnaire tu ne peux pas avoir un salaire décent. En France il y le smic et en Guadeloupe aussi evidemment mais plein de patron vous paient en dessous du minimum legal ou tres souvent ne vous déclare pas.
Les patrons se font de l'argent sur le dos de la population.
Ce qui devient completement ridicule c'est de demander 200 € d'augmentation de salaire alors que le vrai probleme c'est de baisser les prix,
Les patrons se font de l'argent sur le dos de la population.
Ce qui devient completement ridicule c'est de demander 200 € d'augmentation de salaire alors que le vrai probleme c'est de baisser les prix,
La lutte des classes, encore et toujours...
Comme on l'a déjà dit, ça n'est pas le lieu pour exposer tes idées politiques.
La lutte des classes, encore et toujours...
Comme on l'a déjà dit, ça n'est pas le lieu pour exposer tes idées politiques.
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It’s clear that, despite a few details, these changes are very positive for upholding passenger rights. It remains to be seen whether this text will be definitively adopted on July 7, 2026, as is very likely, and, more importantly, whether IATA will encourage airlines to loyally respect these new rules or persist in their old habits.
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I booked with Turkish Airlines (through an online agency) for a trip to South Korea.
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Loïc
A pretty serious issue has come up in the past few weeks for traveling to Tanzania.
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Basically, all airlines have been blacklisted because they don’t meet European safety standards. They’re banned from flying in Europe but continue operating in Tanzania. The main issue is that travel agencies’ civil liability no longer applies to blacklisted airlines. So we can’t allow clients to fly with these carriers. Of course, there’s huge pressure from European agencies, which are forced to disrupt their plans or even cancel trips because of this. Personally, I’ve got a trip planned for February 2026 to the southern parks in Tanzania, so I’ll be keeping an eye on how this develops. Do any of you have updates? Thanks!
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Four months ago, I was in Kenya with a flight booked through Qatar Airways... I can’t even imagine how I’d react if I were stuck there now. ??
Wishing all these travelers courage, patience, and success in making it back home.
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No prices have been announced so far, but hopefully we’ll find direct flights from GIG at a more interesting fare than AF or Latam…
Hello,
I’m really surprised because in TUI’s new tour packages, the airlines they’re using are of low quality. Before, they used to prioritize major airlines, but now it’s small airlines from small countries—companies with terrible ratings and borderline safety concerns. I even just noticed this note for a Tanzania trip: "We inform you that the domestic flight segment in Tanzania included in your trip is operated by an airline listed on the European Union’s list of air carriers subject to an operating ban within the European Union. This ban only applies to European Union airspace, meaning this airline is not permitted to take off, land, or fly over European airspace. However, this airline is authorized to operate in Tanzania."
This means they’re using airlines on the blacklist!! It’s pretty worrying for safety. What do you all think?
I’m really surprised because in TUI’s new tour packages, the airlines they’re using are of low quality. Before, they used to prioritize major airlines, but now it’s small airlines from small countries—companies with terrible ratings and borderline safety concerns. I even just noticed this note for a Tanzania trip: "We inform you that the domestic flight segment in Tanzania included in your trip is operated by an airline listed on the European Union’s list of air carriers subject to an operating ban within the European Union. This ban only applies to European Union airspace, meaning this airline is not permitted to take off, land, or fly over European airspace. However, this airline is authorized to operate in Tanzania."
This means they’re using airlines on the blacklist!! It’s pretty worrying for safety. What do you all think?
Hello,
We’re planning a cruise to the UAE/QATAR/OMAN starting from DUBAI, with flights departing from Paris CDG. Which airlines would you recommend for round-trip flights, with or without a layover? We need assistance for check-in and boarding/disembarking (my husband is a mobility-impaired traveler who uses a cane and/or a walker). We’ve done a cruise return from Dubai to Paris CDG before in 2016, with a layover in Istanbul, but we booked the transfer and return flight with COSTA. For our current plan, it would be with Celestyal, which doesn’t offer round-trip flights from Paris to Dubai. Should we book very far in advance, or is a few months before departure enough (4/6 months)? We’re thinking of arriving the day before the ship departs, so we’d need to stay overnight in Dubai—either on the way there or for the return flight, depending on the flight schedules. Could you recommend a hotel not too far from the airport, and how to get to the port from the airport?
Thanks so much for your advice. Have a great Sunday! Mum49
We’re planning a cruise to the UAE/QATAR/OMAN starting from DUBAI, with flights departing from Paris CDG. Which airlines would you recommend for round-trip flights, with or without a layover? We need assistance for check-in and boarding/disembarking (my husband is a mobility-impaired traveler who uses a cane and/or a walker). We’ve done a cruise return from Dubai to Paris CDG before in 2016, with a layover in Istanbul, but we booked the transfer and return flight with COSTA. For our current plan, it would be with Celestyal, which doesn’t offer round-trip flights from Paris to Dubai. Should we book very far in advance, or is a few months before departure enough (4/6 months)? We’re thinking of arriving the day before the ship departs, so we’d need to stay overnight in Dubai—either on the way there or for the return flight, depending on the flight schedules. Could you recommend a hotel not too far from the airport, and how to get to the port from the airport?
Thanks so much for your advice. Have a great Sunday! Mum49
Hi,
It's all in the title—this means nothing's getting through, so no more oil.
In Europe, kerosene reserves are still good, but by the end of April, flights will have to be reduced.
European airports fear running out of kerosene if the Strait of Hormuz isn’t reopened within three weeks
Bluff or not? Stay tuned....
Bluff or not? Stay tuned....
Hi everyone,
I’m reaching out to ask for your help with a bit of a problem:
I booked a flight to Berlin from Orly for April 15th—it’s coming up fast. But I just made an annoying discovery: my passport expired two weeks ago.
From what I understand, in principle, I can still travel within the Schengen Zone with an expired passport as long as it’s been less than five years. However, EasyJet’s website explicitly requires a valid ID (and just to add to the fun, my national ID card has been expired for a while now).
So, I’d love to know: how strict are EasyJet’s ID checks? Do they enforce validity rules strictly and refuse boarding if the ID isn’t valid? Or is it more of a luck-of-the-draw situation?
Basically, should I just write off this trip now, or should I still try my luck—maybe with a little tearful plea? Has anyone here had a similar experience? I can’t be the only one, right!
I’m reaching out to ask for your help with a bit of a problem:
I booked a flight to Berlin from Orly for April 15th—it’s coming up fast. But I just made an annoying discovery: my passport expired two weeks ago.
From what I understand, in principle, I can still travel within the Schengen Zone with an expired passport as long as it’s been less than five years. However, EasyJet’s website explicitly requires a valid ID (and just to add to the fun, my national ID card has been expired for a while now).
So, I’d love to know: how strict are EasyJet’s ID checks? Do they enforce validity rules strictly and refuse boarding if the ID isn’t valid? Or is it more of a luck-of-the-draw situation?
Basically, should I just write off this trip now, or should I still try my luck—maybe with a little tearful plea? Has anyone here had a similar experience? I can’t be the only one, right!
Hi there!
Has anyone taken the direct flight from CDG to Las Vegas with Air France?
Looking forward to your feedback!
Hey everyone,
I booked a flight with RyanAir for next month, with the priority+ option and two cabin bags. So I can take a 10 kg bag with dimensions 55x40x20 in the cabin (plus another smaller one). The problem is that the smallest suitcase I have (which is supposed to be designed specifically for cabin size standards, according to the manual) has the following dimensions: 55x37x21, so it's just 1 cm over (wheels included) on one of the measurements.
I wasn’t too worried at first, but I’ve read dozens of stories about people’s misadventures and the hassles they’ve had with RyanAir.
Since I don’t want my suitcase to end up in the hold (that would waste time picking it up when I’m already arriving late and need to get to the city center), nor do I want to pay an extra fee (apparently 50 €) for the outbound and return flights for just 1 centimeter—especially since I paid for the "priority+" option and I’m not exactly rolling in money—I’d love some advice.
Have any of you been in the same situation? I’ve read that with this airline, they check bags in templates (testing them in different positions) and are completely uncompromising. I tried contacting customer service, who, as luck would have it, "don’t handle this kind of request," and a rep I spoke to wasn’t much help.
I know it’s a low-cost airline, and I don’t expect luxury or even kindness, but come on—just 1 cm on a short flight with the + option... I’m a bit overwhelmed by everything I’ve read...
Just to clarify, since I’m going for 8 days, I can’t just take one bag for my stuff. I’ve done that for shorter trips before, and it was a hassle—I even had to buy an extra bag for the return trip... Luckily, the inspector was nice about it!
Thanks so much! I’m a newbie when it comes to air travel :) Hope I posted this in the right section!
I booked a flight with RyanAir for next month, with the priority+ option and two cabin bags. So I can take a 10 kg bag with dimensions 55x40x20 in the cabin (plus another smaller one). The problem is that the smallest suitcase I have (which is supposed to be designed specifically for cabin size standards, according to the manual) has the following dimensions: 55x37x21, so it's just 1 cm over (wheels included) on one of the measurements.
I wasn’t too worried at first, but I’ve read dozens of stories about people’s misadventures and the hassles they’ve had with RyanAir.
Since I don’t want my suitcase to end up in the hold (that would waste time picking it up when I’m already arriving late and need to get to the city center), nor do I want to pay an extra fee (apparently 50 €) for the outbound and return flights for just 1 centimeter—especially since I paid for the "priority+" option and I’m not exactly rolling in money—I’d love some advice.
Have any of you been in the same situation? I’ve read that with this airline, they check bags in templates (testing them in different positions) and are completely uncompromising. I tried contacting customer service, who, as luck would have it, "don’t handle this kind of request," and a rep I spoke to wasn’t much help.
I know it’s a low-cost airline, and I don’t expect luxury or even kindness, but come on—just 1 cm on a short flight with the + option... I’m a bit overwhelmed by everything I’ve read...
Just to clarify, since I’m going for 8 days, I can’t just take one bag for my stuff. I’ve done that for shorter trips before, and it was a hassle—I even had to buy an extra bag for the return trip... Luckily, the inspector was nice about it!
Thanks so much! I’m a newbie when it comes to air travel :) Hope I posted this in the right section!
Hi there,
When I run searches on Skyscanner, I see that only Lufthansa has flights to Seoul with just one stop. Air France doesn’t show up, even though I thought the French airline served Seoul? I can’t even log into the Air France website—it keeps glitching.
When I run searches on Skyscanner, I see that only Lufthansa has flights to Seoul with just one stop. Air France doesn’t show up, even though I thought the French airline served Seoul? I can’t even log into the Air France website—it keeps glitching.
Hi there,
I’d like to return to Uzbekistan next April for 10 days with my husband to visit our son who lives there. We went last July and I bought the flight tickets (direct flight from Paris on Uzbekistan Airways) about 2 months in advance at very reasonable prices. I’ve been checking for late April for a few weeks now, and the tickets are much more expensive and keep rising. I can’t figure out if the prices are going up because it’s still a bit too early to buy and they’ll likely drop if the planes aren’t full, or if it’s because the period is actually in high demand. For reference, last year I bought my son’s ticket on May 30th for a departure on June 3rd—just 3 days later—at a very low price that didn’t budge at all.
Just in case, does anyone know the pricing trends for this airline and can advise me? Should I wait or not?
Thanks, and feel free to ask if you need any tips about the country!
My wife bought a flight ticket (Lucky Air) under her Thai maiden name and was issued a Chinese visa on her new Thai passport but with her French married name (due to administrative requirements). She was denied boarding by the airline in Bangkok for the flight to Kunming—resulting in the loss of our round-trip flight tickets, including mine since we were traveling together—despite presenting both passports at the airline counter at the same time.
Hi there.
I’m planning a trip to Chile, and the fares from the Colombian airline Avianca are really appealing.
Way cheaper than Air France, for example.
That said, the reviews I’ve seen online aren’t great.
What do you think of this airline?
Have any of you taken long-haul flights with Avianca?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Eric
Hi there,
This might be a silly question, but I’m traveling to Japan from CDG and returning via Osaka with EVA Air, and I have a pretty bulky aluminum knee brace. It’s this model: https://enovis-medtech.eu/fr_FR/OA-FullForce-74358.html
Has anyone had any experience with airport security checks or flying with one of these?
Thanks in advance! Best regards,
This might be a silly question, but I’m traveling to Japan from CDG and returning via Osaka with EVA Air, and I have a pretty bulky aluminum knee brace. It’s this model: https://enovis-medtech.eu/fr_FR/OA-FullForce-74358.html
Has anyone had any experience with airport security checks or flying with one of these?
Thanks in advance! Best regards,
Hi there,
I can't seem to find flights between the Cape Verde islands on the airline's website. No matter the date or route, I always get the same response: "no flights on this date." See the photo. Would anyone have an explanation? Surely not all flights are fully booked in July?
Best, Thierry
I can't seem to find flights between the Cape Verde islands on the airline's website. No matter the date or route, I always get the same response: "no flights on this date." See the photo. Would anyone have an explanation? Surely not all flights are fully booked in July?
Best, Thierry





