Avec mon ami, nous partons 1 mois au Laos très prochainement pour une durée d'un mois entre le 6 mars et le 10 avril 2016.
Nous avons plusieurs questions mais avant voici les éléments de notre projet de voyage:
- souhait de découverte ville architecture + nature paysage randonnées ) + détente.
- souhait d'en découvrir un maximum sans changer tous les jours, nous voulons prendre le temps de découvrir tranquillement, observer la vie quotidienne des locaux, savourer, goûter l'atmosphère
- nous n'aimons pas la foule, aimons le calme, le sentiment d'être peu nombreux
-nous ne voulons pas faire de vols internes
questions:
1) souhait de faire le nord et le sud en sachant que finir par le sud nous semble plus sympa (finir sur la détente :-)) mais par où arriver? Vientiane ou houeisei via chiang kong? quel est le moins long, le moins galère, le moins cher? et comment faire pour aller de banngkok à houesei?
en sachant que nous arriverons par un vol paris bangkok puis le train ou bus en fonction
pour le sud, on repartira à bangkok via pakse et via ubon ratchatani
2) voici le 1er itinéraire envisagé:
- houeisei LP via descente en bateau mekong avec escale à paksé
- LP 4 jours? suffisant, trop?
- Nong Khiam + Muang ngoi neua (les 2 nécessaires ou faut-il choisir? si oui lequel?)
- Louang namtha via oudemxai: existe -t-il trajet direct de nong khiam à louang namtha?
- LP de nouveau mais juste en transit, je ne vois pas si je peux me faire un autre début d'itinéraire pour éviter de repasser à LP,
- Vang vieng
- Vientiane en transit 1 ou 2 jours max
- savannakhet pour rando dans ZNP??? hésitations possible en termes de temps ? et est-ce que ça vaut le coup?
- paksé + plateau des bolovens: mais je n'ai pas de permis moto et suis seule à conduire et un peu trouillarde, est-ce possible de réellement voir le plateau des bolovens ou une partie sans moto?
- champasak et ile don daeng
- les 4 000
- retour paksé pour départ bangkok
cet itinéraire est-il réalisable en prenant son temps ou est-ce trop chargé?
et si oui qu'est-ce qu'enlever?
si conseil pour gagner du temps sur trajet, suis preneuse
je vous remercie d'avance de vos conseils et avis sachant notre départ pour dans 3 semaines même si aucun billet d'avion encore achetés.
Bonjour.
Vous avez envie de découvrir le nord Laos et vous avez bien raison. Pour moi c'est clairement la région la plus intéressante (paysages, treks, ethnies ...). Puisque vous allez à Luang Namtha, je vous conseille de pousser jusqu'à Muang Sing (à 2h de route). Tout y est mieux et vous y trouverez beaucoup moins de touristes (ce que vous souhaitez) et notamment un marché extra.
http://surlarouteasiatique.blogspot.fr/search/label/Laos%20-%20Muang%20Sing%20et%20environs
Pour entrer le Laos par le Nord, l'accès le plus aisé est évidemment l'avion Bangkok -> Chiang Rai. Pour ma part, j'avais pris mon temps en Thaïlande et j'avais par exemple visité en chemin les sites archéologiques de Khamphaeng Phet, Sukhothaï, Si Satchanalai.
Sauf à ce que la descente du Mékong soit incontournable pour vous, voici l'itinéraire que j'avais suivi en décembre 2012 au Nord Laos avant Luang Prabang.
Houay Xai -> Luang Nam Tha -> Oudomxai -> Muang Khua. Descente en bateau-pirogue de la Nam Ou -> Muang Ngoi Neua -> Nong Khiaw. J'avais poursuivi la descente de la Nam Ou jusqu'à Luang Prabang (fin sur le Mékong), mais un barrage a été mis en service en aval de Nong Khiaw depuis mon passage, et ce n'est sans doute plus possible. Les paysages qui m'avaient le plus intéressé se trouvaient en amont et en aval de Muang Ngoi Neua, et légèrement en aval de Nong Khiaw.
Entre Pakse et Bangkok, vous pouvez visiter de beaux sites khmers, par ex. Sikhoraphum (très proche de la grand-route), et surtout les temples de Phimai et de Phanom Rung (à l'écart de la grand-route, mais superbes).
S'exposer à l'Etranger lointain amène à mieux connaître et comprendre sa propre Culture.
Premièrement, quel bon choix de pays!!!! On a fait le Laos sur deux moi en 2013 et c'est vraiment notre voyage magique en Asie du Sud-Est.
Votre itinéraire me semble viable, mais faite attention à cette période les descentes en bateau sont souvent difficiles. On a dûe sortir du bateau et marcher un peu sur le trajet entre Nong Khiaw et Luang Prabang. Tout de même amusant;) www.2passeports2sacados.com/...w-luang-prabang....
Je comprend trop le trajet Huay Xai - Luang Prabang pour revenir dans le Nord...Je vous recommande Houay Xai - Luang Nam Tha et Nong Khiaw pour ensuite descendre vers Luang Prabang. www.2passeports2sacados.com/...uthentique-laos....
Savanahket?...J'irais plutôt à Thakhek pour un trek dans le réserve de Phu Hin Bun. Faite attention à l'offre du Tourisme Center qui offre un service inégal par rapport à ses guides. Renseignez vous bien sur les connaissances du guides fournis ou allez voir chez Green Discovery. www.2passeports2sacados.com/...o-pop-star-jour....
Ensuite, Paksé est une bonne base pour la boucle du plateau des Bolovens. Allez voir Miss Noy et son Belge pour votre scooter. Sans contredit le meilleur endroit pour la location au Laos.)
Champasak vaut le détour et que dire de l'île de Don Daeng...Un paradis. Nous sommes arrivé sur l'île sans réservation et on a trouvé une famille sur place pour nous héberger.
Pour les îles, Don khone ou Don Det sont parfaites. On a opté pour la première.
Je vous invite à faire un tour sur notre blog dans la section Laos. On est en retard sur le réçit, mais vous y trouverez sûrement des infos. www.2passeports2sacados.com/search/label/Laos
j'ai un doute sur le fait d'aller dans le nord au mois de mars. j'ai lu qu'il y avait des brulis et qu'il n'était pas conseillé d'aller dans le nord. qu'en pensez-vous?
Pour le plateau des boloven, le souci c'est que je n'ai pas de permis moto et j'ai le vertige. or la région semble montagneuse. est-il possible de visiter le plateau des bolovens sans scooter ou moto?
Les brulis c'est pas mal partout en région durant cette période...c'est certain que vous partez pas dans la saison parfaite, mais vous allez quand même adorer le pays j'en suis sûr!!!
Pour le plateau, tout est possible! C'est dommage que vous ne pouviez pas faire de scooter...ça aide aux rencontres!
J1 arrivée à bangkok, bus de nuit pour chiang khong
J2 traversée du poste frontiére chiang khong houeisei: faut-il prendre un bus et combien de temps faut-il compter en sachant que nous avons déjà nos visas?
+ bus d'houesei à luang namtha en début d'aprém ou soir en fonction de l'heure à laquelle on va chopper le bus à houeisei
J3-4-5 Luang namtha
J6 déplacement jusque nong khiaw et munag ngoi neua
J7-8-9-10 nong khiaw et muang ngoi neua: est-ce que ça vaut le coup de faire les 2 ou vaut-il meiux choisir
J11 transfert jusqu'à luang prabang
J12-13-14-15 luang prabang faut-il réservcer l'hébergement à l'avance?
J16 transfert jusqu'à vang vieng puis bus de nuit vang vieng-paksé: y'a t-il des dangers à prendre des bus de nuit?
J17 arrivée paksé
J18-19-20 alentours paksé plateau des bolovens
J21-J22-J23-J24 champassak et alentours: est- il possible de séjourner à champassak à la plce de paksé?
J25 départ pour les 4000
J25-26-27 les 4000 vaut il mieux faire 1 seule île ou changer
J28 départ pour paksé puis bus pour bangkok
J29 départ pour paris
Bonjour,
arrivé à chiang khong vous verrez un énorme panneau immigration, soit vous demandez à votre chauffeur de bus de vous laissez la et ensuite vous prenez un tuk tuk pour 20 bath ou soit vous vous faites avoir et aller jusqu'au terminus du bus et la dans le meilleur des cas ça vous reviendra à 40 bath par personne en tuk tuk.
Le passage de frontière s'effectue par une navette (20 bath) obligatoire qui passe sur un pont tout neuf, n'oubliez pas d'avoir vos 30$, sinon on vous vous ferez arnaquer pour faire du change sur place.
Ensuite une fois la frontière laos passé, 25 000 kips par personne pour rejoindre le terminal de bus de Houesay (keochampa).
Le passage prend une bonne heure si tout fonctionne bien.
Pour rejoindre Louang namtha ils sont bien coordonnés vous aurez suffisamment de temps pour enchaîner. Le bus ne par jamais à l'heure se sera minimum 30 minutes de plus. (Ils doivent faire le plein, mettre une roue de secours... etc). Les départs sont à 9H 10H 12H30 16H pour 60 000kips.
Muang Ngoi ne mérite pas de si attarder sauf si vous souhaitez faire un trek.
Pour le bus de nuit que se soit jour ou nuit il ne sont pas totalement securit mais c'est le Laos, c'est comme ça. (Eviter les places du fond elles sont en général catastrophiques).
Oui vous avez la possibilité de séjourner au village juste avant le site de Champassak. 5 ou 6 guesthouse. (Si vous y allez en bus ils vous déposeront devant).
Pour les 4000 îles, le parcours classique est de séjourner soit sur don det ou don khon et de faire le tour des 2 îles en vélo. (relié par un pont).
Bonjour
Les paysages du Nord sont très beaux, cependant vous avez prévu beaucoup de journées, donc je suppose que vous allez faire des treks ?
Attention à l'enchaînement Luang Prabang --> Van Vieng --> Paksé :
1- cela me semble très long et pénible (rien que pour LP - Vientiane cela prend une journée ou une nuit...)
2 - Dommage de ne pas s'arrêter à VanVieng qui propose de magnifiques paysages en dépit de sa mauvaise réputation
3 - Dommage aussi de ne pas s'arrêter à Vientiane qui présente tout de même plusieurs possibilités... de visites de temples, de visite du Bouddha Park, de visites de marchés...
Pour Paksé et les Boloven : J'avais pour ma part préféré la boucle de Thakhek avec le village et la grotte de Kong Lor. Evidemment pour les Boloven comme pour cette boucle, la location de scooter est quand même hautement recommandée... en tous cas, 4 jours à Paksé et alentours me paraissent trop longs.
Pour les 4000 îles, le mieux est de séjourner dans l'une des 2 petites (Don Det / Don Khone). Eventuellement puisque vous avez le temps, une journée et une nuit dans la grande île (s'y balader à vélo) avant de partir vers les petites (et de s'y balader à vélo aussi).
Sur la route de Bangkok, possibilité de s'arrêter juste après la frontière à Khong Jiam (parcs naturels, confluent Mékong / rivière Moon), puis à Udon Ratchathani ; puis comme le dit Fabrice, le site du Phanom Rung est sensationnel.
heu à part les plaines de luang nam tha et muang sing ce sont QUE des montagnes...
Je parlais des environs de Muang Sing.
Et même si cela vous déplaît, je confirme que les environs de Muang Sing sont a peu près plat.
PS : je viens de consulter les réponses que vous venez de faire sur d'autres posts et j'ai compris quel est votre but sur ce forum 🤪
Je ne vais pas perdre mon temps avec une personne qui a réussi l'exploit de se faire supprimer des messages par la modération dès sa première journée sur le forum.
J'ai bien compris (en lisant les messages qui ont été supprimé) quel est votre but sur ce forum ...
effectivcement nous avons prévu bcp de jours car souhait de faire quelques treks mais aussi ca nous souhaitons prendre notre temps sans courrir, savourer l'atmosphére laotienne le calme
pour le plateau des bolovens ou thakek et environ, faut-il avoir le permis pour louer une moto. de plus n'est-ce pas dangereux quand on n'a jamais conduit de deux roues. mon inquiétude étant que je suis seule à avoir le permis et j'ai le vertige. comme le plateau des bolovens et autre ça a l'air montagneux je ne cache pas une certaine appréhension à conduire en montagne et avec un engin que je ne maitrise pas du tout
pour la thaliande vers ubon ratchatani, ça nous tentait bien de profiter pour visiter mais finalement un mois au laos avec les temps de trajet et si l'on veut profiter et non dire j'ai fait tel ou tel coin juste pour le dire, un mois ça passe vite
pour vientiane je ne sais pas si ça vaut vraiment le coup.... qu'y a t-il de plus dans ces temples par rapport aux autres comme à LP par exemple
je pense en effet que LP vv paksé c'est trop ambitieux comme enchainement, on fera sûrement une escamle
pour le sud, vous parlez du village avant champassak, lequel est-ce?
et aurit-on lke temps et est-ce que ça vaut le coup d'qaller du côté d'attapeu ou autre coin moins touristique dans le sud?
Pour le village de Champasak vous ne pourrez pas trop vous louper. Vous avez une route assez récente qui finit en cul de sac quelques km avant le site, ou alors l'ancienne route qui longe le mékong qui vous fera passer dans le village avec les guesthouses.
Si le bus vous dépose à pha pin sachez que c'est aussi le lieu qui vous permettra de traverser la rive en bateau et vous permettra aussi d'aller plus au sud sur les 4000 îles. (vous pouvez prendre un bus de l'autre côté).
Sinon beaucoup de guesthouse sont entre ce lieu de traversé et wat phu (le site de champassak). Éparpille sur 1km.
Pour le plateau des Bolovens vous n'avez pas besoin de permis... Je n'avais jamais fait de moto si vous allez chez miss noy il vous mette à disposition des semi automatiques ce qui fait que ça vous prend 2 minutes pour comprendre comment ça marche. L'ami belge vous laissera essayer la moto avant de partir. C'est pas non plus trop montagneux, il y a juste parfois de chemin en terre avec beaucoup de trous. L'ami belge fait un breffing D'1Heure pour vous expliquez ou dormir ou faire attention ou faire votre pause pipi 😉... et vous interdira d'aller boire chez intel ou intel.
Pour Vientiane ces vidéos va vous donner quelques idées de ce qu'il peut y avoir.
youtu.be/8hmcrAVMGyY
youtu.be/yKN8OHxorJA
Je vois que vous avez réalisé le parcours que l'on projette de réaliser à notre tour en novembre 2016 :
- Avion de Bangkok à Chiang Rai puis bus pour Huay Xai.
- Départ de Huay Xai pour Luang Namtha
- Luang Namtha - Muang Khua
- Muang Khua- Muang Ngoi en descendant la Nam Ou
- Muang Ngoi- Nong Khiaw
- Nong Khiaw - Luang Prabang par la route
- Luang Prabang- Vang Vieng
- Vang Vieng - Vientiane
Ma question est la suivante : ce parcours est-il réalisable en 15 jours ?
Beaucoup de personnes semblent prévoir 3 semaines pour le même parcours donc j'ai peur d'avoir été trop optimiste.
D'autant plus que nous voulions rester 3 jours à Luang Prabang...
Pas aisé pour vous répondre Karine, car vous n'indiquez pas le temps que vous comptez passer pour chaque étape.
Pour néanmoins contribuer à votre réflexion, voici ce qu'a été mon itinéraire en décembre 2012.
J1 Chiang Mai -> Chiang Saen
J2 Chiang Saen -> Triple frontière -> poste-frontière Golden Triangle -> Huayxai -> Luang Nam Tha
J3 Luang Nam Tha -> Oudomxai -> Muang Khua
J4 Muang Khua avec balade aux environs
J5 trek ethnique en villages khmou, nuit en village
J6 trek ethnique, fin de journée à Muang Khua
J7 Muang Khua -> Muang Ngoi Neua en bateau-pirogue, balade l'après-midi aux environs
J8 Muang Ngoi Neua -> Nong Khiaw -> Luang Prabang en bateau-pirogue
J9 Luang Prabang J1
J10 Luang Prabang J2
J11 Luang Prabang J3
J12 Luang Prabang -> Phonsavan
J13 exploration de la Plaine des Jarres
J14 Phonsavan -> Vang Vieng, balade aux environs
J15 balade, puis Vang Vieng -> Ventiane.
A noter que je n'ai pas fait de trek "ethnique" aux environs de Luang Nam Tha, privilégiant pour cela Muang Khua, beaucoup moins couru (avec le handicap d'une offre non "industrialisée", sans garantie sur les ethnies visitables le jour venu).
Si nécessaire, je peux préciser les temps passés pour chaque étape.
Fabrice
S'exposer à l'Etranger lointain amène à mieux connaître et comprendre sa propre Culture.
Pas aisé pour vous répondre Karine, car vous n'indiquez pas le temps que vous comptez passer pour chaque étape.
Pour néanmoins contribuer à votre réflexion, voici ce qu'a été mon itinéraire en décembre 2012.
J1 Chiang Mai -> Chiang Saen
J2 Chiang Saen -> Triple frontière -> poste-frontière Golden Triangle -> Huayxai -> Luang Nam Tha
J3 Luang Nam Tha -> Oudomxai -> Muang Khua
J4 Muang Khua avec balade aux environs
J5 trek ethnique en villages khmou, nuit en village
J6 trek ethnique, fin de journée à Muang Khua
J7 Muang Khua -> Muang Ngoi Neua en bateau-pirogue, balade l'après-midi aux environs
J8 Muang Ngoi Neua -> Nong Khiaw -> Luang Prabang en bateau-pirogue
J9 Luang Prabang J1
J10 Luang Prabang J2
J11 Luang Prabang J3
J12 Luang Prabang -> Phonsavan
J13 exploration de la Plaine des Jarres
J14 Phonsavan -> Vang Vieng, balade aux environs
J15 balade, puis Vang Vieng -> Ventiane.
A noter que je n'ai pas fait de trek "ethnique" aux environs de Luang Nam Tha, privilégiant pour cela Muang Khua, beaucoup moins couru (avec le handicap d'une offre non "industrialisée", sans garantie sur les ethnies visitables le jour venu).
Si nécessaire, je peux préciser les temps passés pour chaque étape.
Fabrice
Merci Fabrice pour cette réponse détaillée.
Effectivement, je réalise après coup que je n'ai pas mentionné les durées des étapes. J'ai donc posté un nouveau message sur le forum, un peu plus détaillé.
Toutefois votre réponse confirme mon impression sur mon parcours un peu chargé.
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Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
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In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips:
Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred.
PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront).
Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight)
· Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok)
· Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok)
· Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x")
· Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok)
· Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok)
· Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok)
· Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling.
For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees?
We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo.
Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Hi! I’m planning a 15-day trip to Malaysia. The idea is to visit KL for 2 or 3 days, then Borneo, and I’m wondering what to do with the rest of the time. I’d like to finish with the Perhentian Islands... What do you think? Any tips or advice would be great—I’d really appreciate it!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...