Nous partons 3 semaines en cyclocamping au Kirghizstan fin juillet. Nous avons idée de faire une boucle dans le sens Bishkek - Jalal Abad - Song Köl - Karakol - Bishkek Cela veut dire que nous commençons par l'ascension du col Tör Ashuu à 3500 m. Apparemment, ça monte fort : une centaine de km dans la vallée de Bishkek à Kara-Balta puis après ça grimpe. Pensez vous que c'est réalisable de commencer par ce col, "à la descente de l'avion" (enfin 3 jours après) ? Comment est l'ascension (indication des kilométrages, pentes ?) Y'a t il des haltes, villages ou autres pendant l'ascension du col ? Est il possible de bivouaquer sur le bord de la route ? Merci
Passage à vélo des cols sur route Bishkek-Jalal Abad (Kirghizistan)
by Aero
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Nous partons 3 semaines en cyclocamping au Kirghizstan fin juillet. Nous avons idée de faire une boucle dans le sens Bishkek - Jalal Abad - Song Köl - Karakol - Bishkek Cela veut dire que nous commençons par l'ascension du col Tör Ashuu à 3500 m. Apparemment, ça monte fort : une centaine de km dans la vallée de Bishkek à Kara-Balta puis après ça grimpe. Pensez vous que c'est réalisable de commencer par ce col, "à la descente de l'avion" (enfin 3 jours après) ? Comment est l'ascension (indication des kilométrages, pentes ?) Y'a t il des haltes, villages ou autres pendant l'ascension du col ? Est il possible de bivouaquer sur le bord de la route ? Merci
Nous partons 3 semaines en cyclocamping au Kirghizstan fin juillet. Nous avons idée de faire une boucle dans le sens Bishkek - Jalal Abad - Song Köl - Karakol - Bishkek Cela veut dire que nous commençons par l'ascension du col Tör Ashuu à 3500 m. Apparemment, ça monte fort : une centaine de km dans la vallée de Bishkek à Kara-Balta puis après ça grimpe. Pensez vous que c'est réalisable de commencer par ce col, "à la descente de l'avion" (enfin 3 jours après) ? Comment est l'ascension (indication des kilométrages, pentes ?) Y'a t il des haltes, villages ou autres pendant l'ascension du col ? Est il possible de bivouaquer sur le bord de la route ? Merci
Aero
Salut, tout d'abord il faut aller jusqu'à Kara Balta, sur la route principale, c'est assez dangereux et les voitures sont assez rapides. N'oublions pas qu'acheter ou passer le permis de conduire coûte le même prix. 60km de plat, ensuite la route tourne vers le sud et monte légèrement sur environ 20 km, ensuite, il y a un poste pour le paiement du tunnel, puis encore 20 km tranquille, puis le début de la montée environ 30km. Je ne sais pas comment vous allez traverser le tunnel, mais oubliez le col qui est fermé. Depuis le tunnel, c'est ensuite une route de caillous d'un côté et plus rien de l'autre. Pour traverser le tunnel, vaut mieux s'arranger avec un chauffeur de camion, pour vous le faire traverser. De l'autre côté, le premier guesthouse que vous verrez est une nouvelle station de ski. Vous pouvez peut-être vous ravitailler ou dormir au chaud. Puis descente jusque dans la vallée de Sussamyr. Là, je vous conseille plutôt de descendre dans le canyon de la Kekemeren et rejoindre Toktogul via Aral et Tuluk, pour éviter la route principale. En suivant la Kekemeren, vous allez trouver plein de petit villages : Sussamyr avec bazar aux animaux, Kojomkul avec musée du héros qui levait des rochers jusqu'à 690 kg, Kyzyl Oi CBT organise des trekks, Aral, Kyzyl Korgon, Tuluk, lac Toktogul. Sinon vous prenez la route de Sussamyr et il n'y a rien jusqu'à Toktogul (sauf quelques yourte-koumys et des chaikhanas dans la descente du canyon de Chichkhan. Ensuite de l'autre côté du lac, il devrait y avoir une route qui vous emmène directement vers Arslanbob, peut-être de terre, mais je préférerais à la route principale. N'oubliez pas que jusqu'à Och, c'est la route la plus importante de Kirghizie, qui relie le Nord au Sud. Je pense que le détour à Och vaut la peine.
Pour les questions pratiques, je pense que la montée à vélo est le meilleur moyen pour se faire à l'altitude. Vous pouvez bivouaquer n'importe où. Les kilomètres sont indiqués sur la route principale, la pente est toujours indiquée à 12%.
Pour les questions pratiques, je pense que la montée à vélo est le meilleur moyen pour se faire à l'altitude. Vous pouvez bivouaquer n'importe où. Les kilomètres sont indiqués sur la route principale, la pente est toujours indiquée à 12%.
Peace & ride
Merci pour tes infos précises Changgulu.
ça a l'air tout à fait faisable, on va passer par là. Et merci pour ta suggestion d'itinéraires. Pour l'instant on s'est fixé nos grandes directions, on verra sur place plus précisément. Och on hésite pas mal, c'est assez excentré. On lit souvent que c'est une ville intéressante mais c'est un peu excentré.
Aero
nous rentrons d'un mois au kirgisthan (à vélo) et je te conseille de bifurquer et prendre la vallée de sumsamyr, pour rejoindre le lac issykul, car la route jusqu'à jallabad est une route camion et à voiture il ya mieux à faire, et pour camper demande toujours au habitants ou à côté des yourtes tu te fera invité à coup sûr, si tu veux plus de renseignements n'hésite pas.
Salut Trailer,
C'est intéressant ce que tu dis. nous on avait prévu d'aller à Jalal Abad parce que la route Jalal Abad Song köl par Kazarman et Jangy-Talap avait l'air formidable. Mais on peut arriver à Song Köl par le Nord, en passant par la vallée de Sumsamyr. C'est ce que tu as fait ? Comment c'est par là ? Si tu peux me donner quelques indications de votre itinéraire pour voir ce qu'il est possible de faire en 3 semaines, c'est super. A bientôt ;-)
C'est intéressant ce que tu dis. nous on avait prévu d'aller à Jalal Abad parce que la route Jalal Abad Song köl par Kazarman et Jangy-Talap avait l'air formidable. Mais on peut arriver à Song Köl par le Nord, en passant par la vallée de Sumsamyr. C'est ce que tu as fait ? Comment c'est par là ? Si tu peux me donner quelques indications de votre itinéraire pour voir ce qu'il est possible de faire en 3 semaines, c'est super. A bientôt ;-)
Aero
voilà ce que nous avons fait en un mois; Almaty (KZT), puis Karakol par le Nord et le Canyon de Charyn, ensuite nous avons longés le" lac Issykul jusqu'à Balichy puis la vallée de Sumsamir, puis descente jusqu'à Toktogul, puis camion (Kamaz) jusqu'à Och (attention si tu n'as pas le visa OUZBEK obliger de faire un grand détour pour rejoindre la ville, ensuite vallée de Fergana pour rejoindre Tachkent, mais là chaleur épouvantable, nous avons finis en taxi et pris le train pour visiter Samarcande et Boukhara, voilà en gros notre circuit; dans l'ensemble gens formidable et très accueillants on à beaucoup chez l'habitants, paysages somptueux, par contre Russe à savoir un minimum et aussi le lire, très peu d'anglais. si tu veux plus de détails...
Bonjour,
Oui le premier col monte assez haut, et il y un tunnel de 2 km où c'est assez mal aéré. des fois ça arrive même en voiture de s'étouffer le temps de passer le tunnel. Donc, ll faut faire attention. De Bichkek jusqu'à 20 ou 30km de ce col, il y a des villages le long de la route. après le col c'est le plateau de Soussamir. la bas il y a plein de yourte des bergers et aussi qui servent de petit café au bord de la route. Donc, après vous avez encore 140 km avant d'arriver au prochain village qui s'appelle Toktogoul dont je suis en fait originaire. Mais avant ce village, à 70 km à peu pres, il y a le deuxieme col de "Ala Bel", ca ma monte pas mal aussi, mais doucement.
Comme c'est que de la montagne, entre Toktoguol et JalalAbad vous avez encore un col mais pas tros difficile (je dis "pas difficile" car j'ai fait ca plusieurs fois en voiture)
Apres tous les soixante ou quarantes km, vous avez des villages.
Voila, si avez avez après d'autres questions n'hesitez pas.
Bon courage.
Oui le premier col monte assez haut, et il y un tunnel de 2 km où c'est assez mal aéré. des fois ça arrive même en voiture de s'étouffer le temps de passer le tunnel. Donc, ll faut faire attention. De Bichkek jusqu'à 20 ou 30km de ce col, il y a des villages le long de la route. après le col c'est le plateau de Soussamir. la bas il y a plein de yourte des bergers et aussi qui servent de petit café au bord de la route. Donc, après vous avez encore 140 km avant d'arriver au prochain village qui s'appelle Toktogoul dont je suis en fait originaire. Mais avant ce village, à 70 km à peu pres, il y a le deuxieme col de "Ala Bel", ca ma monte pas mal aussi, mais doucement.
Comme c'est que de la montagne, entre Toktoguol et JalalAbad vous avez encore un col mais pas tros difficile (je dis "pas difficile" car j'ai fait ca plusieurs fois en voiture)
Apres tous les soixante ou quarantes km, vous avez des villages.
Voila, si avez avez après d'autres questions n'hesitez pas.
Bon courage.
vive le vin français et le cheval kirghiz
On hésite encore vraiment par rapport à nos 3 semaines là-bas.
Ce qui est sûr, on va partir de Bishkek et aller à Suusamyr, par la grand' route. Rendu là, on ne sait pas si on aura le temps de faire une boucle Toktogul - Jalal Abad - Kazarman - Song Köl - Issy Kül . changgulu, tu dis qu'il doit exister une piste qui part du lac de Toktogul jusqu'à Arslanbob ? Il n'y a pas de piste qui coupe directement de Toktogul à Kazarman ? Sinon de Suusamyr, on bifurque direct vers Chayek et le lac Song Köl puis direction lac Issy Kul et Karakol. Retour Karakol-Bishkek en car. Cette deuxième solution me semble frustrante car elle a l'impression d'être courte, on reste dans la partie Nord du Pays.
Qu'en pensez vous ?
Et on part dans 4 jours, à nous le Kirghizstan !
Aero
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It covers everything from the trans-America route to the TCR (Trans Continental Race) from Belgium to a small town in Turkey, with mind-blowing averages—4,000 km and 80,000 m of elevation gain in 8 days and 15 hours for the winner. Let that sink in, and all of it without assistance—accepting a patch could penalize you. There’s also a story about crossing Iran, encountering one of the world’s most welcoming populations, following in the footsteps of Nicolas Bouvier, as well as retirees leisurely traversing France. The common thread in all these stories? Beautiful writing. Take, for example, a stunning article: *"Passengers of the Cold: From Edinburgh to Thurso, at the very north of Scotland, 550 km of moors, coasts, and icy wind. In Thurso, the road ends at a quay, facing the Orkney Islands. We wanted a November trip, off-season. We wanted to surprise winter. Just before the snow."* A sublime piece on the experience of facing adversity and the chance encounters along the road and in the elements.
Before I embarked on my own bike trips, I dreamed a lot about them—from the Atacama to the Gobi, along the Mekong, and not forgetting France. And now, these 130 pages every quarter keep those dreamy vibes alive through stories written in the most beautiful prose.
I’ll stop here because it might sound like I’m advertising, but if you don’t know *200*, I invite you to discover it. It’ll give you wings for the most incredible challenges or simply reinforce your desire for slow rides with your eyes open to others and nature.
A little news to wrap up: Axel Carion and a friend just broke the record for crossing South America from Colombia to Ushuaia in 59 days. On its own, that doesn’t mean much, but I can’t help it—it makes me dream. You should see how he talks about it, the flashes of that wild nature he’s stored away: a snowstorm at Paso Jama and the surreal sight of the suddenly snow-covered Licancabur!
Luc PS: The magazine is called *200* because a day’s ride starts at 200 km—well, I’ve never done a ride like that since my longest was 167 km (with 18 kg of luggage, mind you), but why not one day? The magazine will explain how to tackle your first 200, and then the question in conclusion: when will you do your first 300?😏
Hi there,
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires. I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time). I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral. I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough? And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Nath
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires. I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time). I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral. I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough? And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Nath
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Heinz Stucke has passed away.
He never stopped traveling the world since 1962.
So sad.
https://www.facebook.com/heinzstucke
https://www.facebook.com/heinzstucke
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hello,
We’d like to go on a 3- to 4-month bike trip starting in December, crossing from Assam (northeast India) to New Delhi via Nepal.
Are there routes with light traffic along the Brahmaputra and through Nepal?
We’re also looking for any info on accommodations, wild camping, local interactions, etc.
Thanks,
Michel
Hi there,
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon






