Nous partons 3 semaines en cyclocamping au Kirghizstan fin juillet. Nous avons idée de faire une boucle dans le sens Bishkek - Jalal Abad - Song Köl - Karakol - Bishkek Cela veut dire que nous commençons par l'ascension du col Tör Ashuu à 3500 m. Apparemment, ça monte fort : une centaine de km dans la vallée de Bishkek à Kara-Balta puis après ça grimpe. Pensez vous que c'est réalisable de commencer par ce col, "à la descente de l'avion" (enfin 3 jours après) ? Comment est l'ascension (indication des kilométrages, pentes ?) Y'a t il des haltes, villages ou autres pendant l'ascension du col ? Est il possible de bivouaquer sur le bord de la route ? Merci
Passage à vélo des cols sur route Bishkek-Jalal Abad (Kirghizistan)
by Aero
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Nous partons 3 semaines en cyclocamping au Kirghizstan fin juillet. Nous avons idée de faire une boucle dans le sens Bishkek - Jalal Abad - Song Köl - Karakol - Bishkek Cela veut dire que nous commençons par l'ascension du col Tör Ashuu à 3500 m. Apparemment, ça monte fort : une centaine de km dans la vallée de Bishkek à Kara-Balta puis après ça grimpe. Pensez vous que c'est réalisable de commencer par ce col, "à la descente de l'avion" (enfin 3 jours après) ? Comment est l'ascension (indication des kilométrages, pentes ?) Y'a t il des haltes, villages ou autres pendant l'ascension du col ? Est il possible de bivouaquer sur le bord de la route ? Merci
Nous partons 3 semaines en cyclocamping au Kirghizstan fin juillet. Nous avons idée de faire une boucle dans le sens Bishkek - Jalal Abad - Song Köl - Karakol - Bishkek Cela veut dire que nous commençons par l'ascension du col Tör Ashuu à 3500 m. Apparemment, ça monte fort : une centaine de km dans la vallée de Bishkek à Kara-Balta puis après ça grimpe. Pensez vous que c'est réalisable de commencer par ce col, "à la descente de l'avion" (enfin 3 jours après) ? Comment est l'ascension (indication des kilométrages, pentes ?) Y'a t il des haltes, villages ou autres pendant l'ascension du col ? Est il possible de bivouaquer sur le bord de la route ? Merci
Aero
Salut, tout d'abord il faut aller jusqu'à Kara Balta, sur la route principale, c'est assez dangereux et les voitures sont assez rapides. N'oublions pas qu'acheter ou passer le permis de conduire coûte le même prix. 60km de plat, ensuite la route tourne vers le sud et monte légèrement sur environ 20 km, ensuite, il y a un poste pour le paiement du tunnel, puis encore 20 km tranquille, puis le début de la montée environ 30km. Je ne sais pas comment vous allez traverser le tunnel, mais oubliez le col qui est fermé. Depuis le tunnel, c'est ensuite une route de caillous d'un côté et plus rien de l'autre. Pour traverser le tunnel, vaut mieux s'arranger avec un chauffeur de camion, pour vous le faire traverser. De l'autre côté, le premier guesthouse que vous verrez est une nouvelle station de ski. Vous pouvez peut-être vous ravitailler ou dormir au chaud. Puis descente jusque dans la vallée de Sussamyr. Là, je vous conseille plutôt de descendre dans le canyon de la Kekemeren et rejoindre Toktogul via Aral et Tuluk, pour éviter la route principale. En suivant la Kekemeren, vous allez trouver plein de petit villages : Sussamyr avec bazar aux animaux, Kojomkul avec musée du héros qui levait des rochers jusqu'à 690 kg, Kyzyl Oi CBT organise des trekks, Aral, Kyzyl Korgon, Tuluk, lac Toktogul. Sinon vous prenez la route de Sussamyr et il n'y a rien jusqu'à Toktogul (sauf quelques yourte-koumys et des chaikhanas dans la descente du canyon de Chichkhan. Ensuite de l'autre côté du lac, il devrait y avoir une route qui vous emmène directement vers Arslanbob, peut-être de terre, mais je préférerais à la route principale. N'oubliez pas que jusqu'à Och, c'est la route la plus importante de Kirghizie, qui relie le Nord au Sud. Je pense que le détour à Och vaut la peine.
Pour les questions pratiques, je pense que la montée à vélo est le meilleur moyen pour se faire à l'altitude. Vous pouvez bivouaquer n'importe où. Les kilomètres sont indiqués sur la route principale, la pente est toujours indiquée à 12%.
Pour les questions pratiques, je pense que la montée à vélo est le meilleur moyen pour se faire à l'altitude. Vous pouvez bivouaquer n'importe où. Les kilomètres sont indiqués sur la route principale, la pente est toujours indiquée à 12%.
Peace & ride
Merci pour tes infos précises Changgulu.
ça a l'air tout à fait faisable, on va passer par là. Et merci pour ta suggestion d'itinéraires. Pour l'instant on s'est fixé nos grandes directions, on verra sur place plus précisément. Och on hésite pas mal, c'est assez excentré. On lit souvent que c'est une ville intéressante mais c'est un peu excentré.
Aero
nous rentrons d'un mois au kirgisthan (à vélo) et je te conseille de bifurquer et prendre la vallée de sumsamyr, pour rejoindre le lac issykul, car la route jusqu'à jallabad est une route camion et à voiture il ya mieux à faire, et pour camper demande toujours au habitants ou à côté des yourtes tu te fera invité à coup sûr, si tu veux plus de renseignements n'hésite pas.
Salut Trailer,
C'est intéressant ce que tu dis. nous on avait prévu d'aller à Jalal Abad parce que la route Jalal Abad Song köl par Kazarman et Jangy-Talap avait l'air formidable. Mais on peut arriver à Song Köl par le Nord, en passant par la vallée de Sumsamyr. C'est ce que tu as fait ? Comment c'est par là ? Si tu peux me donner quelques indications de votre itinéraire pour voir ce qu'il est possible de faire en 3 semaines, c'est super. A bientôt ;-)
C'est intéressant ce que tu dis. nous on avait prévu d'aller à Jalal Abad parce que la route Jalal Abad Song köl par Kazarman et Jangy-Talap avait l'air formidable. Mais on peut arriver à Song Köl par le Nord, en passant par la vallée de Sumsamyr. C'est ce que tu as fait ? Comment c'est par là ? Si tu peux me donner quelques indications de votre itinéraire pour voir ce qu'il est possible de faire en 3 semaines, c'est super. A bientôt ;-)
Aero
voilà ce que nous avons fait en un mois; Almaty (KZT), puis Karakol par le Nord et le Canyon de Charyn, ensuite nous avons longés le" lac Issykul jusqu'à Balichy puis la vallée de Sumsamir, puis descente jusqu'à Toktogul, puis camion (Kamaz) jusqu'à Och (attention si tu n'as pas le visa OUZBEK obliger de faire un grand détour pour rejoindre la ville, ensuite vallée de Fergana pour rejoindre Tachkent, mais là chaleur épouvantable, nous avons finis en taxi et pris le train pour visiter Samarcande et Boukhara, voilà en gros notre circuit; dans l'ensemble gens formidable et très accueillants on à beaucoup chez l'habitants, paysages somptueux, par contre Russe à savoir un minimum et aussi le lire, très peu d'anglais. si tu veux plus de détails...
Bonjour,
Oui le premier col monte assez haut, et il y un tunnel de 2 km où c'est assez mal aéré. des fois ça arrive même en voiture de s'étouffer le temps de passer le tunnel. Donc, ll faut faire attention. De Bichkek jusqu'à 20 ou 30km de ce col, il y a des villages le long de la route. après le col c'est le plateau de Soussamir. la bas il y a plein de yourte des bergers et aussi qui servent de petit café au bord de la route. Donc, après vous avez encore 140 km avant d'arriver au prochain village qui s'appelle Toktogoul dont je suis en fait originaire. Mais avant ce village, à 70 km à peu pres, il y a le deuxieme col de "Ala Bel", ca ma monte pas mal aussi, mais doucement.
Comme c'est que de la montagne, entre Toktoguol et JalalAbad vous avez encore un col mais pas tros difficile (je dis "pas difficile" car j'ai fait ca plusieurs fois en voiture)
Apres tous les soixante ou quarantes km, vous avez des villages.
Voila, si avez avez après d'autres questions n'hesitez pas.
Bon courage.
Oui le premier col monte assez haut, et il y un tunnel de 2 km où c'est assez mal aéré. des fois ça arrive même en voiture de s'étouffer le temps de passer le tunnel. Donc, ll faut faire attention. De Bichkek jusqu'à 20 ou 30km de ce col, il y a des villages le long de la route. après le col c'est le plateau de Soussamir. la bas il y a plein de yourte des bergers et aussi qui servent de petit café au bord de la route. Donc, après vous avez encore 140 km avant d'arriver au prochain village qui s'appelle Toktogoul dont je suis en fait originaire. Mais avant ce village, à 70 km à peu pres, il y a le deuxieme col de "Ala Bel", ca ma monte pas mal aussi, mais doucement.
Comme c'est que de la montagne, entre Toktoguol et JalalAbad vous avez encore un col mais pas tros difficile (je dis "pas difficile" car j'ai fait ca plusieurs fois en voiture)
Apres tous les soixante ou quarantes km, vous avez des villages.
Voila, si avez avez après d'autres questions n'hesitez pas.
Bon courage.
vive le vin français et le cheval kirghiz
On hésite encore vraiment par rapport à nos 3 semaines là-bas.
Ce qui est sûr, on va partir de Bishkek et aller à Suusamyr, par la grand' route. Rendu là, on ne sait pas si on aura le temps de faire une boucle Toktogul - Jalal Abad - Kazarman - Song Köl - Issy Kül . changgulu, tu dis qu'il doit exister une piste qui part du lac de Toktogul jusqu'à Arslanbob ? Il n'y a pas de piste qui coupe directement de Toktogul à Kazarman ? Sinon de Suusamyr, on bifurque direct vers Chayek et le lac Song Köl puis direction lac Issy Kul et Karakol. Retour Karakol-Bishkek en car. Cette deuxième solution me semble frustrante car elle a l'impression d'être courte, on reste dans la partie Nord du Pays.
Qu'en pensez vous ?
Et on part dans 4 jours, à nous le Kirghizstan !
Aero
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Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou





