Bonsoir,
nous (2 personnes) partons d'ici peu en Chine. Notre agent de voyage nous conseille de compléter les prestations du chauffeur et du guide par 25 eur par jour... ce qui nous semble beaucoup.
Qu'en pensez-vous?
Nous avons beaucoup voyagé au Vietnam et au Laos dans les mêmes conditions.
D'autre part, je lis beaucoup de conseils divergents quant aux pourboires en Chine.
Merci pour vos précieux avis
25 euros par jour de pourboire...
Disons que c'est "un tout petit peu" exagéré.
Avant les Chinois ne demandaient pas de pourboires, mais il se peut que votre agence compte sur votre générosité pour les payer, tout simplement ; à mon avis votre agence se moque de vous.
Sans doute s'agit-il de yuans et non d'euros, ce qui fait quand même 10 fois moins.
Franchement, 25 euros par jour, pour quelqu'un qui travaillerait par exemple 20 jours par mois, ça ferait 500 euros de pourboire par mois, soit trois fois environ le salaire moyen de Shanghai, et cinq ou six fois le salaire moyen des provinces plus intérieures que vous pourriez être amenés à visiter. Ca ne tient pas debout.
Merci pour la réponse, je dois avouer que de toute manière je trouvais cela exagéré. Mais une amie m'a dit qu'elle croyait que les agences de voyage chinoise imposait même un pourboire fixe par jour!!!! A voir
De toute manière nous refusons d'être pigeons!!!!
Bonne journéé
Bonjour, le raisonnement est tout à fait exact et de plus le guide et le chauffeur sont déjà inclus dans le prix du voyage!!!! Trop c'est trop
Ils avaient bien précisé... euros!!!
Merci
J'étais a Hangzhou ce w-e et comme deja dit plus haut, les pourboires ne sont pas de mise en Chine.
Rien que de laisser "les pieces" pour pas percer ses poches n'est pas évident car on croit que tu oublis ta monnaie.
Il est tout simplement possible que l'agence ou son correspondant NE PAIENT PAS le chauffeur et le guide tout en vous le facturant. De toute façon, il y a de l'arnaque dans l'air.
Vous devriez montrer ce fil à votre agent de voyage histoire de lui mettre le nez dans son caca
Merci de votre réponse - j'ai bien eu confirmation que dans le prix global du voyage était bien inclus les salaire du guide et du chauffeur. Exclu que nous payons 2 x !!! Je suis persuadée que l'agent représentant cette agence officielle chnoise a tout simplement essayé. Dommage d'agir ainsi c'est la première fois que cela nous arrive! Excellente soirée Patetmo
Eternelle question............. J' ai moi-même posé la question sur le forum le 27 février page 2, vas voir les réponses. J' en ai déduit que l' on donne au feeling, et si on est content des prestations.
Je pars en Chine demain, à mon retour, je mettrai ma petite expérience sur le forum.....😉
je te souhaite un excellent voyage. Nous avons toujours agi de la sorte pour améliorer leur quotidien et pour des prestations de qualité . C'est plutôt du côté du voyagiste que cela m'a choquée! J'ai hâte de lire ton expérience chinoise.
Patetmo
Le pourboire est une chose délicate à manier car il diffère beaucoup d'un pays à l'autre, du service fourni et a tendance à changer dans le temps : ce qui est vrai une année ne l'est pas obligatoirement l'année suivante.
Les réponses extrêmes que j'ai pu lire disant qu'on ne donne pas de pourboire en Chine est à la limite criminelle, car elle est de nature à provoquer des catastrophes sur la façon dont les guides et chauffeurs pourraient vous pourrir votre séjour et faire de ce moment priviligié qu'est le voyage une véritable catastrophe.
Pour donner un exemple, une agence de voyage française donnait une indication de prévoir un pourboire de 30 à 50 euros au total pour 2 semaines en Chine (500 rmb). Je ne donnerai pas son nom par charité et parce qu'ils ont rectifié leur erreur depuis. Le résultat a été dans un premier temps des guides très mécontents, des bagages qui arrivaient cassés (arrivé deux fois), et dans un deuxième temps, plus aucun guide expérimenté puis diplômés qui n'acceptaient de prendre les groupes de cette agence française (et encore moins de individuels). Et l'agence réceptive (en gros, CITS et CTS qui couvrent à elles deux 80% du réceptif en Chine) ne pouvait fournir que des guides débutants en stage, ne connaissant pas bien le métier ni le français, ni même parfois l'histoire de leur propre pays.
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C'est plus compliqué pour les groupes. Ci dessous un commentaire détaillé valable pour la Chine en 2007. ATTENTION, il probable que pour 2008 les gens vont attendre un peu plus de pourboire diu fait qu'à cause des JO, ils ont l'impression qu'ils auront plus de touristes alors que probablement ils en auront moins du fait des prix supérieurs.
En effet, en Chine, désormais (le basculement s'est fait il y a un peu plus de dix ans), le pourboire représente une part importante du revenu des services du tourisme. Et contrairement à ce que certains semblaient dire dans les réponses que j'ai lu, il y a bien un montant que les prestataires s'attendent à percevoir.
Quels sont ces prestataires ?> guides (guide national et guide local). A priori, il n'y a pas de différence de compétence entre guide national et guide local, et souvent les guides nationaux font aussi guide local dans leur région. En tout cas, ils suivent les mêmes formations, ils ont les mêmes examens, ils sont soumis aux mêmes obligations de stage en dehors de leur région. Il y a quelques exceptions (par exemple il y a un interprète chinois-français qui a directement accédé au statut de guide au coeur du Yunnan du fait d'un déficit grave de guides francophones dans cette région. Il a commencé début 2006, et le début a été un peu laborieux, mais il est travailleur et gentil, et désormais, il travaille au même niveau de standard que les autres et même plutôt supérieur à la moyenne. Un guide s'attend à percevoir entre 1 et 2 euros par jour et par personne. Ce qui fait varier le chiffre est le nombre de personnes, la durée du voyage et le niveau de service. A deux, on est plutôt à 2 euros par jour et par personne, car le guide fait à peu près le même travail pour deux que pour 10. On est à 1 euro pour un groupe de 12 à 16 personnes où ne guide ne fout pas grand chose à part donner les explications et suivre le programme. S'il essaye de modifier le programme, d'adapter en fonction de la météo, d'aider pour traduire pour faire le shopping etc... on passe de 1 à 1, 5
C'est une question d'appréciation. Attention au fait qu'en groupe rassemblé par le hasard des ventes de l'agence française, il suffit de quelques uns qui ne jouent pas le jeu pour en être impacté alors qu'on est soi-même très correct.
Si vous avez guide local et guide national (le national est celui qui reste avec vous tout le voyage), il faut donner aux deux.> Chauffeurs de bus
Ou chauffeurs que l'on garde (minibus). on leur donne en général la moitié de ce donne le guide. De nouveau, cela dépend de ce qu'il fait. mais il faut bien comprendre qu'attendre quand on visite, ce n'est peut être pas aussi fatiguant qu'un boulot de terrassier, mais cela finit par faire des heures à la fin de la journée. Et le chauffeur, même s'il ne parle pas français est la plupart du temps en train de vous arranger des coups, de garder vos affaires que vous laissez, de charger vos bagages etc...> Camionnette bagage
Il arrive parfois que vos bagages ne viennent pas avec vous dans le bus ou votre minibus. C'est la cas par exemple des bus 45 personnes qui ne peuvent prendre dans les coffres que les bagages d'une quinzaine (à une grosse valise par personne). Il y a donc une camionnette bagages qui vient charger vos bagages pour les amener à l'hôtel. Ils sont très mal payés par les agences et ne peuvent tenir pour nourrir leur famille que si on donne un pourboire. Il y a une sorte de côte mal taillée mais qui semble acceptée de leur donner 5rmb par bagage avec un mini de 30rmb. S'ils sont en dehors des heures de bureau (par exemple avant 9h00 et après 20h) on rajoute 50rmb.
Cela ne concerne généralement pas les individuels. Parfois, on rajoute 50rmb si le service va jusqu'à pré-enregistrer les bagages (on ne fait même pas la queue). En indiv, c'est plutôt le guide qui fait ça pour vous (il ne le fera spontanément que s'il sent qu'il sera récompensé pour ce travail qui ne lui est pas demandé à la place de manger par exemple).> Chasseurs des hôtels.
Monter les bagages dans les chambres ou les descendre est normalement de 5 rmb par bagage dans un sens ou dans l'autre. Pour les groupes, on fait en fonction du nombre de bagages, même si les voyageurs les montent eux-même. Ce prix comprend la garde des bagages à la conciergerie (souvent laissés dans le hall sous un filet les protégeant contre le vol en passant) mais pas la garde avec un ticket. Dans les 4 et 5* le tarif passe à 10rmb par bagage.> Restaurants
Pas de pourboire attendu par le personnel dans les restaurants sauf service exceptionnel. On revient à la notion initiale du pourboire
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Pour votre question précise à deux en Chine, combien faut-il prévoir de pourboire par jour et par personne ?> 2 euros/j/personne pour chaque guide> 1 euros/j/personne pour le chauffeur (pas de pourboire pour les chauffeurs de taxi, sauf l'arrondi de monnaie éventuel)> 0, 50 euros par bagage dans les hotels (par montée ou descente), 1 euros dans les 4* et 5*
Pour les autres pourboires (promenade dans la vielle ville en cyclo-pousse, photo des paysans qui viennent comme "modèles avec leur buffle ou leur cormoran en particulier du côté de Guilin), demandez conseil au guide, il saura vous conseiller pour que tout le monde soit satisfait. On est de l'ordre de 10 à 20 rmb pour un pourboire de cyclo-pousse en dehors du prix payé par l'agence et de 5 à 10 rmb pour les paysans qui posent exprès.
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De façon plus générale, si vous êtes en groupe en 4*, prévoyez 10 euros par jour et par personne pour ne pas tomber en panne d'espèces. Vous devriez normalement vous en tirer pour 6 à 8 euros /j/personne avec guide national plus guide local, transport bagages, hôtels et quelques petits pourboires de ci de là pour des trucs supplémentaires.
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CONCLUSION :
25 euros/j/personne n'est pas un bon chiffre si cela ne concerne que le pourboire. Mais ceux qui vous disent que l'agence veut se faire de l'argent n'y connaissent pas grand-chose : ce n'est pas comme cela que ça fonctionne et quelque soit le montant que l'agence vous indique, elle ne touche rien du pourboire. C'est peut être un défaut de connaissance masi en aucun cas du vol, et très probablement, ce ne sont pas eux qui ont conçu le voyage mais le réceptif (renseignez vous, à 8 contre 10 que c'est CTS ou CITS)
Soyez un peu attentif et voyez comment agit votre guide : le 2 euros/j et par personne peut être augmenté significativement s'il vous emmène faire du shopping dans des endroits pas chers où il ne touche pas de commission. Pour donner un exemple, une couette à garnissage en soie de 2500kg de garnissage (garnissage super hiver) est affiché dans les 80 euros (78 euros dans les magasins d'état, 79 euros à l'aéroport de Shangahi en boutique HT). Dans les magasins d'état, le guide vous obtient 10% de réduction et touche 10% de commission. Sur un groupe, il vous sera presque impossible de vous faire emmener ailleurs. A deux, il peut vous amener (par exemple dans l'ancienne avJoffre à Shanghai) dans des magasins ou on arrive à tomber dans les 50 euros la couette ou moins si on est bon négociateur (qu'on en achète trois, etc...). Il est alors évident qu'il faut lui redonner l'équivalent d'une commission qu'il n'a plus pour vous faire gagner de l'argent.
Si vous êtes dans la moyenne de ce qu'il faut donner, pas de pb. si vous sortez de l'ordinaire, il saura prévenir le guide suivant qui vous prend en charge (si vous n'avez que des guides locaux) lors de la procédure normale de passage où il doit appeler le guide suivant pour confirmer votre départ en train ou en avion. Et dans ce cas, cela peut devenir pénible si vous n'avez pas fait ce qu'il faut.
Un tout tout grand merci pour cette mine de conseils qui répond à notre manière de voyager... et nous voici prévenu!!! ... quand à l'agence.
Je ne manquerai pas de raconter notre expérience sur le forum en juin .
Excellent voyage à tous ceux qui comme nous ont le bonheur de partir en voyage
Patetmo
Je pars avec une agence chinoise de Montréal en juin.
On doit payer les pourboires d'avance à l'agence soit $226.00 par personne pour 19 jours.
C'est la première fois que je voyage avec cette agence et je trouve ça spécial de payer d'avance mais on n'a pas le choix. Il y a une autre agence dans le quartier chinois qui agit de la même façon.
226 euros par personne pour des pouboires quand on sait qu'en Chine on peut voyager en routard avec un budget de 25 euros ( et c'est méme du luxe ) par jour ça reléve du racket tout simplement . La Chine est un pays ou il est trés facile de voyager en individuel alors pourquoi payer plus ???? De toute façon il y a une régle générale : NE JAMAIS ACHETER UN CIRCUIT UNE EXCURSION OU UNE LOCATION DE VOITURE DEPUIS SON PAYS DE DEPART CE SERA TOUJOURS PLUS CHER QUE DE NEGOCIER SUR PLACE . Et c'est valable pour tous les pays .
Bonjour, vous êtes peut-être déjà parti en chine mais il n'est jamais trop tard pour savoir!
Je suis allée 9 fois, dont une fois 7 mois, en chine et je n'ai jamais donné de pourboire. Si pourboire il fallait donner 5 euros sont largement suffisant. Il faut savoir qu'en Chine un bon salaire est de 400 euros par mois. Ne donnez pas 25 euros, sauf si ça ne vous dérange pas de donner autant, bien sûr. Faut juste savoir que c'est de l'arnaque touristique.
Autre conseil: lorsque vous allez dans un magasin touristique, diviser les prix par trois. Faut pas culpabiliser, en général la qualité n'est pas géniale et eux ils y gagnent toujours. Les chinois dirons toujours que ce qu'ils vous vendent est de bonne qualité mais la bonne qualité se paye au prix fort et dans des magasins officiels où les prix sont affichés sur des étiquettes.
Exemples:
un sac à dos acheté dans un magasin touristique vaut 5euros
un sac à dos de la marque "li-ning" acheté dans un magasin officiel vaut 15euros
Next year, we’re celebrating 20 years of marriage (and travel 🙂), and we’re looking for something new, pretty legendary, and something the teens will enjoy too.
The family council has settled on Japan for now. And it’d have to be a summer trip—no choice there.
The catch: I keep reading that August isn’t the right season for southern Japan. It’s hot, humid, and there’s a risk of typhoons… Okay, but what does that *actually* mean in practice? Are there any travelers who’ve been there during this time? Is it *that* unbearable?
We’re pretty familiar with Southeast Asia—last year, we dealt with scorching heat in Vietnam and insane humidity, plus a typhoon we experienced from a distance, and visiting Angkor in the blazing sun. Is it worse than that?
Hi,
July 2026: I’m writing to you from Dali.
First, I got scammed on Booking—AI-retouched photos. No tourists at this hotel (Yishanju Designer Hotel), and the reality was horrible: dirty, with a disgusting breakfast. It’s better to use Trip.com here.
Next, the old town was an infernal cacophony, packed with tourists who shoved past without a care. Some vendors harassed you to buy things. All the stalls sold the same cheap plastic junk or other uninteresting stuff. The beautiful scenery was ruined by vendors lining 100% of the alleys. Impossible to walk, crushing heat, nothing good to eat except fresh fruit. Horrible experience.
Day 2: We went to Cangshan Mountain by cable car—the ride was short and nothing spectacular. We were at 2,600 m.
My plan was to see Erhai Lake. Unfortunately, I followed the advice of an AI chatbot: take the boat at Langkan Dock. The Didi dropped us off in the nearest area, which was full of charming little alleys but packed with Chinese tourists. The three-wheeled yellow cabs zoomed through the narrow streets, forcing you to hug the walls, on top of the scooters and other pedestrians to deal with. Crossing the neighborhood was hellish and suffocating. Once out, we hit the "corniche," which was also packed with Chinese tourists. The lake’s edge was all pebbles, and everyone was standing around taking photos. I was with my 5-year-old son. I would’ve liked to sit down and let him play with stones by the water, but it was clear we didn’t belong. They were even shoving each other for a shot! There were no boats in sight. In short, we’d had enough, and there was nothing interesting there either.
On the way back, we had to cross that maze again under the scorching sun. My son was braver than me—I even had a little dizzy spell from all the chaos. Add to that Dali’s altitude (2,200 m), so altitude insomnia, fatigue, and vulnerability during the day...
The restaurants weren’t inviting—the staff served sticky rice in a little bucket. The dishes were wrapped, and you had to figure it out yourself. After that, they ignored you completely, even if you were the only tourist.
On the 3rd day, it was time to leave for Shaxi. I hope to see beautiful villages. But honestly, I’m exhausted by this atmosphere where everything is complicated, communication is never smooth, noise is everywhere, and the behavior of some Chinese people is abusive...
Silver lining: not a drop of rain in 4 days and blue skies.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there...
But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
I’m heading to Yunnan in February 2027.
We’ll be traveling exclusively by train since my daughter gets car sick.
Our itinerary includes:
Kunming
Jianshui
Dali
Shaxi
Lijiang
Shangri-La
I’d love any tips, especially other places to visit (without winding roads) or great hotel, guesthouse, or minsu recommendations.
Thanks!
Claudine
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In the sea of VPNs, I'm looking for one to use in China for just a month (free or paid). Which one should I pick? All the ones I've found are for several months or even a year.
I’m planning an itinerary for Hokkaido but I’m struggling to decide if late May to early June will be the right time.
Too early for the flower fields but…
What do you think?
Hi,
Our trip is planned for 20 days in Japan next April. We have a free subscription that would allow us to use 35 GB (I’m a bit confused), but we also need to be able to make phone calls with a French couple traveling with us for a few days, and that seems impossible due to cost... Any solutions for using GPS while keeping those 35 GB? Used to traveling in Southeast Asia, we usually rely on local SIM cards. Is it easy to do the same in Japan?
Thanks for your help!
Best,
Tialou
Hi,
My departure is coming up soon—two months backpacking in Taiwan, so much to discover! I’d love to hear about your travel experiences.
My main interests are meeting people, understanding how things work, hiking, and nature in general. I’ve also done a lot of reading about Taiwan’s complex situation.
I do stone sculpture.
I also want to visit Orchid Island for its history.
Marie
Hi,
I’ve always been used to exchanging my money (€) in town no matter the country (with a "mini exchange" at the airport if needed).
I can’t find any recent posts on this topic from the last few years.
Does anyone have any insights on this? Intrinsic benefits, best places to exchange, etc.?
I arrive at Tokyo Haneda on a Friday around 12:30 PM, and my first night is very close to Shinjuku.
Thanks.
Here are some tips from our 6-week trip (summer 2026) to China, Vietnam, and Cambodia. We traveled as a family of four with two kids aged 15 and 12.
I hope these notes help other travelers!
CHINA
General
You’ll need to download and set up a few apps:
- Alipay and WeChat for payments (I didn’t withdraw a single bill the entire trip)
- Didi for taxis
- Amap = Chinese Maps (works great, especially for subways)
- A translation app (we used Papago, but it sometimes gave weird results)
- Google Lens for translating menus or signs—super handy.
- HelloRide for bikes
- Gemini and ChatGPT for everything: understanding daily life, enhancing visits, checking the weather, finding things.
- HomeExchange if you want to lower travel costs (few listings in Asia except in big cities, often expats)
- Trip.com is very useful, even essential, for trains, domestic flights, and hotels. Like Booking.com, the more you book with them, the more perks you get. So I’d even suggest checking flight tickets on this site, even if it’s a bit pricier. However, buying train tickets is complicated because (1) they only open 15 days in advance, and (2) they sell out fast. Trip.com just promises to buy them as soon as they’re available but doesn’t always succeed. It’s stressful and might force you to change your plans, especially if you’re aiming for a sleeper car and there are no seats left. Watch out for station names—many cities have multiple stations, including a high-speed rail one outside the city.
For internet, we got the Asia plan from Holafly. It worked but seemed much slower than Chinese internet. I regretted not buying a Chinese SIM card because without internet in China, everything is VERY complicated (money, transport, etc.).
For the firewall, we used ExpressVPN, but it wasn’t always reliable. A bit disappointing. Ask ChatGPT for tips with screenshots to improve the settings.
Since we only had one SIM card with internet, we couldn’t rent shared bikes. If I were to do it again, I’d get a SIM for each person, even the kids, because distances in cities are huge. We walked *a lot*. Same goes for buses—it’s tricky with just one internet connection. Better to have a phone per person with internet.
Book your visits as far in advance as possible—they often sell out.
Watch out for power banks: if they don’t explicitly say "3C," they’ll confiscate it. Even if there’s a little airplane logo.
Shanghai
In the evening, the streets leading to the Bund from the metro were so crowded that police were out in force blocking roads. Arrive early. We went around the north side.
Suzhou
Be careful—there are two stations (common in China), and the high-speed rail one is 45–50 minutes from the old town.
The Humble Administrator’s Garden was *packed*—we don’t recommend it. It turned into a marathon day from Shanghai (almost 4 hours from our hotel to the garden).
Beijing
Forbidden City: Don’t go—I know it’s a shame, but it’s too crowded. I couldn’t buy tickets on the official site because of the kids’ passports. We ended up with a guided tour, the only way to get in (tickets sell out fast). The visit was disappointing—bad guide *and* massive crowds. You’ll queue a lot to enter and see certain areas. You’ll be checked often, so pack your bags carefully.
Great Wall at Mutianyu: Crowded. Two hours by bus, and even though we arrived early, people were already leaving! I really think the best option is to leave your big bags in Beijing and stay overnight near the Wall. That way, you’ll have it to yourself a bit more. For transport: get off at Tiananmen Square metro and look for buses with official guides in bright yellow-green vests. No need to buy tickets online—they made me cancel mine to rebook on the spot. Buses leave when full. Note: the cable car and chairlift are separate—if you want to go up one side and down the other, you’ll need different tickets. The endless queue for the toboggan ride put us off.
Quick tip: Incredible swimming spot in Beijing—on the north shore of Houhai Lake, you can swim by crossing the barrier. We did it twice with about ten other people. Bring a swimsuit!
Shapotou Desert
Amazing, but it gets *very* hot in the afternoon. We had a tent (not an air-conditioned bungalow), which was unbearable during the day. We hung out in the restaurant.
The paid activities are fun, except the camels—they look sad. The real highlight is the evening and sunset. The only downside: you can’t explore the desert alone or far—they don’t rent 4x4s, for example.
We stayed at "The Desert Camping Hotel of the Proprietress of Shapotou." They were lovely.
Zhongwei
Gaomiao Temple and its underground: Fun and short—you’ll see quirky Buddhist hell paintings.
Xi’an
Terracotta Army: We took a Didi because for four people, a car was almost the same price as four shuttle tickets. It was packed—chaotic to see properly.
We visited the halls in order: 3, 2, then 1—a good choice.
Hua Shan Mountains: Left before sunrise to arrive when the ticket office opened (7 AM, I think). We were shocked to see so many people already coming down.
45 minutes by bus to the west cable car, then 15 minutes up.
We did the west, south, east, central, then north peaks (in that order) before taking the other cable car down (you can buy the ticket at the top). A beautiful day.
In the city, check out...
Chengdu
Panda Research Center: Like Hua Shan, plan to arrive when the ticket office opens. Already *tons* of people, and it moves fast to see the big pandas before their nap. Have them drop you at the west entrance (not south), or you’ll have to walk uphill.
Leshan Giant Buddha: Interesting. The trip is a bit long (metro, then train, then city bus, then shuttle on-site). We didn’t take the boat option but walked. In the end, you only spend a few minutes at the Buddha’s feet, but it’s a nice day out.
Hotel tip: Panda Enjoy Home Hotel Apartments (Chengdu East Railway Station Dongda Road Branch). The view is insane, and the neighborhood is super convenient and nice. 646 CNY for 2 nights.
Swimming: The municipal pool is an interesting experience, but don’t expect to swim—no one does. Everyone just splashes around where they can stand. The hours are a bit odd, with a break in the late afternoon.
Kunming
The bike path along Dian Lake is pretty and often well-protected from cars. But like everywhere in China, it’s *packed*. Not much to say about visits—the flower market is a wholesale market, not very interesting. The ethnic minorities museum closed right in front of us.
All the big malls are good for shopping.
Dali
We thought we could bike around the lake in two days. Wrong on two counts: First, the lake’s edge is blocked to traffic and reserved for bikes (or tourist mini-buses). So you’re stuck on the main road, which never gives you a view of the lake, with all the trucks and cars. Doing 120 km like that wouldn’t make sense, in our opinion. The rice fields around are nice but not as impressive as elsewhere, so Dali isn’t worth it for that.
The old town, all restored, is pretty but *packed*—thousands of people, especially in the evening.
Hekou (Vietnam border)
Comfortable train from Kunming. In the parking lot, a bus (not well-marked, but Didi is an option) takes you to the border in 15–20 minutes. Short wait at both border posts. Fun to see the two lampposts near the border line: the Chinese one is new, modern, with a surveillance camera (of course), while the Vietnamese one is old and a bit rusty.
VIETNAM
General:
- You’ll need the Grab app for taxis
- Very disappointed with 12Go—it doesn’t show all buses, never connects you with the company, and refuses refunds. Try booking directly with companies like FUTA Bus instead.
- Credit cards are often accepted (supermarkets and modern stores), otherwise, you’ll need cash
Lao Cai
2 km between the border and the train station.
The sleeper bus to Hanoi with Sao Viet is well-organized—it works.
Hanoi
Ho Chi Minh Mausoleum closes early (10:30 AM, I think).
Women’s Museum: Very good, not too long
Temple of Literature: Beautiful, fairly quick
This is where you should buy souvenirs, clothes, and knockoffs—the prices are reasonable, and the sellers are nicer than elsewhere. We recommend Cho Dong Xuan.
Tu Long Bay
We did 2 days, 1 night (so really 24 hours on the boat) with Parfum d’Automne (French-speaking agency), which put us on a Cycad Cruise boat. Cost: 300 € per person—expensive, but it was amazing, super luxurious, and the buffet meals were delicious. We don’t regret the splurge. The only downside: no swimming in the bay (but there’s a pool on the boat). To swim, you’d need a 3-day, 2-night trip to an area not protected by the maritime park.
Phong Nha
If you didn’t do the northern mountains due to time or weather (like us), Phong Nha is a great stop for a motorbike ride. It’s beautiful, especially the mountains west of the city toward the caves.
There are two (small) swimming spots at the Botanic Garden—a pleasant 45-minute walk without stops.
Hotel tip: Sunbeam Village (very friendly, pool, breakfast by the river, motorbike rentals)
Da Nang
Hotel tip: Meridians by Hsuite—you’ll have the beach almost to yourself. You’ll still need to walk 15–20 minutes to the hyper-touristy area if you want to rent surfboards (150–200k VND per hour).
The beach is beautiful, and the water is 30°C—great for a break on a long trip, especially since all transport goes through Da Nang.
Hoi An
45 minutes from Da Nang, so it’s easy to visit in a day, especially since the city isn’t that big and it’s *very* hot.
Cooking class: MS Hanh cooking class—great (the market tour is a bit useless). We don’t recommend the "basket boat" tour—it’s a bit sad on a big brown pond with elderly guides.
Ho Chi Minh City
Ben Thanh Market is a nightmare: starting prices are exorbitant, and the vendors are aggressive. Don’t go.
The War Remnants Museum can be really tough for kids.
Can Tho
Avoid this city. We made the mistake of going to see the floating market—don’t.
Chau Doc
No Grab in the city, but regular taxis.
One day is enough if you go early to the forest and the mountain in the late afternoon.
250k VND per person for the forest and its canals (45 minutes by motorbike)
The sunset at Victoria Nui Sam can be magnificent if the clouds cooperate.
Cheap and good restaurant: Quan Nem Nuong Sau Hiep
Hotel tip: Homestay Khoa (2,250,000 VND for 3 nights)—adorable hostess, full of tips, clean rooms.
The speedboat to Cambodia is more comfortable than a bus. Book with Hangchau a few days in advance—payment in cash on the day (1,640,000 đ).
CAMBODIA
General:
- Issues with the "Bakong Tourists" app—we had to go to a big bank to load money onto it. We barely used it afterward.
Phnom Penh
For us, a day and a half is enough if you want to spend more time elsewhere.
Markets close early (around 6 PM) and are less interesting than in Hanoi, for example.
The Royal Palace has a break from 11 AM to 2 PM, but there aren’t many people in the afternoon.
Siem Reap
Trip with Capitol company—the bus is basic but cheap. Departs at 10:15 AM, 7-hour ride.
Angkor entrance fee: 62 USD per person for a 3-day pass. Tickets are picked up at Angkor Enterprise.
Renting two 125cc motorbikes: 10 USD each, plus 7 USD for gas.
By bike, it took me 25 minutes to reach Angkor Wat’s pools. A basic city bike rental was 1 USD per hour.
Short circuit by motorbike (in reverse): 7 hours with stops everywhere.
Grand tour by tuk-tuk: Only 5 temples, 4.5 hours.
If you want to see lots of monkeys, they’re grouped west of Bayon.
For the temples, we asked Gemini (AI) at each stop to point out details that might interest kids (who can get bored with the repetition). It gave fun facts and things to look for—great for the little ones.
Hotel tip: The Five Senses, run by a Frenchman, Bruno, who knows Cambodia inside out and organizes tours.
Restaurant tip: Wild (only spring rolls, but *so* many varieties—delicious and cheap)
Watch out: 1 hour to the airport, 50 km from the city.
Show tip: The Phare Circus
Has anyone taken the bus recently, especially the Busda bus from Dongsi subway station to Mutianyu or the special tourist bus from Qianmen to Mutianyu? If so, I’d love to hear your feedback!
I’m traveling solo to China on September 18th and I’m completely overwhelmed by all the info out there.
This isn’t my first trip, but it’s still tough to make choices, so I’m open to outside perspectives.
This time, the plan is southern Kyushu with a slightly more off-the-beaten-path twist.
I’m not sure if you’ll be able to help since I’m skipping some of the classics in Kyushu, but you never know.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on whether this itinerary is realistic in terms of time spent in each place, travel time, and the overall pace of the road trip. Just to note, I already have my translated driver’s license.
Here’s the itinerary:
- **Day 1:** YAMAGA / overnight in Yamaga or Kumamoto
Depart from Osaka by train early in the morning to Kumamoto, pick up the rental car, then drive to Yamaga for a visit. Overnight in Yamaga or Kumamoto.
- **Days 2–4:** HITOYOSHI / overnight in Hitoyoshi
Drive to Hitoyoshi for 3 days and 3 nights, including a visit to the town, nearby waterfalls, a walk along the Kuma River, a tea producer visit, and some craft activities.
- **Day 5:** AYA / overnight in Miyazaki
Drive to Aya, visit the town, craft activities, the forest, and the suspension bridge.
- **Day 6:** AOSHIMA - NICHINAN COAST / overnight in Miyazaki
Udo Shrine + Aoshima + scenic drive along the coast.
- **Day 7:** MIYAKONOJO / overnight in Shibushi
Drive to a waterfall, then continue along the Nichinan Coast if there’s anything left to see, or visit Kojima Island.
- **Day 8:** SHIBUSHI
Walk around the port and along the Osumi Peninsula coast, maybe as far as the Kishira/Hetsuka coast, or visit a black pork producer, a market gardener, or a tea producer. Overnight at a farm?
- **Day 9:** KANOYA / overnight in Kagoshima
Visit Ogawara Waterfall, Nishiharadai Park, and Kannon Cave, then Sugawara Shrine, followed by the drive to Kagoshima.
- **Day 10:** KAGOSHIMA / overnight in Kagoshima
Explore the city + whisky distillery in Hioki.
- **Days 11–12:** KOSHIKISHIMA / 2 nights in Koshikishima
- **Day 13:** AKUNE OSHIMA / overnight in Akune
Ferry, then drive to Akune Oshima with a stop at Sendai Taki.
- **Days 14–15:** AMAKUSA / overnight in Amakusa
Drive via Nagashima and visit Shimoshima (Amakusa).
- **Day 16:** AMAKUSA / overnight in Fukuoka
Drive back toward Kumamoto with stops along the way, return the rental car, then take the train to Fukuoka.
- **Days 17–18:** FUKUOKA CITY / overnight in Fukuoka
Possible half-day excursion to Nokonoshima, Munakata, or Nanzoin.
Any thoughts or suggestions?
Too ambitious?
I could add an extra day but would prefer not to if it means less rushing around.
Hi everyone,
To simplify logistics, I'm considering renting a car for 5/6 days in the Japanese Alps before heading to Kyoto solo.
Is driving difficult or even risky in this region?
Thanks for your feedback!
Tara
We’re arriving as a group of three in Tokyo on Saturday, October 17th, then heading straight to Kyoto by direct train.
On Sunday and Monday, we’ll explore Kyoto, and in the evening, we’ll take a train to Osaka to spend the night.
On Tuesday, we’ll pick up a rental car at Itami Airport for a 6-day/5-night road trip around Shikoku:
- 2 nights in the Iya Valley
- Thursday morning, we’ll head to Matsuyama for 2 nights.
- Saturday, we’ll visit Mima (town, a few temples + overnight stay) and return on Sunday to drop off the car in Osaka.
We’ll leave very early on Monday the 26th by plane for Aomori in northern Honshu, where we’ll pick up another rental car at the airport for a 5-day/4-night trip:
- Day 1: Tsugaru Peninsula (Takayam Inari, Cape Tappi, Kanita); overnight in Kanita
- Day 2: Ferry transfer to the Mutsu Peninsula (cliffs, Lake Usori); overnight in Shimofuro
- Day 3: Head to the Hakkoda Mountains and onsens galore; overnight TBD
- Day 4: Return the car in Aomori by noon and explore the city before taking the train to Tokyo in the evening
We’ll spend Friday night in Tokyo, wander around on Saturday, and head home on Sunday.
Thoughts on the road feasibility of this trip? We’ll be there right in the middle of Koyo season, so it’ll be busy...
I know it’s a lot of driving, but there are two of us who can take turns. We’re not afraid of driving, even in the mountains and on the left side! Just wondering, are we going to be rushing, or is this manageable? AI says it’s all good, but it’s not the one driving...
Any tips for booking accommodations in the Iya Valley? Not many places have email addresses or websites (I know Booking.com exists, but not all listings are on there... and given the season, I think it’s better to book ahead!). Same question applies for northern Honshu.
For the rental car, I’m thinking of going with Alamo since at least it’s in French and straightforward, but are there any direct rental companies with user-friendly websites (Toyota Rentacar, ugh... 🏴☠️)?
Another question: With so many trains, is it even necessary to book them in advance? Can we just go to the ticket counter and grab seats on the spot?
For paying for the rental car, do we need a credit or debit card?
I saw there are several "authentic" villages about 90/100 km from Beijing.
Including: Lingshui, Liuliqu, Sangyu, Miaoying, and Cuandixia.
Has anyone visited any of them? I was thinking of choosing Cuandixia—what do you think?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone!
It seems there’s a flea market in Tianjin that’s way more interesting than the one in Beijing. I’ve been searching online but can’t find the right one… The one I’m looking for is called gu wan shi chang (my PC won’t display the Chinese characters…). Does anyone have the address and has anyone been there before? The one in Beijing has lost a lot of its charm over the past 10 years, so I wanted to find another. Thanks!
I’m looking for advice from seasoned travelers about a roughly one-month trip to Japan.
From late October to late November 2026.
We often travel in Southeast Asia but have never been to Japan.
Based on what I’ve read, I’d love to hear your thoughts on:
- Is traveling day-to-day, without booking hotels or trains in advance, possible in Japan?
(I’ve read many travel journals and blogs that say everything was booked way in advance… but that’s not how we usually travel.)
- Will the Japan Rail Pass be worth it for us?
(According to an old simulator, I’m looking at around 400 € for trains compared to 570 € for the JRP.)
Here’s our rough itinerary (which may change):
- Arrival Osaka: 3 nights with Nara
- Hiroshima and Miyajima Island: 3 nights
- Kurashiki or Naoshima: 2 nights
- Himeji: 1 night
- Kyoto: 4 nights
- Kanazawa: 2 nights
- Takayama and Shirakawa-go: 3 nights
- Around Mount Fuji: 3 nights
- Tokyo with Nikko: 6 nights (no theme parks)
Departure from Tokyo
I booked my trip from May 5 to 26, 2027. I’m starting to plan my itinerary and look for hotels (I know it’s early!). While I’ve found some in Seoul and Busan, I’m noticing that elsewhere—like Yeosu—most hotels aren’t available (on Booking.com, for example, almost all are unavailable). AI tells me not to worry because hotels in South Korea only open bookings 6 months in advance, so it’s normal to see most of them unavailable on booking sites.
Could you confirm this for me and, of course, reassure me (!)? Thanks so much.
philippe
We’re back from a one-month trip to China and wanted to share our itinerary. Hopefully, this can give future travelers some ideas for exploring this beautiful country.
Beijing → Temple of Heaven / Forbidden City
Jinshanling → Great Wall
Zhangjiajie → Tianmen Mountain and Heaven’s Gate
Wulingyuan → Avatar Mountains / sandstone pillars
Fenghuang → riverside houses
Ping’an → terraced rice fields
Tiantouzhai → village / rice terraces
Yangshuo → Li River / karst mountains
Shanghai → skyline with the Oriental Pearl Tower
Our travel journal is available on our travel journal, written day by day. You’ll find lots of photos and some travel tips there.
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung.
Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Hi there,
I’d like to do this cycling route over 2 or 3 days. I’m struggling to figure out and find a (good) bike rental that lets me start in Onomichi and drop off in Imabari. Can anyone help with great tips for rentals and accommodations along the route? How do I get back to Onomichi afterward?
I’m back with my detailed itinerary for 20 days in South Korea—it’s my first trip to the country. Our idea is to experience a more rural and cultural Korea. Here’s the rough plan: Seoul for 4 nights at the start and 1 night at the end, Gurye for 4 nights, Suncheon for 4 nights, Namhae for 4 nights, and Gyeongju for 2 nights. The goal is to pick a base and explore the surrounding areas. What do you think of this itinerary? Anything you’d change?
thanks
hi everyone, we're heading out for a 12-day trek in the Japanese Alps. We're bringing freeze-dried meals like we always do. We just found out that importing meat is banned, even freeze-dried. Is that true? We already bought them. They're commercially made freeze-dried meals. Online, it's not specified that they have to be "commercially made" because you can make your own freeze-dried food. And since we've heard they're really strict in Japan, can anyone confirm this for us? thanks
I haven’t found what I’m looking for despite my searches!
For a 15-day trip next spring, I’d like to buy a card (preferably an eSIM, but a physical SIM is fine too) that also lets me make calls in the country (to contact a hotel, a tourist spot, etc.).
You can easily find options just for data, but I haven’t come across any that include calls, texts, or even MMS.
Could you recommend something?
hi there
I’m planning a trip in September—here’s my rough itinerary. What do you think? Is it easy to rent a car to get around between my stops? Thanks so much!
Philippe
StopNightsFull daysSeoul44Gurye (Jirisan)43Suncheon43Namhae43Gyeongju21Seoul1—