Nous projetons ensuite de continuer en bus sur San Pedro de Atacama mais nous aimerions d'abord caler cette première partie. Que pensez-vous des durées prévues sur chaque lieu ? Par exemple, à B.A. n'est-ce pas trop long ? Merci par avance à ceux qui prendront le temps de nous répondre.
Avis sur un projet de trois semaines en Argentine
by Galapagos63
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous,
Est-ce que les voyageurs éclairés pourraient nous donner leur avis sur le projet de voyage suivant (prévu pour décembre) ?
Jour 1 : Vol Paris/Buenos Aires
Jour 2,3 et 4 : Buenos Aires
Jour 5 : Vol de BA sur Ushuaia
Jour 6 et 7 : Ushuaia. Visite du Parc de la Terre de Feu (en excursions organisées)
Jour 8 : vol sur El Calafate.
Jour 9 et 10 : Découverte du parc des glaciers (en excursions organisées ou voiture de loc ?)
Jour 11, 12 et 13 : Trajet sur Torres del Paine (voiture de location)
Jour 14 : Vol sur Posadas
Jour 15 : visite des missions en voiture de loc
Jour 16 : Trajet sur Iguazu
Jour 17 et 18 : visite des deux côtés des chutes (en excursions ?)
Jour 19 : Vol sur Salta
Jour 20 et 21 : Salta Purmamarca.
Nous projetons ensuite de continuer en bus sur San Pedro de Atacama mais nous aimerions d'abord caler cette première partie. Que pensez-vous des durées prévues sur chaque lieu ? Par exemple, à B.A. n'est-ce pas trop long ? Merci par avance à ceux qui prendront le temps de nous répondre.
Nous projetons ensuite de continuer en bus sur San Pedro de Atacama mais nous aimerions d'abord caler cette première partie. Que pensez-vous des durées prévues sur chaque lieu ? Par exemple, à B.A. n'est-ce pas trop long ? Merci par avance à ceux qui prendront le temps de nous répondre.
Bonjour
Beaucoup de choses en si peu de temps:
Pourquoi faire Torres Del Paine en 3 jours, même en voiture vous allez courir, préférez El Chalten.
Pour les missions je garderai ces 2 jours pour Salta! De Même je garderai l'organisé pour Salta (boucle nord ou sud ) surtout qu'il pourrait pleuvoir à cette période.
A Ushuaia pas besoin d'organisé, en 2 jours vous pouvez faire en arrivant vos réservations visite du canal de Beagle et du musée maritime .. et prendre le temps de découvrir la ville, le lendemain prenez le bus pour Torres Del Paine et faites une randonnée.
A El Calafate, faire todos glacieres en organisé et prendre un pac: Périto, les passerelles et l'aller retour à El Chalten.
Bonne prépa
Plus de renseignements sur mon carnet de voyage!
C'est par ici
C'est par ici
marimijean
Argentine octobre novembre 2012:
http://voyageforum.com/forum/voyage_en_argentine_2_retraites_5_grands_sauts_puces_travers_immense_pays_subl_D5763980/
Merci beaucoup de votre réponse Marimichelle. Je vais revoir tout ça et me brancher de ce pas sur votre site.
Bonjour,
Poules chutes d Iguazu, le côté brésil est un peu moins sympa et seulement 1/2 journée par contre quand même intéressant puisqu'il donne une vue globale sur les chutes côté argentine. Le côté argentine, plus de balade, installations sympa, de quoi se balader, bien 1 journée. Le mieux, je pense, c'est de faire d'abord une première journée côté brésil et ensuite le côté argentin. Pas besoin de prendre une excursion organisée. Notre hôtel était côté argentine, on a pris un bus qui faisait la liaison jusqu'au côté brésil, balade très simple à travers le parc. Idem côté argentin, beaucoup de bus pour le parc et très simple à faire seul. Idem pour le perito moreno bus qui s'y rend et fais un premier arrêt pour le tour en bateau et un deuxième pour la zone des passerelles.
Poules chutes d Iguazu, le côté brésil est un peu moins sympa et seulement 1/2 journée par contre quand même intéressant puisqu'il donne une vue globale sur les chutes côté argentine. Le côté argentine, plus de balade, installations sympa, de quoi se balader, bien 1 journée. Le mieux, je pense, c'est de faire d'abord une première journée côté brésil et ensuite le côté argentin. Pas besoin de prendre une excursion organisée. Notre hôtel était côté argentine, on a pris un bus qui faisait la liaison jusqu'au côté brésil, balade très simple à travers le parc. Idem côté argentin, beaucoup de bus pour le parc et très simple à faire seul. Idem pour le perito moreno bus qui s'y rend et fais un premier arrêt pour le tour en bateau et un deuxième pour la zone des passerelles.
Bonjour,
Un voyage beaucoup trop dense et serré à mon goût - mais nous sommes des voyageurs lambinards ! Donc soit j'enlèverai des étapes, soit j'éviterai d'ajouter d'autres choses et prendrai plus de temps sur cette partie.
Pour vous faire une idée et avoir des infos multiples et varriées, vous pouvez parcourir nos carnets Patagonie et NOA/Bolivie/SPA
Belle suite de prépa...
Un voyage beaucoup trop dense et serré à mon goût - mais nous sommes des voyageurs lambinards ! Donc soit j'enlèverai des étapes, soit j'éviterai d'ajouter d'autres choses et prendrai plus de temps sur cette partie.
Pour vous faire une idée et avoir des infos multiples et varriées, vous pouvez parcourir nos carnets Patagonie et NOA/Bolivie/SPA
Belle suite de prépa...
Désolé j'ai fait une erreur
A Ushuaia il ne faut pas lire Torrès Del Paine, mais Parc Del Fuego!
C'est toujours très dur au départ de faire un parcours et on est obligé de faire des coupes tant le pays est immense!
Bonne lecture et bonne réflexion
marimijean
Argentine octobre novembre 2012:
http://voyageforum.com/forum/voyage_en_argentine_2_retraites_5_grands_sauts_puces_travers_immense_pays_subl_D5763980/
Merci Marimichelle. J'avais rectifié le lapsus. Effectivement, c'est un peu dur de programmer quelque chose qui va tenir la route. On a à la fois envie de tout voir tant les photos que l'on voie sur les différents blogs sont belles mais en même temps, partir si loin pour courir tout le temps et ne faire que survoler, est-ce la peine ? En tout cas, avec les différents conseils reçus, nous allons essayer de bien préparer notre voyage.
Bon week-end !
Bonjour,
merci à tous pour vos réponses et vos conseils ! Nous allons en tenir compte et essayer de préparer un beau voyage. Les photos de vos différents sites font rêver et nous avons hâte d'y être !
Bon week-end à tous 🙂
Bonjour,
Comme je le ressasse à longueur de posts, 3 semaines, c'est court donc uniquement 3 à 4 provinces pas plus !
A savoir :
- 1) prendre uniquement bus et non avion (au moins 50% d'economiser) - 2 ) Louer toujours une voiture sur place pour visiter une province. Pas de voiture = pas de circuit agreable ! - 3) 3 semaines, par exemple. Jours 1/2/3 : Buenos Aires 3 jours pour se remettre voyage décalage saison et horaire et commencer a comprendre comment marche le pays Jour 4 : Bus : Buenos Aires - Posadas (de nuit) Jours 5/6/7/8/9/10/11 : Posadas, location de voiture pour au moins 1 semaine circuit dans province de Misiones (dont chutes iguazu) puis rendre voiture a Posadas. va voir : http://www.petitherge.com/article-6560435.html Jour 12 : Bus : Posadas - Tucuman (de nuit) Jour 13/14/15/16/17/18/19 Tucuman, meme stysteme, location de voiture pour au moins 7 jours. Visite province Tucuman, Salta et Jujuy, en boucle, vous rendez votre votre à Tucuman. http://www.petitherge.com/article-19808081.html Jour 20 : bus Tucuman - Buenos Aires Nuit 20 : Buenos Aires Jour 21 : Retour Buenos Aires - France avion
Aucun avion, tout en bus, location voiture indispensable, tout acheter en pesos sur place au change parallèle (bus, location de voiture, hotel etc...)
A bientot !
Herge ! www.petitherge.com
Comme je le ressasse à longueur de posts, 3 semaines, c'est court donc uniquement 3 à 4 provinces pas plus !
A savoir :
- 1) prendre uniquement bus et non avion (au moins 50% d'economiser) - 2 ) Louer toujours une voiture sur place pour visiter une province. Pas de voiture = pas de circuit agreable ! - 3) 3 semaines, par exemple. Jours 1/2/3 : Buenos Aires 3 jours pour se remettre voyage décalage saison et horaire et commencer a comprendre comment marche le pays Jour 4 : Bus : Buenos Aires - Posadas (de nuit) Jours 5/6/7/8/9/10/11 : Posadas, location de voiture pour au moins 1 semaine circuit dans province de Misiones (dont chutes iguazu) puis rendre voiture a Posadas. va voir : http://www.petitherge.com/article-6560435.html Jour 12 : Bus : Posadas - Tucuman (de nuit) Jour 13/14/15/16/17/18/19 Tucuman, meme stysteme, location de voiture pour au moins 7 jours. Visite province Tucuman, Salta et Jujuy, en boucle, vous rendez votre votre à Tucuman. http://www.petitherge.com/article-19808081.html Jour 20 : bus Tucuman - Buenos Aires Nuit 20 : Buenos Aires Jour 21 : Retour Buenos Aires - France avion
Aucun avion, tout en bus, location voiture indispensable, tout acheter en pesos sur place au change parallèle (bus, location de voiture, hotel etc...)
A bientot !
Herge ! www.petitherge.com
Tout sur l Argentine, et completé 24h/24h depuis le 29 oct 2005
http://www.petitherge.com/
Bonjour,
Une voiture ou pas c'est une question de perception individuelle. Je n'ai pas la même perception que toi sur le "sans voiture". Nous n'en avons pas loué, pour notre parcours en août 2012, et nous avons fortement apprécié notre voyage. Bien sûr, une voiture nous aurait donné d'autres possibles mais nous avons réussi à faire ce que nous voulions sans..
Une voiture ou pas c'est une question de perception individuelle. Je n'ai pas la même perception que toi sur le "sans voiture". Nous n'en avons pas loué, pour notre parcours en août 2012, et nous avons fortement apprécié notre voyage. Bien sûr, une voiture nous aurait donné d'autres possibles mais nous avons réussi à faire ce que nous voulions sans..
Bonjour,
et merci pour vos conseils. Comme vous le dites, 3 semaines c'est bien court et c'est pour cette raison qu'on privilégie l'avion par rapport au bus. Mais, on n'en est qu'à la toute première phase de préparation et on verra ce qu'on pourra faire lorsqu'on aura affiné notre budget.
En tout cas merci.
Je vais regarder attentivement les sites de tous ceux qui nous ont répondu car à vue de nez, il y a des foules de choses très intéressantes dont on peut s'inspirer. Merci à tous. 😉
Bonjour
Comme nous tous, c'est un grand dilemme de faire des choix. L'important c'est de faire en fonction de ses envies. On ne sait pas si on pourra revenir ou pas! En tous les cas il y a deux sites unique qu'il faut voir:
Ce sont les chutes d'Iguazù! et les glaciers de El Calafate! Et après il y a les sites mytiques comme Ushuaia pour le bout du monde(mais pas si exceptionnel) les Andes avec l'Aconcagua et les paysages magnifiques autour de Salta, La routa 40! Et bien d'autres endroits magnifiques bien sur!
Donc à travers tout ça en fonction du temps et du budget se faire plaisir semble prioritaire!
Bonne continuation de prépa
marimijean
Argentine octobre novembre 2012:
http://voyageforum.com/forum/voyage_en_argentine_2_retraites_5_grands_sauts_puces_travers_immense_pays_subl_D5763980/
Bonjour,
C'est vrai que le choix est difficile mais les chutes d'Iguazu et les glaciers font effectivement partie des endroits que nous voulons absolument voir. Si notre budget était trop serré, on ferait peut-être l'impasse sur Ushuaia mais on ne la fera pas sur le NOA.
Votre carnet de voyage est super !
Merci
Bonjour Galapagos !
Salta - Ushuaia = 5.000 km
Montreal - Cuba = 5.000 km
Quand tu vas passer que 2 ou 3 semaines au Quebec tu ne vas pas à la Havanne Pour ici en Argentine, c'est pareil, si tu n'a que 3 semaines et si tu vas dans le NOA, tu ne vas pas en Terre de Feu.
Tout est possible aujourd'hui en avion, en moins de 5 ou 6 heures tu peux passer d'une zone tropicale au froid le plus intense. La question est de voyager pour connaitre et pour s’imprégner d'un endroit, pas de faire du Km pour faire du Km. La qualité d'un voyage ou d'un séjour ne se calcule pas en km parcouru. Un voyage n'est pas non plus une course à la consommation de spots. Chaque personne est différente, chaque voyage l'est aussi. Ce n'est pas parce Pierre aime faire ça et s'est éclaté en Thailnade que Marcel doit faire de même. Sur ce forum tu vas avoir des centaines d'avis (dont le mien), ce qui est sur c'est que tu dois choisir ce qu'il te plait, aller la ou tu veux et surtout à ton propre rythme. Savoir si le NOA ce "fait" en 5 jours, en 10 jours ou un mois, chacun y va de son avis et de son rythme.
Connaitre l'avis des autres est intéressant mais surtout sache plutôt ce que toi tu veux et ce que tu attends de tes 21 jours de voyage. Quand on voyage, on est toujours à la recherche de quelque chose... "L'impasse" n'existe pas, c'est comme le verre a moitié vide ou plein. L'impasse c'est négatif. Ne commence pas déjà à avoir des regrets alors que tu n'es même pas encore partie. Tu passes 3 semaines et tu va voir des choses magiques et exceptionnelles quelque soit l'endroit ou tu seras. Ne commence pas a dire, "oui mais je vais raté ceci ou cela".... tu ne fais pas des courses dans un supermarché, ce n'est pas un produit que tu achètes. Le voyage, tu vas le vivre comme tu le veux, ce voyage c'est le tien et tu verras surement des choses intéressantes la ou les autres ne verront rien.
A bientôt !
Herge ! www.petitherge.com
Salta - Ushuaia = 5.000 km
Montreal - Cuba = 5.000 km
Quand tu vas passer que 2 ou 3 semaines au Quebec tu ne vas pas à la Havanne Pour ici en Argentine, c'est pareil, si tu n'a que 3 semaines et si tu vas dans le NOA, tu ne vas pas en Terre de Feu.
Tout est possible aujourd'hui en avion, en moins de 5 ou 6 heures tu peux passer d'une zone tropicale au froid le plus intense. La question est de voyager pour connaitre et pour s’imprégner d'un endroit, pas de faire du Km pour faire du Km. La qualité d'un voyage ou d'un séjour ne se calcule pas en km parcouru. Un voyage n'est pas non plus une course à la consommation de spots. Chaque personne est différente, chaque voyage l'est aussi. Ce n'est pas parce Pierre aime faire ça et s'est éclaté en Thailnade que Marcel doit faire de même. Sur ce forum tu vas avoir des centaines d'avis (dont le mien), ce qui est sur c'est que tu dois choisir ce qu'il te plait, aller la ou tu veux et surtout à ton propre rythme. Savoir si le NOA ce "fait" en 5 jours, en 10 jours ou un mois, chacun y va de son avis et de son rythme.
Connaitre l'avis des autres est intéressant mais surtout sache plutôt ce que toi tu veux et ce que tu attends de tes 21 jours de voyage. Quand on voyage, on est toujours à la recherche de quelque chose... "L'impasse" n'existe pas, c'est comme le verre a moitié vide ou plein. L'impasse c'est négatif. Ne commence pas déjà à avoir des regrets alors que tu n'es même pas encore partie. Tu passes 3 semaines et tu va voir des choses magiques et exceptionnelles quelque soit l'endroit ou tu seras. Ne commence pas a dire, "oui mais je vais raté ceci ou cela".... tu ne fais pas des courses dans un supermarché, ce n'est pas un produit que tu achètes. Le voyage, tu vas le vivre comme tu le veux, ce voyage c'est le tien et tu verras surement des choses intéressantes la ou les autres ne verront rien.
A bientôt !
Herge ! www.petitherge.com
Tout sur l Argentine, et completé 24h/24h depuis le 29 oct 2005
http://www.petitherge.com/
Bonjour
Merci pour ton commentaire!
j'ai fait ce carnet pour que d'autres personnes puissent avoir envie de visiter ce magnifique pays et qu'il puisse choisir ce qui lui convient le mieux; Tu as beaucoup d'autres carnets Madikéra m'a beaucoup aidé et bien d'autres aussi!
Bonne prépa
marimijean
Argentine octobre novembre 2012:
http://voyageforum.com/forum/voyage_en_argentine_2_retraites_5_grands_sauts_puces_travers_immense_pays_subl_D5763980/
Malheureusement, nombre de voyageurs confondent voyage et course contre la montre. on n a plus le temps de prendre le temps.
mais heureusement, il existe les imprevus ( le grain de sable). greve des chauffeurs de bus, perte de valise, cartes de credit qui fonctionnent pas... cela fait partie aussi du voyage. generalement c est ces moments la qu on se souvient.
mais heureusement, il existe les imprevus ( le grain de sable). greve des chauffeurs de bus, perte de valise, cartes de credit qui fonctionnent pas... cela fait partie aussi du voyage. generalement c est ces moments la qu on se souvient.
Il y a 2 façons de contrôler les gens: en leur faisant peur et en les démoralisant. ( Sicko)
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So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
Below is our draft itinerary (with questions at each stop):
29/11: France → Colombia. Overnight in Bogotá. 30/11: Exploring Bogotá: La Candelaria and Montserrate. 01/12: Gold Museum (closed on Mondays). Drive to Zipaquirá (1.5 hrs) to visit the Salt Cathedral. Then drive to Villa de Leyva (3 hrs). Explore the town. Overnight in Villa de Leyva. 02/12: Return to Bogotá via Laguna de Guatavita (5 hrs). Is it worth the detour? Overnight in Bogotá. 03/12: Flight to Pereira. Drive to Salento. Overnight in Salento. 04/12: Cocora Valley (hike among the wax palms) followed by a drive around the area. Are there any waterfalls or other sights nearby? 05/12: Visit a coffee finca—any recommendations? Then explore the surroundings: Filandia, Manizales, waterfalls? Hot springs? Which ones? 06/12: Flight to Medellín. 07/12: Exploring Medellín: Centro, Plaza Botero, Comuna 13. How do you visit Comuna 13? Is it easy to get around Medellín? Metro? Buses? 08/12: Drive to Guatapé (2 hrs). Visit the town, stroll around the lake, then El Peñol. Overnight in Guatapé. 09/12: Return to Medellín. 10/12: Flight to Santa Marta. Drive to a hotel near Tayrona Park. 11/12: Tayrona—El Zaino entrance. 12/12: Tayrona—Palangana entrance, then Bahia Concha and Santa Marta. What do you think? 13/12: Drive to Minca (45 mins). Can we reach the village by car? Pozo Azul and Marinka waterfalls. Overnight in Minca (or back in Tayrona?). 14/12: Drive to Puerto Nao (5 hrs). Stop in Ciénaga on the way + boat tour in Nueva Venecia and/or Buena Vista? Not enough time? Overnight in Puerto Nao. 15/12: Exploring Cartagena: Centro, Getsemaní, the walls + La Boquilla if we have time. 16/12: La Boquilla (is it really worth it?) if we didn’t have time yesterday, then back to the beach. 17/12: Return to France.
So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
Hi there, I’ll be in Brazil from December 10th to the end of February.
I’ve sketched out a rough itinerary but I’m not sure how to arrange it—considering the climate, year-end holidays, and Carnival.
Basically, I’m thinking of the Amazon, the Northeast coast with Lençóis Maranhenses National Park (but skipping Chapada Diamantina),
Ouro Preto, Paraty, and Ilha Grande—but no Rio visit.
Is this doable in 3 months?
Which direction should I take for this itinerary?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone, does anyone know the agency Ventura Travel Agency (not ventura travel)? After lots of research and quotes, it’s the only one offering Uyuni at a reasonable price while meeting all the criteria: transfer to the border, private-room accommodation, and a very fair rate. Other agencies or guides either offer shared rooms, no border transfer, or prices that are way too high. But I’d love to hear some reviews about this agency. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
We're planning a trip to Chile to visit the Atacama Desert and then head toward Putre, Lauca, Salar de Surire, etc.
Which would be the better time to go, April or November?
Is an SUV enough?
Looking forward to your tips!
Hi, I'm looking for a local agency in Uyuni to do the trip and tours from Uyuni to San Pedro de Atacama. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Hi there,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Hi everyone, French travelers in Chile—what credit cards do you use for your various car rentals in the country? I’m traveling in September and was planning to switch my regular debit card (a VISA PREMIER in deferred debit mode) for the deposit guarantee.
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks
Hi there!
I’m putting together my itinerary for Brazil, looking for beautiful natural spots with wildlife, flora, and great hikes...
I’ve come across the Cananeia / Super Agui / Ilha do Mel region and the PETAR / Intervales / Alto Ribeira area.
Has anyone here been to these places? If so, do you have any recommendations for accommodations and activities?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
Olivier 🌍
Hello,
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?