Quel vélo choisir pour voyager avec des sacoches?
by Hélaine34
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Pour parcourir la france. Que me conseillez-vous ? Titane ? Carbone ? Marque ? Je voudrais du solide ... et léger bien sûr ! Je suis prête à y mettre le prix.
Pouvez-vous me conseiller ? merci d'avance. Hélène
"On croit qu'on fait un voyage mais c'est le voyage qui vous fait et vous défait."
Nicolas Bouvier. L'usage du monde
Ce forum regorge de sujet à ce propos.
Bonne lecture.
http://voyageforum.com/...;recherche_colonne=1
Salut !
Le sujet a pas mal été traité dans divers topic (je lance la première pierre :D edit : ah non, la deuxième... grillé ;) ).
Mais sinon vu ton objectif, prendre un cadre en alu avec des roues de 28" n'est pas inimaginable. Il existe des modèles prévus pour la randonnée chez chaque constructeur quasiment (Giant Expedition RS0, Orbea Artea, ...) qui tournent autour de 1500 €. Autrement tu peux prendre un vélo léger de base (comme un Giant CRS : 12kg +/-, par exemple) et lui ajouter des porte-bagages arrières (et avant si besoin), ce qui peut être largement suffisant.
Mais sinon vu ton objectif, prendre un cadre en alu avec des roues de 28" n'est pas inimaginable. Il existe des modèles prévus pour la randonnée chez chaque constructeur quasiment (Giant Expedition RS0, Orbea Artea, ...) qui tournent autour de 1500 €. Autrement tu peux prendre un vélo léger de base (comme un Giant CRS : 12kg +/-, par exemple) et lui ajouter des porte-bagages arrières (et avant si besoin), ce qui peut être largement suffisant.
2010 : Grenoble -> Lyon -> Montpellier à vélo
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2012 : Grenoble -> Royan (côte Atlantique) en trike et en groupe (avec des cyclos)
2013 : Grenoble -> Laguiole en vélo de route et en groupe (avec des cyclos)
Merci beaucoup, je vais aller voir les modèles que tu me conseilles. Sinon, est-ce inimaginable, d'après toi, de prendre un vélo en carbone (pour le poids of course) ? Car en alu je les vois (Lapierre) à 12, 13 kg, je trouve cela encore lourd... merci d'avance. De mon côté je vais voir les modèles que tu m'indiques !
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Je ne peux pas vraiment dire quoique ce soit pour les vélos en carbone, mais d'autres sauront sans doute te conseiller.
A vrai dire, mon vélo actuel (complètement inadapté à la rando vélo : un b'twin 7) pèse 19.8kg à vide... Autant dire qu'un vélo de 12kg j'en rêve =D (je lorgne sur celui-ci http://www.veloland-isere.com/kalkhoff__select_pro_27-g_deore__p27259.html ) Faut pas non plus oublier que tu vas transporter avec toi une dizaine de kg de bagages et que par conséquent ça atténue les avantages d'un poids fixe faible. (pas beaucoup de différence entre 18 et 22kg au final, chargé complètement) Et puis du moment que t'as des bonnes vitesses pour monter lentement mais sûrement et sans fatigue, ça fait l'affaire.
A vrai dire, mon vélo actuel (complètement inadapté à la rando vélo : un b'twin 7) pèse 19.8kg à vide... Autant dire qu'un vélo de 12kg j'en rêve =D (je lorgne sur celui-ci http://www.veloland-isere.com/kalkhoff__select_pro_27-g_deore__p27259.html ) Faut pas non plus oublier que tu vas transporter avec toi une dizaine de kg de bagages et que par conséquent ça atténue les avantages d'un poids fixe faible. (pas beaucoup de différence entre 18 et 22kg au final, chargé complètement) Et puis du moment que t'as des bonnes vitesses pour monter lentement mais sûrement et sans fatigue, ça fait l'affaire.
2010 : Grenoble -> Lyon -> Montpellier à vélo
2011 : Grenoble -> Strasbourg en trike
2012 : Grenoble -> Royan (côte Atlantique) en trike et en groupe (avec des cyclos)
2013 : Grenoble -> Laguiole en vélo de route et en groupe (avec des cyclos)
titane carbone ?
non non !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
pour ma part c'est une bete 1800 euros tout équipée et du costo et du rendement on peut faire a moins cher (modelé de base 400 euros)
http://cbandiera.free.fr/matos/fanette.php
pour ma part c'est une bete 1800 euros tout équipée et du costo et du rendement on peut faire a moins cher (modelé de base 400 euros)
http://cbandiera.free.fr/matos/fanette.php
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
J'ai regardé celui que tu lorgnes : c'est un cadre en carbone ?...
"On croit qu'on fait un voyage mais c'est le voyage qui vous fait et vous défait."
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Non le cadre est en alu, mais la fourche avant en carbone. Le tout pour 12.6 kg
2010 : Grenoble -> Lyon -> Montpellier à vélo
2011 : Grenoble -> Strasbourg en trike
2012 : Grenoble -> Royan (côte Atlantique) en trike et en groupe (avec des cyclos)
2013 : Grenoble -> Laguiole en vélo de route et en groupe (avec des cyclos)
...un b'twin 7) pèse 19.8kg à vide...
Ah oui, quand même. Ils n'ont pas été avare sur la matière chez Decathlon 😄 C'est le poids d'un VTT de descente (le mien fait 19kg environ avec pneus en 2.5)
Enfin bon, tu ne dois vraiment le sentir qu'en montée, et avec les bons développement ça passe quand même.
Ah oui, quand même. Ils n'ont pas été avare sur la matière chez Decathlon 😄 C'est le poids d'un VTT de descente (le mien fait 19kg environ avec pneus en 2.5)
Enfin bon, tu ne dois vraiment le sentir qu'en montée, et avec les bons développement ça passe quand même.
Ouais c'est clair question poids c'est légèrement abusé... pourtant je n'ai rajouté "que" le pote-bagage arrière (de marque b'twin of course, je vais jusqu'au bout de ma bêtise)...
J'ai fait des tests tout en étant relativement chargé (32kg en tout : vélo + bagages) et j'ai beau réussir à monter, je ressens quand même l'effort. Le développement le plus facile est de 28 pignons sur le pédalier par 28 pignons à l'arrière, et c'est vraiment trop élevé. Je pense que je vais faire changer le pédalier pour pouvoir avoir un plateau de 22 pignons pour me faciliter la vie. Cela dit sur du plat effectivement ça me laisse indifférent, je traîne l'ensemble sans forcer à 24 km/h (pas chargé en mode fitness je tourne autour de 30km/h).
J'ai fait des tests tout en étant relativement chargé (32kg en tout : vélo + bagages) et j'ai beau réussir à monter, je ressens quand même l'effort. Le développement le plus facile est de 28 pignons sur le pédalier par 28 pignons à l'arrière, et c'est vraiment trop élevé. Je pense que je vais faire changer le pédalier pour pouvoir avoir un plateau de 22 pignons pour me faciliter la vie. Cela dit sur du plat effectivement ça me laisse indifférent, je traîne l'ensemble sans forcer à 24 km/h (pas chargé en mode fitness je tourne autour de 30km/h).
2010 : Grenoble -> Lyon -> Montpellier à vélo
2011 : Grenoble -> Strasbourg en trike
2012 : Grenoble -> Royan (côte Atlantique) en trike et en groupe (avec des cyclos)
2013 : Grenoble -> Laguiole en vélo de route et en groupe (avec des cyclos)
faut oublier un peu les notions de vitesse en randonnée
un bon vtt avec des pneus de route fera l'affaire
mais plus jeune encore couraillon je roulais avec fanny poids TTC 28-30 kg
http://cbandiera.free.fr/monvelo
et avec elle le Tour de france
http://cbandiera.free.fr/tdfcyclo/
mais a présent avec fanette , 30-35 kg ttc j'iote pour de la rando moins couraillone et ca va bien le glaude
mais plus jeune encore couraillon je roulais avec fanny poids TTC 28-30 kg
http://cbandiera.free.fr/monvelo
et avec elle le Tour de france
http://cbandiera.free.fr/tdfcyclo/
mais a présent avec fanette , 30-35 kg ttc j'iote pour de la rando moins couraillone et ca va bien le glaude
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
Oui je suis complètement d'accord ! Je me mettais en condition de test uniquement, pour trouver mes limites en performance (pour faire la différence entre chargé et pas chargé)... mais j'ai du mal à limiter ma vitesse, c'en est limite gênant (quand je vois mon compteur descendre en dessous de 20 j'ai le sentiment de me traîner.. alors que c'est justement ça qui est bon !).
Bref quand je partirai faudra que je sache me limiter pour profiter le plus possible, j'ai trop tendance à vouloir accélérer inutilement...
Mais tu seras d'accord avec moi sur le fait qu'il faut pouvoir mouliner un maximum si on veut monter lentement, hors avec le 28x28 avec des roues de 28" (overdose) que je me traîne je mouline pas vraiment, ça reste un peu lourd dans les jambes.
Bref quand je partirai faudra que je sache me limiter pour profiter le plus possible, j'ai trop tendance à vouloir accélérer inutilement...
Mais tu seras d'accord avec moi sur le fait qu'il faut pouvoir mouliner un maximum si on veut monter lentement, hors avec le 28x28 avec des roues de 28" (overdose) que je me traîne je mouline pas vraiment, ça reste un peu lourd dans les jambes.
2010 : Grenoble -> Lyon -> Montpellier à vélo
2011 : Grenoble -> Strasbourg en trike
2012 : Grenoble -> Royan (côte Atlantique) en trike et en groupe (avec des cyclos)
2013 : Grenoble -> Laguiole en vélo de route et en groupe (avec des cyclos)
ene effet
abec fanny javais 30*26 et charé dans les cols c'eatit svt le calvaire
avec fanette 22*32 (22 a l'avant, le monte mieux souvent a 6-7 km / h , et sans en chier trop
moi aussi un peu coureur, les premiers jours je regarde le compteur, ensuite j'oublie claude
moi aussi un peu coureur, les premiers jours je regarde le compteur, ensuite j'oublie claude
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
... pourtant je n'ai rajouté "que" le pote-bagage arrière (de marque b'twin of course, je vais jusqu'au bout de ma bêtise)...
Bêtise ? Monter un vélo d'une grande marque ou sur mesure avec des porte bagage de grande marque représente un sacré budget...que l'on a pas forcement ou que l'on ne souhaite pas mettre la dedans. Si tu peux voyager avec ce que tu as, c'est déjà pas mal non?
Bêtise ? Monter un vélo d'une grande marque ou sur mesure avec des porte bagage de grande marque représente un sacré budget...que l'on a pas forcement ou que l'on ne souhaite pas mettre la dedans. Si tu peux voyager avec ce que tu as, c'est déjà pas mal non?
Voui c'est sûr, mais en fait je me suis rendu compte après coup qu'il existait d'autres modèles de porte-bagage qui au final n'était pas vraiment beaucoup plus cher, mais bien plus légers. J'ai oublié le simple principe qu'il faut faire jouer la concurrence :p
2010 : Grenoble -> Lyon -> Montpellier à vélo
2011 : Grenoble -> Strasbourg en trike
2012 : Grenoble -> Royan (côte Atlantique) en trike et en groupe (avec des cyclos)
2013 : Grenoble -> Laguiole en vélo de route et en groupe (avec des cyclos)
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Nath
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires. I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time). I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral. I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough? And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Nath
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Heinz Stucke has passed away.
He never stopped traveling the world since 1962.
So sad.
https://www.facebook.com/heinzstucke
https://www.facebook.com/heinzstucke
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hello,
We’d like to go on a 3- to 4-month bike trip starting in December, crossing from Assam (northeast India) to New Delhi via Nepal.
Are there routes with light traffic along the Brahmaputra and through Nepal?
We’re also looking for any info on accommodations, wild camping, local interactions, etc.
Thanks,
Michel
Hi there,
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.







