Quinze jours en Péloponnèse deuxième quinzaine de septembre
by Ghighi17
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Bonjour a tous
Nouvelle sur ce forum je m'adresse à vous afin de trouver un itinéraire intéressant qui englobe le culturel et la détente. Nous partons en couple et nous voulons louer une voiture pour être libres.
Nous arrivons à Athènes le 13 septembre (ville que nous avons déjà visitée il y a quelques années) nous aimerions partir directement pour le Péloponnèse que nous ne connaissons pas et en visiter le maximum.
Nous restons 15 jours.
J'espère profiter de votre expérience en tant qu’itinéraire, logement et bon petit restos tout ça dans un prix qui reste raisonnable.
D'avance je vous remercie de votre aide
Parter directement de l'aéroport pour Nauplie rester y de 2 à 3 jours
visite de Mycénes , Epidaure , la cote de l'Argolide et éventuellement une excursion journée sur l'ile d'hydra au départ d'Ermioni
de la route vers Mystra via Léonidion et le massif du Parnon halte pour le déjeunner dans le village de Kosmas
le lendemain visite de Mystra tot le matin et du musée de l'olive à Sparte
de la 1 ou 2 journée pour visiter Monenvassia et les plages d'Elafonissos
puis 1 à 3 journée pour visiter le Magne se baser à Aréopoli par ex pour faire le tour du Magne sud avec visite des grottes de Dirou
de la gagner Pylos dans l'ouest péloponése 2 jours visite de Koroni et Methoni , le palais de Nestor , l'ancienne Mésséne
puis rejoindre les villages d'Arcadie Stemitsa par ex ou , Dimitsana visites des gorges du Lousios du temple de Basae
apres il est temps de joindre Olympie puis de revenir sur Athènes en visitant éventuellement kalavryta , et de s'arreter pour visiter l'Akro Corinthe
de la route vers Mystra via Léonidion et le massif du Parnon halte pour le déjeunner dans le village de Kosmas
le lendemain visite de Mystra tot le matin et du musée de l'olive à Sparte
de la 1 ou 2 journée pour visiter Monenvassia et les plages d'Elafonissos
puis 1 à 3 journée pour visiter le Magne se baser à Aréopoli par ex pour faire le tour du Magne sud avec visite des grottes de Dirou
de la gagner Pylos dans l'ouest péloponése 2 jours visite de Koroni et Methoni , le palais de Nestor , l'ancienne Mésséne
puis rejoindre les villages d'Arcadie Stemitsa par ex ou , Dimitsana visites des gorges du Lousios du temple de Basae
apres il est temps de joindre Olympie puis de revenir sur Athènes en visitant éventuellement kalavryta , et de s'arreter pour visiter l'Akro Corinthe
Hasta la vista
ces dernieres années depuis 2010 je me suis contenté du Magne et de la Laconie
pas forcément dans des petits budget 😎 entre 70 et 100 euros par nuit mes souvenirs du reste du péloponése sont donc assez anciens
sinon pour la Gréce j'utilise à la fois le Guide Lonely planet et Booking.com en essayant de traiter le plus souvent directement avec les hoteliers
en Septembre vous n'aurez pas besoin de réservation à l'avance , vous pouvez réserver à l'avance si vous le souhaiter mais c'est loin d'etre obligatoire
sinon pour la Gréce j'utilise à la fois le Guide Lonely planet et Booking.com en essayant de traiter le plus souvent directement avec les hoteliers
en Septembre vous n'aurez pas besoin de réservation à l'avance , vous pouvez réserver à l'avance si vous le souhaiter mais c'est loin d'etre obligatoire
Hasta la vista
Il y a quelques années j'ai fait l'itinéraire suivant sur une semaine seulement
Athene, Mycene (via Epidaure), Sparte, Olympie, Naupacte, Delphe et Athene
Je garde un excellent souvenir de l'hotel Petite Planete à Mycene (http://www.petite-planet.gr/fr/activities_fr.html). Au milieu des orangers, olive, artichauds, orange du jardin. Accueil très convivial. Au dessus de Sparte nous avions été à l'Antanoma hotel à Anavriti (au milieu de la montagne, très rustique) Le Pelops Hotel à Olympie avait un bon accueil, ainsi que le varonos hotel à Delphe.
Je suis à ta disposition pour répondre à tes questions.
Athene, Mycene (via Epidaure), Sparte, Olympie, Naupacte, Delphe et Athene
Je garde un excellent souvenir de l'hotel Petite Planete à Mycene (http://www.petite-planet.gr/fr/activities_fr.html). Au milieu des orangers, olive, artichauds, orange du jardin. Accueil très convivial. Au dessus de Sparte nous avions été à l'Antanoma hotel à Anavriti (au milieu de la montagne, très rustique) Le Pelops Hotel à Olympie avait un bon accueil, ainsi que le varonos hotel à Delphe.
Je suis à ta disposition pour répondre à tes questions.
Christian
https://twitter.com/Criscriscus
Des photos et adresses sur mon blog:
http://cblog.eklablog.com
Kalispera Christian
est tu sur du nom de l'hôtel à Anavryti ?
Nous y sommes passés en Juin et apparemment l'unique Hôtel l'hôtel Anavryti à l'entrée à gauche du village avait fermé fin 2011
on a fait au départ du village une bonne journée de randonnée c'était plus que calme 😉
est tu sur du nom de l'hôtel à Anavryti ?
Nous y sommes passés en Juin et apparemment l'unique Hôtel l'hôtel Anavryti à l'entrée à gauche du village avait fermé fin 2011
on a fait au départ du village une bonne journée de randonnée c'était plus que calme 😉
Hasta la vista
Je trouve la proposition de Magne très équilibrée. Je te laisse jeter un oeil à mon blog pour ce qui est de la région de Nauplie. Tu y trouveras des suggestions de visites.
Bonnes vacances
Mandeville
http://mesescapadesengrece.blogspot.com
J'ai ete dans cet hotel en 2006. Cela ressemblait plus à un gite dans une ferme. C'était très rustique ...et calme. Une bonne expérience loin des circuits touristiques. Désolé qu'il soit fermé.
Christian
https://twitter.com/Criscriscus
Des photos et adresses sur mon blog:
http://cblog.eklablog.com
Notre dernier séjour en Grèce dans les Cyclades date de 2007, nous voyageons simplement en trouvant nos hébergements quand nous sommes dans la ville, nous emportons toujours Lonely planet ou le guide du routard qui nous servent pour les adresses parfois !!!!!!!!!
Nous aimons beaucoup l'Asie l'Inde en particulier mais en 2009 nous sommes partis au Vietnam et j'ai adoré.
Jusquà maintenant la grèce était notre destination pour du repos et le dépaysement, les Cyclades non touristiques etaient parfaites mais cette année nous avons besoin de culture et de détente après un été bien rempli, ton itinéraire me semble parfait pour remplir nos têtes de culture et reposer notre corps sur les plages.
Un grand merci je ne manquerai pas de t'écrire dès notre retour.
Bonsoir Dominique
Avant de m'inscrire je suis allée sur ton site mais je ne veux surtout pas voyager en camping car pour être parckée dans des emplacements mais c'est grâce à ton site que je me suis inscrite sur ce forum tu m'as donné envie de communiquer. Merci à toi et tes renseignements complémentaires sont les bienvenus.
nos adresses restaurants récentes
à Kardamily Lena taverne près de la mer uniquement en plat du jour fait aussi hôtel ( pas testé )
les Dyoscures à la sortie sud du village
à Aréopoli Barba Petros une taverne familiale dans la rue entre la nouvelle place et l'église des Taxiarques on y va depuis 2006 sur les conseils des patrons de la guest house Londas
à Sparte un peu plus chic mais air conditionné le restaurant de l'hôtel Maniatis
prés de Mystra dans le village de Pikoulianika la taverne de la guest house Mazaraki en arrière du village et non continue à l'hôtel ( fermé Lundi Mardi et Dimanche soir )
à Aréopoli Barba Petros une taverne familiale dans la rue entre la nouvelle place et l'église des Taxiarques on y va depuis 2006 sur les conseils des patrons de la guest house Londas
à Sparte un peu plus chic mais air conditionné le restaurant de l'hôtel Maniatis
prés de Mystra dans le village de Pikoulianika la taverne de la guest house Mazaraki en arrière du village et non continue à l'hôtel ( fermé Lundi Mardi et Dimanche soir )
Hasta la vista
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Two accessible spots: Valbona and Theth. In both cases, local travel agencies in Shkoder or online offer round-trip or one-way access packages. Super handy, especially for Valbona.
Valbona and Theth are both very steep! There aren’t many easy hikes for less sporty folks (like me!).
Valbona: The highlight is the amazing 2.5-hour boat ride across Lake Koman. There are day trips from Shkoder, but you’ll only get a short tour of the lake. The best option is to do the full crossing—so spend a night in Valbona (or two if you want to hike in the valley) and return.
Theth is deeply nestled in the mountains. The village at the end of the valley, which is a dead end, has lots of hotels, but they’re pricey. Other hostels are scattered along the mountainside road, but it’s a steep climb down to the village or to the start of the two easy hikes (waterfalls and the Blue Eye). For us, it was a one-hour descent (and ascent!). It’s fine if you have a car; otherwise, keep an eye out for a taxi (cheap) or try hitchhiking—it works really well. Access from Shkoder to Theth is through an agency. The road is in great condition, and you can also rent a car for 2-3 days in Shkoder. If we did it again, that’s the option we’d choose.
We didn’t do the trek and returned to Shkoder each time. I can’t speak to its difficulty, but we were there in late May, and even experienced hikers had given up because of heavy rain and snow.
Hope this helps! It’s a stunning region you shouldn’t miss.
A good starting point is Shkoder, a really pleasant city. You can easily explore Shkoder itself in a day or two.
Two accessible spots: Valbona and Theth. In both cases, local travel agencies in Shkoder or online offer round-trip or one-way access packages. Super handy, especially for Valbona.
Valbona and Theth are both very steep! There aren’t many easy hikes for less sporty folks (like me!).
Valbona: The highlight is the amazing 2.5-hour boat ride across Lake Koman. There are day trips from Shkoder, but you’ll only get a short tour of the lake. The best option is to do the full crossing—so spend a night in Valbona (or two if you want to hike in the valley) and return.
Theth is deeply nestled in the mountains. The village at the end of the valley, which is a dead end, has lots of hotels, but they’re pricey. Other hostels are scattered along the mountainside road, but it’s a steep climb down to the village or to the start of the two easy hikes (waterfalls and the Blue Eye). For us, it was a one-hour descent (and ascent!). It’s fine if you have a car; otherwise, keep an eye out for a taxi (cheap) or try hitchhiking—it works really well. Access from Shkoder to Theth is through an agency. The road is in great condition, and you can also rent a car for 2-3 days in Shkoder. If we did it again, that’s the option we’d choose.
We didn’t do the trek and returned to Shkoder each time. I can’t speak to its difficulty, but we were there in late May, and even experienced hikers had given up because of heavy rain and snow.
Hope this helps! It’s a stunning region you shouldn’t miss.
We’re a Canadian couple, both 77, and we’re already planning our vacation for fall 2027.
Timeframe: mid-September to mid-October... dates are flexible, and we might stay even longer.
Initially, I had planned this itinerary:
Athens (3), Naxos (4), Paros (4), Santorini (4), then a flight to Istanbul (7–10 days!!). This would let us maximize our flights and experience another culture.
That’s a lot of ferries, though... I’ve already cut out Milos.
Our second option would be to stay 2 x 15 days on two different islands, but I’d still keep Istanbul as our next destination... or maybe 30 days on one island that offers the chance to take day trips to other islands where the ferry ride is no more than 2 to 2.5 hours. For example, Naxos to Paros only takes 30 minutes. We could return the same evening or stay overnight.
Naxos seems like the best option!!!
For Istanbul, of course we want to do a day cruise on the Bosphorus and see Hagia Sophia. If we stay 6–7 days, what would be the other main attractions? Are there any points of interest we can reach by local bus?
Our second option would be to stay 2 x 15 days on two different islands, but I’d still keep Istanbul as our next destination... or maybe 30 days on one island that offers the chance to take day trips to other islands where the ferry ride is no more than 2 to 2.5 hours. For example, Naxos to Paros only takes 30 minutes. We could return the same evening or stay overnight.
Naxos seems like the best option!!!
For Istanbul, of course we want to do a day cruise on the Bosphorus and see Hagia Sophia. If we stay 6–7 days, what would be the other main attractions? Are there any points of interest we can reach by local bus?
Hi there!
We bought our tickets to Greece at the end of November 2025, and let’s just say the geopolitical climate has really taken a turn since then with the war started by the United States against Iran. Not to mention all the other conflicts happening around the world 😕... Anyway!
Our flight from Montreal is on May 1st, and I was wondering how things are currently being experienced in Greece.
We were planning to rent a car and had already booked accommodations on three Cyclades islands!!
The oil shortage is also worrying us...
If you could share some insights on this, that would be great!
Thanks!!
Thanks!!




