Retour du Yunnan
by Iquique
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous,
De retour après un mois sur les routes du Yunnan ...
Dans un petit van inconfortable, accompagnés de notre jeune ( et inexperimenté mais tellement gentil) chauffeur et de notre guide (elle, expérimentée mais toute la journée au téléphone ...) nous avons fait (presque) tout le tour du Yunnan.
Kunming, terres rouges, Luoping, Janshui, Yuanyang, Jinghong, Wengding, Tengchong, la vallée de la Nu, Bingzhongluo, Lijiang, Dali, Kunming .. en gros.
Nous sommes ravis de ce voyage. Cela n'a pas toujours été de tout repos, mais très dépaysant (on est restés presque 3 semaines sans voir un visage occidental), très intéressant, et parfois aventureux, surprenant (personne ne nous avait dit que , dans les montagnes, il fait presque la même température dedans et dehors et que tout le monde est perpétuellement avec sa doudoune ! heureusement nous étions équipés en conséquence) et ... nous n'avons jamais autant eté pris en photo !
Les chinois ont toujours été aimables et prêts à nous aider ; même s'ils sont plutôt impassibles, ils ont généralement répondu à nos sourires.
Voilà, si vous voulez des renseignements tout frais, écrivez-moi!
Bon weekend.
Bonjour et merci pour votre réponse.
Afin de ficeler notre périple, je tiens à vous soumettre notre itinéraire et nous serons très attentifs à toutes vos suggestions !
D'avance merci
TGV Lille - 9h/9h53 ou 9h18/10h12 à Paris CDG - Vol à 13h10 ! 9h40 arrivée à Kunming Train avec nuit pour DaliDALI et visite des environs. DALI et visite des environs. LIJJIANG et environs. Visites en voiture !SHANGRI-LA visite et monastère de Songzanlin. Shangri-La via les gorges du Tigre (Qiatou) LIJJIANG LIJJIANG Vol à 22h15 pour JINGHONG à 23h25 JINGHONGJINGHONG et environs. Visites.JINGHONG et environs. Visites.JINGHONG Vol à 21h50 pour KUNMING à 23h KUNMINGKUNMING Vol à 17h05 pour Chengdu à 18h35 Paris CDG à 7h20 matin - TGV Lille - 9h07/9h58
TGV Lille - 9h/9h53 ou 9h18/10h12 à Paris CDG - Vol à 13h10 ! 9h40 arrivée à Kunming Train avec nuit pour DaliDALI et visite des environs. DALI et visite des environs. LIJJIANG et environs. Visites en voiture !SHANGRI-LA visite et monastère de Songzanlin. Shangri-La via les gorges du Tigre (Qiatou) LIJJIANG LIJJIANG Vol à 22h15 pour JINGHONG à 23h25 JINGHONGJINGHONG et environs. Visites.JINGHONG et environs. Visites.JINGHONG Vol à 21h50 pour KUNMING à 23h KUNMINGKUNMING Vol à 17h05 pour Chengdu à 18h35 Paris CDG à 7h20 matin - TGV Lille - 9h07/9h58
Vous ne dites pas combien de temps vous partez ? vous vous déplacez seuls ? vous parlez un peu le chinois ? Avez-vous réservé les hôtels et le train ?
Pas vraiment de suggestions à faire ... vous allez visiter ce qui me parait les sites les plus connus, c'est-à-dire là où il y a des centaines de touristes chinois ... nous avions plutôt opté pour des endroits moins fréquentés (avec l'aide de notre guide).
Nous avons zappé Sangri-la (trop couru) sur les conseils de notre guide pour remonter la Nu River à la place, et nous avons été déçus par la Tiger Leaping Gorge (mais cela n'engage que moi ...)
Lijiang est une ville agréable, mais bondée le soir . A Dali, il faut monter voir la succession de temples derrière les anciennes pagodes. Jinghong est agréable par son architecture différente et sa végétation tropicale ... A Kunming, la vieille ville est en travaux, entourée de murs en planches, on n'a rien pu voir .. mais c'est sympa de se balader autour du petit lac Cuihu où les chinois viennent danser ...
Bonjour,
En effet, j'ai oublié de vous préciser que nous partons 17 jours pour ce périple ?est organisé par une amie chinoise qui a tout pris en charge pour nous (réservation voiture, vols, train hôtels et autres…) mais d'un point de vue pratique quelle météo avez-vous eu et en tenant compte de notre itinéraire quel bon plan me conseillerez-vous (visites, resto, achats…)? Je sais pour y être déjà allé que ce n’est pas un pays ou l’on peut seul faire ce circuit et que irons de surprise en surprise mais cela ne nous fait pas peur !
Encore merci pour votre aide.
En effet, j'ai oublié de vous préciser que nous partons 17 jours pour ce périple ?est organisé par une amie chinoise qui a tout pris en charge pour nous (réservation voiture, vols, train hôtels et autres…) mais d'un point de vue pratique quelle météo avez-vous eu et en tenant compte de notre itinéraire quel bon plan me conseillerez-vous (visites, resto, achats…)? Je sais pour y être déjà allé que ce n’est pas un pays ou l’on peut seul faire ce circuit et que irons de surprise en surprise mais cela ne nous fait pas peur !
Encore merci pour votre aide.
Côté météo, chaud dans le sud ( Xishuangbanna) normal, c'est une région tropicale, mais plutôt frais dans le nord ( vêtements d'hiver, mais nous y étions début mars ...), nous avons malheureusement eu de la pluie à Lijiang et à Dali, le reste du temps il a fait beau ( je dirais 3 semaines de beau sur 4).
Pas vraiment de choses à acheter (selon notre goût) seulement une lampe-livre faite avec le papier de Lijiang.
Côté gastronomie ... pas terrible, à part les "dumplings" que nous avons bien aimés, mais qui sont plutôt du nord de la Chine, les plats étaient souvent très épicés et très gras.
Les bons plans ? ce serait surtout les villages que nous avons visités dans l'ouest, mais cela n'est pas dans votre programme. Comme je l'ai déjà dit, les temples derrière les pagodes de Dali, la vieille ville de Lijiang, le matin quand il n'y a personne, les montagnes sont souvent dans les nuages, j'espère que vous aurez plus de chance que nous et que vous les verrez ...nous avons bien aimé Shaxi, avec son marché du matin. A Jinghong, il y a un très grand marché le soir (je ne sais pas si c'est touts les jours) autour du Golden temple illuminé, très animé, très coloré, il y a une multitudes de choses à manger, on les choisies et ils les font cuire pour vous, il y a aussi toutes sortes d'artisanat.
Voilà ce qui me vient à l'esprit pour le moment. mais si vous avez une amie chinoise, elle vous donnera de bons conseils je pense.
Si, on peut faire seul un circuit en Chine et au Yunnan en particulier, sans parler un mot de chinois! Ne pas croire les agences et n'importe qui. Nous sommes au Yunnan pour 26 jours actuellement et nous nous débrouillons seuls avec les bus, les trains et les vans; ce n'est pas toujours facile mais on a toujours pris le bon bus au bon endroit. Jinhong ( passage terrestre depuis le Laos) , Yuanyang et ses fabuleuses terrasses). Prévoir plusieurs jours car il y a souvent du brouillard. Puis peu à peu vers le nord., villes et villages. Pas de touristes occidentaux et beau temps. Trek dans Leaping Gorge et partons à Shangrila-La.
Bon voyage
Schischi
J'ajouterai pour la météo: temps superbe depuis début mars sauf 2 jours de brouillard à Yuanyang ( heureusement nous avions prévu 4 jours, rizières et marchés). Actuellement à Shangri-La ( très peu de monde, donc peu couru à ces dates) temps magnifique; pull et doudoune au lever du jour et en T. shirt l'après-midi). Matelas chauffant dans les guest houses.
Bon voyage
Schischi
Si, on peut faire seul un circuit en Chine et au Yunnan en particulier, sans parler un mot de chinois! Ne pas croire les agences et n'importe qui. Nous sommes au Yunnan pour 26 jours actuellement et nous nous débrouillons seuls avec les bus, les trains et les vans; ce n'est pas toujours facile mais on a toujours pris le bon bus au bon endroit. Jinhong ( passage terrestre depuis le Laos) , Yuanyang et ses fabuleuses terrasses). Prévoir plusieurs jours car il y a souvent du brouillard. Puis peu à peu vers le nord., villes et villages. Pas de touristes occidentaux et beau temps. Trek dans Leaping Gorge et partons à Shangrila-La.
Bon voyage
Bonjour, vos commentaires sont encourageants et très précieux. Je compte entreprendre (en octobre) un voyage au Yunnan "à la débrouille" en compagnie de 5 amis. Je précise que je parle anglais sans problème et que je ne me débrouille même pas trop mal en mandarin (certes je suppose que c'est le cantonais la langue la + utilisée au Yunnan). Je voudrais savoir s'il est facile de trouver de petites agences locales à même de nous fournir un petit minibus avec chauffeur à prix normal, et surtout si vous avez utilisé ce genre de transport. Merci de me répondre, vos conseils me seront précieux.
Bonjour, vos commentaires sont encourageants et très précieux. Je compte entreprendre (en octobre) un voyage au Yunnan "à la débrouille" en compagnie de 5 amis. Je précise que je parle anglais sans problème et que je ne me débrouille même pas trop mal en mandarin (certes je suppose que c'est le cantonais la langue la + utilisée au Yunnan). Je voudrais savoir s'il est facile de trouver de petites agences locales à même de nous fournir un petit minibus avec chauffeur à prix normal, et surtout si vous avez utilisé ce genre de transport. Merci de me répondre, vos conseils me seront précieux.
Bonjour. Nous étions en couple et négociions les taxis quand nous en avions besoin. La plupart du temps nous avons trouvé des minibus publics pour aller ici ou là (
notamment pour les rizières, sauf une fois où nous avons négocié directement avec le chauffeur de taxi.) Les guest houses peuvent aussi aider quand quelqu'un parle anglais. Facile aussi de trouver les bus long distance donc pas de soucis! Je ne peux toutefois apporter plus de précision car nous n'etions que 2. Si vous avez besoin de renseignements précis, sachez que je ne serai chez moi qu 'en mai pour retrouver mes notes. Sommes en voyage!
Bons préparatifs.
Schischi
Bonjour. Nous étions en couple et négociions les taxis quand nous en avions besoin. La plupart du temps nous avons trouvé des minibus publics pour aller ici ou là (
notamment pour les rizières, sauf une fois où nous avons négocié directement avec le chauffeur de taxi.) Les guest houses peuvent aussi aider quand quelqu'un parle anglais. Facile aussi de trouver les bus long distance donc pas de soucis! Je ne peux toutefois apporter plus de précision car nous n'etions que 2. Si vous avez besoin de renseignements précis, sachez que je ne serai chez moi qu 'en mai pour retrouver mes notes. Sommes en voyage!
Bons préparatifs.
Merci de votre réponse rapide. J'imagine qu'en couple, ceci soit la façon la plus sympa et la moins onéreuse de voyager en Chine (je le fais d'ailleurs en Inde chaque année). Mais ici nous partons à 6 (et certain(e)s d'entre nous ne sont pas de pures baroudeuses), c'est pourquoi je voudrais trouver un minibus avec chauffeur, afin de nous assurer un certain confort tout en gardant une certaine liberté, notamment dans le choix des hôtels ou guesthouses. En tout cas, bon voyage à vous, encore merci et si vous avez d'autres idées nous concernant, n'hésitez pas en m'en faire part.
Merci de votre réponse rapide. J'imagine qu'en couple, ceci soit la façon la plus sympa et la moins onéreuse de voyager en Chine (je le fais d'ailleurs en Inde chaque année). Mais ici nous partons à 6 (et certain(e)s d'entre nous ne sont pas de pures baroudeuses), c'est pourquoi je voudrais trouver un minibus avec chauffeur, afin de nous assurer un certain confort tout en gardant une certaine liberté, notamment dans le choix des hôtels ou guesthouses. En tout cas, bon voyage à vous, encore merci et si vous avez d'autres idées nous concernant, n'hésitez pas en m'en faire part.
Eh bien moi je passerais 4 semaines de mon temps au Yunnan, Sichuan en Sept.2018. Hors des sentiers battus et En semi-liberté si je suis seul. Chauffeur et véhicule.
Si je trouve un compagnon de voyage encore un guide francophone.
C’est quoi un prix normal? Et combien de personnes dans ce minibus?
Bonne préparation.
John
"En route, le mieux c'est de se perdre. Lorsqu'on s'égare, les projets font place aux surprises et c'est alors, mais alors seulement, que le voyage commence." (Nicolas Bouvier)
Essayer « ciel Yunnan » pour obtenir simplement un bus et chauffeur pour 6 personnes.
J’ai organiser un véhicule et chauffeur pour ~ 100 euro par jour pour tout le mois de septembre.
Bon voyage
"En route, le mieux c'est de se perdre. Lorsqu'on s'égare, les projets font place aux surprises et c'est alors, mais alors seulement, que le voyage commence." (Nicolas Bouvier)
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I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno. I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better. Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Thanks so much!
Hi there.
I’m traveling solo to China in October '26, heading to these spots:
Guilin - Yangshuo - Chengdu – Leshan – Chongqing – Zhangjiajie - Furong – Shanghai
Any guides you’d recommend?
Tons of "agencies" (gowithguide, Hellechinaguide, etc.) offer guides. Can I reach out to them? I also speak English.
Any other tips for me?
Thanks! !
Guilin - Yangshuo - Chengdu – Leshan – Chongqing – Zhangjiajie - Furong – Shanghai
Any guides you’d recommend?
Tons of "agencies" (gowithguide, Hellechinaguide, etc.) offer guides. Can I reach out to them? I also speak English.
Any other tips for me?
Thanks! !
Hi there,
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung. Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Thanks in advance!
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung. Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026.
The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting.
Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback?
Is there a better option?
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this!
Michel
hi, does anyone have suggestions or contacts for a private local driver without going through a big travel agency for a multi-day trip in Yunnan?
thanks for any info
thanks for any info
Hi there,
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I’m traveling to Japan with a young adult with autism (ASD) from July 28 to August 8, following a pretty classic route: Osaka, Hiroshima, Kyoto, and Tokyo. I’m looking for a schedule of the most spectacular fireworks displays during that time. So far, the dates for the major *hanabi* events aren’t available online yet. If anyone has them, I’d really appreciate it if you could share!
Hi there,
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone, I’m Julien!
This summer, from late June to late July, I’m planning a one-month solo trip to Japan—my first time!
I’d love to hear your thoughts and advice on the itinerary I’ve put together to explore this amazing country.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Hello everyone,
Like Cedric13600, I’ve booked a flight ticket for 30 days / 29 nights in September 2026, from Beijing to Shanghai. We’re a couple in our sixties who love independent road trips.
I’d like to draw inspiration from the following private itinerary suggested by a travel agency:
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Hello everyone,
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
Hi,
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
I'm 69 years old and heading to China, where most tourist sites are free or discounted for me. However, trip.com either refuses to let me book because the sites are free or doesn’t apply the discount. Does WeChat apply this discount if I book through them? How can I just reserve without paying and pay on-site? Is that possible?
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
Hi there,
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
Hi there,
We just got back from a 2-week trip to China as a couple, and before we left, the budget was the hardest thing to picture concretely. We found plenty of info on visas, apps, transport, and itineraries, but way fewer detailed breakdowns of what you *actually* spend on the ground.
So, we took the time to share our real budget for 14 days. In our case, we spent around 1,800 € per person, with a big chunk of that going toward round-trip flights at about 600 € per person. We were also pretty surprised by how affordable China can be once you’re there—transport is often cheap, and a lot of everyday expenses stay reasonable.
The trickiest part, in the end, was figuring out how to pay while you’re there, since it’s not always obvious if you’re not prepared. But once everything’s set up and you get the hang of it, it’s really smooth.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea before they go, we’ve broken it all down here:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-2-semaines-de-voyage-en-chine/
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Hi everyone,
I’ve been planning several itineraries for a trip to Japan with my wife but would love your insights before we start booking!
In short, we want to go during Golden Week, see late-blooming cherry trees, and have the freedom to get around with a rental car.
Here’s the plan:
18-day itinerary in Japan (April 25 → May 12)
Goal: freedom, late cherry blossoms, culture & nature
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
hi! Is it easy to use for paying for all the small purchases at the markets? INSTALLATION AND USE WITHOUT ISSUES—do you also need a VPN for China?
Secondly, for using phone and internet, I have Orange—is it reliable, or should I go with Airalo instead?
Hi there,
The info I found on the forum is a bit outdated, so I’m asking again!
1) What budget should I plan for 15 days, given that hotels with breakfast, transfers, and transport are already paid for? I know it depends on the person, but I’d love a rough idea. For meals, we’re thinking simple street food or small local restaurants.
2) I’ve heard that credit cards (we each have a Revolut + 1 Visa Premier) aren’t widely used and that it’s better to have cash. Can you confirm?
3) Are foreign credit cards still not accepted at bank ATMs? Still 7-Eleven or the Post Office? And what about American Express?
Thanks in advance, Best regards
The info I found on the forum is a bit outdated, so I’m asking again!
1) What budget should I plan for 15 days, given that hotels with breakfast, transfers, and transport are already paid for? I know it depends on the person, but I’d love a rough idea. For meals, we’re thinking simple street food or small local restaurants.
2) I’ve heard that credit cards (we each have a Revolut + 1 Visa Premier) aren’t widely used and that it’s better to have cash. Can you confirm?
3) Are foreign credit cards still not accepted at bank ATMs? Still 7-Eleven or the Post Office? And what about American Express?
Thanks in advance, Best regards
I'm planning a 19-day itinerary in Japan this summer.
For a first trip, Kyoto seems like a must. For the rest, I'm torn between:
- Matsumoto, Takayama, Kanazawa for 5 to 6 days
- Kyoto 4 days
- Nara 2 days
- Koyasan 1 day
- Hakone/Mount Fuji 2 to 3 days
- Tokyo 3 days
Or dedicating the first 6 days to Kyushu.
Maybe there’s less traditional Japan in Kyushu compared to the Japanese Alps? Maybe Kyushu is less crowded? Thanks for your thoughts!
Or dedicating the first 6 days to Kyushu.
Maybe there’s less traditional Japan in Kyushu compared to the Japanese Alps? Maybe Kyushu is less crowded? Thanks for your thoughts!






