Road trip en mai 2012: Italie-Monténégro-Croatie-Slovénie (et retour par l'Allemagne?)
by Axtxkax3x7
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Bonjour avec mon frere (nous avons 25 et 27 ans) nous voulons découvrir cette partie de l’Europe en voiture.
Nous avons 3 semaines au moi de mai.
Nous partirons de Toulouse direction monaco puis l'italie du nord.
Nous voulons découvrir l’Italie, pourquoi pas l'albanie (mais au vue de la distance a parcourir et vu qu'il existe des ferries qui traversent directement de bari (italie) a bar (montenegro), je pense que nous allons raccourcir le trajet.
Il vaut mieux profiter de notre temps, plutot que de devoir rouler sans arret.
Ensuite remonter vers la croatie en longeant les cotes, puis pourquoi pas la slovenie.
En fonction du temps dispo nous ne savons pas encore si nous rentrons par l'italie, ou si nous continuons en remontant par l'allemagne.
Qu'en pensez-vous est-ce réaliste en 3 semaines?
Il y'a t'il des endroits a ne pas looper?
(J'ai hesiter a acheter les guide du routards, mais cela fait beaucoup de pays, beaucoup de guide et je ne suis pas sur que cela en vaut vraiment le coup, j'ai trouver des infos sur le site du guide du routard et je me fais un book via les infos trouvés sur le net)
mais rien de mieux que les expériences d'autres voyageurs pour nous orienter dans nos choix.
Avez-vous des conseils? astuces? bons plans?
merci d'avance,
chris
Bonjour,
Un beau circuit en perspective, mais effectivement en 3 semaines, cela va faire beaucoup de kilomètres et il va falloir choisir les étapes incontournables, au risque de passer à côté d'autres sans pouvoir s'arrêter.
Je pense que la traversée Bari-Bar est effectivement une bonne idée.
En suivant le trajet évoqué, je pense qu'il ne faut pas manquer :
Pour l'Italie : Sienne en Toscane ainsi que Florence (si vous aimez les musées), Rome, bien sûr mais qui pourrait faire partie d'un séjour à part entière tellement la ville est riche. Idem pour Naples et la côte amalfitaine, puis Bari.
Pour le Montenegro : ne manquez pas les bords du lac Skadar (traversée en bateau possible de Virpazar) et les montagnes autour, la ville de Budva puis les bouches de Kotor (ne pas manquer une halte à Perast).
Pour la côte Croate : Dubrovnik, éventuellement les îles alentours (Korcula, Hvar etc...), Split, Trogir, le parc de Krka, Zagreb
Après, tout dépend de votre route de retour (je n'ai pas bien compris ce que venait faire l'Allemagne sur la route de Toulouse???
Nous avons partiellement fait votre trajet en 2010 et avons mis quelques photos et infos sur le blog en signature.
Bons préparatifs
Stéphane
Super, merci pour tout ces bons conseils..
Je vais aller voir ton blog pour m'inspirer (peut-etre aurais-je d'autres questions ensuite..)
As-tu acheter des guides particuliers pour te guider dans ton periple? peut-etre seulemnt des cartes routieres..
Je vais deja commencer en faisant des copie d'ecran de google map.. qui est deja un bon debut.
Pour ce qui est de la route du retour, mon frere habite a toulouse, donc depart de toulouse, mais moi j'habite a bourg en bresse (pres de lyon), du coup, retour probable par la suisse ou l'allemagne. Mais cela va beaucoup ralonger le trajet. donc retour surement plutot par venise, verones, milan, turin.
voila, merci encore, chris.
Pour ce qui est de la route du retour, mon frere habite a toulouse, donc depart de toulouse, mais moi j'habite a bourg en bresse (pres de lyon), du coup, retour probable par la suisse ou l'allemagne. Mais cela va beaucoup ralonger le trajet. donc retour surement plutot par venise, verones, milan, turin.
voila, merci encore, chris.
Etant donné que nous avons traversé pas mal de pays, nous n'avons acheté des guides que pour ceux où nous sommes restés longtemps. Pour les autres, nous avons "navigué" avec le GPS, une carte d'Europe et pour les visites, nous avons fait des haltes dans les offices du tourisme qui nous ont fourni suffisamment de renseignements (et des cartes...).
N'hésite pas à me recontacter pour d'autres infos
Stéphane
3 semaines en Mai, le voyage est réaliste surtout si vous revenez en ferry... Ca évite beaucoup de kilomètres même s'il faut bien choisir la compagnie car toutes ne sont pas bonnes niveau confort, services...
Bonjour,
Superbe projet, effectivement ça va vous faire du kilométrage.
A titre indicatif avec ma soeur l'été dernier nous somme descendus en croatie (jusqu'à Dubrovnik) en voiture via allemagne autriche slovénie et retour via slovenie italie. 10 jours en croatie (et déjà léger je trouve en terme de temps), 4 de trajet pour pouvoir visiter en autriche et en italie sur la route. Sur le retour, Dubrovnik, split, trogir sont a ne pas rater.
Bon voyage.
Superbe projet, effectivement ça va vous faire du kilométrage.
A titre indicatif avec ma soeur l'été dernier nous somme descendus en croatie (jusqu'à Dubrovnik) en voiture via allemagne autriche slovénie et retour via slovenie italie. 10 jours en croatie (et déjà léger je trouve en terme de temps), 4 de trajet pour pouvoir visiter en autriche et en italie sur la route. Sur le retour, Dubrovnik, split, trogir sont a ne pas rater.
Bon voyage.
Dans ma famille on reviens toujours, mais pas forcément avec notre véhicule entier !
L'été dernier, sur 24 jours, j'ai fait 5020 km pour faire la Slovénie (3 jours), la Croatie (15 jours), la Bosnie (3 jours) et le Montenegro (3 jours). Il y a de quoi faire... et quelques jours de plus en Croatie n'auraient pas été de trop... Tu peux suivre notre trip sur mon blog (en signature). Pour l'histoire des guides, voilà ce que je te propose pour les pays dans lesquels tu ne vas pas rester longtemps... :
http://books.google.fr/books?id=hHFzEhaN-8gC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false
J'espère avoir pu t'aider...
Si besoin...
http://books.google.fr/books?id=hHFzEhaN-8gC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false
J'espère avoir pu t'aider...
Si besoin...
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Wouaou, j'ai devorée ton blog bibouns 51 avec beaucoup d'interets.. cela donne encore plus envie de partir.
les photos sont superbes.. vraiment cela a du être un super voyage.
merci pour le lien des guides en pdf.. super idée!
Je commence a prendre des idées de coins a visiter a droite a gauche sur le net, merci a marienoire pour le lien http://voyages.ideoz.fr/ j'y ai trouvé pleins de truk sympa.
Je suis en train de me monter un petit book de préparation.
Je bloque un peu sur la traversée de l'italie vers le montenegro (Bari a Bar), car je ne trouve rien a moins de 200 euros la traversée (pour une voiture et 2 adultes, sans couchettes, juste "sur le pont")
sinon l'option camping ou couchsurfing va surement être notre base de couchage sur place. (d'ailleurs, question: peut-on passer les frontières avec de la nourriture francaise, car dans l'option couchsurfing autant apporter des p'tites specialitées en echange..)
Autre question: Etes-vous partis avec votre voiture perso ou avez-vous louer une voiture spécialement pour le voyage? (car nous pensions en louer une, pour etre sur d'etre couvert a 100% question assurance si vol , rapatriement du véhicule si gros soucis)
merci,
chris
No problème pour passer de la nourriture française aux frontières, j'en avais d'ailleurs plein le coffre... Tu l'as compris, je suis parti avec ma voiture perso... Question assurance, seule la Bosnie peut éventuellement poser problème. A toi de t'assurer que ton assurance couvre ce pays...
Si besoin...
Si besoin...
Ne rêve pas ta vie ! Vis tes rêves !
Merci a tous pour tout vos conseils,
Apres plusieurs recherches sur le net, les bons coins a ne pas looper..
voici une premiere ebauche du parcours (modifiable sur place, j'en suis sur..)
mais qui donne deja le rytme a tenir et les villes a na pas louper.
Jour1: Toulouse.Nice Jour2: Nice.Pise Jour3: Pise. Grosseto. Jour 4: Grosseto.rome Jour 5: Rome.Formia Jour 6: Formia. Naples Jour7: Naples.bari Jour 8: Bar et lac de skadar jour 9: Skadar. Kotor Jour 10: Kotor. Jour11: kotor. Dubrovnik Jour12: Dubrovnik. Split Jour 13: Split. Zadar Jour 14: Zadar et parc Plitvice. Jour 15: le parc Jour 16: Plitvice. Zagreb Jour 17: Zagreb. Ljubjana Jour 18: Ljubjana. trieste Jour 19: Trieste. Venise Jour 20: Venise. Padoue. verone Jour 21: Milan Jour 22: Milan.Lyon Jour 23: Lyon.Toulouse.
Est-ce que cela vous parait raisonnable? aurais-je oublier des coins sympas a voir qui seraient sur la parcours? Si vous avez des bons plans a partager pas de souci.. Toujours a la recherche d'un bon plans pour la traversée de bari a bar. Je vais me renseigner cote assurance voiture. Nous avons nos permis internationals et passeport (meme si ce n'est pas obligatoire) cela peut-etre utiles.
Jour1: Toulouse.Nice Jour2: Nice.Pise Jour3: Pise. Grosseto. Jour 4: Grosseto.rome Jour 5: Rome.Formia Jour 6: Formia. Naples Jour7: Naples.bari Jour 8: Bar et lac de skadar jour 9: Skadar. Kotor Jour 10: Kotor. Jour11: kotor. Dubrovnik Jour12: Dubrovnik. Split Jour 13: Split. Zadar Jour 14: Zadar et parc Plitvice. Jour 15: le parc Jour 16: Plitvice. Zagreb Jour 17: Zagreb. Ljubjana Jour 18: Ljubjana. trieste Jour 19: Trieste. Venise Jour 20: Venise. Padoue. verone Jour 21: Milan Jour 22: Milan.Lyon Jour 23: Lyon.Toulouse.
Est-ce que cela vous parait raisonnable? aurais-je oublier des coins sympas a voir qui seraient sur la parcours? Si vous avez des bons plans a partager pas de souci.. Toujours a la recherche d'un bon plans pour la traversée de bari a bar. Je vais me renseigner cote assurance voiture. Nous avons nos permis internationals et passeport (meme si ce n'est pas obligatoire) cela peut-etre utiles.
Regarde sur la carte verte de la voiture, les pays couverts y sont indiqués (en tout cas sur la mienne, en Suisse).
Il y a quoi de notoire à Formia ?
Il y a quoi de notoire à Formia ?
Mathilde
à grosseto non plus ; il vaudrait peut-être mieux faire directement pise rome et rester un njour entier à rome le lendemain, puis directement rome-naples et rester le lendemain un jour entier à naples
Le détour par Zagreb te fait faire beaucoup de route... Quant à Zadar, pour moi, ce n'est pas un indispensable... Et tu loupes sur ton parcours Mostar en Bosnie, et Trogir en Croatie (proche de Split). Et tu fais la Croatie sans faire au moins une île ? Dommage... Tu devrais faire un petit stop à Hvar. Ensuite, en Italie, au nord de Rome, je te conseille fortement un stop à Sienne en Toscane. Tu peux faire Pise et Sienne dans la même journée...
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Je rejoins bibouns sur plusieurs points, et ce n'est pas la première fois (je pense que je vais jeter un coup d'oeil sur son blog d'ici peu😉.
En Italie, il serait vraiment dommage de ne pas traverser la Toscane et s'arrêter à Sienne (entre Nice et Sienne, tu peux t'arrêter à Genova, ou aux 5 Terre). Tu peux donc éliminer Grosseto, comme Formia, comme conseillé par quelqu'un d'autre pour passer un peu plus de temps dans Rome et Naples. Pour la Croatie, je confirme aussi que Trogir vaut le détour, contrairement à Zadar qui ne m'a pas particulièrement emballé. Concernant Zagreb, c'est vrai que ça te fait à crochet et comme tu auras déjà quelques milliers de km dans les pattes, tu auras peut être envie de passer un peu plus de temps dans dehors. Privilégie donc peut être LJubljana (que je ne connais pas mais qui est, parait il très agréable)
En Italie, il serait vraiment dommage de ne pas traverser la Toscane et s'arrêter à Sienne (entre Nice et Sienne, tu peux t'arrêter à Genova, ou aux 5 Terre). Tu peux donc éliminer Grosseto, comme Formia, comme conseillé par quelqu'un d'autre pour passer un peu plus de temps dans Rome et Naples. Pour la Croatie, je confirme aussi que Trogir vaut le détour, contrairement à Zadar qui ne m'a pas particulièrement emballé. Concernant Zagreb, c'est vrai que ça te fait à crochet et comme tu auras déjà quelques milliers de km dans les pattes, tu auras peut être envie de passer un peu plus de temps dans dehors. Privilégie donc peut être LJubljana (que je ne connais pas mais qui est, parait il très agréable)
Merci LeGrandAir !
Oui, va faire un petit tour sur mon blog, tu verras un peu à quoi ressemble Ljubljana... et dis-moi ce que tu en penses... J'avais d'ailleurs lu le tiens avant de partir dans les Balkans...
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Merci a vous tous pour ces bons conseils.
C'est vraiment extra de votre part. Cela permet de mieux préparer le voyage et surtout ne rien rater (en effet j'ai été voir l'ile de Hvar sur internet, il aurait ete tres bete de passer a coté sans y faire un arret..)
Cela a l'air paradisiaque comme île..
J'ai fait tous les trajets sur google map, pleins de copies d'ecrans
J'ai donc remodifier le parcours pour enlever Grosseto, formia, zadar. Zagreb reste tout de même sur la route entre le parc Plitvice et Ljubjana donc on y fera tout de même un arret visite (l'ocasion d'une pause dejeuner..)
Encore merci a vous tous ;-)
Encore merci a vous tous ;-)
La route la plus directe entre Plitvice et Ljubljana ne passe pas par Zagreb... Sinon, pour Hvar, effectivement, ça mérite un arrêt d'au moins deux jours ! Moi, j'ai adoré !
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Un grand merci a tous pour tout vos conseils!
Nous avons adorés le voyage!!
de super rencontres, de super moments de partage, de découvertes..
des paysages a couper le souffle!
quelques photos pour vous remercier:
https://www.facebook.com/DangerousPinneaples
Encore merci pour tout vos conseils avisés!!
Encore merci pour tout vos conseils avisés!!
Bonjour,
Je planifie également un road trip en italie/ croatie en août sur 15 jours, en partant d'Antibes.
Pourrais-tu stp m'envoyer ton parcours final avec les différentes étapes , et celles qui sont vraiment incontournables?
Merci beaucoup!! 🙂
Merci beaucoup!! 🙂
Bonjour claunguyen, Je vais essayer de t'envoyer le détails de notre voyage, le coût, les coups de coeur..
ce que nous avons adorés, ce qui nous a decuts..
Je vais essayer de t'envoyer ca ce week-end!
15 jours c'est peut-etre un peu court, a moins que tu ne traverse directement Italie/ Croatie en ferrie..
Je t'envoie toutes les infos a dipo et tu fera toi même ton parcours en fonction..
Chris.
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Bonjour, Je planifie également un road trip en italie/ croatie en août sur 15 jours, en partant d'Antibes. Pourrais-tu stp m'envoyer ton parcours final avec les différentes étapes , et celles qui sont vraiment incontournables?
Merci beaucoup!! 🙂
Bonjour, Je planifie également un road trip en italie/ croatie en août sur 15 jours, en partant d'Antibes. Pourrais-tu stp m'envoyer ton parcours final avec les différentes étapes , et celles qui sont vraiment incontournables?
Merci beaucoup!! 🙂
Super, merci beaucoup!
C'est vrai que sur 15 jours ça va être dense, c'est pour ça que j'aimerais affiner le programme pour avoir un concentré de l'essentiel et du meilleur !! :D
Désole pour ma réponse un peu tardive, mais voici les infos:
Jour1: Bourg en bresse/ marseille/ Nice.
Jour2: Nice/ Montalé (pres de florence). passage a genes. On a rien vu a part une grosse zone industrielle. Aucun interet pour nous, mais il parait que c'est joli.
Jour3: Pise. (a voir rapidement, car a part la tour penchée pas grand chose a voir. Na pas compter une journée entiere pour info parking gratuit a Via Pratero (suivre ligne bus E a 15min a pied de la tour). Puis Lucca (super ville fortifiée a ne pas louper) possible de se garer pres des rempart: 0.10 euros les 2 premieres heures, apres c'est vraiment bcp plus cher)
Jour 4: visite de florence. Parking gratuit au supermarché coop, station scandicci du tram. acces direct en ville.
Jour 5: route vers rome. Possible dormir au camping seven hills village au nord de rome, pas tres cher, acces en centre ville (pres du vatican) de rome grace au train.
Jour 6: visite de rome.
jour 7: route rome/ Bari
nuit ds le ferri bari/ bar (montenegro) pour info 218 euros la traversée avec voiture, 2 passagers en lit couchette.
jour 8: arrivé au montenegro a bar. Visite du lac skadar (a ne pas louper, magnifique) Arret a Virpazar. resto sur un bateau: on a payé 15 euros le repas pour 2 entrées de cruditées, 2 plats: truite du lac, pomme de terre, tomate, concombre et une autre assiete escalope de poulet .
le soir: visite de stari bar. a voir! slendide! a gouter: le bourek specialité de pate feuilleté au fromage.
Jour9: départ de bar. Goùter un petit dej par exemple: une omelette fromage, et frite: 2.20 euros!
Budva. visite de la veille ville, tres touristique, trop?
direction la baie de kotor.
Jour 10: Journée dans la baie de kotor. Ne pas looper la ville de Kotor et monter les remparts! vue imprenable, a couper le souffle!
direction dubrovnick. passage de la frontiere.
camping orasac (pres de dubrovnick), tres sympa. vue sur la mer adriatique. superbe!!
jour 11: visite de dubrovnick. attention bcp de touristes! prix assez cher. grimper sur les remparts: 10 euros! une expo sur la guerre et le bombardement de la ville. vue du huat de la ville en prenant le telepherique (mais si vous avez une voiture, il ya une petite route qui accede en haut du telepherique..) Vue superbe! a ne pas looper!
jour 12: passage de la frontiere bosniac, Split, et visite de trogir.
jour 13: journée sur l'ile de Hvar. (ferrie depart de split) A faire!!
Jour 14: direction Plitvice.
jour 15: Journée ds la parc PLitvice: un paradis sur terre! magnifique!!
(et je te fais la suite des que je peux..)
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I’d love to get your opinions and advice on a destination. It’s actually for my 19-year-old son who wants to go to Greece with his cousin, who’s the same age. They’re looking at leaving on October 24th for 7 to 10 days. For their trip, they want gorgeous beaches where they can swim, beautiful typical villages and historic cities, stunning landscapes, but also lively spots for their nights out. In short, they’re not just going there to laze around—they want to make the most of it...
But here’s the thing: will the weather be too iffy at that time, especially for swimming? Also, would Crete be the best choice for what they’re looking for? Then, a travel agent suggested Tenerife instead because of the weather at that time of year—he said the climate there is the same all year round. But will they find landscapes and beaches as beautiful as in Crete?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi there,
Our first trip to Greece as a couple. We're planning to spend 7 days in Greece from August 30th to September 5th. We'll reserve 2 days for Athens at the end of the trip. For the remaining 5 days, we want to visit an island—any recommendations? Thanks for your tips and details, we really appreciate it.
Hi,
What tips can you give me for dealing with a car rental scam attempt in Lithuania?
In our case, it’s the Avis-Budget agency in Vilnius trying to scam us.
We rented a car at Vilnius Airport for 2 weeks on July 28, 2019, to return it in Tallinn on August 11. We brought it back on August 11 at the airport, in perfect condition, and with a full tank at the gas station right by Tallinn Airport.
On the parking lot, the receptionist’s booth was closed. So we had to leave the car in the lot and go to the counter inside the airport. The person at the counter told us their colleague had gone for lunch! But they refused to come out and do the inspection with us because they were alone at the counter. They told us we could leave and that everything was fine!!!!
Two days later, we got an email from Avis-Budget with two invoices saying the car was damaged—scratched on both sides—and charging us for a full tank of gas. That’s two bills totaling 800 €!!!! Coincidentally, the deposit was 900 €!
It’s clear this isn’t over!! Have any of you been through the same nightmare? How did you handle it? Thanks in advance!
In our case, it’s the Avis-Budget agency in Vilnius trying to scam us.
We rented a car at Vilnius Airport for 2 weeks on July 28, 2019, to return it in Tallinn on August 11. We brought it back on August 11 at the airport, in perfect condition, and with a full tank at the gas station right by Tallinn Airport.
On the parking lot, the receptionist’s booth was closed. So we had to leave the car in the lot and go to the counter inside the airport. The person at the counter told us their colleague had gone for lunch! But they refused to come out and do the inspection with us because they were alone at the counter. They told us we could leave and that everything was fine!!!!
Two days later, we got an email from Avis-Budget with two invoices saying the car was damaged—scratched on both sides—and charging us for a full tank of gas. That’s two bills totaling 800 €!!!! Coincidentally, the deposit was 900 €!
It’s clear this isn’t over!! Have any of you been through the same nightmare? How did you handle it? Thanks in advance!
I’m spending 2 weeks in Crete in September and will need a rental car.
I usually go with Europcar, but comparing their offer to what Aegean Rentals has, I see Europcar is charging no less than 400 € more for the same car and similar insurance!
I’d love to hear if others have experience with Aegean Rentals, and if so, whether it was a good one?
Hi,
We’re heading to Greece in early October and will be staying in Kineta, north of the Saronic Gulf, and renting a car.
Is it feasible to visit Acrocorinth, Mycenae, Nafplio, and Epidaurus in a single day?
Thanks for your recommendations!
Hi there!
I’m sharing our itinerary for May/June 2027—23 days. This is our first time in Greece, so we’re starting with the must-see spots. We’re planning another trip later to explore the north, Thessaloniki, Macedonia, and some islands.
- Athens, 4 nights - Corinth area, 2 nights (Heraion of Perachora, Canal, Acrocorinth) - Nafplio, 3 nights (Mycenae, Epidaurus, Methana peninsula) - Gefira, 2 nights (Monemvasia) - Areopoli, 2 nights (Mani). Maybe add an extra night and stay on the peninsula??? Based on my calculations, the Mani loop is about 100 km—doable in a day, but it’d be a quick trip. - Sparta or Pikoulianika, 2 nights (Mystras) - Dimitsana, 2 nights (Lousios Gorge, monasteries) - Olympia, 2 nights (via Lagkadia?) - Delphi or Arachova, 3 nights (via the west coast, Galaxidi bridge) (Delphi, Hosios Loukas Monastery) - And back to Athens.
This is just a rough draft for now. We’re planning to stay in hotels or book through Booking.com. What do you think? Thanks for your feedback and suggestions!
- Athens, 4 nights - Corinth area, 2 nights (Heraion of Perachora, Canal, Acrocorinth) - Nafplio, 3 nights (Mycenae, Epidaurus, Methana peninsula) - Gefira, 2 nights (Monemvasia) - Areopoli, 2 nights (Mani). Maybe add an extra night and stay on the peninsula??? Based on my calculations, the Mani loop is about 100 km—doable in a day, but it’d be a quick trip. - Sparta or Pikoulianika, 2 nights (Mystras) - Dimitsana, 2 nights (Lousios Gorge, monasteries) - Olympia, 2 nights (via Lagkadia?) - Delphi or Arachova, 3 nights (via the west coast, Galaxidi bridge) (Delphi, Hosios Loukas Monastery) - And back to Athens.
This is just a rough draft for now. We’re planning to stay in hotels or book through Booking.com. What do you think? Thanks for your feedback and suggestions!
Over the past twenty-five years, I’ve traveled the roads between France and Moldova a good ten times, sometimes via Central Europe, other times via the Balkans.
It was while traveling like this—what I call "hitting the road the slow way"—that I realized something simple: our neighbors' neighbors are very clearly our neighbors too. And that’s not insignificant.
Proof: https://etreounepasetrebretillien.com/2018/03/19/moldova-mea/ 🤓
After a break of a few years, I’m planning to hit the road again in September, this time heading to Kosovo, crossing through Bosnia-Herzegovina and Montenegro.
Having gotten a bit older, I’ve no intention of rushing—no need to speed ahead of the music! 😄
I’d rather take my time.
I’m not looking to see everything, but to soak in the atmosphere of the places, always leaving room for the unexpected and for encounters.
I’m especially drawn to culturally immersive, authentic, and welcoming regions: lively villages, backroads, preserved landscapes, markets, local festivals, traditions that are still very much alive... and, why not, a few offbeat, forgotten, or slightly secret spots.
If any of you know Bosnia-Herzegovina, Montenegro, or Kosovo a little, I’d love to hear your suggestions for itineraries, stops, backroads, homestays, village festivals, or local contacts, for example.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
It was while traveling like this—what I call "hitting the road the slow way"—that I realized something simple: our neighbors' neighbors are very clearly our neighbors too. And that’s not insignificant.
Proof: https://etreounepasetrebretillien.com/2018/03/19/moldova-mea/ 🤓
After a break of a few years, I’m planning to hit the road again in September, this time heading to Kosovo, crossing through Bosnia-Herzegovina and Montenegro.
Having gotten a bit older, I’ve no intention of rushing—no need to speed ahead of the music! 😄
I’d rather take my time.
I’m not looking to see everything, but to soak in the atmosphere of the places, always leaving room for the unexpected and for encounters.
I’m especially drawn to culturally immersive, authentic, and welcoming regions: lively villages, backroads, preserved landscapes, markets, local festivals, traditions that are still very much alive... and, why not, a few offbeat, forgotten, or slightly secret spots.
If any of you know Bosnia-Herzegovina, Montenegro, or Kosovo a little, I’d love to hear your suggestions for itineraries, stops, backroads, homestays, village festivals, or local contacts, for example.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Planning to return to Belarus in mid-August, I just realized that since last September, Poland has reopened several border crossing points, and for buses, this means connections like Białystok-Grodno.
The official Polish page: https://granica.gov.pl/index_wait.php?p=b&c=t&v=pl&k=w

Several bus company routes, like on infobus.eu, take between 3 and 4 hours. Trains from Warsaw to Białystok take about 1.5 to 2 hours. This has the advantage of allowing comfortable train journeys with minimal time spent on a bus. Also, the Terespol-Brest border might have shorter queues if you still prefer a Warsaw-Brest bus.
Note that another route to Minsk, if you have a paper Russian or Belarusian visa, is the Kaliningrad-Minsk train. It’s long—around ten or eleven hours—but you can lie down and sleep. An option if you fly into Gdańsk and then take a short bus to Kaliningrad.
There are also Belavia flights from Minsk to Kaliningrad, but they’re expensive. The route is scenic:

In any case, this adds a few more options compared to what’s been available over the last four years.
The official Polish page: https://granica.gov.pl/index_wait.php?p=b&c=t&v=pl&k=w

Several bus company routes, like on infobus.eu, take between 3 and 4 hours. Trains from Warsaw to Białystok take about 1.5 to 2 hours. This has the advantage of allowing comfortable train journeys with minimal time spent on a bus. Also, the Terespol-Brest border might have shorter queues if you still prefer a Warsaw-Brest bus.
Note that another route to Minsk, if you have a paper Russian or Belarusian visa, is the Kaliningrad-Minsk train. It’s long—around ten or eleven hours—but you can lie down and sleep. An option if you fly into Gdańsk and then take a short bus to Kaliningrad.
There are also Belavia flights from Minsk to Kaliningrad, but they’re expensive. The route is scenic:

In any case, this adds a few more options compared to what’s been available over the last four years.
Hi there.
I’d like to know what the daily budget is for Greece in December. I’ll be landing in Athens and staying there for a week, then heading to some other islands—I don’t have a set itinerary yet. Also, I’ve heard that in December, or early January, the temperature is around 11–16°C. Is that accurate?
Finally, does anyone have a good recommendation for a cheap but clean hotel near the tourist sites? I don’t need a TV or any other extras. Also, is Greece gay-friendly?
Thanks in advance for your replies. Best regards
Finally, does anyone have a good recommendation for a cheap but clean hotel near the tourist sites? I don’t need a TV or any other extras. Also, is Greece gay-friendly?
Thanks in advance for your replies. Best regards
hi
I’d like to know the opening hours of physical stores between Germany and Austria, and between Austria and Slovenia, that sell the PAPER STICKER toll vignettes that still exist for 2026—non-digital ones. I don’t think they’re open 24/7, and I can’t find the info anywhere. Thanks
I’d like to know the opening hours of physical stores between Germany and Austria, and between Austria and Slovenia, that sell the PAPER STICKER toll vignettes that still exist for 2026—non-digital ones. I don’t think they’re open 24/7, and I can’t find the info anywhere. Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week trip in late September with our camper van to explore Bulgaria and Romania.
What routes would you recommend, starting from the South?
Is there an option to take a ferry in Italy, and is it worth it?
Thanks for all your tips!😊
Hi there, we’re a young couple and we’d love to go to the Blue Eye (Syri i Kalter) between today (26/06/26) and tomorrow (27/06/26).
Is anyone heading there and could give us a ride? We’re super friendly!
Thanks so much!
Maya and Sullivan
Maya and Sullivan
We're back. It's still a bit tough to get precise info, so here's a quick trip report!
A good starting point is Shkoder, a really pleasant city. You can easily explore Shkoder itself in a day or two.
Two accessible spots: Valbona and Theth. In both cases, local travel agencies in Shkoder or online offer round-trip or one-way access packages. Super handy, especially for Valbona.
Valbona and Theth are both very steep! There aren’t many easy hikes for less sporty folks (like me!).
Valbona: The highlight is the amazing 2.5-hour boat ride across Lake Koman. There are day trips from Shkoder, but you’ll only get a short tour of the lake. The best option is to do the full crossing—so spend a night in Valbona (or two if you want to hike in the valley) and return.
Theth is deeply nestled in the mountains. The village at the end of the valley, which is a dead end, has lots of hotels, but they’re pricey. Other hostels are scattered along the mountainside road, but it’s a steep climb down to the village or to the start of the two easy hikes (waterfalls and the Blue Eye). For us, it was a one-hour descent (and ascent!). It’s fine if you have a car; otherwise, keep an eye out for a taxi (cheap) or try hitchhiking—it works really well. Access from Shkoder to Theth is through an agency. The road is in great condition, and you can also rent a car for 2-3 days in Shkoder. If we did it again, that’s the option we’d choose.
We didn’t do the trek and returned to Shkoder each time. I can’t speak to its difficulty, but we were there in late May, and even experienced hikers had given up because of heavy rain and snow.
Hope this helps! It’s a stunning region you shouldn’t miss.
A good starting point is Shkoder, a really pleasant city. You can easily explore Shkoder itself in a day or two.
Two accessible spots: Valbona and Theth. In both cases, local travel agencies in Shkoder or online offer round-trip or one-way access packages. Super handy, especially for Valbona.
Valbona and Theth are both very steep! There aren’t many easy hikes for less sporty folks (like me!).
Valbona: The highlight is the amazing 2.5-hour boat ride across Lake Koman. There are day trips from Shkoder, but you’ll only get a short tour of the lake. The best option is to do the full crossing—so spend a night in Valbona (or two if you want to hike in the valley) and return.
Theth is deeply nestled in the mountains. The village at the end of the valley, which is a dead end, has lots of hotels, but they’re pricey. Other hostels are scattered along the mountainside road, but it’s a steep climb down to the village or to the start of the two easy hikes (waterfalls and the Blue Eye). For us, it was a one-hour descent (and ascent!). It’s fine if you have a car; otherwise, keep an eye out for a taxi (cheap) or try hitchhiking—it works really well. Access from Shkoder to Theth is through an agency. The road is in great condition, and you can also rent a car for 2-3 days in Shkoder. If we did it again, that’s the option we’d choose.
We didn’t do the trek and returned to Shkoder each time. I can’t speak to its difficulty, but we were there in late May, and even experienced hikers had given up because of heavy rain and snow.
Hope this helps! It’s a stunning region you shouldn’t miss.
We’re a Canadian couple, both 77, and we’re already planning our vacation for fall 2027.
Timeframe: mid-September to mid-October... dates are flexible, and we might stay even longer.
Initially, I had planned this itinerary:
Athens (3), Naxos (4), Paros (4), Santorini (4), then a flight to Istanbul (7–10 days!!). This would let us maximize our flights and experience another culture.
That’s a lot of ferries, though... I’ve already cut out Milos.
Our second option would be to stay 2 x 15 days on two different islands, but I’d still keep Istanbul as our next destination... or maybe 30 days on one island that offers the chance to take day trips to other islands where the ferry ride is no more than 2 to 2.5 hours. For example, Naxos to Paros only takes 30 minutes. We could return the same evening or stay overnight.
Naxos seems like the best option!!!
For Istanbul, of course we want to do a day cruise on the Bosphorus and see Hagia Sophia. If we stay 6–7 days, what would be the other main attractions? Are there any points of interest we can reach by local bus?
Our second option would be to stay 2 x 15 days on two different islands, but I’d still keep Istanbul as our next destination... or maybe 30 days on one island that offers the chance to take day trips to other islands where the ferry ride is no more than 2 to 2.5 hours. For example, Naxos to Paros only takes 30 minutes. We could return the same evening or stay overnight.
Naxos seems like the best option!!!
For Istanbul, of course we want to do a day cruise on the Bosphorus and see Hagia Sophia. If we stay 6–7 days, what would be the other main attractions? Are there any points of interest we can reach by local bus?
Hi there!
We bought our tickets to Greece at the end of November 2025, and let’s just say the geopolitical climate has really taken a turn since then with the war started by the United States against Iran. Not to mention all the other conflicts happening around the world 😕... Anyway!
Our flight from Montreal is on May 1st, and I was wondering how things are currently being experienced in Greece.
We were planning to rent a car and had already booked accommodations on three Cyclades islands!!
The oil shortage is also worrying us...
If you could share some insights on this, that would be great!
Thanks!!
Thanks!!