Turbulence on planes will become more and more frequent and more violent than before.
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MA
Hey everyone! 😊 Aircraft manufacturers will probably adapt in the coming years, but until future planes are designed to handle severe turbulence directly linked to climate change, personally, I’ll only unbuckle my seatbelt to go to the bathroom and take a few steps to keep my blood circulating. I already made it a habit to stay buckled up during my flights. My only issue is my preference for aisle seats—getting hit in the face with luggage isn’t great 😅. What about you?
Christine
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Hey everyone! 😊 Aircraft manufacturers will probably adapt in the coming years, but until future planes are designed to handle severe turbulence directly linked to climate change, personally, I’ll only unbuckle my seatbelt to go to the bathroom and take a few steps to keep my blood circulating. I already kept my seatbelt fastened the whole time on my flights. My only concern is my preference for aisle seats—getting hit by luggage isn’t fun. 😅 And you?

If I’m scared, I’ll hold onto you! :P
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
MA Manondugard Regular ·
Hey everyone! 😄 Aircraft manufacturers will likely adapt in the coming years, but until future planes are designed to handle severe turbulence directly linked to climate change, I’ll only unbuckle my seatbelt to go to the bathroom and take a few steps to keep my blood circulating. I already keep my seatbelt fastened the whole time during my flights. My only issue is my preference for aisle seats—getting hit by luggage isn’t fun. 😅 What about you??

If I get scared, I’ll cling to you! :P

Hey félobre! 😄 No worries, you can cling to me—it’ll be the first time someone checks out who they’re going to die with (that’s the only time people actually look at each other on a plane). 😄 I’ll take this chance to share a memory from my first domestic trip in the Colombian Caribbean. A Bogotá–Montería flight, full of locals (many wearing the *sombrero vueltiao* and shoulder ponchos). 😊 When the descent into Montería was announced, everyone started praying (out loud, with gestures). I got nervous as the only atheist, and it lasted a while. 😅 (I wonder if the pilot was praying too.) 😄 Welcome to the land of the *Costeños*. It was a striking first impression for me, seeing the path of the *río Sinú* winding through the lands of the *ganaderos*. We landed safely at that small airstrip, where the baggage handlers were surprised to see a blonde with blue eyes and fair skin. Later, my new indigenous friend’s pet monkey ran off screaming in terror (she never saw it again). 😢 Here I was, in my local bullfighting world. 🐂 I must’ve lost 2 kg during that descent! 😄
Christine
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
The night before a domestic flight in Thailand, I dreamed the plane was crashing. When I woke up, I wasn’t exactly thrilled. Still, I had to make a decision. I didn’t say anything to my wife and headed to the airport like a lamb to the slaughter. Shortly before landing, the sky darkened even more, and we hit some serious air pockets. I thought: *This is it, the moment has come.*

Since then, I’ve been wondering how to tell the difference between a premonition and a silly dream...
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
MA Manondugard Regular ·
The night before a domestic flight in Thailand, I dreamed the plane was crashing. When I woke up, I wasn’t exactly thrilled. Still, I had to make a decision. I didn’t say anything to my wife and headed to the airport like a lamb to the slaughter. Just before landing, the sky darkened even more, and we hit some serious turbulence. I thought: "This is it, the moment has come."

Ever since, I’ve been wondering how to tell the difference between a premonition and a silly dream...

In my humble opinion, dreams reflect our unresolved desires and fears. The day before yesterday, I dreamed I told my buddy Henri: "Don’t climb that ladder." He asked why. I said: "Call your son—he’ll tell you you died because of it." Yep, my buddy actually died recently from falling off a ladder (but that happened before my dream). Go figure... Personally, I watch a lot of crash videos a few days before a trip (it reassures me to see that people survive). 😄
Christine
DJ Djackx67 Veteran ·
I’d read an article in the press titled “airplane turbulence is becoming more and more frequent, and more and more violent, because of climate change.” I’d skimmed it, because of course, as soon as I see “climate change” anywhere, to me it’s just the same old propaganda, brainwashing—even more so when it’s about “flying,” since apparently that’s really bad. I took 14 flights in two and a half months last year during my trip to Colombia, and well, I didn’t experience any more turbulence than usual, even in small planes. Other than that, they say that in case of a crash, it’s better to be seated at the back. To be honest, as long as I’m on the window side to see the landscape, I’m good. Personally, I’m more nervous about flying on a Boeing now (given the repeated incidents in recent years) than about hitting turbulence. Still, I’m glad planes are adapting to today’s world, I have to say...
MA Manondugard Regular ·
I'd read an article in the press titled "airplane turbulence is becoming more and more frequent, and more and more violent, due to climate change." I'd skimmed it because, of course, as soon as I see "climate change" anywhere, to me it’s just the usual propaganda, brainwashing—even more so when it’s about "flying," since apparently that’s really bad. I took 14 flights in two and a half months last year during my trip to Colombia, and well, I didn’t experience any more turbulence than usual, even in small planes. Other than that, they say in case of a crash, it’s better to be seated at the back. To be honest, as long as I’m on the window side to see the landscape, I’m good. Personally, now I’m more scared of flying on a Boeing (given the repeated incidents in recent years) than going through turbulence. Still, thankfully planes adapt to today’s times, I’d say...

you’re right, dude, climate change is a load of crap 😂. Just like your claim about Boeings logically having more issues than others since there are more of them flying (but you’ll deny that too) 😆
Christine
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Boeing has more problems due to a certain laxity: less seriousness, less safety, and more focus on profits.

As for climate change, it’s permanent—especially among women. There are long cycles within which medium cycles and short cycles occur.

The long cycle we’re currently experiencing should last another 2,000 to 3,000 years. After that, you’ll have to knit sweaters for bulls so they don’t get too cold. It’s this cycle that allowed humanity to emerge.
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
DJ Djackx67 Veteran ·
I don’t know if everything about "climate change" is bogus, but the propaganda and brainwashing to make us feel guilty about everything related to "climate change"—that’s definitely not bogus.
MA Manondugard Regular ·
I wonder if conspiracy theorists like you have trouble sleeping at night, they're so overwhelmed by propaganda—or what they *think* is propaganda. 😄
Christine
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
Global warming is undeniable; it can't be ignored. Just look at its effects on our planet. We're told that human activity is accelerating it—and that's probably true. Without human activity, it would reach its peak much later in its cycle. A thousand or two thousand years from now? With human activity, its peak will be reached in 50 years? 100 years?

On a human scale, this changes everything. It will be our children or grandchildren who are affected. We feel concerned... we're scared and we feel guilty.

But on the scale of Earth's formation or the successive cycles of glaciation and warming, what difference does it make? Sooner or later, humanity will have to adapt to this warming and then to the cooling that will follow. 😏

Personally, I wouldn’t mind a slightly cooler climate, but I’d prefer to first see less destruction of natural habitats and a drastic reduction in the amount of plastic waste overwhelming our planet. We could start by tackling these very concrete problems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
As long as the world's population keeps growing, we can still dream of an improvement in the situation.

The lakes in northern Italy, such as Lake Garda, Lake Como, and Lake Maggiore, were formed at the end of the last glacial period, around 11,000 years ago, when vast Alpine glaciers carved out valleys. As these glaciers retreated, they left depressions that, with the melting ice, filled with water to form the lakes we see today.

Around 125,000 years ago, ocean levels were about 8 meters higher.

All this certainly proves that ancient civilizations only had 4x4s and lots of factories. I called the IPCC—they confirmed everything for me. 😉. Down with conspiracy theorists! !
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
MA Manondugard Regular ·
How's it going with you and your AC when it's a heatwave? 😏
Christine
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
When the heatwave spirals out of control...
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
As long as the global population keeps growing, we can still dream of an improvement in the situation.

The lakes in northern Italy, such as Lake Garda, Lake Como, and Lake Maggiore, were formed at the end of the last glacial period around 11,000 years ago, when vast Alpine glaciers carved out valleys. As they retreated, these glaciers left depressions that, with the melting ice, filled with water to form the lakes we know today.

Around 125,000 years ago, ocean levels were about 8 meters higher.

All this certainly proves that ancient civilizations only had 4x4s and lots of factories. I called the IPCC—they confirmed everything for me. 😉 Down with conspiracy theorists!

Good timing—the birth rate is dropping everywhere! Though apparently, that’s not a good thing either...
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Otherwise, for a traveler, there’s worse than dying in a plane. Zero suffering.
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KA Kate Globetrotter ·
Otherwise, for a traveler, there’s worse than dying in a plane. Zero suffering.

Oh no :( It can last 10 minutes! That’s a long 10 minutes when you know you’re not going to make it!
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Otherwise, for a traveler, there’s worse than dying in a plane. Zero suffering.

Oh no 🙁 It can last 10 minutes! That’s a long 10 minutes when you know you’re not gonna make it!

But do you *really* know that?

Besides, it’s no longer than suffering after a car accident or from cancer for much longer.

At least in this case, you don’t suffer...
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MA Manondugard Regular ·
At least you don't suffer there...

And in a crash where you're seriously injured but alive and unable to get out of the plane while it catches fire—you don't suffer??
Christine
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
In a crash, there are very often survivors, and some end up permanently disabled while others are luckier with minor injuries or unharmed...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
At least you don't suffer there...

And in a crash where you're seriously injured but alive and unable to get out of the plane while it catches fire, you don't suffer??

That must be almost non-existent.

Anyway, there are few good ways to die without suffering. So yeah, I'd rather have a crash and that's it.

Actually, I think about it every time I'm on a plane. I just prefer it to be on the way back from the trip
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MA Manondugard Regular ·
You’re forgetting the instant blackout caused by depressurization. And otherwise, human nature is well-designed because at a certain level of physical pain, we pass out. Or with intense stress, we no longer feel the pain. I experienced this firsthand the day I was shot in the chest with a revolver (I still have the bullet, and it reminds me it’s there when the weather’s stormy—it knocks against one of my ribs). I fainted from the intense pain even though it didn’t hit any vital organs. The human body works that way, and there are plenty of testimonies from people who’ve lost a leg, an arm, or other limbs and felt nothing in the moment. Fainting kicks in when the pain is unbearable (if God exists—which I doubt—he did a pretty good job). 🤪
Christine
MA Mathews Globetrotter ·
You’re forgetting the instant blackout from depressurization. And otherwise, human nature is well-designed because at a certain level of physical pain, you pass out. Or with intense stress, you no longer feel the pain.

When I’m around female cabin crew on a plane, it can have that effect on me. And turbulence can also happen if said crew—or rather, the flight attendants—enter the cockpit. After all, we don’t really know what goes on in there.

How are you and your AC when it’s a heatwave?

It’s true that this topic, Ms. Manon, is a hot one. Like Icarus burning his wings as he got closer to the sun.
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
Once, on my way back from Djibouti, on a B747, a flight attendant made an announcement asking if there was a doctor on board. I was seated right behind the cockpit, and when the door opened, I saw the captain lying on the floor on his back while the doctor was examining him... It sent a chill through the first-class passengers 😱
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
MA Manondugard Regular ·
It’s true that this topic, Madame Manon, is a hot one.

Hey, for me, there’s no such thing as a hot topic, controversial, or taboo. As long as it’s about travel in the broad sense, these are debates where everyone expresses themselves based on their personality and experiences (from my stories, people say I’m a mythomaniac without explanation or discussion. They post something mean and then leave—pfft. The problem is that some people see evil everywhere and only aim to denounce everything they don’t like. No one’s forcing them to read what they don’t enjoy. If a girl says she didn’t wash her butt for 10 days in the desert, I’m not going to point fingers or say she’s exaggerating in her posts and that we should kick her out or delete her posts. Yet, there’d be plenty to say—I personally say nothing, or I tease a little, or I move on. But going as far as wanting long-term sanctions or snitching, I think that’s what annoys a lot of members who end up leaving forums. If you look a bit, you’ll see it’s always the same people acting with perfidy and constantly trying to recruit others to their cause (it cracks me up) 😉
Christine
MA Manondugard Regular ·
Once, on a return flight from Djibouti, on a B747, a flight attendant made an announcement asking if there was a doctor on board. I was seated right behind the cockpit, and when the door opened, I saw the captain lying on the floor on his back while the doctor was examining him... It sent a chill through the first-class passengers 😨

As someone who’s passionate about large aircraft—which I see as beautiful toys rather than just a means of transport—I sometimes take 2-3 seconds to chat with the captains. It’s a real pleasure for me to tell them how much I admire their job and to thank them sincerely for the flight. Their knowing smiles make me think that some of them still have that passion. I sneak a peek into the cockpit, and I can tell from their smiles that the cabin crew understands my enthusiasm, even though I’m never in business class (except once when I was last-minute upgraded by Avianca, where I drank like a demon and ate all the fancy food)😂. Anyway, a plane isn’t a bus—it’s a pure delight to see all those buttons! 🤓
Christine
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
I sometimes manage to speak for 2-3 seconds with the flight commanders. It’s a real pleasure for me to tell them how much I admire their job and to really thank them for the flight.

As for me, it was more than 3 seconds since I’d flown in the cockpit with them on the way there, and once we arrived, we all (the entire flight crew) went diving together in the Gulf of Tadjoura. Speaking of which, the crew shouldn’t have flown again the next day (decompression issue)—normally, you’re supposed to wait at least 2 days... Anyway, I never found out what happened to them because on the way back, I wasn’t in the cockpit anymore. They’d put me in first class, so I could only briefly see what was going on inside when a doctor was at the captain’s side. It turned out the co-pilot was a woman... Personally, I trusted her completely to get the plane safely to its destination, but all the passengers (or nearly all) in first class who’d witnessed the scene were Saudis, and I saw some of them turning pale.😉
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
By the beard of the prophet, what an excellent anecdote! 😄
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
So, while saying goodbye to the CDB (at Roissy), he told me, "You didn’t miss anything (in the cockpit)—the approach was catastrophic!"😏
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY

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