J'ai des amis de France qui viennent me visiter en Chine dans quelques semaines, et les destinations les plus "exotiques" et agreables au niveau de la temperature seraient dans le sud de la chine,
>> J'ai donc choisi le Yunnan
J'imagine qu'ils seront assez contents des paysages comme c'est la premiere fois qu'ils viennent en Asie,
Pour notre part, on revient de vacances du guizhou / guilin (on est parti de guiyang vers guilin pour traverser la contree des Dongs)
Donc a ce qu'on a vu, les rizieres sont seches ... (ou sinon le riz n'attend plus qu'a etre fauche)
Et pas envie de revenir a Guilin/yangshuo encore une fois
Option 1:
(mais je ne sais pas ce que ca va donner comme paysage pour les rizieres)
- Shanghai - Kunming
- Kunming - Jianshui
- Jianshui - Yuanyang
- Yuanyang - Jinhong (en 2 jours apparement)
Et retour Jinhong - Shanghai
Option 2:
- Shanghai - Jinhong
Et ballade aux alentour pour visiter
- les marches : vaut il mieux celui de jeudi ou du dimanche ? Est ce que ca vaut le coup d'y aller vraiment?
- les temples : galaganba, octogonal pavillion
- faire de la rando entre les villages, plantation de the , ...
>> Par contre, certains du groupe sont "contre" le trek, mais ok pour une rando ... donc si tout se fait ~ ds la journee... je ne devrais pas trop me faire tuer ....
(et moi j'ai pas envie de me tapper tous les trucs touristiques / organises par les tours operateurs pour rester son cul assis / faire le voyage bling bling et cocktails )
L'option 2 est plus "cool " (moins de transport)
mais je ne trouve pas bcp de retour positif sur le Xishuangbanna et alentours ?
Bcp de vous disent de le zapper ?
Merci encore pour les conseils,
et si vous avez d'autres tips : hotels / rando "off the beaten tracks", merci de partager !!!!
Bonjour,
Je rentre tout juste du Yunnan, je peux donc te dire que question Paysages c'est une bonne région pour en découvrir de très différents.
Je me suis rendu à Jianshui, c'est une belle ville avec pas mal de chose à voir, la campagne alentour est aussi agréable. Il à le village de Tuanshan à 13km de Jianshui à visiter que vous pouvez combiner avec le pont du double dragon (ancien pont à 17 arches) sur la même route.
Les rizières en terrasse de Yuanyang sont magnifiques et spectaculaires mais il faut croiser les doigts pour qu'il n'y est pas de brume le jour des ballades. Question Pratique, il faut se rendre à l'ancienne ville de Yuanyang ( à 30km de la nouvelle ville) de là il faut solliciter (Enfin on vient vous solliciter) pour avoir un chauffeur à la journée qui va vous emmener à différents endroit pour pouvoir voir les rizières du levé au couché du soleil (vous pouvez rester le temps qu'il vous plait aux différents stops du chauffeur pour entrer à l'intérieur des rizières par exemple...). Par contre l'accès aux Rizière est malheureusement payant, il faut donc compter le chauffeur (300RMB pour le véhicule/ mais je pense que vous pouvez négocier à 200) + l'entrée (200RMB par personne).
Sinon je ne me suis pas rendu dans le Xishangbanna car trop éloigné (effectivement il faut 2 jours pour s'y rendre depuis Yuanyang (contre 9h depuis Kunming)). Je ne peux donc te dire si cela vaut la peine, je sais simplement que la région est tropical et que l'ambiance est d'avantage comme en Asie du sud.
Sinon dans le même coin (à 5/6h de Jianshui et 5h de Kunming) je peux vous conseiller le village de Puzherei, c'est plus ou moins les mêmes paysages qu'à Guilin (Montagnes en pain de sucre, à la place de la rivière Li c'est un lac rempli de lotus, Rizières) l'avantage c'est que c'est épargné par le tourisme de masse et du coup beaucoup plus authentique, et on peux faire facilement des randos à la journée (demandes moi si tu veux plus d'info à se sujet).
Question hébergement, ce n'est pas très chère, je n'est pas payé plus 120RMB la chambre double (on était 2 donc 60 par Tête!)
Voilà j'espère t'avoir un peu éclairé... Il à aussi pleins d'autres choses à ne pas manquer dans le Yunnan si vous avez le temps...
"Connaissant" un peu les deux je choisirais Kunming, Jianshui et Yuanyang. Le Xishuangbanna est loin et "peu chinois"; on se croirait soit en Birmanie soit au Laos et les paysages ne sont pas aussi spectaculaires que ceux des environs de Yuanyang.
L'idéal vu que vous n'avez que peu de temps serait de louer une voiture pour vos 5 jours; ça vous permettra d'effectuer toutes les excursions hors de Jianshui et d'aller un peu partout dans les environs de Yuanyang et notamment le marché du dimanche à Laomeng; louez-là dès votre arrivée (en avion ?) à Kunming et allez dormir à Shilin pour y visiter la Forêt de pierres en fin de journée après la foule des touristes chinois.
En résumé :
Jour 1 : vol vers Kunming; nuitée à Shilin
Jour 2 : route vers Jianshui; après-midi visite de la ville
Jour 3 : matinée visite de Tuanshan et du pont des Deux Dragons; après-midi route vers Yuanyang
jour 4 : visite des rizières
Jour 5 : retour à Kunming et vol retour vers Shanghai
Assez d'accord avec SMika en ce qui concerne Jianshui et ses environs; on peut ajouter à ses suggestions dans les environs de Jianshui la grotte aux hirondelles.
Je ne partage pas par contre son point de vue sur Puzuhei que j'ai trouvé plutôt fade par rapport à d'autres lieux plus extraordinaire dans les environs (Bamei, Leye, Xingyi, ...) et sa comparaison (celle du Lonely Planet !!) avec Guilin/Yangshuo est assez étonnante. S'il pouvait s'en expliquer ça me donnerait peut être une vision différente de celle que j'ai eue.
D'autres infos :
Retour d'une visite des rizières en terrasse à Yuanyang (Chine)
De Hong Kong à Zhongdian (Shangri La) et retour en deux mois. Infos pratiques.
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
Juste j'ai bien compris que vous me conseillez davantage jianshui et yuanyang,
Par contre les rizieres sont irriguees la ? Juste pour savoir niveau photo ce que ca donnera : sec / irrigue / riziere verte ou jaune
Bon bah ... je vais en avoir vu de la riziere cette annee :)
Si vous avez deja fait le xishuangbanna pour les autres, juste pouvez me confirmer si "ca vaut le coup" de le faire une autre fois ?
L'option 2 est plus "cool " (moins de transport)
mais je ne trouve pas bcp de retour positif sur le Xishuangbanna et alentours ?
Bcp de vous disent de le zapper ?
JE ME SUIS BALAD2 AU xishuangbana en septembre 2007, j avais bccp aime (campagne, minorités ethniques tres variees sur quelques km seulement, par contre pour une duree aussi courte, je nevois pas d autre solution que de louer un voiture avec un guide de preference:les transports locaux ne sont pas tres nombreux et pas vraiment prevus pour le tourisme
"Connaissant" un peu les deux je choisirais Kunming, Jianshui et Yuanyang. Le Xishuangbanna est loin et "peu chinois"; on se croirait soit en Birmanie soit au Laos et les paysages ne sont pas aussi spectaculaires que ceux des environs de Yuanyang.
Le Xishuangbanna est loin et "peu chinois"; on se croirait soit en Birmanie soit au Laos et les paysages ne sont pas aussi spectaculaires que ceux des environs de Yuanyang.
Bonjour Ragamuffin et mariecurry,
OK; mais dans l'absolu, est-ce ce que cela vaut le coup d'y aller, pour qui a un peu de temps (ce qui est mon cas)?
Car pour moi qui habite en Chine et n'a jamais mis les pieds en Birmanie ni au Laos, ressembler à ces pays ne me semble pas être un handicap. D'autant que je me débrouille en mandarin (pas parlé partout en Chine, loin de là, on est bien d'accord), mais je ne parle ni ne lis pas un mot de birman ni de laotien.🙂
Oui bien sûr mais à condition de commencer par là pour ensuite remonter via Luchun vers Yuanyang et Jianshui.
Je n'ai pas pris cette route mais on en dit monts (😛) et merveilles.
Je venait de Dali via Lincang et Lancang. A proximité de cette dernière la ville de Menglian (aucun touristes)
Ensuite ce fut Jinghong avec la fête de Songkran (fête de l'eau) et tout (le mot est faible) le folklore (et ses masses de touristes) qui tourne avec.
Donc le Xishuangbanna je l'ai visité à un moment particulier (Avril)
L'endroit qui m'a le plus accroché fut Ganlanba devenu hélas un "parc d'attraction" dont subsiste encore un monastère avec temple et quelques "vieilles"maisons", la Chine "authentique" quoi !
Côté marché coloré celui du dimanche à Laomeng (entre Luchun - on dit qu'il y aurait là aussi un marché intéressant - et Yuanyang) dépasse de loin celui de Menghai près de Jinghong.
Si tu as le temps fais un stop à Shiping (ville sympa et sans touristes) et va visiter le petit village de Zhengyin (aucun touristes)
Allez, quelques photos pour se mettre en appétit :
1 à 4 Menglian
5 route entre Lancang et Jinghong
6 à 9 monastère et pagode octogonale de Jingzhen
10 à 13 pagode Manfeilong près de Damenglong
14 et 15 statues d'éléphants à Jinghong
16 à 17 "vieilles maisons" à Ganlanba
18 et 19 monastère à Ganlanba
20 tenue correcte de rigueur pour la visite du monastère de Ganlanba 🤪
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
Le circuit de Ragamuffin me semble pas mal 😉
L'idéal serait quand même de caler votre séjour sur le marché de Yuanyang tous les 5 jours ou de Laomeng chaque dimanche (2h de route de Yuanyang)
Ce site vous donne les dates de marchés à venir, donc impossibilité de s'organiser très en avance
http://www.yunnanexplorer.com/calendar/markets/
Attention, il y a 5 nouvelles gares routières à Kunming (et suppression des anciennes)
Le guide Michelin (presque en intégralité sur google books) sorti en février de cette année ne prend pas en compte ces changements qui sont intervenus en novembre 2009. J'ai fait une page là dessus sur mon site
Pour ceux qui lisent le chinois, le site yunnan explorer a photographié les panneaux indicateurs des gares.
J'en profite pour rectifier qq infos du guide Michelin sur Yuanyang
Les chambres de l'hôtel gouvernemental sont à 90 yuans hors saison
Xiayu a quitté son restaurant depuis au moins 2 ans
A Panzhihua, la demeure du Tusi ne date pas de 1922 mais de 2004. Oui vous avez bien lu 🙂 C'est peut-être une réplique d'une demeure ancienne ? Allez savoir
Le meilleur moyen de se renseigner à yuanyang c'est quand même d'aller à Windows of Yuanyang
http://www.yuanyangwindow.com/
Euh juste derniere petite question,
Quelqu'un aurait un contact et une idee des prix pour louer un voiture ?
De jianshui a Yuanyang ? (tout en faisant des etapes sur la route ?)
Louer une voiture me parait une bonne idée, mais la dernière fois que j'étais en Chine (il y a 5 ans), on ne louait pas de voiture aux détenteurs d'un permis de conduire étranger. Il fallait passer un permis en Chine pour pouvoir y conduire.
Cela a-t-il changé? Ou m'aurait-on tout simplement raconté des carabistouilles...?
Je retourne en Chine dans deux semaines, principalement pour rendre vsite à une amie à Shenzhen, mais je prévois aussi une semaine qq part. Je connais déjà Kunming (2 fois) et le Xishuangbanna, mais j'adorerais aller à Jianshui et Yuanyang. Quel serait le meilleur (plus court) moyen de se rendre directement dans cette zone? Y a-t-il une ville avec un aéroport dans cette petite région (plus proche que Kunming)? Y a-t-il une liaison ferroviaire entre Nanning et Jianshui? Une liaison de car (je crains le pire pour la longueur du trajet)?
Merci de vos retours.
Matteon
PS: je suis nouveau sur ce forum. Pensez-vous qu'il faille que j'ouvre une nouvelle discussion avec ma question?
PS: je suis nouveau sur ce forum. Pensez-vous qu'il faille que j'ouvre une nouvelle discussion avec ma question?
oui
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
En Chine, on parle toujours implicitement de location de voiture avec chauffeur, car effectivement, seuls les étrangers résidents peuvent passer l'examen de code qui permet de valider leur permis étranger. De toute façon, les voitures sont louées aussi cher sans chauffeur qu'avec.
Il y a un aéroport dans le Xishuangbanna : JHG, situé à Jinghong, appelé suivant les cas Jinghong ou Xishuangbanna. Nombreux vols vers Kunming, quelques uns vers un aéroport du nord du Yunnan (Lijiang ? j'ai oublié) . Le plein tarif est bon marché.
Attention : KMG (Kunming) doit déménager en 2012 vers un site excentré, l'aéroport actuel étant enclavé dans l'agglomération. Pas de navette de bus JHG - centre ville, mais cela ne coûte pas cher en taxi.
Entre temps, j'ai pu me rendre compte qu'il y a maintenant une voie express entre Kunming et certaines villes du sud de la province (qui rejoindra un jour Jinghong, j'imagine) et qui permet de se rebdre à JianShui en 3 ou 4 heures ce qui en fait un trajet tout à fait correct. Et j'ai cru comprendre d'après les discussion de ce forum que Yuanyang se trouve à 2 heures 30 plus au sud.
Je crois que ce sera notre choix.
6h, c'est en effet l'ordre de grandeur du temps de parcours Kinming - Yuanyang en car, de mémoire.
Attention, la gare routière de Kunming a déménagé à 20 km du centre ville. Elle sera desservie par le métro, en construction quand j'y suis passé. Ca change beaucoup à Kunming, ces temps ci.
Nous avions loue une voiture avec chauffeur,
Nous n'avions pas pris de bus pour avoir la liberte de partir quand nous le voulions,
(je peux te donner le numero du chauffeur - tres gentil )
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Hi,
July 2026: I’m writing to you from Dali.
First, I got scammed on Booking—AI-retouched photos. No tourists at this hotel (Yishanju Designer Hotel), and the reality was horrible: dirty, with a disgusting breakfast. It’s better to use Trip.com here.
Next, the old town was an infernal cacophony, packed with tourists who shoved past without a care. Some vendors harassed you to buy things. All the stalls sold the same cheap plastic junk or other uninteresting stuff. The beautiful scenery was ruined by vendors lining 100% of the alleys. Impossible to walk, crushing heat, nothing good to eat except fresh fruit. Horrible experience.
Day 2: We went to Cangshan Mountain by cable car—the ride was short and nothing spectacular. We were at 2,600 m.
My plan was to see Erhai Lake. Unfortunately, I followed the advice of an AI chatbot: take the boat at Langkan Dock. The Didi dropped us off in the nearest area, which was full of charming little alleys but packed with Chinese tourists. The three-wheeled yellow cabs zoomed through the narrow streets, forcing you to hug the walls, on top of the scooters and other pedestrians to deal with. Crossing the neighborhood was hellish and suffocating. Once out, we hit the "corniche," which was also packed with Chinese tourists. The lake’s edge was all pebbles, and everyone was standing around taking photos. I was with my 5-year-old son. I would’ve liked to sit down and let him play with stones by the water, but it was clear we didn’t belong. They were even shoving each other for a shot! There were no boats in sight. In short, we’d had enough, and there was nothing interesting there either.
On the way back, we had to cross that maze again under the scorching sun. My son was braver than me—I even had a little dizzy spell from all the chaos. Add to that Dali’s altitude (2,200 m), so altitude insomnia, fatigue, and vulnerability during the day...
The restaurants weren’t inviting—the staff served sticky rice in a little bucket. The dishes were wrapped, and you had to figure it out yourself. After that, they ignored you completely, even if you were the only tourist.
On the 3rd day, it was time to leave for Shaxi. I hope to see beautiful villages. But honestly, I’m exhausted by this atmosphere where everything is complicated, communication is never smooth, noise is everywhere, and the behavior of some Chinese people is abusive...
Silver lining: not a drop of rain in 4 days and blue skies.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there...
But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
Here are some tips from our 6-week trip (summer 2026) to China, Vietnam, and Cambodia. We traveled as a family of four with two kids aged 15 and 12.
I hope these notes help other travelers!
CHINA
General
You’ll need to download and set up a few apps:
- Alipay and WeChat for payments (I didn’t withdraw a single bill the entire trip)
- Didi for taxis
- Amap = Chinese Maps (works great, especially for subways)
- A translation app (we used Papago, but it sometimes gave weird results)
- Google Lens for translating menus or signs—super handy.
- HelloRide for bikes
- Gemini and ChatGPT for everything: understanding daily life, enhancing visits, checking the weather, finding things.
- HomeExchange if you want to lower travel costs (few listings in Asia except in big cities, often expats)
- Trip.com is very useful, even essential, for trains, domestic flights, and hotels. Like Booking.com, the more you book with them, the more perks you get. So I’d even suggest checking flight tickets on this site, even if it’s a bit pricier. However, buying train tickets is complicated because (1) they only open 15 days in advance, and (2) they sell out fast. Trip.com just promises to buy them as soon as they’re available but doesn’t always succeed. It’s stressful and might force you to change your plans, especially if you’re aiming for a sleeper car and there are no seats left. Watch out for station names—many cities have multiple stations, including a high-speed rail one outside the city.
For internet, we got the Asia plan from Holafly. It worked but seemed much slower than Chinese internet. I regretted not buying a Chinese SIM card because without internet in China, everything is VERY complicated (money, transport, etc.).
For the firewall, we used ExpressVPN, but it wasn’t always reliable. A bit disappointing. Ask ChatGPT for tips with screenshots to improve the settings.
Since we only had one SIM card with internet, we couldn’t rent shared bikes. If I were to do it again, I’d get a SIM for each person, even the kids, because distances in cities are huge. We walked *a lot*. Same goes for buses—it’s tricky with just one internet connection. Better to have a phone per person with internet.
Book your visits as far in advance as possible—they often sell out.
Watch out for power banks: if they don’t explicitly say "3C," they’ll confiscate it. Even if there’s a little airplane logo.
Shanghai
In the evening, the streets leading to the Bund from the metro were so crowded that police were out in force blocking roads. Arrive early. We went around the north side.
Suzhou
Be careful—there are two stations (common in China), and the high-speed rail one is 45–50 minutes from the old town.
The Humble Administrator’s Garden was *packed*—we don’t recommend it. It turned into a marathon day from Shanghai (almost 4 hours from our hotel to the garden).
Beijing
Forbidden City: Don’t go—I know it’s a shame, but it’s too crowded. I couldn’t buy tickets on the official site because of the kids’ passports. We ended up with a guided tour, the only way to get in (tickets sell out fast). The visit was disappointing—bad guide *and* massive crowds. You’ll queue a lot to enter and see certain areas. You’ll be checked often, so pack your bags carefully.
Great Wall at Mutianyu: Crowded. Two hours by bus, and even though we arrived early, people were already leaving! I really think the best option is to leave your big bags in Beijing and stay overnight near the Wall. That way, you’ll have it to yourself a bit more. For transport: get off at Tiananmen Square metro and look for buses with official guides in bright yellow-green vests. No need to buy tickets online—they made me cancel mine to rebook on the spot. Buses leave when full. Note: the cable car and chairlift are separate—if you want to go up one side and down the other, you’ll need different tickets. The endless queue for the toboggan ride put us off.
Quick tip: Incredible swimming spot in Beijing—on the north shore of Houhai Lake, you can swim by crossing the barrier. We did it twice with about ten other people. Bring a swimsuit!
Shapotou Desert
Amazing, but it gets *very* hot in the afternoon. We had a tent (not an air-conditioned bungalow), which was unbearable during the day. We hung out in the restaurant.
The paid activities are fun, except the camels—they look sad. The real highlight is the evening and sunset. The only downside: you can’t explore the desert alone or far—they don’t rent 4x4s, for example.
We stayed at "The Desert Camping Hotel of the Proprietress of Shapotou." They were lovely.
Zhongwei
Gaomiao Temple and its underground: Fun and short—you’ll see quirky Buddhist hell paintings.
Xi’an
Terracotta Army: We took a Didi because for four people, a car was almost the same price as four shuttle tickets. It was packed—chaotic to see properly.
We visited the halls in order: 3, 2, then 1—a good choice.
Hua Shan Mountains: Left before sunrise to arrive when the ticket office opened (7 AM, I think). We were shocked to see so many people already coming down.
45 minutes by bus to the west cable car, then 15 minutes up.
We did the west, south, east, central, then north peaks (in that order) before taking the other cable car down (you can buy the ticket at the top). A beautiful day.
In the city, check out...
Chengdu
Panda Research Center: Like Hua Shan, plan to arrive when the ticket office opens. Already *tons* of people, and it moves fast to see the big pandas before their nap. Have them drop you at the west entrance (not south), or you’ll have to walk uphill.
Leshan Giant Buddha: Interesting. The trip is a bit long (metro, then train, then city bus, then shuttle on-site). We didn’t take the boat option but walked. In the end, you only spend a few minutes at the Buddha’s feet, but it’s a nice day out.
Hotel tip: Panda Enjoy Home Hotel Apartments (Chengdu East Railway Station Dongda Road Branch). The view is insane, and the neighborhood is super convenient and nice. 646 CNY for 2 nights.
Swimming: The municipal pool is an interesting experience, but don’t expect to swim—no one does. Everyone just splashes around where they can stand. The hours are a bit odd, with a break in the late afternoon.
Kunming
The bike path along Dian Lake is pretty and often well-protected from cars. But like everywhere in China, it’s *packed*. Not much to say about visits—the flower market is a wholesale market, not very interesting. The ethnic minorities museum closed right in front of us.
All the big malls are good for shopping.
Dali
We thought we could bike around the lake in two days. Wrong on two counts: First, the lake’s edge is blocked to traffic and reserved for bikes (or tourist mini-buses). So you’re stuck on the main road, which never gives you a view of the lake, with all the trucks and cars. Doing 120 km like that wouldn’t make sense, in our opinion. The rice fields around are nice but not as impressive as elsewhere, so Dali isn’t worth it for that.
The old town, all restored, is pretty but *packed*—thousands of people, especially in the evening.
Hekou (Vietnam border)
Comfortable train from Kunming. In the parking lot, a bus (not well-marked, but Didi is an option) takes you to the border in 15–20 minutes. Short wait at both border posts. Fun to see the two lampposts near the border line: the Chinese one is new, modern, with a surveillance camera (of course), while the Vietnamese one is old and a bit rusty.
VIETNAM
General:
- You’ll need the Grab app for taxis
- Very disappointed with 12Go—it doesn’t show all buses, never connects you with the company, and refuses refunds. Try booking directly with companies like FUTA Bus instead.
- Credit cards are often accepted (supermarkets and modern stores), otherwise, you’ll need cash
Lao Cai
2 km between the border and the train station.
The sleeper bus to Hanoi with Sao Viet is well-organized—it works.
Hanoi
Ho Chi Minh Mausoleum closes early (10:30 AM, I think).
Women’s Museum: Very good, not too long
Temple of Literature: Beautiful, fairly quick
This is where you should buy souvenirs, clothes, and knockoffs—the prices are reasonable, and the sellers are nicer than elsewhere. We recommend Cho Dong Xuan.
Tu Long Bay
We did 2 days, 1 night (so really 24 hours on the boat) with Parfum d’Automne (French-speaking agency), which put us on a Cycad Cruise boat. Cost: 300 € per person—expensive, but it was amazing, super luxurious, and the buffet meals were delicious. We don’t regret the splurge. The only downside: no swimming in the bay (but there’s a pool on the boat). To swim, you’d need a 3-day, 2-night trip to an area not protected by the maritime park.
Phong Nha
If you didn’t do the northern mountains due to time or weather (like us), Phong Nha is a great stop for a motorbike ride. It’s beautiful, especially the mountains west of the city toward the caves.
There are two (small) swimming spots at the Botanic Garden—a pleasant 45-minute walk without stops.
Hotel tip: Sunbeam Village (very friendly, pool, breakfast by the river, motorbike rentals)
Da Nang
Hotel tip: Meridians by Hsuite—you’ll have the beach almost to yourself. You’ll still need to walk 15–20 minutes to the hyper-touristy area if you want to rent surfboards (150–200k VND per hour).
The beach is beautiful, and the water is 30°C—great for a break on a long trip, especially since all transport goes through Da Nang.
Hoi An
45 minutes from Da Nang, so it’s easy to visit in a day, especially since the city isn’t that big and it’s *very* hot.
Cooking class: MS Hanh cooking class—great (the market tour is a bit useless). We don’t recommend the "basket boat" tour—it’s a bit sad on a big brown pond with elderly guides.
Ho Chi Minh City
Ben Thanh Market is a nightmare: starting prices are exorbitant, and the vendors are aggressive. Don’t go.
The War Remnants Museum can be really tough for kids.
Can Tho
Avoid this city. We made the mistake of going to see the floating market—don’t.
Chau Doc
No Grab in the city, but regular taxis.
One day is enough if you go early to the forest and the mountain in the late afternoon.
250k VND per person for the forest and its canals (45 minutes by motorbike)
The sunset at Victoria Nui Sam can be magnificent if the clouds cooperate.
Cheap and good restaurant: Quan Nem Nuong Sau Hiep
Hotel tip: Homestay Khoa (2,250,000 VND for 3 nights)—adorable hostess, full of tips, clean rooms.
The speedboat to Cambodia is more comfortable than a bus. Book with Hangchau a few days in advance—payment in cash on the day (1,640,000 đ).
CAMBODIA
General:
- Issues with the "Bakong Tourists" app—we had to go to a big bank to load money onto it. We barely used it afterward.
Phnom Penh
For us, a day and a half is enough if you want to spend more time elsewhere.
Markets close early (around 6 PM) and are less interesting than in Hanoi, for example.
The Royal Palace has a break from 11 AM to 2 PM, but there aren’t many people in the afternoon.
Siem Reap
Trip with Capitol company—the bus is basic but cheap. Departs at 10:15 AM, 7-hour ride.
Angkor entrance fee: 62 USD per person for a 3-day pass. Tickets are picked up at Angkor Enterprise.
Renting two 125cc motorbikes: 10 USD each, plus 7 USD for gas.
By bike, it took me 25 minutes to reach Angkor Wat’s pools. A basic city bike rental was 1 USD per hour.
Short circuit by motorbike (in reverse): 7 hours with stops everywhere.
Grand tour by tuk-tuk: Only 5 temples, 4.5 hours.
If you want to see lots of monkeys, they’re grouped west of Bayon.
For the temples, we asked Gemini (AI) at each stop to point out details that might interest kids (who can get bored with the repetition). It gave fun facts and things to look for—great for the little ones.
Hotel tip: The Five Senses, run by a Frenchman, Bruno, who knows Cambodia inside out and organizes tours.
Restaurant tip: Wild (only spring rolls, but *so* many varieties—delicious and cheap)
Watch out: 1 hour to the airport, 50 km from the city.
Show tip: The Phare Circus
Hi everyone,
To simplify logistics, I'm considering renting a car for 5/6 days in the Japanese Alps before heading to Kyoto solo.
Is driving difficult or even risky in this region?
Thanks for your feedback!
Tara
We’re arriving as a group of three in Tokyo on Saturday, October 17th, then heading straight to Kyoto by direct train.
On Sunday and Monday, we’ll explore Kyoto, and in the evening, we’ll take a train to Osaka to spend the night.
On Tuesday, we’ll pick up a rental car at Itami Airport for a 6-day/5-night road trip around Shikoku:
- 2 nights in the Iya Valley
- Thursday morning, we’ll head to Matsuyama for 2 nights.
- Saturday, we’ll visit Mima (town, a few temples + overnight stay) and return on Sunday to drop off the car in Osaka.
We’ll leave very early on Monday the 26th by plane for Aomori in northern Honshu, where we’ll pick up another rental car at the airport for a 5-day/4-night trip:
- Day 1: Tsugaru Peninsula (Takayam Inari, Cape Tappi, Kanita); overnight in Kanita
- Day 2: Ferry transfer to the Mutsu Peninsula (cliffs, Lake Usori); overnight in Shimofuro
- Day 3: Head to the Hakkoda Mountains and onsens galore; overnight TBD
- Day 4: Return the car in Aomori by noon and explore the city before taking the train to Tokyo in the evening
We’ll spend Friday night in Tokyo, wander around on Saturday, and head home on Sunday.
Thoughts on the road feasibility of this trip? We’ll be there right in the middle of Koyo season, so it’ll be busy...
I know it’s a lot of driving, but there are two of us who can take turns. We’re not afraid of driving, even in the mountains and on the left side! Just wondering, are we going to be rushing, or is this manageable? AI says it’s all good, but it’s not the one driving...
Any tips for booking accommodations in the Iya Valley? Not many places have email addresses or websites (I know Booking.com exists, but not all listings are on there... and given the season, I think it’s better to book ahead!). Same question applies for northern Honshu.
For the rental car, I’m thinking of going with Alamo since at least it’s in French and straightforward, but are there any direct rental companies with user-friendly websites (Toyota Rentacar, ugh... 🏴☠️)?
Another question: With so many trains, is it even necessary to book them in advance? Can we just go to the ticket counter and grab seats on the spot?
For paying for the rental car, do we need a credit or debit card?
I saw there are several "authentic" villages about 90/100 km from Beijing.
Including: Lingshui, Liuliqu, Sangyu, Miaoying, and Cuandixia.
Has anyone visited any of them? I was thinking of choosing Cuandixia—what do you think?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone!
It seems there’s a flea market in Tianjin that’s way more interesting than the one in Beijing. I’ve been searching online but can’t find the right one… The one I’m looking for is called gu wan shi chang (my PC won’t display the Chinese characters…). Does anyone have the address and has anyone been there before? The one in Beijing has lost a lot of its charm over the past 10 years, so I wanted to find another. Thanks!
Hi,
My departure is coming up soon—two months backpacking in Taiwan, so much to discover! I’d love to hear about your travel experiences.
My main interests are meeting people, understanding how things work, hiking, and nature in general. I’ve also done a lot of reading about Taiwan’s complex situation.
I do stone sculpture.
I also want to visit Orchid Island for its history.
Marie
I’m looking for advice from seasoned travelers about a roughly one-month trip to Japan.
From late October to late November 2026.
We often travel in Southeast Asia but have never been to Japan.
Based on what I’ve read, I’d love to hear your thoughts on:
- Is traveling day-to-day, without booking hotels or trains in advance, possible in Japan?
(I’ve read many travel journals and blogs that say everything was booked way in advance… but that’s not how we usually travel.)
- Will the Japan Rail Pass be worth it for us?
(According to an old simulator, I’m looking at around 400 € for trains compared to 570 € for the JRP.)
Here’s our rough itinerary (which may change):
- Arrival Osaka: 3 nights with Nara
- Hiroshima and Miyajima Island: 3 nights
- Kurashiki or Naoshima: 2 nights
- Himeji: 1 night
- Kyoto: 4 nights
- Kanazawa: 2 nights
- Takayama and Shirakawa-go: 3 nights
- Around Mount Fuji: 3 nights
- Tokyo with Nikko: 6 nights (no theme parks)
Departure from Tokyo
I booked my trip from May 5 to 26, 2027. I’m starting to plan my itinerary and look for hotels (I know it’s early!). While I’ve found some in Seoul and Busan, I’m noticing that elsewhere—like Yeosu—most hotels aren’t available (on Booking.com, for example, almost all are unavailable). AI tells me not to worry because hotels in South Korea only open bookings 6 months in advance, so it’s normal to see most of them unavailable on booking sites.
Could you confirm this for me and, of course, reassure me (!)? Thanks so much.
philippe
We’re back from a one-month trip to China and wanted to share our itinerary. Hopefully, this can give future travelers some ideas for exploring this beautiful country.
Beijing → Temple of Heaven / Forbidden City
Jinshanling → Great Wall
Zhangjiajie → Tianmen Mountain and Heaven’s Gate
Wulingyuan → Avatar Mountains / sandstone pillars
Fenghuang → riverside houses
Ping’an → terraced rice fields
Tiantouzhai → village / rice terraces
Yangshuo → Li River / karst mountains
Shanghai → skyline with the Oriental Pearl Tower
Our travel journal is available on our travel journal, written day by day. You’ll find lots of photos and some travel tips there.
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung.
Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Hi there,
I’d like to do this cycling route over 2 or 3 days. I’m struggling to figure out and find a (good) bike rental that lets me start in Onomichi and drop off in Imabari. Can anyone help with great tips for rentals and accommodations along the route? How do I get back to Onomichi afterward?
Next year, we’re celebrating 20 years of marriage (and travel 🙂), and we’re looking for something new, pretty legendary, and something the teens will enjoy too.
The family council has settled on Japan for now. And it’d have to be a summer trip—no choice there.
The catch: I keep reading that August isn’t the right season for southern Japan. It’s hot, humid, and there’s a risk of typhoons… Okay, but what does that *actually* mean in practice? Are there any travelers who’ve been there during this time? Is it *that* unbearable?
We’re pretty familiar with Southeast Asia—last year, we dealt with scorching heat in Vietnam and insane humidity, plus a typhoon we experienced from a distance, and visiting Angkor in the blazing sun. Is it worse than that?
I’m back with my detailed itinerary for 20 days in South Korea—it’s my first trip to the country. Our idea is to experience a more rural and cultural Korea. Here’s the rough plan: Seoul for 4 nights at the start and 1 night at the end, Gurye for 4 nights, Suncheon for 4 nights, Namhae for 4 nights, and Gyeongju for 2 nights. The goal is to pick a base and explore the surrounding areas. What do you think of this itinerary? Anything you’d change?
thanks
hi everyone, we're heading out for a 12-day trek in the Japanese Alps. We're bringing freeze-dried meals like we always do. We just found out that importing meat is banned, even freeze-dried. Is that true? We already bought them. They're commercially made freeze-dried meals. Online, it's not specified that they have to be "commercially made" because you can make your own freeze-dried food. And since we've heard they're really strict in Japan, can anyone confirm this for us? thanks
I haven’t found what I’m looking for despite my searches!
For a 15-day trip next spring, I’d like to buy a card (preferably an eSIM, but a physical SIM is fine too) that also lets me make calls in the country (to contact a hotel, a tourist spot, etc.).
You can easily find options just for data, but I haven’t come across any that include calls, texts, or even MMS.
Could you recommend something?
hi there
I’m planning a trip in September—here’s my rough itinerary. What do you think? Is it easy to rent a car to get around between my stops? Thanks so much!
Philippe
StopNightsFull daysSeoul44Gurye (Jirisan)43Suncheon43Namhae43Gyeongju21Seoul1—
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it.
2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them.
3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days
Gyeongju: 2 days
Busan: 3 days
Jeju: 4 days
Seoul: 2 days
Hi there,
My girlfriend (23) and I (24) are heading to Japan for the first time from October 20th to November 6th. Here’s our itinerary:
6 nights in Tokyo
1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked)
4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked)
2 nights in Osaka
4 nights back in Tokyo
I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno.
I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better.
Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Hi there,
I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026.
The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting.
Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback?
Is there a better option?
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this!
Michel
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I’m traveling to Japan with a young adult with autism (ASD) from July 28 to August 8, following a pretty classic route: Osaka, Hiroshima, Kyoto, and Tokyo. I’m looking for a schedule of the most spectacular fireworks displays during that time. So far, the dates for the major *hanabi* events aren’t available online yet. If anyone has them, I’d really appreciate it if you could share!
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited.
I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest?
Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?