Voyage à vélo en Chine: tampon spécial sur le passeport?
by Ranlo77
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
salut a tous(tes)
Je vais rejoindre prochainement la chine via le Laos (à BOTEN), en vélo, donc, et par voie terrestre.
J'aurais en ma possession un visa de base chinois. Avant cela, j'avais bien évidement évoqué mon périple en vélo au service chinois qui délivre les visas sur paris . et là, panique chinoise face a cet espion potentiel!!! Un papelard m'autorisant à barouder en vélo m'était nécéssaire. On m'a d'abords envoyé a l'office du tourisme, puis dans une agence de voyage accrédité. Aucun n'avait entendue parler de cela ni ne savait comment faire... Je vais donc m'en passer...
Ma question pour les cyclos ayant déjà visité la chine dernièrement en vélo : il y a t'il un tampon spécial sur le passeport, un papier qqconk, qui montrerait a la police en cas de contrôle que je n'ai pas d'autorisation... je pense en effet traverser la frontière non pas au guidon de mon engin, mais assis dans un bus, vélo en soute....
merci bcp.
Toute(s) autre(s) suggestions sera médité..................
ranlo
J'ai voyagé en Chine en décembre 2009 avec mon vélo et je n'ai eu aucune autorisation spéciale.
Les chinois n'ont pas besoin de donner des autorisations spéciales car les chinois savent de toute façon où tu vas car les hotels annoncent systématiquement les touristes via internet. J'ai été une fois controlé dans un hotel par la police mais la présence d'un visa pour le Laos dans mon passeport les a tranquilisé sur mes intentions car cela montrait que je ne me rendait pas au Tibet.
Mon opinion est que finalement on a pas mal de liberté de mouvement si on respecte quelques règles de "diplomatie" mais on est très surveillé. Je suppose que les autorités vont par exemple vérifier si le trajet que tu effectues est en accord avec ce que tu as annoncé sur la demande de visa.
Le vélo en soute pour passer la frontière, c'est presque dommage...😉
SAlut,
Nous avons passé la frontière à Boten en venant du Laos, en vélo, puis sommes restés trois mois en Chine avant de filer en Mongolie, c'était Juin 2011, je ne crois pas que les formalités aient changé donc si tu as un visa en ordre, ça passe en moins de vingt minutes, personnel très souriant, pas de prise de température ni de questionnaire médical ou argent, rien. Comme sur des roulettes... Bon voyage
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Nous avons passé la frontière à Boten en venant du Laos, en vélo, puis sommes restés trois mois en Chine avant de filer en Mongolie, c'était Juin 2011, je ne crois pas que les formalités aient changé donc si tu as un visa en ordre, ça passe en moins de vingt minutes, personnel très souriant, pas de prise de température ni de questionnaire médical ou argent, rien. Comme sur des roulettes... Bon voyage
www.migrationsenbent.ff
Nathalie
nous avons franchi la frontière Vietnam-CHine cet été 2011 sans aucun souci en 20 minutes avec un très bon accueil.
Une fois dans le pays, les déplacements sont totalement libre sauf :
- dans les zones où un permis est nécessaire (le tibet bien entendu, peut-être d'autres régions à vérifier dans un guide ou demande à l'office du tourisme à Patris (joignable par tél)?)
- toutes les autoroutes (Expy sur google maps) sont interdites au vélo et certaines (rares) portions de routes nationales (Gxxx) (impossible à savoir avant lesquelles! pour notre part, on a quand même pris cesportions car il n'y a aucune autre route sur les cartes... mais les chinois les prennent aussi avec toute sorte de véhicule et les policiers croisés ne nous ont rien dit...)
Certains rapportent encore une confiscation du lonely planet (même en 2011) aux frontières donc à planquer ou retirer la carte qui montrent l'indépendance de Taiwan and co
bon voyage, la Chine c'est dépaysant et chaque jour est une découverte!!
Certains rapportent encore une confiscation du lonely planet (même en 2011) aux frontières donc à planquer ou retirer la carte qui montrent l'indépendance de Taiwan and co
bon voyage, la Chine c'est dépaysant et chaque jour est une découverte!!
salut a vous
vous me confirmer donc, qu aucune reglementation particuliere ne vous a ete necessaire l ete dernier pour passer la frontiere sur vos velos............le visa et c est marre.
j ai depuis, recuperer 3 mois de visa et ne voudrais surtout pas tout foutre en l air> je le repete mais dans la reglementation generale, le velo est mis dans le meme sac que sa propre voiture ou qu une ....mongolfiere>>> si si je l ai lu.
merci
loran
SAlut,
Je confirme ce que Konetuj te disent, nous sommes passés en Chine une fois depuis le Laos à Boten, une autre fois depuis le Kirghizistan à Irkestam, et toujours rapidement. Garde l'adresse de l'hôtel que tu as réservé, au cas où ils te demandent mais moi, dans les deux cas, une fois le visa obtenu, j'avais tout annulé et me suis contentée de recopier une adresse du Lonely Planet sous leurs yeux. Ca passe tout seul. Seul le col de Torugart depuis le Kirghizistan n'est pas recommandé dans le sens Kirg-Chine, car il faut qu'une agence vienne te chercher côté chinois. Mais partout ailleurs c'est ok.
Bon voyage
http://www.migrationsenbent.fr
Je confirme ce que Konetuj te disent, nous sommes passés en Chine une fois depuis le Laos à Boten, une autre fois depuis le Kirghizistan à Irkestam, et toujours rapidement. Garde l'adresse de l'hôtel que tu as réservé, au cas où ils te demandent mais moi, dans les deux cas, une fois le visa obtenu, j'avais tout annulé et me suis contentée de recopier une adresse du Lonely Planet sous leurs yeux. Ca passe tout seul. Seul le col de Torugart depuis le Kirghizistan n'est pas recommandé dans le sens Kirg-Chine, car il faut qu'une agence vienne te chercher côté chinois. Mais partout ailleurs c'est ok.
Bon voyage
http://www.migrationsenbent.fr
Nathalie
Bonjour,
Pouvez vous me dire où vous êtes allés, après le passage de la frontière entre Vietnam et Laos? Nous partons en Mars 2013, pour un voyage dans l'autre sens. Nous arriverons de Pékin, pour rejoindre la vallée du Mékong, pour la longer depuis le poiont le plus accesible au Nord, jusqu'au delta. Mais j'ai un peu de mal à me faire une idée des régions traversées depuis Pékin, vers le Vietnam.
Hubert
parcours en chine :
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=208029817447737713749.0004a3abf7a20262af0ba&t=p&z=5
parcours au vietnam : http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=208029817447737713749.0004a3abf7a20262af0ba&t=p&z=5
nous n'avons pas pédalé au sud du vietnam (arrivée en avion à Hanoi puis pédalage vers le nord jusqu'en Mongolie avec des étapes en train) nous ne sommes pas allés au laos
le reste du parcours sur notre blog http://www.julienetceline.com/le-trajet-reel.php
dis moi si tu as besoin de plus de précisions
parcours au vietnam : http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=208029817447737713749.0004a3abf7a20262af0ba&t=p&z=5
nous n'avons pas pédalé au sud du vietnam (arrivée en avion à Hanoi puis pédalage vers le nord jusqu'en Mongolie avec des étapes en train) nous ne sommes pas allés au laos
le reste du parcours sur notre blog http://www.julienetceline.com/le-trajet-reel.php
dis moi si tu as besoin de plus de précisions
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Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance