Voyager au Japon
by Chambrette
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour. J’ai besoin de conseils. Nous souhaiterions partir au Japon en octobre prochain. Sur voyage privé cela me semble cher. Nous sommes habitués à faire nos road trip aux States mais là le Japon nous hésitons. Aussi si vous l’avez fait par vos propres moyens aidez moi. C’est faisable ? Ils parlent du train , facile ? Et avec la langue japonaise ? Peut-on se déplacer de ville en ville ? On ne veut pas de voiture. Donc train métro et nos jambes. Merci de vos conseils Lisbeth
lisbeth
Bonjour,
La grande majorité des participants à ce forum voyage par ses propres moyens, sans passer par une agence, car c'est en effet facile à organiser et à réaliser.
Lisez quelques compte-rendu de voyage, quelques fils de discussion, et vous trouverez déjà une mine de réponses à vos interrogations qui apaiseront vos soucis.
La grande majorité des participants à ce forum voyage par ses propres moyens, sans passer par une agence, car c'est en effet facile à organiser et à réaliser.
Lisez quelques compte-rendu de voyage, quelques fils de discussion, et vous trouverez déjà une mine de réponses à vos interrogations qui apaiseront vos soucis.
Je ne suis pas personnellement partie, mais mes parents si. Ils ont organisé leur voyage en s'en sont tirés pour bien moins cher qu'avecun voyage organisé.
Il faut prendre les billets le plus tôt possible pour avoir les meilleurs prix. Mais sinon, une fois sur place il y a possibilité de ne pas payer trop cher, notamment en prenant des AirbNb par exemple.
Beau séjour
Beau séjour
ll y a possibilité de ne pas payer trop cher, notamment en prenant des AirbNb par exemple.
Bonjour,
Ce conseil est largement périmé : une nouvelle loi promulguée le 15 juin 2018 a considérablement restreint l'activité d'AirBnB qui évoluait jusqu'ici dans une zone grise. Les copropriétés et les municipalités ont désormais une grande liberté pour interdire ce genre de locations temporaires, et elles ne s'en privent pas.
Cette précision n'ôte rien au fait que voyager en individuel au Japon est à la fois beaucoup moins cher et plus facile qu'on ne le croit, et également beaucoup plus satisfaisant.
Bonjour,
Ce conseil est largement périmé : une nouvelle loi promulguée le 15 juin 2018 a considérablement restreint l'activité d'AirBnB qui évoluait jusqu'ici dans une zone grise. Les copropriétés et les municipalités ont désormais une grande liberté pour interdire ce genre de locations temporaires, et elles ne s'en privent pas.
Cette précision n'ôte rien au fait que voyager en individuel au Japon est à la fois beaucoup moins cher et plus facile qu'on ne le croit, et également beaucoup plus satisfaisant.
Je confirme qu'il est très simple d'organiser soi-même un voyage au Japon. Surtout un premier voyage dont le but, j'imagine, n'est pas d'aller se perdre dans les endroits les plus reculés (ce que ne proposent pas les agences de toute façon). Ce sera simple à organiser, moins cher et avec plus de souplesse dans le choix de l'itinéraire et des logements qu'en passant par une agence.
Bonjour
J'ai voyagé 4 fois au Japon en organisant moi-même.
1-D'abord déterminer ce que je veux visiter, à l'aide d'un guide papier, sachez que Lonely Planet s'achète par "morceaux" via internet, il ne reste plus qu'à éditer.
2- Lecture des forums pour affiner et dénicher des idées, c'est facile avec le classement par thème ou la recherche par mots clés, selon les forums (voir aussi japanguide forum en anglais ). Site de l'OT Japon , ou Vivre le Japon" ou "Kanpai" qui donnent bcp d'infos pratiques, mais il faut y passer du temps.
3- Hyperdia pour vérifier la faisabilité en train, le coût pour amortissement ou pas du Pass JR, et éventuellement réadaptation du trajet. Je n'ai jamais utilisé les bus longues distances. J'étudie aussi la possibilité de pass JR régionaux, exemple en 2016 entre Fukuoka et Osaka 3 pass régionaux m'ont faits faire des économies par rapport au PASS national pour la même durée 2 semaines. Dans les trains les annonces sont en japonais, anglais, coréen, chinois, avec écriture des gares lisible pour nous. Du personnel dans les gares pour renseigner. Les offices de tourisme donnent des plans, il y a toujours qqu'un parlant anglais. Dans les bus de ville ou tram pas de difficultés.
4-recherche des logements, et réservations (booking ou hostelworld ou agoda) : en effet je réserve tout à l'avance, édite les plans, enregistre à l'avance les adresses dans maps.me (enfin cette année avant non) gps fonctionnant hors internet à condition d'avoir téléchargé les cartes à l'avance. Je reste plusieurs jours au même endroit et voyage en étoile, car les trains sont si rapides! Evidemment ce sont des heures de recherches mais au moins sur place, mon attention est consacrée aux visites, rencontres car quelle tranquillité quand la logistique est prête!
Bon voyage alors
4-recherche des logements, et réservations (booking ou hostelworld ou agoda) : en effet je réserve tout à l'avance, édite les plans, enregistre à l'avance les adresses dans maps.me (enfin cette année avant non) gps fonctionnant hors internet à condition d'avoir téléchargé les cartes à l'avance. Je reste plusieurs jours au même endroit et voyage en étoile, car les trains sont si rapides! Evidemment ce sont des heures de recherches mais au moins sur place, mon attention est consacrée aux visites, rencontres car quelle tranquillité quand la logistique est prête!
Bon voyage alors
Merci d’avoir pris du temps pour me répondre. Puis je vous demander une dernière chose ? Nous avons fait notre parcours. À Tokyo. Nous serons assez loin de plusieurs lieu que nous voulons voir. D’apres Vous est ce facile de prendre le métro chaque jour et de revenir au même hôtel. Nous serons dans le quartier Asakusa. Merci 😊
lisbeth
Merci d’avoir pris du temps pour me répondre. Puis je vous demander une dernière chose ? Nous avons fait notre parcours. À Tokyo. Nous serons assez loin de plusieurs lieu que nous voulons voir. D’apres Vous est ce facile de prendre le métro chaque jour et de revenir au même hôtel. Nous serons dans le quartier Asakusa. Merci 😊
Bonjour,
Où que vous logiez à Tokyo, vous serez toujours loin de quelque chose que vous voulez voir ou faire. Il n'y a pas de difficulté particulière à utiliser le métro, qui est bien signalé et vous mènera partout où vous désirez vous rendre.
Le quartier d'Asakusa se prête parfaitement à être exploré en vélo, moyen qui permet depuis là de visiter les zones adjacentes de Ueno, Akihabara, et de l'autre côté de la rivière Sumida Ryogoku, la tour Skytree, etc.
Bonjour,
Où que vous logiez à Tokyo, vous serez toujours loin de quelque chose que vous voulez voir ou faire. Il n'y a pas de difficulté particulière à utiliser le métro, qui est bien signalé et vous mènera partout où vous désirez vous rendre.
Le quartier d'Asakusa se prête parfaitement à être exploré en vélo, moyen qui permet depuis là de visiter les zones adjacentes de Ueno, Akihabara, et de l'autre côté de la rivière Sumida Ryogoku, la tour Skytree, etc.
D’apres Vous est ce facile de prendre le métro chaque jour et de revenir au même hôtel. Nous serons dans le quartier Asakusa.
Les déplacements dans Tokyo sont très faciles et, surtout, il faut éviter d'avoir le réflexe de prendre les transports en commun pour le moindre déplacement. Beaucoup de choses peuvent en réalité se faire à pied. C'est l'occasion de balades et de belles découvertes dans Tokyo.
Asakusa est néanmoins sur la Ginza Line du Tokyo Metro, ligne interessante qui dessert notamment directement Ginza et Shibuya.
Les déplacements dans Tokyo sont très faciles et, surtout, il faut éviter d'avoir le réflexe de prendre les transports en commun pour le moindre déplacement. Beaucoup de choses peuvent en réalité se faire à pied. C'est l'occasion de balades et de belles découvertes dans Tokyo.
Asakusa est néanmoins sur la Ginza Line du Tokyo Metro, ligne interessante qui dessert notamment directement Ginza et Shibuya.
Oui Kujila a raison, et justement "mapsme" m'a permis d'éviter des trajets en métro, même si parfois sous un pont ou dans des rues étroites le système avait du mal à localiser.
Peut-être savez-vous qu'il est possible de prendre un abonnement temporaire internet qui vous permettrait d'utiliser googlemaps par exemple (d'après les voyageurs, facile à commander, à récupérer et à rendre). Il y a aussi des points wifi libre dans Tokyo (enfin je les ai repérés plutôt dans les rues des quartiers très fréquentés).
La carte rechargeable (suica, pasmo) facilitera le payement des trajets métro.
Bonne continuation dans l préparation de ce voyage.
Google Maps est aussi utilisable offline.
Google Maps géolocalise sans connexion, mais les cartes sont alors grossières. Il est possible néanmoins d’en télécharger de plus détaillées, mais en se connectant à son compte Google, et de façon beaucoup moins conviviale que pour MapsMe.
Tellement peu conviviale que je continue d’utiliser MapsMe quand je n’ai pas de connexion 😛
Sur voyage privé cela me semble cher. Aussi si vous l’avez fait par vos propres moyens aidez moi. C’est faisable ?
Bonjour, Je viens de finir mon voyage au japon au mois de juin. Avec mon amie nous y sommes restée 3 semaines et cela ne nous a pas coûté très cher. Le pays reste relativement cher comparé à la chine, et l'asie du sud est mais nous avons réussi à faire des économies. Notre voyage nous a revenue à 1500 euros à 2. Pour cela nous avons logé dans des guesthouses, limiter nos deplacement en train, fait attention à l'achat de nos souvenirs, manger dans des restaurants traditionnels (5 euros le repas) et parfois nous avons fait la cuisine. Et surtout nous sommes partie en saison basse. Les hebergements sont moins cher.
Nous sommes des backpackeuses parties pour 1 an. Nous avons pas besoin beaucoup de confort mais je pense que cela est quand même possible avec un standing d'hébergement plus élevée. Il faut faire attention mais sans se privée.
Ils parlent du train , facile ? Et avec la langue japonaise ? Peut-on se déplacer de ville en ville ? On ne veut pas de voiture. Donc train métro et nos jambes.
Les transports c'est ce budget là que nous avons fait le plus attention. Nous avons marché dans les villes la plupart du temps. Concernant les grands trajets, le bus de nuit peut être une très bonne solution. Nous avons fait tokyo - kyoto en bus de nuit pour 6100 yens au lieu de 14 000 yens en train.
Concernant, la langue sans parler le japonais nous nous en sommes sorties. Il parle anglais dans les hébergements et dans les villes touriqtiques en général. Mais c'est vrai que ce n'est pas toujours facile. Avec les gestes et google traduction c'est fesable.
J'espère que cela aura répondue à vos questions. Pour en savoir plus, nous avons un blog ( https://mae-ade-voyage.com) où nous allons bientôt publier une fiche pays du japon.
Bonne journée
MaéAdeVoyage
Bonjour, Je viens de finir mon voyage au japon au mois de juin. Avec mon amie nous y sommes restée 3 semaines et cela ne nous a pas coûté très cher. Le pays reste relativement cher comparé à la chine, et l'asie du sud est mais nous avons réussi à faire des économies. Notre voyage nous a revenue à 1500 euros à 2. Pour cela nous avons logé dans des guesthouses, limiter nos deplacement en train, fait attention à l'achat de nos souvenirs, manger dans des restaurants traditionnels (5 euros le repas) et parfois nous avons fait la cuisine. Et surtout nous sommes partie en saison basse. Les hebergements sont moins cher.
Nous sommes des backpackeuses parties pour 1 an. Nous avons pas besoin beaucoup de confort mais je pense que cela est quand même possible avec un standing d'hébergement plus élevée. Il faut faire attention mais sans se privée.
Ils parlent du train , facile ? Et avec la langue japonaise ? Peut-on se déplacer de ville en ville ? On ne veut pas de voiture. Donc train métro et nos jambes.
Les transports c'est ce budget là que nous avons fait le plus attention. Nous avons marché dans les villes la plupart du temps. Concernant les grands trajets, le bus de nuit peut être une très bonne solution. Nous avons fait tokyo - kyoto en bus de nuit pour 6100 yens au lieu de 14 000 yens en train.
Concernant, la langue sans parler le japonais nous nous en sommes sorties. Il parle anglais dans les hébergements et dans les villes touriqtiques en général. Mais c'est vrai que ce n'est pas toujours facile. Avec les gestes et google traduction c'est fesable.
J'espère que cela aura répondue à vos questions. Pour en savoir plus, nous avons un blog ( https://mae-ade-voyage.com) où nous allons bientôt publier une fiche pays du japon.
Bonne journée
MaéAdeVoyage
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https://mae-ade-voyage.com
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Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
Hi there,
My girlfriend (23) and I (24) are heading to Japan for the first time from October 20th to November 6th. Here’s our itinerary:
6 nights in Tokyo 1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked) 4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked) 2 nights in Osaka 4 nights back in Tokyo I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno. I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better. Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Thanks so much!
6 nights in Tokyo 1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked) 4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked) 2 nights in Osaka 4 nights back in Tokyo I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno. I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better. Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Thanks so much!
Hi there.
I’m traveling solo to China in October '26, heading to these spots:
Guilin - Yangshuo - Chengdu – Leshan – Chongqing – Zhangjiajie - Furong – Shanghai
Any guides you’d recommend?
Tons of "agencies" (gowithguide, Hellechinaguide, etc.) offer guides. Can I reach out to them? I also speak English.
Any other tips for me?
Thanks! !
Guilin - Yangshuo - Chengdu – Leshan – Chongqing – Zhangjiajie - Furong – Shanghai
Any guides you’d recommend?
Tons of "agencies" (gowithguide, Hellechinaguide, etc.) offer guides. Can I reach out to them? I also speak English.
Any other tips for me?
Thanks! !
Hi there,
I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026.
The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting.
Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback?
Is there a better option?
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this!
Michel
hi, does anyone have suggestions or contacts for a private local driver without going through a big travel agency for a multi-day trip in Yunnan?
thanks for any info
thanks for any info
Hi there,
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I’m traveling to Japan with a young adult with autism (ASD) from July 28 to August 8, following a pretty classic route: Osaka, Hiroshima, Kyoto, and Tokyo. I’m looking for a schedule of the most spectacular fireworks displays during that time. So far, the dates for the major *hanabi* events aren’t available online yet. If anyone has them, I’d really appreciate it if you could share!
Hi there,
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone, I’m Julien!
This summer, from late June to late July, I’m planning a one-month solo trip to Japan—my first time!
I’d love to hear your thoughts and advice on the itinerary I’ve put together to explore this amazing country.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Hello everyone,
Like Cedric13600, I’ve booked a flight ticket for 30 days / 29 nights in September 2026, from Beijing to Shanghai. We’re a couple in our sixties who love independent road trips.
I’d like to draw inspiration from the following private itinerary suggested by a travel agency:
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Hello everyone,
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
Hi,
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
I'm 69 years old and heading to China, where most tourist sites are free or discounted for me. However, trip.com either refuses to let me book because the sites are free or doesn’t apply the discount. Does WeChat apply this discount if I book through them? How can I just reserve without paying and pay on-site? Is that possible?
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
Hi there,
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
Hi there,
We just got back from a 2-week trip to China as a couple, and before we left, the budget was the hardest thing to picture concretely. We found plenty of info on visas, apps, transport, and itineraries, but way fewer detailed breakdowns of what you *actually* spend on the ground.
So, we took the time to share our real budget for 14 days. In our case, we spent around 1,800 € per person, with a big chunk of that going toward round-trip flights at about 600 € per person. We were also pretty surprised by how affordable China can be once you’re there—transport is often cheap, and a lot of everyday expenses stay reasonable.
The trickiest part, in the end, was figuring out how to pay while you’re there, since it’s not always obvious if you’re not prepared. But once everything’s set up and you get the hang of it, it’s really smooth.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea before they go, we’ve broken it all down here:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-2-semaines-de-voyage-en-chine/
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Hi everyone,
I’ve been planning several itineraries for a trip to Japan with my wife but would love your insights before we start booking!
In short, we want to go during Golden Week, see late-blooming cherry trees, and have the freedom to get around with a rental car.
Here’s the plan:
18-day itinerary in Japan (April 25 → May 12)
Goal: freedom, late cherry blossoms, culture & nature
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
hi! Is it easy to use for paying for all the small purchases at the markets? INSTALLATION AND USE WITHOUT ISSUES—do you also need a VPN for China?
Secondly, for using phone and internet, I have Orange—is it reliable, or should I go with Airalo instead?





