What are the criteria that make you choose one destination over another?
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Choosing a destination to collect dictatorships? Why not, the change of scenery is guaranteed.

The fact is, if you can only travel to countries that meet our European standards, you’ll be exploring Luxembourg in depth for decades to come. Joking aside, when it comes to culture and society, I’m a relativist—I don’t judge.

Michel
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Did I write that?

I travel to dictatorships just as much as to democratic countries. It’s not a deciding factor for me. I take what comes as long as the dictatorship doesn’t create administrative hurdles or put me in danger.

So, scratch Afghanistan, Venezuela, Russia, Iran (right now)...

But Cuba, Eswatini, Indonesia, Malaysia, Morocco, China, Oman—all good for me.
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JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
This reminds me of those who, for principle reasons, refused to fly with airlines from the Persian Gulf. I never followed their lead, though I thought they weren’t entirely wrong. Sometimes, it’s really tricky.
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PO Poste42 Veteran ·
You don’t have to be particularly pessimistic. If it can be positive for the situation of Afghan women, all the better. Tourism can bring improvements to their conditions over time. But I know that’s a very Western way of looking at it.
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
We're not yet in mass tourism territory, but they've had visitors for a few years now. I think when it comes to Ukraine, we'll have to wait a few more years.

I think—I hope—peace will have returned by this summer; everyone has a stake in it. And it's not a destroyed country at all. There's still everything a traveler needs, except for planes.

Michel
PO Poste42 Veteran ·
Places with mines should be avoided. And there must be a lot of them.
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Places with mines should be avoided. And there are probably a lot of them.

Yes, in the frontline areas, but not elsewhere. Ukraine is really big.

Michel
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
If it can have a positive impact on the situation of Afghan women, all the better.

No chance.

Tourism didn’t help Iranian women, even though the Iranian theocracy is less radical than the Taliban’s.

And what woman would want to be denied throughout her entire stay? 🤪

A reporter or an Instagrammer for the sake of their article, but a tourist...
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PO Poste42 Veteran ·
Why should women be denied during their vacations? You have to adapt to the country's conditions when choosing a destination.
PO Poste42 Veteran ·
Among the cities you’ve listed—or the ones I understood you wanted to return to—aren’t any of them affected by mines?
VO Voyajou Globetrotter ·
On Latourex, a fun page full of wit and neologisms, with original criteria and some definitions. For example, you might fall into the category of uxoritourism 😉. And it seems we have a circus enthusiast here who’s also a necrotourist.

A while back, there was a great discussion about Latourex started by Loopkin. It featured some well-known names and the invention of VFTourism.

And more often destinations to the east.

Like the polar jet stream, which Greenlanders consider a bad wind, whether they come from Europe or Russia, dominant (and dominating) ideas now circulate in the same direction.

@Kola

The only place where specialists [...] operate and spin dreams.

Aren’t you confusing them with off-topic specialists? How are they the same? 😮
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Why should women be denied during their vacations?

Haven't you been reading the news?
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PO Poste42 Veteran ·
Too much information kills information
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
So, go there and tell us about it...
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
You didn’t answer my question...😇 ( Kola and Kate didn’t either, by the way)
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Among the cities you listed where I understood you wanted to return, are there any that are affected by mines?

Cities aren’t mined much. While you’ll need to wait a bit for Kharkiv, Sumy, and Chernihiv—probably—visiting Kyiv, Lviv, Ternopil, Vinnytsia, and most others should be possible soon after the airports reopen. Uzhhorod is no problem. Kherson, on the other hand, no.

Michel
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
And you?
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
And going?

When I first visited Kyiv about 10 years ago, I was about to go for a walk but ran out of time. This time too... does that bother you (or y’all)? Sometimes reading you guys, I get the feeling that whenever someone doesn’t see things your way, it triggers your judgments or disapproval—expressed more or less directly. My comment goes for Kola, Voyajou, and you too.

Michel
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
I don’t see where I disapprove of visiting Chernobyl (with proper health precautions in place)?

I think it’s a valuable historical lesson with an educational purpose.

Sometimes when I read your posts, I detect a *hint* of paranoia.

But I could be wrong.
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LI LillieoneFE Veteran ·
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KA Kate Globetrotter ·
You didn’t answer my question... ( Kola and Kate didn’t either, by the way)

What question? To understand, I went back three pages Ahhhh, right! The criteria... If you’d said, “What criteria make you choose this year one destination over another?” I would’ve been more comfortable.

I was reading Voyajou’s amazing document. I love it! And I’m cracking up... Some parts remind me of VF discussions, like when contributors wanted to avoid certain sites at all costs (Taj, Petra... basically anything that attracts crowds and whose photos we’ve already seen, which is enough).

@Voyou, do you know if the creators found an editorial direction? Such creativity and such a deep understanding of what travel is shouldn’t go unnoticed!
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JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Sometimes when I read you, I get the feeling that as soon as someone doesn’t see things your way, it triggers your judgments, your disapproval—expressed more or less directly and openly. My comment applies to Kola, Voyajou, and yourself.

Michel

QED. The same goes for some who’ve chosen not to return. In the past, many discussions weren’t derailed by differing opinions but by the outrageous disapproval of others. Sometimes subtly, in an attempt to provoke a reaction and get them banned.

Once again, I advocate for dialogue in good faith. Besides, those who are respectful usually agree to keep exchanging ideas. The others, unfortunately, remain stuck in the dark side. Stubbornly. A lack of openness, of humanity?
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Just had to read the title...

You don’t have any criteria for choosing your trips?

You could just as easily go to India, the Amazon, or Iceland? Hike the Tour du Mont Blanc, bike across the Andes, or drive a 4x4 in Namibia? No taboos?

I thought you prioritized human connections and that solitude wasn’t really your thing (like trips in the middle of nowhere without meeting anyone except your travel companions).

Am I completely wrong?
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JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Some passages remind me of VF discussions where participants wanted to avoid certain sites at all costs (Taj Mahal, Petra... basically anything that attracts crowds and whose photos we’ve already seen, which is enough for them)

Soon, we won’t have a choice anymore—unless you enjoy being swept away by the crowd... There are places I’m glad I visited a few years ago or even earlier. Now, either they’re overcrowded, hard to enjoy because of selfie sticks ruining the view, or way too expensive.

Some stunning sites disappointed me, like Halong Bay, while I loved its land-based namesake. That’s why the pleasant surprise of discovering magnificent spots that aren’t yet—or barely—touched by tourists was such a treat.

Honestly, those people weren’t wrong—I just think they didn’t nuance their point enough, don’t you think?
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
KA Kate Globetrotter ·
Sometimes when I read you, I get the feeling that as soon as someone doesn’t see things your way, it triggers your judgments and disapproval, expressed more or less directly and openly.

For me, it just feels odd that travelers are thinking about Ukraine right now. The first feeling I get when I think about that country isn’t regret that I can’t go there while hoping the war ends so I can satisfy my desires.
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JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Do you know if the creators found an editorial direction?

Nice slip-up. I would’ve written "Canaillou" instead 😛
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
but above all, history and cultures—the people living in this country are always my priority!...

So, people too.

All people, or do you have more of an affinity with certain cultures?
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KA Kate Globetrotter ·
So, the great surprise of discovering magnificent places not yet—or barely—discovered by tourists was such a treat.

One doesn’t rule out the other. Should a foreigner traveling to Paris run, turn their head, or cover their eyes to avoid seeing the Eiffel Tower at all costs?
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KA Kate Globetrotter ·
@Voyou, do you know if the creators found an editorial direction?

Nice slip-up. I would’ve written "Canaillou" instead 😛

It’s clear we haven’t frequented the same discussions in the past
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
It’s not a slip-up but a nickname that’s been around for over a decade...

I don’t think I read your reply on the subject either?😇

Thailand, but again—why?🙂
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LI LillieoneFE Veteran ·
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PO Poste42 Veteran ·
Cool cool Mme Attila
KA Kate Globetrotter ·
I had the impression that you prioritized human connection and that solitude wasn’t really your thing (meaning traveling in the middle of nowhere without meeting anyone except your travel companions).

Am I completely wrong?

I’m responding, but I don’t have anything exciting to share, and nobody cares anyway! Yes, I do prioritize human connection—I love meeting people, I love cities, I love warmth (the cold paralyzes me), I don’t walk much because I’m too lazy, and I enjoy a bit of contemplative solitude but not too much. Solo travel? Not for me—beauty is meant to be shared. A change of scenery recharges me, visual art in all its forms fulfills me, and I love discovering cuisine that feels “exotic” to me. My big trips always take me back to Asia or North Africa, while my mini getaways are in European cities or nearby. 🙂

But right now, you know what I’m craving? A week in a stunning, expensive hotel on a Seychelles beach, just lounging all day with my partner. 😉
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LI LillieoneFE Veteran ·
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
I don’t know if everyone else doesn’t care.

But everything written here says a lot more about us than our profiles do. 🙂
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
You’re the first, I think, to mention this musical criterion! 😉
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Yes, yes, more than a Taliban! 😇
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Sorry, you had already replied.

But I’ve been wondering about this:

I’ll prioritize a destination I haven’t been to yet.

Then why so many trips to Thailand?
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PO Poste42 Veteran ·
I didn’t write that word—I’m thinking about society as a whole. There’s a difference, right?
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Society is dominated by those who govern it. Right now, it's the Taliban.🤪
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KO Kola Globetrotter ·
QED. The same goes for some who refuse to return. In the past, many discussions weren’t derailed by differing opinions but by others’ outraged disapproval—sometimes subtly, in an attempt to provoke a reaction and get someone banned.

Again, I advocate for dialogue in good faith. Besides, those who are reasonable usually agree to keep exchanging ideas. The others, unfortunately, remain stuck in the dark side. Stubbornly. A lack of openness, of humanity?

Maybe some people personalize debates unreasonably, have an overly reactive sensitivity, and claim—with an unhealthy, greedy complacency—the status of victim or offended party, as if it were a badge of honor...

In your own discussion, where are they, what are they doing?, you say this: I was thinking of those who attack when no one attacked them.

Where do you draw the line on aggression in this discussion? ... @Attila

Times are darkening, yet travel plans still exist. Of course, the planet couldn’t care less if we wander weighed down by its absurdities, eyes damp and heads bowed—even if some places and peoples would be better off without our compulsive zigzagging. But still...

To those who answered the question, here’s another: Does the tectonic shift of geopolitics threatening to reshape the world’s future and redraw its boundaries... do these uncertain times have any influence on your desire to go or project yourself carefreely?
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
don’t these uncertain times have any influence on your desire to travel or to plan carefree trips?

I feel like uncertain times aren’t exactly new. Sure, they’re getting geographically closer, but conflicts have always existed.

On the flip side, the tough times had a silver lining: Europe realized it needs to unite in the face of adversity and not always rely on "unreliable friends."

But we’re kinda drifting off-topic here...
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Laurence,

As they say, you shouldn’t take me for a fool.

I might be a tad paranoid, but I’m not completely clueless.

What I find unhealthy—and what’s made me uncomfortable for a long time, maybe 20 years—is the sticky tone you and Voyajou use to deliver contradictions in stereo, without the guts to confront things head-on. It’s really unpleasant. Some of you might think it’s stylish, but I’m not impressed. In real life, I’m more straightforward than that, and in my work, I can’t afford to be so convoluted—I have a duty to be understood and credible. So here, too, I try to say things in a readable, polite, and clear way. It’s possible you can’t stand my lack of French wit or my libertarian views—whatever you want to call it—but you could at least oppose them frankly.

So when you explain that your allusion to a "bad wind" was a nod to Verlaine, while it was actually meant to discredit someone for their supposed complacency toward fascism, I don’t buy it for a second. When Voyajou later piles on in message 61 of the discussion, I find it heavy-handed and far from subtle. A quick note on your "inclusive" writing... In certain contexts, depending on the audience, it’s debatable; here, honestly, it just feels like activism. There’s no need to keep rehashing old battles if you don’t want to. VoyageForum is big enough for us to chart our own paths without clashing.

Michel
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
I’ve always wondered why a seemingly light topic can turn into a full-blown debate so quickly on this forum.

The question is for everyone.

(I preferred the one in the title, but oh well...)
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KA Kate Globetrotter ·
You’ve been interacting on this forum for years. If Kola gets on your nerves (I think you’re too binary to handle her metaphors ;)), why do you still address her? Why do you always feel targeted? Yeah, it’s true you’re polite. But so is she.
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KA Kate Globetrotter ·
Pugilism seems a bit strong, doesn’t it?
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
A pretty sharp verbal sparring match if you prefer.
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
You’ve been interacting on this forum for years. If Kola gets on your nerves (I think you’re too binary to handle her metaphors 😉), why do you always address her? Why do you always feel targeted? Yes, it’s true you’re polite. But so is she.

I don’t always address her 🙂. And I feel targeted because I am, and you shouldn’t take me for a fool. I love good metaphors—I’m even paid for it sometimes.

Michel
KA Kate Globetrotter ·
I love good metaphors, I even get paid for it sometimes.

Are you a teacher?
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
You a teacher?

Not in the way you mean.

Michel

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