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Voyager ou partir en vacances?
by Cextra
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Et si je suis débecté par un language meprisant a l'egard de gens qui ne genent personne, c'est mon droit.
hihihi, bien sûr que c'est ton droit... tout comme c'est le doit de Cextra de.... bon, on tourne un peu en rond là... A propos de tourner en rond, j'ai trouvé ta questions du genre "tu préfères quelqu'un qui sent bon mais super con ou quelqu'un qui pue mais super intelligent ?" bien rigolotte.
Grâce à ta remarque "j'ai toujours raison", j'ai changé d'avis à ton sujet; j'ai décidé que je te trouvais drôle et que j'allais prendre tout ce que tu disais au second degré. 🙂
hihihi, bien sûr que c'est ton droit... tout comme c'est le doit de Cextra de.... bon, on tourne un peu en rond là... A propos de tourner en rond, j'ai trouvé ta questions du genre "tu préfères quelqu'un qui sent bon mais super con ou quelqu'un qui pue mais super intelligent ?" bien rigolotte.
Grâce à ta remarque "j'ai toujours raison", j'ai changé d'avis à ton sujet; j'ai décidé que je te trouvais drôle et que j'allais prendre tout ce que tu disais au second degré. 🙂
"Old travellers never die, they just smell that way"
Ce que je tentais de dire allait au-delà du voyage et des voyageurs, d'ailleurs n'avait rien à voir. Combien de personnes voient leur message disséqué, interprété, fourvoyé ? Un forum n'est décidément pas un lieu d'échange de pensées/réflexions, c'est bon pour les infos sur les voyages mais pour transmettre une nuance dans la pensée ... je baisse les bras.
Elle était débout la ville !!!
Mais non, ne baisse pas les bras.
La difficulté principale vient du fait que, sur un forum, nous nous exprimons par écrit, le plus souvent rapidement, en se relisant insuffisamment.
Or, l'expression écrite est bien différente de l'orale, particulièrement en français (j'ai entendu récemment que le français était la langue dans laquelle les expressions orale et écrite étaient les plus éloignées).
Par rapport à l'oral, il manque à l'écrit toutes les subtilités données par l'intonation, les gestes, les sourires, ... En revanche, l'écrit permet d'utiliser un vocabulaire riche, précis et de travailler la construction.
Dans notre société, à l'heure du SMS, l'ecrit construit et réfléchi est de moins en moins pratiqué, ce qui est paradoxal quand on pense aux outils bureautiques qui permettent de vérifier l'orthographe et de retoucher un texte autant qu'on veut sans faire de rature.
La difficulté principale vient du fait que, sur un forum, nous nous exprimons par écrit, le plus souvent rapidement, en se relisant insuffisamment.
Or, l'expression écrite est bien différente de l'orale, particulièrement en français (j'ai entendu récemment que le français était la langue dans laquelle les expressions orale et écrite étaient les plus éloignées).
Par rapport à l'oral, il manque à l'écrit toutes les subtilités données par l'intonation, les gestes, les sourires, ... En revanche, l'écrit permet d'utiliser un vocabulaire riche, précis et de travailler la construction.
Dans notre société, à l'heure du SMS, l'ecrit construit et réfléchi est de moins en moins pratiqué, ce qui est paradoxal quand on pense aux outils bureautiques qui permettent de vérifier l'orthographe et de retoucher un texte autant qu'on veut sans faire de rature.
Mais non, ne baisse pas les bras.
La difficulté principale vient du fait que, sur un forum, nous nous exprimons par écrit, le plus souvent rapidement, en se relisant insuffisamment.
Or, l'expression écrite est bien différente de l'orale, particulièrement en français (j'ai entendu récemment que le français était la langue dans laquelle les expressions orale et écrite étaient les plus éloignées).
Par rapport à l'oral, il manque à l'écrit toutes les subtilités données par l'intonation, les gestes, les sourires, ... En revanche, l'écrit permet d'utiliser un vocabulaire riche, précis et de travailler la construction.
Dans notre société, à l'heure du SMS, l'ecrit construit et réfléchi est de moins en moins pratiqué, ce qui est paradoxal quand on pense aux outils bureautiques qui permettent de vérifier l'orthographe et de retoucher un texte autant qu'on veut sans faire de rature.
J'ajouterais que sur internet, on a facilement tendance à "oraliser" son écrit. Un forum est parfois perçu comme une extension du monde oral, ce qui explique sans doute le langage relâché. Les smileys sont d'ailleurs symptomatiques de ce langage mixte, ils sont là pour remplacer les mimiques et intonations, et sont un erzatz de ce qui fait la vraie richesse du langage oral.
Quant à l'écrit construit et réfléchi, il doit être réservé par certains aux lettres manuscrites et au monde professionnel.
La difficulté principale vient du fait que, sur un forum, nous nous exprimons par écrit, le plus souvent rapidement, en se relisant insuffisamment.
Or, l'expression écrite est bien différente de l'orale, particulièrement en français (j'ai entendu récemment que le français était la langue dans laquelle les expressions orale et écrite étaient les plus éloignées).
Par rapport à l'oral, il manque à l'écrit toutes les subtilités données par l'intonation, les gestes, les sourires, ... En revanche, l'écrit permet d'utiliser un vocabulaire riche, précis et de travailler la construction.
Dans notre société, à l'heure du SMS, l'ecrit construit et réfléchi est de moins en moins pratiqué, ce qui est paradoxal quand on pense aux outils bureautiques qui permettent de vérifier l'orthographe et de retoucher un texte autant qu'on veut sans faire de rature.
J'ajouterais que sur internet, on a facilement tendance à "oraliser" son écrit. Un forum est parfois perçu comme une extension du monde oral, ce qui explique sans doute le langage relâché. Les smileys sont d'ailleurs symptomatiques de ce langage mixte, ils sont là pour remplacer les mimiques et intonations, et sont un erzatz de ce qui fait la vraie richesse du langage oral.
Quant à l'écrit construit et réfléchi, il doit être réservé par certains aux lettres manuscrites et au monde professionnel.
voilà qui est bien dit, je suis le débat d'un oeil extérieur, mais là je me permet d'intervenir juste pour dire que j'adhère à tes propos. Je pense que la pluparts vfistes de ce débat se prennent la tête sur des mots "voyageurs", "touristes", "vacances"... alors que chacun d'entre eux ne leur accordent pas le même concept, la même définition. En gros, ils sont à peu près tous d'accord sur le fond mais pas sur la forme (ils n'emploient pas les mêmes mots)...
Voilà pour ce qui est de mon analyse très profonde (n'est-ce pas !) de ce débat.
Sinon,
Il m'arrive de partager mon lit ou ma chambre avec des insectes bizarres !
Qui c'est que tu appelles "insectes bizarres 😉 ... Ca m'intéresse ! coquine va 😛
@dios y suerte para todos
Mano
Voilà pour ce qui est de mon analyse très profonde (n'est-ce pas !) de ce débat.
Sinon,
Il m'arrive de partager mon lit ou ma chambre avec des insectes bizarres !
Qui c'est que tu appelles "insectes bizarres 😉 ... Ca m'intéresse ! coquine va 😛
@dios y suerte para todos
Mano
Mano
"Faites que vos rêves dévorent votre vie avant que votre vie ne dévore vos rêves" Saint Exupéry
"Faites que vos rêves dévorent votre vie avant que votre vie ne dévore vos rêves" Saint Exupéry
😊 Oh !!!!! Et même si .... chacun sa manière de découvrir un pays non??? 😛 (cela dit j'étais surprise que personne n'ait relevé pour l'instant...)
Et oui, il est temps d'assumer..... nous faisons tous du tourisme !!!!!
Et oui, il est temps d'assumer..... nous faisons tous du tourisme !!!!!
Ce n'est pas la premiere discussion sur ce sujet et a chaque fois je trouve ca tres rigolo. Et comme tout le monde a son petit avis sur le sujet, je suis sur que si je vous dit comment je voyage, vous me direz qui je suis. Alors je me lance.
hotels, restau : le haut de la categorie petit budget du lonely ou GdR. Parfois plus pour un hotel avec un superbe emplacement ou l'envie d'une bonne bouffe. Transports : locaux, car a moins d'avoir un vehicule ou d'en louer un, je ne vois pas comment on peut faire. Sac : Le plus petit possible. J'ai le dos fragile et je ne tiens pas a ressembler a une tortue. Et puis quand on trouve l'ensemble short tee-shirt tongs a moins de 10 euros, a quoi bon se charger. Habits (propres) : je m'habille comme chez moi. Je ne tiens pas a me travestir avec des costumes locaux qui ne sont pas faits pour moi. Etre gringo, farang ou autre c'est deja suffisant, pas la peine d'en rajouter (bien que le ridicule ne tue pas). J'utilise parfois des tours organises a la journee pour les endroits difficilement accessible en solo ou lorsqu'il n'y a pas d'autres moyens de se rendre sur un site. Photo : lorsque je n'oublie pas mon appareil a l'hotel ou que la batterie n'est pas a plat, j'en prend. Juste de la photo souvenir pour ma famille et certains de mes amis. J'aime bien faire travailler les petits metiers de rue. Genre rechargeurs de briquets non rechargeables, cireurs de chaussures (mes tongs, je ne les fais que nettoyer, ca les amuse et moi aussi), recolleurs de tongs qui battent de l'aile, vendeurs en tous genres (de petites choses que je donne ensuite), porteurs (de mon petit sac), etc .... Bon, j'ai presque tout dit. Non, j'ai oublie le budget, le nerf de la guerre et qui a la lecture de certains posts est determinant pour la categorie d'appartenance. + ou - 200 euros/semaine en fonction du pays.
Alors ? voyageur, touriste, routard, vacancier, globe-trotteur, aventurier (c'est ce que dit ma mere, qui a un certain age, de moi car pour elle, aller au Cambodge c'est aller aux colonnies c'est a dire en Indochine...) .
hotels, restau : le haut de la categorie petit budget du lonely ou GdR. Parfois plus pour un hotel avec un superbe emplacement ou l'envie d'une bonne bouffe. Transports : locaux, car a moins d'avoir un vehicule ou d'en louer un, je ne vois pas comment on peut faire. Sac : Le plus petit possible. J'ai le dos fragile et je ne tiens pas a ressembler a une tortue. Et puis quand on trouve l'ensemble short tee-shirt tongs a moins de 10 euros, a quoi bon se charger. Habits (propres) : je m'habille comme chez moi. Je ne tiens pas a me travestir avec des costumes locaux qui ne sont pas faits pour moi. Etre gringo, farang ou autre c'est deja suffisant, pas la peine d'en rajouter (bien que le ridicule ne tue pas). J'utilise parfois des tours organises a la journee pour les endroits difficilement accessible en solo ou lorsqu'il n'y a pas d'autres moyens de se rendre sur un site. Photo : lorsque je n'oublie pas mon appareil a l'hotel ou que la batterie n'est pas a plat, j'en prend. Juste de la photo souvenir pour ma famille et certains de mes amis. J'aime bien faire travailler les petits metiers de rue. Genre rechargeurs de briquets non rechargeables, cireurs de chaussures (mes tongs, je ne les fais que nettoyer, ca les amuse et moi aussi), recolleurs de tongs qui battent de l'aile, vendeurs en tous genres (de petites choses que je donne ensuite), porteurs (de mon petit sac), etc .... Bon, j'ai presque tout dit. Non, j'ai oublie le budget, le nerf de la guerre et qui a la lecture de certains posts est determinant pour la categorie d'appartenance. + ou - 200 euros/semaine en fonction du pays.
Alors ? voyageur, touriste, routard, vacancier, globe-trotteur, aventurier (c'est ce que dit ma mere, qui a un certain age, de moi car pour elle, aller au Cambodge c'est aller aux colonnies c'est a dire en Indochine...) .
Pwahrk.... Encore un %ù$!!?£ de touriste !!!!!
Félicitations ! à toi tout seul tu es "le voyageur, le touriste, le routard le vacancier, le globe-trotteur, l'aventurier", tu peux peut-être aussi ajouter le randonneur, le trekkeur, etc... en fait tous ceux qui forment la grande et belle communauté de VF !!! et avec une petite dose d'humour, c'est encore plus sympa 😉 !
Dolma
Dolma
un chemin et la caresse du vent, alors je pars en voyage...
A propos de tourner en rond, j'ai trouvé ta questions du genre "tu préfères quelqu'un qui sent bon mais super con ou quelqu'un qui pue mais super intelligent ?" bien rigolotte.
Si je disais cela, c'est que titania semblait caricaturer les gens, les enfermant dans des categories, style "sale branleur ecervelé et mal tenu" et "ah, celui-la, c'est un mec bien, il se lave les cheveux".
Grâce à ta remarque "j'ai toujours raison", j'ai changé d'avis à ton sujet; j'ai décidé que je te trouvais drôle et que j'allais prendre tout ce que tu disais au second degré. 🙂
Tout ? C'est aller un peu vite. Mais ca peut etre un bon reflexe.
Si je disais cela, c'est que titania semblait caricaturer les gens, les enfermant dans des categories, style "sale branleur ecervelé et mal tenu" et "ah, celui-la, c'est un mec bien, il se lave les cheveux".
Grâce à ta remarque "j'ai toujours raison", j'ai changé d'avis à ton sujet; j'ai décidé que je te trouvais drôle et que j'allais prendre tout ce que tu disais au second degré. 🙂
Tout ? C'est aller un peu vite. Mais ca peut etre un bon reflexe.
Si je disais cela, c'est que titania semblait caricaturer les gens, les enfermant dans des categories.
Je crois que le deuxième degré, il faudrait tenter de comprendre celui des autres aussi, et lire ce qui est écrit serait pas mal non plus, de plus, la terre entière n'a pas besoin d'un prof. Me concernant, mes profs, je les choisis.
Maintenant dis ce que tu veux, tu m'as fatiguée et ennuyée au point que je te laisse seul gagnant de cette compétition dans lequel entre nous deux tu seras aussi le seul participant. Tout ça est stérile au plus haut point pour moi.
Je crois que le deuxième degré, il faudrait tenter de comprendre celui des autres aussi, et lire ce qui est écrit serait pas mal non plus, de plus, la terre entière n'a pas besoin d'un prof. Me concernant, mes profs, je les choisis.
Maintenant dis ce que tu veux, tu m'as fatiguée et ennuyée au point que je te laisse seul gagnant de cette compétition dans lequel entre nous deux tu seras aussi le seul participant. Tout ça est stérile au plus haut point pour moi.
Elle était débout la ville !!!
Pwahrk est un mixe de POUAHHH (expression de dégoût) et de BEURK (idem)
😉
Je viens de me rappeler qu'il y a 10 ans, ma prof de latin avait noté sur mon carnet trimestriel : "Touriste sympathique"..... Comme quoi... Il y a encore des gens pour trouver un touriste.... sympathique !!!
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😉
Je viens de me rappeler qu'il y a 10 ans, ma prof de latin avait noté sur mon carnet trimestriel : "Touriste sympathique"..... Comme quoi... Il y a encore des gens pour trouver un touriste.... sympathique !!!
😎
Comme quoi... Il y a encore des gens pour trouver un touriste.... sympathique !!!
Ouaip… surtout en latin!😏
…mais chacun fait, fait fait …c'qui lui plait, plait, plait… et puis l'reste on s'en fou… Une vieille rangaine des années 80 il me semble…😉
Ouaip… surtout en latin!😏
…mais chacun fait, fait fait …c'qui lui plait, plait, plait… et puis l'reste on s'en fou… Une vieille rangaine des années 80 il me semble…😉
une âme d'aventuriere ne peut se rejouir enracinée dans son quotidien…
Je suis d'accord avec toi Alan, mais c'est juste ce manque de respect vis à vis d'une image qui m'a fait bondir...
En réponse à Cextra:
bizzare les differentes conceptions d aller voir ailleurs....
et non ce n est pas du snobisme c ets juste de vivre dans des conditions civilisees..ici on voit bien souvent des mecs pouilleux des backpackers comme ils les appellent ici
les mecs n ont meme pas assez de thunes pour se payer une douche
faut arreter y a pas de plaisir la dedans
moi je ne dors pas avec les cafards...meme si certains font ce choix (et il faut dire qu ils sont nombreux)je ne mange pas de trucs qui on traines toute la journee au chaud et exposes a la pollution
a quoi ca sert d etre en vacances ou en voyage si c est pour aller passer son temsp a l hosto ou devoir galerer en rentrant aves une colonie de morpions..je ne comprends pas...
Si c ets pour devoir galerer je prefere rester chez moi...
Chacun fait fait fait ce qu'il lui plait plait plait toutoubidou, sans déranger les autres!😎
En réponse à Cextra:
bizzare les differentes conceptions d aller voir ailleurs....
et non ce n est pas du snobisme c ets juste de vivre dans des conditions civilisees..ici on voit bien souvent des mecs pouilleux des backpackers comme ils les appellent ici
les mecs n ont meme pas assez de thunes pour se payer une douche
faut arreter y a pas de plaisir la dedans
moi je ne dors pas avec les cafards...meme si certains font ce choix (et il faut dire qu ils sont nombreux)je ne mange pas de trucs qui on traines toute la journee au chaud et exposes a la pollution
a quoi ca sert d etre en vacances ou en voyage si c est pour aller passer son temsp a l hosto ou devoir galerer en rentrant aves une colonie de morpions..je ne comprends pas...
Si c ets pour devoir galerer je prefere rester chez moi...
Chacun fait fait fait ce qu'il lui plait plait plait toutoubidou, sans déranger les autres!😎
Fainéanter dans un monde neuf est la plus absorbante des occupations... (N.Bouvier)
Bien d'accord!! On parlait pas de rapport authentique, vrai et profond avec les habitant-e-s du pays que l'on traverse?😛
Un ami m'a dit: Le monde serait meilleur si chacun-e regardait dans l'assiette de l'autre et y rajoutait ce qu'il y manque
Bonjour !
Pour moi voyager c'est essayer de découvrir un pays par sa culture, ses habitants en étant autonome.
Partir en vacances, c'est aller en club, passer son temps sur la plage et ne pas sortir de l'hôtel hormis en excursions car climatisé "sur mesure", donc pour résumer, partir en vacances ne m'intéresse pas, voyager oui !
Pour ceux qui disent qu'il faut partir en vacances pour voyager, je dirai plutôt qu'il faut avoir des vacances pour voyager (du moins dans la plupart des cas !) - la question est plutôt de savoir "comment tu emploies ton temps pendant cette période de vacances", employer cette période "à voyager autrement" plutôt qu'avec des formules toutes "ficelées".
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Pour moi voyager c'est essayer de découvrir un pays par sa culture, ses habitants en étant autonome.
Partir en vacances, c'est aller en club, passer son temps sur la plage et ne pas sortir de l'hôtel hormis en excursions car climatisé "sur mesure", donc pour résumer, partir en vacances ne m'intéresse pas, voyager oui !
Pour ceux qui disent qu'il faut partir en vacances pour voyager, je dirai plutôt qu'il faut avoir des vacances pour voyager (du moins dans la plupart des cas !) - la question est plutôt de savoir "comment tu emploies ton temps pendant cette période de vacances", employer cette période "à voyager autrement" plutôt qu'avec des formules toutes "ficelées".
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Pour moi les vacances c'est différent des voyages. Je voyage pour mon plaisir et étant employée je les déduits de mes congés annuel, d'ailleurs la plutart du temps mes vacances durent moins longtemps que mes voyages. Mes vacances riment avec sieste à volonté, rester tranquille dans un endroit plaisant, grignoter des p'tits trucs en bouqinant, bref pas faire grand chose à part se reposer. Et mes voyages riment avec, dépaysement, rencontre, découverte, nuit blanche parfois, mal de dos à cause des transports en tous genre, et en général à la fin de mes voyages je me pose dans un endroit sympa pour qq jours de vacances !...
Non pas forcément, je peux être en vacances sans partir car il n'y a pas que voyager qui permets d'apporter ou de donner ce qu'apportent ou ce dont nous dépouillent les voyages, on peut également recevoir des amis qui voyages, préparer un voyage et toutes autres activités liées de prêt ou de loin au voyage, puisque nous ne sommes pas des végétaux avec racines au sol ou sous-sol.
On peut même voyager immobile et ce n'est pas des vacances cela demande beaucoup d'attention de concentration, biensûr avec une bonne dose de détente nécessaire.
Les vacances c'est la détente couper le rythme quotidien et urbain occidental même (que l'on parte ou non), le voyage c'est la découverte dans un espace et un temps différent, qui s'écoule différemment. Plus ça va et moins je vois de différence au fond.
Il y a le voyage plaisir (vacances, découverte, rencontres, activité personnelle ou familliale), et le voyage objectif (pour aller quelque part faire quelque chose de précis, que ce soit personnel, famillial ou professionnel).
En fait mes "vrais voyages" sont ceux que je n'ai pas préparés, des impomptus. Les voyages préparés, moins aventureux, plus remplis d'attendus qui souvent au moment du départ ne me disent plus rien car leur rêve les a tués, mais bon si on a payé le billet on y va et on est contant car on a en prime un voyage différent (forcément).
Finalement tous les voyages sont intérieurs, secrets, surprenants, comme le mouvement de l'instant. Le quotidien est aussi un voyage en ce sens.
Où est la necessité de partir au fond ? Dans les circonstances.
On peut même voyager immobile et ce n'est pas des vacances cela demande beaucoup d'attention de concentration, biensûr avec une bonne dose de détente nécessaire.
Les vacances c'est la détente couper le rythme quotidien et urbain occidental même (que l'on parte ou non), le voyage c'est la découverte dans un espace et un temps différent, qui s'écoule différemment. Plus ça va et moins je vois de différence au fond.
Il y a le voyage plaisir (vacances, découverte, rencontres, activité personnelle ou familliale), et le voyage objectif (pour aller quelque part faire quelque chose de précis, que ce soit personnel, famillial ou professionnel).
En fait mes "vrais voyages" sont ceux que je n'ai pas préparés, des impomptus. Les voyages préparés, moins aventureux, plus remplis d'attendus qui souvent au moment du départ ne me disent plus rien car leur rêve les a tués, mais bon si on a payé le billet on y va et on est contant car on a en prime un voyage différent (forcément).
Finalement tous les voyages sont intérieurs, secrets, surprenants, comme le mouvement de l'instant. Le quotidien est aussi un voyage en ce sens.
Où est la necessité de partir au fond ? Dans les circonstances.
Le plus grand voyageur est celui qui a su faire une fois le tour de lui-même (Confucius) voilà ça continue, sous ma tente aux cinq couleurs...
Alors là, chapeau.
Rien qu'à te lire, je me suis senti partir.
Je vois une difference entre voyager et partir en vacances.
Par exemple, la nous sommes en voyage et dans ce voyage nous nous octroyons des vacances.
Le voyage a, a mon sens, une dimension itinerante que n'ont pas specialement les vacances. Cette dimension itinerante permet aussi de se faire son "road movie", faire une recherche d'autre chose. C'est ce que nous faisons en ce moment.
Tu vas me repondre que tu peux le faire aussi en vacances. Mais tu peux voyager sans etre en vacances (raisons professionnelles), tu peux voyager pour faire une rupture avec ton quotidien, vivre differemment pendant un long laps de temps. Le voyage a une dimension temporelle (a mes yeux) que n'ont pas les vacances. Tu peux partir en vacances en Thailande pour 15 jours, c'est pas la meme chose que si tu pars en voyage de 3 mois en Thailande... Tu ne vis pas les memes choses.
Le voyage a une dimension de "vecu" que n'ont pas les vacances. Durant notre "voyage" au Sud-Est asiatique (qui se termine... snif), on a rencontre des gens en vacances, et je t'assure que c'est pas du tout la meme optique de voyage... Meme si tous les deux voyagent au sens propre, meme si tous les deux ont besoin d'etre en "conge", les motivations de la personne en vacances et celle qui est en voyage sont diametralement opposees meme si parfois elles se rejoingent.
Vacances ou voyage, on peut retourner la chose dans tous les sens, mais les vacances au sens propre, se rapprochent du loisir, bien etre, fun, etc. Alors que lorsqu'on voyage certains de ces aspects passent a la trappe. Tu vas me repondre qu'en vacances tu peux aussis passer a la trappe ces aspects... Oui certainement. Mais alors, la personne est-elle vraiment en vacances?
Pour moi, il y a un cote initiatique dans le voyage dont les vacances en sont totalement denue. C'est pour moi la grande difference. L'apprentissage de pays, de cultures, de l'autre et de soi meme en voyage. Pas en vacances.
Le but des vacances et du voyage sont different, voila la reelle difference: le but. Certaines vacances peuvent devenir un voyage et le contraire est vrai aussi...
Nous sommes partis en voyage, pas en vacances... et dans ce voyage, on a pris des vacances.
Puisqu'en plus, pour partir si longtemps, on a pas pris des vacances... ca n'existe pas autant de temps... tout est dit.
Quelques equations pour finir:
Conge=vacances? Vable
Conge=vacances=voyage? Non valable puisque l'on peut supprimer vacances ou voyage. Mais valable aussi parce que l'on peut voyager en vacances.
Conge=voyage? Valable mais incomplet pour les memes raisons que ci-dessus.
Conclusion: la seule certitude c'est que lorsque l'on prend un conge, on est en vacances!
Mais que lors d'un voyage on est pas specialement en vacances ou en conge et que lors de vacances on peut ne pas voyager... C'est qu'il y a donc une difference!
Par exemple, les personnes qui sont parties se faire cramer a Samui en 7 jours sont en vacances parce qu'elles itinerent pas dans leur vacances en dehors de leur trajet d'avion. Tu vas me dire que prendre l'avion, c'est voyager, je te repondrais : NON, c'est trop limitatif! Parce que si c'est le cas prendre le metro dans certains cas, c'est aussis voyager! J'irais meme plus loin, on peut voyager a pied, en metro, en train, en tramay ou dans sa chambre (a lire:Xavier de Maistre Voyage autour de ma chambre)".
Tout est une question de se mettre d'accord sur les definitions.
Par exemple, la nous sommes en voyage et dans ce voyage nous nous octroyons des vacances.
Le voyage a, a mon sens, une dimension itinerante que n'ont pas specialement les vacances. Cette dimension itinerante permet aussi de se faire son "road movie", faire une recherche d'autre chose. C'est ce que nous faisons en ce moment.
Tu vas me repondre que tu peux le faire aussi en vacances. Mais tu peux voyager sans etre en vacances (raisons professionnelles), tu peux voyager pour faire une rupture avec ton quotidien, vivre differemment pendant un long laps de temps. Le voyage a une dimension temporelle (a mes yeux) que n'ont pas les vacances. Tu peux partir en vacances en Thailande pour 15 jours, c'est pas la meme chose que si tu pars en voyage de 3 mois en Thailande... Tu ne vis pas les memes choses.
Le voyage a une dimension de "vecu" que n'ont pas les vacances. Durant notre "voyage" au Sud-Est asiatique (qui se termine... snif), on a rencontre des gens en vacances, et je t'assure que c'est pas du tout la meme optique de voyage... Meme si tous les deux voyagent au sens propre, meme si tous les deux ont besoin d'etre en "conge", les motivations de la personne en vacances et celle qui est en voyage sont diametralement opposees meme si parfois elles se rejoingent.
Vacances ou voyage, on peut retourner la chose dans tous les sens, mais les vacances au sens propre, se rapprochent du loisir, bien etre, fun, etc. Alors que lorsqu'on voyage certains de ces aspects passent a la trappe. Tu vas me repondre qu'en vacances tu peux aussis passer a la trappe ces aspects... Oui certainement. Mais alors, la personne est-elle vraiment en vacances?
Pour moi, il y a un cote initiatique dans le voyage dont les vacances en sont totalement denue. C'est pour moi la grande difference. L'apprentissage de pays, de cultures, de l'autre et de soi meme en voyage. Pas en vacances.
Le but des vacances et du voyage sont different, voila la reelle difference: le but. Certaines vacances peuvent devenir un voyage et le contraire est vrai aussi...
Nous sommes partis en voyage, pas en vacances... et dans ce voyage, on a pris des vacances.
Puisqu'en plus, pour partir si longtemps, on a pas pris des vacances... ca n'existe pas autant de temps... tout est dit.
Quelques equations pour finir:
Conge=vacances? Vable
Conge=vacances=voyage? Non valable puisque l'on peut supprimer vacances ou voyage. Mais valable aussi parce que l'on peut voyager en vacances.
Conge=voyage? Valable mais incomplet pour les memes raisons que ci-dessus.
Conclusion: la seule certitude c'est que lorsque l'on prend un conge, on est en vacances!
Mais que lors d'un voyage on est pas specialement en vacances ou en conge et que lors de vacances on peut ne pas voyager... C'est qu'il y a donc une difference!
Par exemple, les personnes qui sont parties se faire cramer a Samui en 7 jours sont en vacances parce qu'elles itinerent pas dans leur vacances en dehors de leur trajet d'avion. Tu vas me dire que prendre l'avion, c'est voyager, je te repondrais : NON, c'est trop limitatif! Parce que si c'est le cas prendre le metro dans certains cas, c'est aussis voyager! J'irais meme plus loin, on peut voyager a pied, en metro, en train, en tramay ou dans sa chambre (a lire:Xavier de Maistre Voyage autour de ma chambre)".
Tout est une question de se mettre d'accord sur les definitions.
OK, rien à ajouter, d'autant que tu fais les questions et les réponses 😉
Oui, mais bon si j'ai envie d'alimenter le Troll?
Un precision du moins, quand on est en conge, on est pas specialement en vacances, puisqu'il y a le conge maladie, grossesse, etc. Et pendant ces conges, on peut aussi partir en voyage!😛... ou prendre des vacances? Non! Puisque les vacances sont comprises dans les conges annuels et pas ces conges!?🤪
M'en sort plus moi.
Pour faire simple, la notion de voyage, selon le dico, implique le deplacemnent. Donc partir en voyage=partir pour se deplacer. Si l'on part pour rester a se dorer la pillule, prendre du bon temps, ce sont alors des vacances. Car les vacances n'ont pas la notion de deplacement comme fin en soi, mais plutot une notion recreative, de loisir, d'utilisation des conges annuels. Donc on peut partir 15 jours en voyage si on est itinerant...Comme on peut partir 15 jours en vacances.
Maintenant toutes les considerations de budget comme j'ai pu lire dans ce topic, ou de traine savate ou encore de traine ressorts et hotels de luxe, c'est qu'une question de point de vue, c'est absolument subjectif! C'est un debat sterile puisque les dicos sont la pour nous eclairer. Chacun a sa maniere de voir les choses. Que ca plaise ou non, un "traine savate" qui loge dans des mitards est autant un voyageur qu'un pensionne qui se fait un trip itinerant aux memes endroits dans des guesthouse avec airco et est autant un voyageur qu'un gars plein de pognon dans les hotels de luxe, etc.
On peut tres bien faire exactement le meme itineraire que quelqu'un d'autre exactement au meme moment et vivre des choses totalement differentes, apprecier ou non les lieux, ambiances et gens. Puisque nous trimballons chacun en plus de notre sac a dos (valise, etc.) tout notre vecu, notre inne, notre acquis et notre culture. L'appreciation de ce que l'on a devant les yeux depend principalement de ce vecu, de cette culture, de la curiosite, de la paresse, etc. Bref, de ce que l'on est, simplement.
Le voyage est ce que nous voulons qu'il soit qui que l'on soit. Le reste, c'est de l'intolerence.
Un precision du moins, quand on est en conge, on est pas specialement en vacances, puisqu'il y a le conge maladie, grossesse, etc. Et pendant ces conges, on peut aussi partir en voyage!😛... ou prendre des vacances? Non! Puisque les vacances sont comprises dans les conges annuels et pas ces conges!?🤪
M'en sort plus moi.
Pour faire simple, la notion de voyage, selon le dico, implique le deplacemnent. Donc partir en voyage=partir pour se deplacer. Si l'on part pour rester a se dorer la pillule, prendre du bon temps, ce sont alors des vacances. Car les vacances n'ont pas la notion de deplacement comme fin en soi, mais plutot une notion recreative, de loisir, d'utilisation des conges annuels. Donc on peut partir 15 jours en voyage si on est itinerant...Comme on peut partir 15 jours en vacances.
Maintenant toutes les considerations de budget comme j'ai pu lire dans ce topic, ou de traine savate ou encore de traine ressorts et hotels de luxe, c'est qu'une question de point de vue, c'est absolument subjectif! C'est un debat sterile puisque les dicos sont la pour nous eclairer. Chacun a sa maniere de voir les choses. Que ca plaise ou non, un "traine savate" qui loge dans des mitards est autant un voyageur qu'un pensionne qui se fait un trip itinerant aux memes endroits dans des guesthouse avec airco et est autant un voyageur qu'un gars plein de pognon dans les hotels de luxe, etc.
On peut tres bien faire exactement le meme itineraire que quelqu'un d'autre exactement au meme moment et vivre des choses totalement differentes, apprecier ou non les lieux, ambiances et gens. Puisque nous trimballons chacun en plus de notre sac a dos (valise, etc.) tout notre vecu, notre inne, notre acquis et notre culture. L'appreciation de ce que l'on a devant les yeux depend principalement de ce vecu, de cette culture, de la curiosite, de la paresse, etc. Bref, de ce que l'on est, simplement.
Le voyage est ce que nous voulons qu'il soit qui que l'on soit. Le reste, c'est de l'intolerence.
salut
Très bonne question! J'ai essayé d'expliquer la différence à... mon directeur, qui n'est pas, a priori, la personne la mieux placée pour comprendre mes états d'ame ! Mais pourtant c'est vrai: je n'ai pas besoin de vacances au sens strict mais besoin de voyages, nuance ! Certes, il faut bien des vacances pour voyager 😕 Pour moi, voyager c'est vital, c'est une drogue mais aussi un médicament. Je voyage pour m'aérer l'esprit,
pour me sentir soulagé que y'a pas dans ce bas monde une seule et unique façon de vivre,
pour croiser des sourires que je ne vois pas en France au quotidien,
pour avoir chaud aussi (!),
pour rien faire...
pour manger des mets inconnus,
pour photographier des endroits magiques,
pour m'isoler dans des endroits déserts,
pour rêver sous les étoiles,
pour penser à mes amis qui sont à l'autre bout de la terre,
pour me libérer des contraintes de notre société qui évolue vers une semi-dictature
pour prendre du recul par rapport au quotidien
pour avoir toujours un projet en tête et ainsi ne jamais déprimer,
pour rencontrer des gens hors du commun
pour posséder un patrimoine de souvenirs (dans un monde où on ne jure que par le patrimoine immobilier!)
Bref Voyager pour moi c'est un besoin, un art de vivre, une façon de penser, c'est bien autre chose que prendre de simples jours de vacances !
J'ai besoin de vacances pour voyager, j'ai besoin de voyager pour exister.
Très bonne question! J'ai essayé d'expliquer la différence à... mon directeur, qui n'est pas, a priori, la personne la mieux placée pour comprendre mes états d'ame ! Mais pourtant c'est vrai: je n'ai pas besoin de vacances au sens strict mais besoin de voyages, nuance ! Certes, il faut bien des vacances pour voyager 😕 Pour moi, voyager c'est vital, c'est une drogue mais aussi un médicament. Je voyage pour m'aérer l'esprit,
pour me sentir soulagé que y'a pas dans ce bas monde une seule et unique façon de vivre,
pour croiser des sourires que je ne vois pas en France au quotidien,
pour avoir chaud aussi (!),
pour rien faire...
pour manger des mets inconnus,
pour photographier des endroits magiques,
pour m'isoler dans des endroits déserts,
pour rêver sous les étoiles,
pour penser à mes amis qui sont à l'autre bout de la terre,
pour me libérer des contraintes de notre société qui évolue vers une semi-dictature
pour prendre du recul par rapport au quotidien
pour avoir toujours un projet en tête et ainsi ne jamais déprimer,
pour rencontrer des gens hors du commun
pour posséder un patrimoine de souvenirs (dans un monde où on ne jure que par le patrimoine immobilier!)
Bref Voyager pour moi c'est un besoin, un art de vivre, une façon de penser, c'est bien autre chose que prendre de simples jours de vacances !
J'ai besoin de vacances pour voyager, j'ai besoin de voyager pour exister.
Bravo! tu exprimes ce que je ressens aussi.
Moi, pour faire court, quand je suis à l'étranger, je me sens plus libre.
Explications?
Je crains que cela me prendrait trop de temps, mais j'adhère totalement à ton message Citoyen du monde!
Ce que je sais, c'est que quand je voyage je ne suis pas la même, et que quand je rentre je ne le suis plus non plus.
J'aime bien, je le vis.
😇😇😇
Yangcheng.
Moi, pour faire court, quand je suis à l'étranger, je me sens plus libre.
Explications?
Je crains que cela me prendrait trop de temps, mais j'adhère totalement à ton message Citoyen du monde!
Ce que je sais, c'est que quand je voyage je ne suis pas la même, et que quand je rentre je ne le suis plus non plus.
J'aime bien, je le vis.
😇😇😇
Yangcheng.
"Mon dieu que j'aime ce port du bout du monde, que le soleil inonde de ses reflets dorés" (Dalida)
Oui, j'ai toujours du mal à expliquer le pourquoi de cette sensation de liberté puisque soi disant on vit dans une des plus belles démocraties du monde (arf arf arf excuses moi j'ai avalé de travers)
Mais moi aussi quand je suis à l'étranger je décompresse de tous ces carcans, et de toutes ces idées reçues et de toutes ces interdictions injustifiées que je subis au quotidien, de tous ces problèmes qui n'en sont pas, de tous ces droits dont on me prive toujours plus chaque année. C'est un peu une fuite, la politique de l'autruche, je sais 😊 Ce qui ne veut pas dire que je rejette entièrement mon pays et qu'on est forcément + heureux ailleurs, mais en tout cas je m'implique de moins en moins pour et dans mon pays: quand je suis à l'étranger, je ne suis même pas l'actualité en Europe, je m'en fous royalement (heu.. même quand je voyage pas d'ailleurs, c'est toujours l'actu internationale qui m'interpelle), en voyage la seule actu que je suis c'est celle du pays où je suis au cas où il y ait une catastrophe (afin de prévenir ma "pauvre mère" que je suis pas mort! 😏)
Bref, tu comprends pourquoi je m'appelle citoyendumonde....
Merci de me comprendre, ça fait du bien de se sentir compris de temps en temps 🙂
Mais moi aussi quand je suis à l'étranger je décompresse de tous ces carcans, et de toutes ces idées reçues et de toutes ces interdictions injustifiées que je subis au quotidien, de tous ces problèmes qui n'en sont pas, de tous ces droits dont on me prive toujours plus chaque année. C'est un peu une fuite, la politique de l'autruche, je sais 😊 Ce qui ne veut pas dire que je rejette entièrement mon pays et qu'on est forcément + heureux ailleurs, mais en tout cas je m'implique de moins en moins pour et dans mon pays: quand je suis à l'étranger, je ne suis même pas l'actualité en Europe, je m'en fous royalement (heu.. même quand je voyage pas d'ailleurs, c'est toujours l'actu internationale qui m'interpelle), en voyage la seule actu que je suis c'est celle du pays où je suis au cas où il y ait une catastrophe (afin de prévenir ma "pauvre mère" que je suis pas mort! 😏)
Bref, tu comprends pourquoi je m'appelle citoyendumonde....
Merci de me comprendre, ça fait du bien de se sentir compris de temps en temps 🙂
C'est évident, chacun vit les choses à sa manière...!
Ce fut aussi un plaisir pour moi de découvrir ton poste qui m'est allé droit au coeur.
Pour revenir à la discu, cela fait plus d'un an que je n'ai pas eu de vacances 😕, mais la prochaine fois que j'en ai, je pars en voyage! 🙂
Caramba!!!😉😎
Yangcheng.
Ce fut aussi un plaisir pour moi de découvrir ton poste qui m'est allé droit au coeur.
Pour revenir à la discu, cela fait plus d'un an que je n'ai pas eu de vacances 😕, mais la prochaine fois que j'en ai, je pars en voyage! 🙂
Caramba!!!😉😎
Yangcheng.
"Mon dieu que j'aime ce port du bout du monde, que le soleil inonde de ses reflets dorés" (Dalida)
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Hi everyone,
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Good evening everyone,
This is my 15,000th post, and it's a message I would have preferred never to write.
Patrick—Yangguizi—won’t be returning from his trek in Uganda. His health betrayed him in the mountains.
Like many of you, I laughed until I couldn’t anymore at his travel stories. I met him in Shanghai, then in Istanbul... We scoured restaurants—he was an incredible expert on world cuisines. We relived Korea, China. Always brilliant, so sharp, so funny, so down-to-earth. Being even a little bit his friend was something to be proud of. I think I envied him.
Patrick is still out there, of course... He found his happiness running across the world. He’s on his path. He never doubted that "the traveler doesn’t even know if he’ll return one day."
Not sure this would’ve suited him, but his departure devastates me.
Alright, Farewell, you foreign devil. Safe travels.
Michel
This is my 15,000th post, and it's a message I would have preferred never to write.
Patrick—Yangguizi—won’t be returning from his trek in Uganda. His health betrayed him in the mountains.
Like many of you, I laughed until I couldn’t anymore at his travel stories. I met him in Shanghai, then in Istanbul... We scoured restaurants—he was an incredible expert on world cuisines. We relived Korea, China. Always brilliant, so sharp, so funny, so down-to-earth. Being even a little bit his friend was something to be proud of. I think I envied him.
Patrick is still out there, of course... He found his happiness running across the world. He’s on his path. He never doubted that "the traveler doesn’t even know if he’ll return one day."
Not sure this would’ve suited him, but his departure devastates me.
Alright, Farewell, you foreign devil. Safe travels.
Michel
hello to all travelers with their eyes wide open to the desert...
I’ve always wondered what I was "doing" on this earth. And why my father, who died a few months after I was born—a former youngest French resistance fighter—joined the First Saharan Motorized Company in Atar and spent the rest of his life repairing army engines in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali (which didn’t exist under that name back then), Morocco, and finally Algeria, where my mother was born and raised. (Believe me, it’s not "cool" being the child of a soldier in a country occupied by France, and even less so the child of a "pied-noir.") Of course, I never got an answer: the dead don’t talk, and the army doesn’t either. But here’s the thing—I had photos... So naturally, one day I hit the road. I wanted to see, to understand. It’s thanks to VF that I was able to do a little research on crossing the Morocco-Mauritania border, and I’m grateful to its members, just as I’m grateful to all those who welcomed me on the road for 14 years. For the past few weeks, I’ve been wondering if I should talk about this or not... It turns out the Mauritanians changed my life by asking for my help... And that started as early as February 2012... (Did I owe them something? No answer to that question.) Ah, the irony—they saw me coming. But when you’re handed sick children and begged to do something, what would you have done? I’d worked in a hospital, so I knew a bit about the rules to follow. I didn’t hesitate. And well, over all these years, I met doctors, surgeons, and together we organized care, evacuations of children, training for surgeons—even trying to stop children from having to travel outside their country. It was never easy. I’d like to thank those who supported us, as well as *La Chaîne de l’Espoir*, *La Fondation Face au Monde*, and everyone who built bridges between our two countries. Unfortunately, despite the constant efforts of Mauritanian doctors and surgeons, some children couldn’t be helped in time. Today, I want to talk about four siblings—orphans of their mother—suffering from congenital glaucoma causing irreversible blindness. Their case was entrusted to me in 2020, just weeks before the big lockdown. We couldn’t do anything for them then, but when their father asked me for a gift, I rushed to my computer and wrote a story. Through a tale, the children take a great journey, explore their country, and fulfill a dream. I never thought this book would be published—it was, in 2023. This book pays tribute to Mauritania. It’s a message for those who know nothing about the hardships of life there, carrying both the harshness and beauty of an immense desert where you can travel by 4x4, bike, on foot, or by camel in complete safety. It bears witness to the kindness of Mauritanians toward travelers. As a woman traveling alone in my vehicle—a now-rusted old Mercedes that no longer runs—I had the most beautiful encounters of my life there (I’ve seen other parts of the world...). The blind children of Choum, Atar, Nouadhibou, and Nouakchott will forever be in my heart. Volunteer readers transcribed the book into a free audio version for the visually impaired. It’s available in sound libraries in France, the *Fondation Valentin Haüy*, and the Swiss Romande library. I made my last trip to Mauritania in my old 4x4 to distribute the book everywhere, especially to its heroes and the school for the visually impaired in Nouakchott. After that, I thought it was time to close the chapter because I no longer have the means or the strength to travel. My publishers chose this title for it: *The Blue Eyes of the Desert*. This publication helped a mission of Swiss volunteer ophthalmologists come to operate on glaucomas in Mauritania. I’m thrilled because they come back every year! This adventure is ending, yes—everything must come to an end—but ultimately, it was born here, on the VF site!! So yes, I had to say it: THANK YOU!!!!!
I’ve always wondered what I was "doing" on this earth. And why my father, who died a few months after I was born—a former youngest French resistance fighter—joined the First Saharan Motorized Company in Atar and spent the rest of his life repairing army engines in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali (which didn’t exist under that name back then), Morocco, and finally Algeria, where my mother was born and raised. (Believe me, it’s not "cool" being the child of a soldier in a country occupied by France, and even less so the child of a "pied-noir.") Of course, I never got an answer: the dead don’t talk, and the army doesn’t either. But here’s the thing—I had photos... So naturally, one day I hit the road. I wanted to see, to understand. It’s thanks to VF that I was able to do a little research on crossing the Morocco-Mauritania border, and I’m grateful to its members, just as I’m grateful to all those who welcomed me on the road for 14 years. For the past few weeks, I’ve been wondering if I should talk about this or not... It turns out the Mauritanians changed my life by asking for my help... And that started as early as February 2012... (Did I owe them something? No answer to that question.) Ah, the irony—they saw me coming. But when you’re handed sick children and begged to do something, what would you have done? I’d worked in a hospital, so I knew a bit about the rules to follow. I didn’t hesitate. And well, over all these years, I met doctors, surgeons, and together we organized care, evacuations of children, training for surgeons—even trying to stop children from having to travel outside their country. It was never easy. I’d like to thank those who supported us, as well as *La Chaîne de l’Espoir*, *La Fondation Face au Monde*, and everyone who built bridges between our two countries. Unfortunately, despite the constant efforts of Mauritanian doctors and surgeons, some children couldn’t be helped in time. Today, I want to talk about four siblings—orphans of their mother—suffering from congenital glaucoma causing irreversible blindness. Their case was entrusted to me in 2020, just weeks before the big lockdown. We couldn’t do anything for them then, but when their father asked me for a gift, I rushed to my computer and wrote a story. Through a tale, the children take a great journey, explore their country, and fulfill a dream. I never thought this book would be published—it was, in 2023. This book pays tribute to Mauritania. It’s a message for those who know nothing about the hardships of life there, carrying both the harshness and beauty of an immense desert where you can travel by 4x4, bike, on foot, or by camel in complete safety. It bears witness to the kindness of Mauritanians toward travelers. As a woman traveling alone in my vehicle—a now-rusted old Mercedes that no longer runs—I had the most beautiful encounters of my life there (I’ve seen other parts of the world...). The blind children of Choum, Atar, Nouadhibou, and Nouakchott will forever be in my heart. Volunteer readers transcribed the book into a free audio version for the visually impaired. It’s available in sound libraries in France, the *Fondation Valentin Haüy*, and the Swiss Romande library. I made my last trip to Mauritania in my old 4x4 to distribute the book everywhere, especially to its heroes and the school for the visually impaired in Nouakchott. After that, I thought it was time to close the chapter because I no longer have the means or the strength to travel. My publishers chose this title for it: *The Blue Eyes of the Desert*. This publication helped a mission of Swiss volunteer ophthalmologists come to operate on glaucomas in Mauritania. I’m thrilled because they come back every year! This adventure is ending, yes—everything must come to an end—but ultimately, it was born here, on the VF site!! So yes, I had to say it: THANK YOU!!!!!
Hi everyone,
I’m Loulou, a French expat who’s been living in Southeast Asia for about fifteen years, currently in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. A passionate walker at heart, I’ve trekked in Nepal (Thorung La, Mardi Himal), India, Vietnam, and I’m still planning new hikes (Char Dham, Langtang, Annapurna).
I’ve just published my first travel journal, recounting three months of walking and encounters across India. A portion of the sales goes to an educational center I support in Kep, for children whose parents work in the salt marshes.
I’m also working on a second book about Nepal with a musician friend, focusing on the Mardi Himal trek—two independent perspectives on the same journey.
Happy to swap stories with you about the Himalayas, India, Southeast Asia, or just the urge to hit the road and walk far from home.
Safe travels,
Loulou
Hi! It was totally by chance that I stumbled upon VoyageForum (an ad online and a story lol), and I’ve been reading some really old posts from 2011 about Thai massage schools—discussions on how to get by, accommodation, prices, etc. It reminded me of my own experience: I kept things simple by staying with a local family during my entire trip. I only shared all the expenses with them, which, I’ll admit, was super cheap… and I often traveled with them, which naturally opened a lot of doors for me. To start, at the school in Salaya, my Thai friend immediately connected me with Teacher Phong (the school’s mentor and teacher of teachers, a former monk). I was supposed to join a group session with other foreigners, but for some reason I don’t know, I got two days of private lessons for free with this expert… incredible! And on top of that, he loved France! It was an amazing experience. I "discovered" massage by chance—the Thai family just told me: "Try it, you’ll see!" (I’d had a pretty intense massage in the capital before 😅… but the next day, I felt unbelievably great!))
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
"It seems to me that poverty would be less painful in the sun" wrote Aznavour...
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Hi everyone, just this once I’m not posting for a travel story, but to share a thought for Venezuela.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
hi there
I’d like to invite you to discover my coastal province in central Vietnam: Quang Ngai.
This year, my province has really improved its infrastructure—mountains, countryside, and sea are all authentic here.
No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
A local lunch costs around 1 €.
A *** hotel room is about 25 €, and you can find hotels right on My Khe Beach.
We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
I live here—I’m not selling anything, but I can help if needed (my father-in-law is a traditional Vietnamese doctor and he’s very skilled).
We're planning to spend a month in Vietnam. Is hiring a guide helpful?
Hi everyone! 😉
I’m Typhaine, 35 years old. Five years ago, I left France for a solo round-the-world trip—no planes, just a van, hitchhiking, cycling, and even a canoe in the Amazon! Today, I work as a naturalist guide in Argentine Patagonia.
Wherever I go, my compass stays the same: observing and photographing wildlife, which I deeply admire and respect.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
Hello everyone,
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

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It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

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I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Hello everyone,
I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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.Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
Hello 🙂
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hi there,
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,

Hello to all East Africa lovers and nature enthusiasts in general,
While I prepare to share a recap of our latest trip/safari in Kenya soon, I’d like to wish you all a peaceful transition between 2025 and 2026.
Warm regards,
Puma2A.





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We’re a couple aged 58 and 63. We’ve just returned from a wonderful trip to South India in Tamil Nadu and a few days in Kerala. We traveled with a local French-speaking guide and his friend, the driver. They both live in Pondicherry. We spent 3 weeks with them in the most authentic way!
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean