J'ai 21ans je travail, je paye la sécu, les retraites etc... comme tt le monde J'ai entamé 2diplome bac+2 que je n'ai jamais pu finir (cela ne me convenait pas) j'ai travailler dans : l'immobilier, le social et maintenant dans la restauration. Et à chaque fois c'est la même chose, j'en peux plus, la routine m'enerve au bout de seulement 2mois et l'envie de tout plaquer, tout vendre, et de dire ciao bambino me prend comme un junkie camé a la cocaine! Je n'arrive pas à faire le pas... Pourtant je ne suis pas famille (trop de pb mais bon) ni trop ami... Je n'arrive à me fixer sur rien : si je fais le mm chose pendant 1mois c'est la déprime!!! Aujourd'hui je suis avec une femme (cela fait 3ans), et franchement c'est la seul chose qui me retienne je crois. doit'on vivre de maniere égoiste? penser à soi et rendre l'autre malheureux et soi meme peut etre? doi'je tout laisser et m'en aller vivre comme mon coeur me le demande. rien qu'en ecrivant ce message j'ai l'adrenaline du voyage (comme un matin de noel) qui s'empare de moi... Que faire? Ps: les forum psycho : très peu pour moi...merci
Partir, une obsession et une peur
by Supertramp06
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
J'ai 21ans je travail, je paye la sécu, les retraites etc... comme tt le monde J'ai entamé 2diplome bac+2 que je n'ai jamais pu finir (cela ne me convenait pas) j'ai travailler dans : l'immobilier, le social et maintenant dans la restauration. Et à chaque fois c'est la même chose, j'en peux plus, la routine m'enerve au bout de seulement 2mois et l'envie de tout plaquer, tout vendre, et de dire ciao bambino me prend comme un junkie camé a la cocaine! Je n'arrive pas à faire le pas... Pourtant je ne suis pas famille (trop de pb mais bon) ni trop ami... Je n'arrive à me fixer sur rien : si je fais le mm chose pendant 1mois c'est la déprime!!! Aujourd'hui je suis avec une femme (cela fait 3ans), et franchement c'est la seul chose qui me retienne je crois. doit'on vivre de maniere égoiste? penser à soi et rendre l'autre malheureux et soi meme peut etre? doi'je tout laisser et m'en aller vivre comme mon coeur me le demande. rien qu'en ecrivant ce message j'ai l'adrenaline du voyage (comme un matin de noel) qui s'empare de moi... Que faire? Ps: les forum psycho : très peu pour moi...merci
J'ai 21ans je travail, je paye la sécu, les retraites etc... comme tt le monde J'ai entamé 2diplome bac+2 que je n'ai jamais pu finir (cela ne me convenait pas) j'ai travailler dans : l'immobilier, le social et maintenant dans la restauration. Et à chaque fois c'est la même chose, j'en peux plus, la routine m'enerve au bout de seulement 2mois et l'envie de tout plaquer, tout vendre, et de dire ciao bambino me prend comme un junkie camé a la cocaine! Je n'arrive pas à faire le pas... Pourtant je ne suis pas famille (trop de pb mais bon) ni trop ami... Je n'arrive à me fixer sur rien : si je fais le mm chose pendant 1mois c'est la déprime!!! Aujourd'hui je suis avec une femme (cela fait 3ans), et franchement c'est la seul chose qui me retienne je crois. doit'on vivre de maniere égoiste? penser à soi et rendre l'autre malheureux et soi meme peut etre? doi'je tout laisser et m'en aller vivre comme mon coeur me le demande. rien qu'en ecrivant ce message j'ai l'adrenaline du voyage (comme un matin de noel) qui s'empare de moi... Que faire? Ps: les forum psycho : très peu pour moi...merci
Tu es encore à un âge où tu peux facilement tout plaquer pour voyager, alors, lance-toi !
Si l'on doit être égoïste ? Oui, je le pense, car on ne vit qu'une fois, et pas pour les autres.
Sauf si tu vis avec quelqu'un : tu fais dans ce cas le choix de partager ta vie avec une personne et j'estime que tu n'as pas le droit d'être égoïste avec la personne avec laquelle tu vis. Au contraire, il faut savoir être généreux, partager et donner. Mais si cela ne te convient pas, la vie de célibataire t'es peut-être mieux adaptée. Il n'y au aucune "obligation" (ni sociale, ni culturelle) à être "fixé" dans la vie... surtout à ton âge !
Ps: les forum psycho : très peu pour moi...merci
Heu... mais alors, pour quoi poses-tu ces questions existentielles ?
Si l'on doit être égoïste ? Oui, je le pense, car on ne vit qu'une fois, et pas pour les autres.
Sauf si tu vis avec quelqu'un : tu fais dans ce cas le choix de partager ta vie avec une personne et j'estime que tu n'as pas le droit d'être égoïste avec la personne avec laquelle tu vis. Au contraire, il faut savoir être généreux, partager et donner. Mais si cela ne te convient pas, la vie de célibataire t'es peut-être mieux adaptée. Il n'y au aucune "obligation" (ni sociale, ni culturelle) à être "fixé" dans la vie... surtout à ton âge !
Ps: les forum psycho : très peu pour moi...merci
Heu... mais alors, pour quoi poses-tu ces questions existentielles ?
Bonjour,
Ps: les forum psycho : très peu pour moi...merci
Sauf que c'est un peu un écho à tes questions que tu espères entendre ! C'est vrai qu'à chaque période de sa vie correspond des demandes, des désirs et des envies. A 20 ans lorsqu'on décide déjà de vivre en couple, c'est que cela correspond à une attente pas vraiment celle de vouloir découvrir le monde et d'aller voir ailleurs. Il faut aussi se méfier de ses rêves car ils ne correspondent que rarement avec la réalité mais le regret de ne rien entreprendre est encore plus frustrant. Je crois qu'il faut aller là où son instinct le guide tout en sachant que cela requière beaucoup d’efforts et de peurs à surmonter mais une vie ne doit pas devenir une succession d’actes manqués qui, avec l'expérience, deviendront lourds à gérer parce qu'on a tendance à idéaliser ce que l'on a pas réussi à entreprendre. Il faut réfléchir, interroger mais aussi se donner un temps de réflexion au delà duquel, il faut ensuite passer à autre chose.
Ps: les forum psycho : très peu pour moi...merci
Sauf que c'est un peu un écho à tes questions que tu espères entendre ! C'est vrai qu'à chaque période de sa vie correspond des demandes, des désirs et des envies. A 20 ans lorsqu'on décide déjà de vivre en couple, c'est que cela correspond à une attente pas vraiment celle de vouloir découvrir le monde et d'aller voir ailleurs. Il faut aussi se méfier de ses rêves car ils ne correspondent que rarement avec la réalité mais le regret de ne rien entreprendre est encore plus frustrant. Je crois qu'il faut aller là où son instinct le guide tout en sachant que cela requière beaucoup d’efforts et de peurs à surmonter mais une vie ne doit pas devenir une succession d’actes manqués qui, avec l'expérience, deviendront lourds à gérer parce qu'on a tendance à idéaliser ce que l'on a pas réussi à entreprendre. Il faut réfléchir, interroger mais aussi se donner un temps de réflexion au delà duquel, il faut ensuite passer à autre chose.
La réponse est oui. Mais quelle était la question ?
Woody Allen
une seule réponse : ne pas partir si c'est pour fuir, règle d'abord tes problèmes, sinon ils te suivront et en pire. Après, tu feras ce que bon te semble et dans de bonnes conditions.
En fait, pour faire plus simple:
Je ne supporte pas la moindre routine, si je refait la même chose jour après jour, je me sens vraiment mal...j'ai limpression que le voyage et le fait de tout laisser derrière soi me permettra de vivre enfin le moment present. Je ne me sens pas accompli, j'ai l'impression que la verite est ailleurs. Je me pose tout les jours la question:
Pourquoi je fait ca? Pourquoi je ne laisserai pas tomber cette vie ou l'on existe que 5h par jour. Ne peut t on pas dedier son existence a vivre pour soi a chaque instant? Je ne quitte pas des pbs mais j'aimerai juste que ce soit des pbs existentielle!
Et les forum psycho: est trop depressif pour moi et il n'y a pas forcement la dimension du voyage inclus...
Merci a vous.
La vérité, elle est en toi...le reste est mirage, tu as peut-être commencé trop jeune : travail, relation, etc... et tu te sens piégé par le système, pas eu le temps de secouer tes ailes...réfléchis, mets-toi en paix et décide
bonjour supertramp. pourquoi ne pas partir avec ta copine. De toute façon si tu ne pars pas tu ne penseras qu ' a ça. dans la restauration tu dois avoir des possibilités. Tu as 20 ans, si tu ne fais pas les choses maintenant ta vie ne sera que regrets. Tu as les volontaires du progrés( VP )à Linas près de Paris qui peuvent te renseigner. Bonnes reflexions
marie
Que faire?
Deux solutions :
1, tu relis les dizaines de sujets 100% identiques au tien 2, tu quittes la France et tu ne reviens JAMAIS.
Deux solutions :
1, tu relis les dizaines de sujets 100% identiques au tien 2, tu quittes la France et tu ne reviens JAMAIS.
Salut l'artiste,
Je vais être direct, mais ce genre de message me fait penser aux états d'âmes d'un soixantenaire complètement carbonisé par la vie dont la seule ligne d'horizon est l'espoir de sa prochaine retraite.
Vu ton âge je trouve cela plutot inquiétant et je ne m'étonne pas qu'aujourd'hui des lycéens descendent dans la rue ... pour défendre leur retraite en 2050!🤪
Je vais être direct, mais ce genre de message me fait penser aux états d'âmes d'un soixantenaire complètement carbonisé par la vie dont la seule ligne d'horizon est l'espoir de sa prochaine retraite.
Vu ton âge je trouve cela plutot inquiétant et je ne m'étonne pas qu'aujourd'hui des lycéens descendent dans la rue ... pour défendre leur retraite en 2050!🤪
Si tu as vraiment une petite expérience dans la restauration, alors c'est une chance car dans ce job tu trouveras du travail partout. Tu peux faire un petit essai quelques mois et si ça ne va pas, tu reviens.
J'aurais un fils de ton âge maintenant je le pousserais à aller en Austalie. Il y a vraiment des possibilités là-bas pour les moins de 25 ans. Profites en. Et puis là-bas, les contrats ne sont pas les mêmes qu'içi, tu peux partir d'un boulot quand tu veux (et t'en faire virer aussi). Par contre il faut parler anglais a little bit.
Bonne chance
daisy
Bonjour,
Tes problèmes sont personnels; comme tu le dis si bien; on n'est pas sur un forum psycho ici😉 Simplement une chose; ne crois pas qu'en fuyant tes problèmes ici tu trouveras bonheur ailleurs. Ce qui ont en général réussis une expatriation, l'ont fait de manière murement réfléchie et surtout dans un état d'esprit positif; non en fuyant la vie quotidienne.
La routine; tu l'as retrouveras de partout; si tu crois que c'est mieux ailleurs ( à moins de vivre éternellement en vacances lol). La famille; chacun ses problèmes mais sa famille est souvent le bien le plus précieux qu'on ait. L'instabilité; si tu l'as ici tu l'auras ailleurs aussi.
Le voyage doit être positif l' ami; les problèmes tu les enméneras dans tes bagages.. C'est à toi de savoir ce que tu veux pour ta vie; personne ne pourra t'aider dans ce sens; sauf un psychologue et encore🤪
Tes problèmes sont personnels; comme tu le dis si bien; on n'est pas sur un forum psycho ici😉 Simplement une chose; ne crois pas qu'en fuyant tes problèmes ici tu trouveras bonheur ailleurs. Ce qui ont en général réussis une expatriation, l'ont fait de manière murement réfléchie et surtout dans un état d'esprit positif; non en fuyant la vie quotidienne.
La routine; tu l'as retrouveras de partout; si tu crois que c'est mieux ailleurs ( à moins de vivre éternellement en vacances lol). La famille; chacun ses problèmes mais sa famille est souvent le bien le plus précieux qu'on ait. L'instabilité; si tu l'as ici tu l'auras ailleurs aussi.
Le voyage doit être positif l' ami; les problèmes tu les enméneras dans tes bagages.. C'est à toi de savoir ce que tu veux pour ta vie; personne ne pourra t'aider dans ce sens; sauf un psychologue et encore🤪
Lorsque tu ne sais pas où tu vas, regarde d'où tu viens (proverbe Africain)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
mais tu sais, ce que l'on fait au quotidien devient automatiquement routine, même le voyage...attendre le bus, acheter billets de train, trouver où dormir, où manger, renouvelé chaque jour, c'est aussi de la routine au bout d'un certain temps, même respirer devient routine.
Je vais te raconter un truc, qui n'a rien à voir, mais un jour, je me suis trouvée dans un endroit, où il y avait pénurie de tout, sauf ... de langoustes ! le premier jour, miam ! on se dit quelle aubaine, il se trouve que j'aime ça. Mais au bout d'une semaine, à force d'en avoir au petit dej, au dej, au diner, à la mayonaise, grillée, bouillie, crue, etc, je n'en pouvais plus, je revais de boite de sardines à l'huile ! Tout ça pour te dire que quoi que l'on fasse, il faut le faire bien dans la tête, et non pas pour fuir.
Je vais te raconter un truc, qui n'a rien à voir, mais un jour, je me suis trouvée dans un endroit, où il y avait pénurie de tout, sauf ... de langoustes ! le premier jour, miam ! on se dit quelle aubaine, il se trouve que j'aime ça. Mais au bout d'une semaine, à force d'en avoir au petit dej, au dej, au diner, à la mayonaise, grillée, bouillie, crue, etc, je n'en pouvais plus, je revais de boite de sardines à l'huile ! Tout ça pour te dire que quoi que l'on fasse, il faut le faire bien dans la tête, et non pas pour fuir.
" tu as peut-être commencé trop jeune : travail, relation, etc... et tu te sens piégé par le système, pas eu le temps de secouer tes ailes...réfléchis, mets-toi en paix et décide "
Bonjour,
Depuis une bonne heure que je lis tous vos post sur FV, je viens de tomber sur cette phrase qui retient toute mon attention. Elle décrit exactement ce que je ressent a l'interieur de moi. Je me dis que c'est impossible, que je ne peux pas etre déja "blazé" par le systeme.
Ma question est simple : Comment éviter ce piege ??
J'ai commencé trés jeune a vouloir devenir un modele, a gagné beaucoup d'argent, devenir propriétaire, créer ma propre entreprise.... et aujourd'hui j'ai 23ans, j'ai un beau CV (malgré trés peu de diplome). Mais j'ai envie de "foutre le camp", faire le point sur moi-meme, et donner un vrai but a ma vie (autre qu'une belle carriere). Aujourd'hui je reve d'aventure (colombie, traversé des océans en voilier, expéditions scientifique aux 4 coins du monde...), seulement j'ai peur de ne plus jamais revenir aux normes de notre société, j'ai peur de perdre le fil...
C'est la seul chose qui me retient...de m'ouvrir trop l'esprit (ci ce n'est pas déja fait) et me rendre compte que notre société est basé sur de fausses valeurs. (systeme monétaire, corruption, competition entre les individus, guerre inutiles, famine, ...) Ca me choque vraiment de voir des gens mourir de faim, juste car cela couterai trop cher de rendre leurs terres fertiles, alors que des milliardaires peuvent claquer 100 000euro un vendredi soir au casino de Monte-Carlo. Ou de voir des clochards dans la rue, avec des vetements crasseux, alors qu'avec la technologie actuel, cela ne coute casiment rien de fabriqué des vetements. Avant le systeme monétaire était nécessaire, car les produits/services été rares, ils avaient une vrai valeur marchande et un vrai cout de fabrication. A notre époque, on peut fabriqué 10 000 chemises en une aprés midi, et cela avec seulement 2 personnes (j'exagere peut etre un peu).
Bref, je sais que cela peut en choquer certains mais je pense que l'on n'a jamais été autant endoctriné dans l'histoire moderne par les médias, la politique, notre éducation, ...
Pardon de mettre un peu ecarté du sujet principale, moi qui voulait ecrire 2 lignes, mais quand l'inspiration vient, j'ai du mal a rester dans les rails.
Merci a vous tous, vive FV !! 😉
Bonjour,
Depuis une bonne heure que je lis tous vos post sur FV, je viens de tomber sur cette phrase qui retient toute mon attention. Elle décrit exactement ce que je ressent a l'interieur de moi. Je me dis que c'est impossible, que je ne peux pas etre déja "blazé" par le systeme.
Ma question est simple : Comment éviter ce piege ??
J'ai commencé trés jeune a vouloir devenir un modele, a gagné beaucoup d'argent, devenir propriétaire, créer ma propre entreprise.... et aujourd'hui j'ai 23ans, j'ai un beau CV (malgré trés peu de diplome). Mais j'ai envie de "foutre le camp", faire le point sur moi-meme, et donner un vrai but a ma vie (autre qu'une belle carriere). Aujourd'hui je reve d'aventure (colombie, traversé des océans en voilier, expéditions scientifique aux 4 coins du monde...), seulement j'ai peur de ne plus jamais revenir aux normes de notre société, j'ai peur de perdre le fil...
C'est la seul chose qui me retient...de m'ouvrir trop l'esprit (ci ce n'est pas déja fait) et me rendre compte que notre société est basé sur de fausses valeurs. (systeme monétaire, corruption, competition entre les individus, guerre inutiles, famine, ...) Ca me choque vraiment de voir des gens mourir de faim, juste car cela couterai trop cher de rendre leurs terres fertiles, alors que des milliardaires peuvent claquer 100 000euro un vendredi soir au casino de Monte-Carlo. Ou de voir des clochards dans la rue, avec des vetements crasseux, alors qu'avec la technologie actuel, cela ne coute casiment rien de fabriqué des vetements. Avant le systeme monétaire était nécessaire, car les produits/services été rares, ils avaient une vrai valeur marchande et un vrai cout de fabrication. A notre époque, on peut fabriqué 10 000 chemises en une aprés midi, et cela avec seulement 2 personnes (j'exagere peut etre un peu).
Bref, je sais que cela peut en choquer certains mais je pense que l'on n'a jamais été autant endoctriné dans l'histoire moderne par les médias, la politique, notre éducation, ...
Pardon de mettre un peu ecarté du sujet principale, moi qui voulait ecrire 2 lignes, mais quand l'inspiration vient, j'ai du mal a rester dans les rails.
Merci a vous tous, vive FV !! 😉
" Bonjour,
Depuis une bonne heure que je lis tous vos post sur FV, je viens de tomber sur cette phrase qui retient toute mon attention. Elle décrit exactement ce que je ressent a l'interieur de moi. Je me dis que c'est impossible, que je ne peux pas etre déja "blazé" par le systeme.
Ma question est simple : Comment éviter ce piege ?? "
... une première piste très simple : supprimer tous les miroirs de ton cadre de vie ? 🙂
... une première piste très simple : supprimer tous les miroirs de ton cadre de vie ? 🙂
C'est la seul chose qui me retient...de m'ouvrir trop l'esprit (ci ce n'est pas déja fait) et me rendre compte que notre société est basé sur de fausses valeurs. (systeme monétaire, corruption, competition entre les individus, guerre inutiles, famine, ...)
Si tu es déçu devant les valeurs de la société, rien ne t'empèche d'utiliser ton salaire pour les valeurs que tu considères comme vraies.
Mais si tu veux partir en voyage et arrêter de travailler, n'utilise pas les guerres, les famines, l'argent comme prétextes à ce départ... Aie l'honnéteté intellectuelle de dire : "je pars en voyage car je ne veux plus travailler".
L'argent n'est pas une mauvaise chose en soi, c'est l'utilisation qu'on en a. Le travail vécu comme un moyen et non comme un fin n'est pas une mauvaise chose non plus.
Si tu es déçu devant les valeurs de la société, rien ne t'empèche d'utiliser ton salaire pour les valeurs que tu considères comme vraies.
Mais si tu veux partir en voyage et arrêter de travailler, n'utilise pas les guerres, les famines, l'argent comme prétextes à ce départ... Aie l'honnéteté intellectuelle de dire : "je pars en voyage car je ne veux plus travailler".
L'argent n'est pas une mauvaise chose en soi, c'est l'utilisation qu'on en a. Le travail vécu comme un moyen et non comme un fin n'est pas une mauvaise chose non plus.
Je ne pars pas en voyage "car je ne veux plus travailler". Je suis biensur pret a travailler, meme gratuitement, a partir du moment ou j'apprend quelque chose de concret, des vrai valeurs qui sont utiles a ma survie. Je veux juste le faire de maniere enrichissante avec d'autres motivations que l'argent.
Je ne suis pas un féniant, et je pense l'avoir démontré depuis longtemp. J'ai juste besoin de faire le vide autour de moi, et de trouver ma vrai vocation, donner un sens a ma vie (autre de celui de faire une belle carriere).
Pour ce qui est du miroir, je ne comprend pas trés bien le sens de cette blague, ci s'en est une. :)
En tt cas merci de vos réponses ! Je ne sais pas trop quoi attendre de vos réponses, ci ce n'est des critique utiles, des bons conseils, et votre vision des choses.
Pour ce qui est du miroir, je ne comprend pas trés bien le sens de cette blague, ci s'en est une. :)
En tt cas merci de vos réponses ! Je ne sais pas trop quoi attendre de vos réponses, ci ce n'est des critique utiles, des bons conseils, et votre vision des choses.
A 23 ans, tu as juste un peu travailler... Dans les pays qui te font rêver, au même âge certains ont déjà 15 ans de travail derrière eux.
Dans ces pays, on n'a pas le temps pour les vagues à l'âme.
Et j'avoue que j'ai un peu de mal avec ces jérémiades !
Pour les conseils, vu le nombre de messages ressemblant à la virgule au tien, tu devrais en trouver des tonnes ! Fais une recherche.
Giles
PS : à 25 ans pour vivre mes rêves, je suis parti travailler au Costa Rica... travailler pas prendre des vacances.
Dans ces pays, on n'a pas le temps pour les vagues à l'âme.
Et j'avoue que j'ai un peu de mal avec ces jérémiades !
Pour les conseils, vu le nombre de messages ressemblant à la virgule au tien, tu devrais en trouver des tonnes ! Fais une recherche.
Giles
PS : à 25 ans pour vivre mes rêves, je suis parti travailler au Costa Rica... travailler pas prendre des vacances.
à 25 ans pour vivre mes rêves, je suis parti travailler au Costa Rica... travailler pas prendre des vacances
salut, tout est dit, et là, mais si en plus il faut travailler ! 😎
salut, tout est dit, et là, mais si en plus il faut travailler ! 😎
+1 🙂
Salut,
Mon conseil serait de ne pas écouter les conseils des autres pas plus que du mien d'ailleurs qui te dirait d'écouter la petite voix qui parle en toi et ton instinct plutôt qu'argumenter, raisonner ... Je ressentais le mêmes choses que toi à ton âge.. J'ai pris la route pour fuir ( certainement) ma famille la routine l'ordre établi. mais aussi avec une grande soif de découvrir... et je n'ai pas été déçu même si ça n'a pas été très facile...mais ça a été pour moi le début d'un grand changement. C'était pourtant plus facile ( il me semble) à cette époque de le faire... j'ai pas eu de problème pour me réintégrer dans la société mais je pense que c'est moins évident aujourd'hui...
Mon conseil serait de ne pas écouter les conseils des autres pas plus que du mien d'ailleurs qui te dirait d'écouter la petite voix qui parle en toi et ton instinct plutôt qu'argumenter, raisonner ... Je ressentais le mêmes choses que toi à ton âge.. J'ai pris la route pour fuir ( certainement) ma famille la routine l'ordre établi. mais aussi avec une grande soif de découvrir... et je n'ai pas été déçu même si ça n'a pas été très facile...mais ça a été pour moi le début d'un grand changement. C'était pourtant plus facile ( il me semble) à cette époque de le faire... j'ai pas eu de problème pour me réintégrer dans la société mais je pense que c'est moins évident aujourd'hui...
Ben moi je trouve qu'il ressemble plutôt à l'archétype du jeune que j'ai été et je ne pense pas avoir été le seul dans ce cas.. on a été nombreux à se poser ces questions et finir par prendre la "route des Indes" même si la démarche peut maintenant sembler risible et illusoire... et je ne pense pas non plus que le problème des retraites soit vraiment son souci comme il n'était guère le mien à son âge....
A supertramp06: Ton malaise dans la société et les questions que tu te poses sont tout à fait saines et bien naturelles.. je crois que nous avons atteint le fond de l'abîme en ce qui concerne le matérialisme et ceux qui n'en ont pas conscience sont à mon avis bien plus à plaindre..
A supertramp06: Ton malaise dans la société et les questions que tu te poses sont tout à fait saines et bien naturelles.. je crois que nous avons atteint le fond de l'abîme en ce qui concerne le matérialisme et ceux qui n'en ont pas conscience sont à mon avis bien plus à plaindre..
Cela me fait penser un peu à cet article:
http://eco.rue89.com/2010/12/09/le-cafard-des-trentenaires-dores-est-il-indecent-179873
Pourtant, il est plus jeune.
http://eco.rue89.com/2010/12/09/le-cafard-des-trentenaires-dores-est-il-indecent-179873
Pourtant, il est plus jeune.
Ya peut-être un peu de ça mais pas seulement...On en est arrivé au point ou la vie est surtout définie par l'emploi (si on a la chance d'en avoir un stable.). avec tout ce qui va avec: productivité, efficacité, rentabilité image de soi, l'avoir, le paraître face à d'autres valeurs qu'on a oubliées..
Et puis ya les rencoeurs les jalousies: il devrait être content il a des diplomes et du travail! tout le monde n'a pas cette chance..
Le probleme des retraites est le dernier de mes soucis. D'ailleurs j'ai du cotisé au maximum 6 mois sur mes 5 ans de vie active (car travaillant a l'étranger).
Je ne compte sur personne, ni sur aucune aide de l'état pour me donner une retraite. Et je pense que tous le monde devrais trouver un solution personnelle pour ses vieux jours. C'est facile de se reposer sur la collectivité, plus facile que se prendre en main et prendre ses propres initiatives (bonnes ou mauvaises).
On n'est jamais mieux servie que par soi-meme.
Biensur je suis conscient que cela est inconcevable pour la plupart des gens ...
C'est facile de se reposer sur la collectivité, plus facile que se prendre en main et prendre ses propres initiatives (bonnes ou mauvaises).
On n'est jamais mieux servie que par soi-même.
Faut tout de même pas exagérer;quand on a cotisé et qu'on touche une retraite on ne fait pas que se reposer sur la collectivité..Ceux qui par choix ( peu nombreux) par ignorance ou autre motif ne le font pas peuvent ensuite se targuer de "se prendre en main" (Si ils n'ont pas d'autres solution...) Et comment ? On sait pas... Ce sera toujours plus ou moins la collectivité qui prendra en charge celui qui n'a jamais cotisé ne serait-ce que pour les soins de santé.( ce qui me parait juste d'ailleurs) Mais la question n'était pas là et qu'étant jeune tu ne penses pas à la retraite me semble tout à fait dans l'ordre des choses...
Faut tout de même pas exagérer;quand on a cotisé et qu'on touche une retraite on ne fait pas que se reposer sur la collectivité..Ceux qui par choix ( peu nombreux) par ignorance ou autre motif ne le font pas peuvent ensuite se targuer de "se prendre en main" (Si ils n'ont pas d'autres solution...) Et comment ? On sait pas... Ce sera toujours plus ou moins la collectivité qui prendra en charge celui qui n'a jamais cotisé ne serait-ce que pour les soins de santé.( ce qui me parait juste d'ailleurs) Mais la question n'était pas là et qu'étant jeune tu ne penses pas à la retraite me semble tout à fait dans l'ordre des choses...
Oui je te l'accord, j'ai un peu exagerer.. Je pensais surtout aux gens qui sont allé manifester contre la réforme des retraites.
salut, le fait de travailler a l'étranger ne signifie pas qu'on ne doit pas cotiser pour une retraite, perso je l'ai fait longtemps et tout en cotisant, en travaillant au Canada et aux US.
il est facile de dire que la retraite n'est pas ta tasse de thé, j'ai souvent entendu cela,
apres, le moment venu que se passe t-il ? eh bien on pleure ou on va demander de l'aide.... Il y en a beaucoup qui ne veulent pas entendre parler de cotisation, c'est facile ..... car le vrai probleme ce n'est pas la retraite, ce sont les cotisations.
et bien sur c'est la communauté qui va prendre en charge cela, et ce n'est pas normal comme dit dolma.... Il faut avoir la pudeur de s'inscrire dans la communauté aussi. c'est autant pour soi-même que pour les autres.
les retraites doivent être réformées bien sur, je suis totalement pour, d'ailleurs l'une des miennes vient du privé (par capitalisation) la meilleure d'ailleurs, pas de la caisse de retraite classique qui un jour tirera sa révérence, tuée par sa notoriété et par les syndicats fondus des acquis
Tout à fait d'accord 😉 Il est fort notre Gégé ! 😛 😎
Le ciel c'est comme la mer à l’envers,
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
salut
Partir, oui, mais il ne faut jamais partir pour fuir quelque chose, sans quoi tu retrouveras tes "obsessions" et tes "peurs" ) ton retour. Pourquoi ne pas partir à deux? ah ah !!!! on cherche a se placer ? coquinou......😉
Partir, oui, mais il ne faut jamais partir pour fuir quelque chose, sans quoi tu retrouveras tes "obsessions" et tes "peurs" ) ton retour. Pourquoi ne pas partir à deux? ah ah !!!! on cherche a se placer ? coquinou......😉
salut.....
rôôôôôôôô ! merci, avec un peu de matière extrêmement rare "la logique" on y arrive, mais c'est pas de ma faute.... Promis je recommencerai pas<<......
rôôôôôôôô ! merci, avec un peu de matière extrêmement rare "la logique" on y arrive, mais c'est pas de ma faute.... Promis je recommencerai pas<<......
Manifestement, tu as mal interprété mon "pourquoi ne pas partir à deux?". J'ai dit cela parce que le mec avait mentionné qu'il avait une copine, mais que de toute évidence il avait l'intention de la laisser derrière lui. De toute façon, il ne voudrait pas de moi, je suis trop vieux pour lui!
C'est n'est pas seulement de la logique, c'est plus riche que ça, et vivant ! 😛 😉
Le ciel c'est comme la mer à l’envers,
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
re-merci, et en plus certains interprètent des notes d'humour comme des pamphlets (vive la littérature !)🙂
c'est de l'ingratitude dans le combat que nous menons pour activer les souches fatiguées de certains neurones. .bla bla bla...bla bla bla.....tu vas voir bientot notre tatrabitué va arriver.....😉
m'enfin !..
je vais dans qq jours partir en ouacances bien méritées 😛 15 jours chez des amis gasy entre la rochelle et cognac. Puis apres on se préparera pour mada...Elle est pas belle la vie ?
heureusement que j'ai cotisé.....😏😏
Hola !
Là je pars 3 mois en Inde du sud mais il faudra que je vienne dans ton ile passer quelques mois aussi, mais le climat politique n'est pas très rassurant 😛 😎
Quelle est la meilleure période pour le climat, météo ?
Le ciel c'est comme la mer à l’envers,
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
ah oui, meilleure période ? pour moi toutes 😉😉 bon pour octobre a Décembre bon pour avril a juin mais les autres aussi...😏
tu sais le climat politique est sensiblement le même depuis 30 ans , a chaque élection, les esprits s'échauffent, mais c'est surtout a Tana la capitale, ailleurs c'est cool. Mais ça ne touche pas les touristes ni les résidents.>....Pour la sécurité, les vrais voyageurs savent ce qu'ils peuvent faire et pas faire donc rien de particulier... C'est un pays merveilleux...Mais suis-je impartial ? pas sur...😉 quand on aime .......
ça je n'en doute pas ! 😉
Pour en revenir au sujet: faut pas avoir peur de partir seul, quand on aime la solitude, c'est vrai ça ! 🤪 😛 😎
Pour en revenir au sujet: faut pas avoir peur de partir seul, quand on aime la solitude, c'est vrai ça ! 🤪 😛 😎
Le ciel c'est comme la mer à l’envers,
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
en fait ne dit on pas : - la solitude ça n'existe pas .......
La vie est courte, donc il faut savoir être un peu égoiste. On vit sa vie et pas celle des autres. A mon divorce en 1980 eh! oui ça date, j'ai commencé par acheter une moto, puis à voyager 4 mois par an. Je m'étais arrangée pour trouver un job pour partir de janvier à mai. Là depuis passé 3 ans je fais le tour du monde avec un tchacheur connu sur le net et nous nous sommes mariés en Thaïlande voilé juste 2 ans et 7 mois.
C'est vrai que nous sommes en pré-retraite, mais il ne faut pas attendre cette âge là pour voyager. J'ai une fille que je laissais encore petite à ses grands-parents pour faire mes voyages, pour moi c'était primordial autrement je me sentais crever. Plein de monde m'ont critiquée, j'ai passé par dessus, et même ma fille maintenant me comprend et ne m'en veut plus de cet abandon annuel qui la marquait beaucoup sans que je m'en rende compte.
Oui c'est pas bien pas bien du tout, mais j'ai été jusqu'au bout de mes rêves et même plus. Le tour du monde je n'en avais jamais rêvé autant.
Pour vous qui êtes jeune, pas de problème, vous partez, et il y a toujours possibilité de trouver un job en cours de route. Mais il faut savoir l'Anglais, primordial. Vous pouvez travailler dans un grand hôtel, vous serez certainement plus qualifié que les gens du coin. Il y a aussi l'alliance Française qui dans certains endoits cherchent des profs de Français. Sans formation de prof, il y a possibilité d'enseigner aux débutants. Et surtout la vie n'est pas cher suivant les pays que vous choisissez.
Lancez vous, je me répète, mais la vie est courte et c'est la vôtre pour le meilleure et le pire. Il faut vivre ses rêves et non rêver sa vie. Bon vent
D.M.C
54 ans en préretraite... Les moins de 40 ans n'auront pas la chance qu'ont eu les baby-boomers.
Tout à fait d'accord madame ...
Pour ma part, il y a longtemps aussi, j'ai tout plaqué pour le voyage ..
Le mal du voyage ...
Il n'y a rien de pire que d'être là a attendre un départ, vers une destination, tandis que celui ou celle qui vous accompagne dans la vie, ne veut pas ou plus vous accompagner dans le voyage ...
Une personne aurait votre destinée en main, alors que le monde est peuplée de beaucoup de personnes que nous ne rencontrerions jamais, à rester dans cette routine qui quelque part vos fait crever à petits feux ? ...Au nom del ' Amour ? ...
Non merçi ...
Comme je l'ai lu un jour sur ce forum et qui est tellement vrai, du moins à mes yeux
Vivez vos rêves, ne rêvez pas votre vie ...
Nous avons bossé dur malgré les voyages chaques années, et ce n'est pas l'état qui va nous prendre en charge, mais nos économies faite durant nos années de labeur. Donc faites comme nous et vous pourrez partir en pré-retraite à 50 ans. Il faut assurer ses arrières sans compter sur d'éventuelles rentes qui sont très hypothétiques. Voilà ce que les baby-boomers vous conseillent. Même il y a quelques années nous ne nous faisions pas d'illusions
D.M.C
Comme vous avez raison. En fin 07 je vivais confortablement dans une grande maison avec mon ami, j'avais un billet pour l'Argentine, car il ne voyageait pas mais me laissait partir, 4 mois en début d'année et 2 x 2 semaines dans l'année. Mais à fin 07, j'ai jeté mon billet pour l'Argentine pour en acheter un pour la Thaïlande que j'avais visiter en début 07 pour la Xème fois. Et c'était pour retrouver un Tchatcheur que je ne connaissais que par internet mais qui aimait les voyages et commençait un voyage de 6 mois tout seul. J'ai tout plaqué, presque tout laissé mes affaires dans cette grande maison, je n'ai pour ainsi dire plus grand chose, mais nous voyageons depuis le 10.10 07 et que du bonheur. Il faut trouver l'âme soeur ou voyager tout seul. je vous souhaite de vivre pleinement vos rêves.
D.M.C
On lit ça et là qu'il ne faut pas partir pour fuir : c'est vrai. On lit aussi qu'il faut suivre son cœur : c'est vrai aussi. Au milieu de tout ça il faut faire ses choix.
J'ai 20 ans de plus que toi et je pense comprendre ce que tu ressens, l'ayant fortement éprouvé moi-même vers 18 ans. J'ai traîné un peu avant de réaliser mes rêves de voyages. La peur de l'inconnu est souvent présente malgré le désir qu'on a de cet inconnu. Tout ceci est normal, nous ne sommes que des humains.
Là où tu te bloques un peu trop, à mon avis, c'est lorsque tu dis que tu as peur de ne plus revenir aux normes de la société. Pourquoi faudrait-il que tu aies peur de revenir à quelque chose qui, à l'évidence, ne te plaît plus.
Je crois plutôt que ce qui te fait peur, c'est de ne pas savoir dans quelle mesure un voyage pourrait te changer. Tu as peur de toi-même. Cette crainte t'incite à vouloir savoir avant de partir ce que tu seras devenu après. C'est impossible. Fais les choses ou ne les fais pas, mais ne perds pas ton temps à essayer de deviner ce qui va se passer en toi. Tu le sauras au fur et à mesure. La vie elle se fait, elle se crée. Penser n'est pas agir.
Alors lâche prise, fais-toi un petit pécule, pars un mois, pas davantage dans un premier temps, sois attentif à ce que tu ressens, reviens, et tes idées seront beaucoup plus claires sur toi et le monde qui t'entoure.
Je n'ai pas lu toute la discussion, mais pour ma part ( et avec ma petite, mais longue expérience ..... 😉) il ne faut surtout pas se créer des regrets, et pour moi cela a toujours été ma ligne de conduite ... céder à mes envies pour ne surtout pas un jour me retourner et me dire que j'aurais du ...... je trouve qu'il n'y rien de plus dramatique que cela, se dire que l'on a pas été au bout de ses rêves .... alors il faut vaincre ses peurs, qu'elles qu'elles soient, car pire que la peur est le goût plus qu'amer du regret et de l 'envie non assouvie .....
Tout à fait!
Le thème de la fuite revient souvent dans le voyage. Si il y a toujours une part de fuite, je me demande parfois l'interêt de la question.
Ok, il ne faut pas que cela soit la principale raison, fuir ses problèmes, une relation etc..
Mais bon, beaucoup de gens fuient quelque chose grâce à d'autres moyens: l'argent, la drogue, le sexe, le travail, le succés, le sport, une passion, l'amour même parfois.
Alors s'il y a fuite et que cela est dans le voyage, franchement, c'est pas le pire:-)
Le thème de la fuite revient souvent dans le voyage. Si il y a toujours une part de fuite, je me demande parfois l'interêt de la question.
Ok, il ne faut pas que cela soit la principale raison, fuir ses problèmes, une relation etc..
Mais bon, beaucoup de gens fuient quelque chose grâce à d'autres moyens: l'argent, la drogue, le sexe, le travail, le succés, le sport, une passion, l'amour même parfois.
Alors s'il y a fuite et que cela est dans le voyage, franchement, c'est pas le pire:-)
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Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
Hi everyone,
I’m Loulou, a French expat who’s been living in Southeast Asia for about fifteen years, currently in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. A passionate walker at heart, I’ve trekked in Nepal (Thorung La, Mardi Himal), India, Vietnam, and I’m still planning new hikes (Char Dham, Langtang, Annapurna).
I’ve just published my first travel journal, recounting three months of walking and encounters across India. A portion of the sales goes to an educational center I support in Kep, for children whose parents work in the salt marshes.
I’m also working on a second book about Nepal with a musician friend, focusing on the Mardi Himal trek—two independent perspectives on the same journey.
Happy to swap stories with you about the Himalayas, India, Southeast Asia, or just the urge to hit the road and walk far from home.
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"It seems to me that poverty would be less painful in the sun" wrote Aznavour...
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Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
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Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
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Hi everyone, just this once I’m not posting for a travel story, but to share a thought for Venezuela.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
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No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
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We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
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We're planning to spend a month in Vietnam. Is hiring a guide helpful?
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Wherever I go, my compass stays the same: observing and photographing wildlife, which I deeply admire and respect.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
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Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
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Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
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Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
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Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
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Hello everyone,
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Hello everyone,
I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
.
.Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

...
I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
Hello 🙂
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hi there,
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,

Hello to all East Africa lovers and nature enthusiasts in general,
While I prepare to share a recap of our latest trip/safari in Kenya soon, I’d like to wish you all a peaceful transition between 2025 and 2026.
Warm regards,
Puma2A.





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We’re a couple aged 58 and 63. We’ve just returned from a wonderful trip to South India in Tamil Nadu and a few days in Kerala. We traveled with a local French-speaking guide and his friend, the driver. They both live in Pondicherry. We spent 3 weeks with them in the most authentic way!
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
This catchy and somewhat mysterious title comes from several questions I’ve been asking myself.
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
Hi there,
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)