Alors oui, c'est clair que dire que CDG est un excellent aéroport est une blague, mais de dire que c'est le plus nul du monde, extrèmement sale, etc etc, aujourd'hui, je dois dire que non
Quelques points forts de CDG, que le monde entier doit nous envier... mais en espérant qu'ils ne les copient pas pour "s'améliorer" !!
Toilettes : Il n'y pas si longtemps, à l'arrivée au T2B en soirée, toilettes fermées, les seules disponibles sont celles de la gare TGV facturées 0.50 EUR pour un état presque insalubre !
La gare TGV : regardes les files d'attente devant les guichet le matin ! pauvres touristes... les machines automatiques ?? Elles n'acceptent QUE les carte de crédit émises en France ! bravo dans un aéroport international ! La SNCF a aussi ce genre de pratique dans une gare située à l'étranger, ou la clientele étrangere ne peut acheter un billet SNCF avant de prendre le train poru la francce...
La gare de Roissypole : Magnifiquement dénomée "Aeroport charles de gaulle 1 terminaux 1 et 3"... on aurait pu faire plus simple... bonjour les labyrintes pour sortir ! Et même si c'est évident pour un parisien, ca n'est pas aussi facile pour un touriste de savoir qu'il faut le ticket pour la sortie de la zone reservée ! Et la fréquente présence policiere pour attraper les pauvres étourdis !
L'acces par train ? Magnifique RER B que le monde entier doit nous envier ! Sale, mauvaises odeurs, saturé ! Avec une magnifique surtaxe faisant passer le billet à 8.50 EUR le trajet et une partie des billets bon marché non valables pour faire vendre des abonnements surtaxés ! Sans compter l'insécurité systématique, l'absence de personnel de controle ou de sécurité dans les trains, la mendicité agressive SYSTEMATIQUE dans les trains directs par des musiciens, sans parler des retards systematiques, des annulations de trains, et des greves fréquentes pour motifs futils ! Et aucune annonce dans une langue étrangere !
Terminal 2B : filtres de sureté saturés entrainant de nombreux retard, premier filtre AVANT le check in ! merci pour les accompagnants ! salles d'embarquement tres petites seulement des distributeurs automatiques !
Terminal 2D : magnifique couloir d'attente unique, et surtout l'échaffaudage qui sert de passage entre l'arrivée passerelle et la zone publique !
Terminal 2G : terminal dit écologique... magnifique ! Pas relié aux transports publics depuis Paris, ni même par le magnifique CDGVAL ! Navette bus obligatoire depuis les terminaux 2F ou 2D !
Terminal 1 : magnifiques satellite ! Bon courage pour le passage des filtres de sureté sous dimensionnés
PAXBUS : souvent tres remplis, certains véhicules tres anciens et inconfortables, trajets parfois tres lents ! Raison ? le manque de passerelle d'une part, mais aussi la non commutabilité des portes en Schengen/non-Schengen !
Salons : Je pense à celui du 2B, mais au 2D ca doit etre pareil ! Au 1er étage, pas d'isolation phonique avec le reste du terminal et un magnifique grillage de séparation coté zone publique ! Sans parler de certains salons situés dans les caves et sans fenetre, parfois meme sans toilettes à l'interieur !
Bagages : attente tres longue, pannes et saturation des tapis tres fréquente, livraison prioritaire tres aléatoire, sans parler des fréquentes affaires de vols dans les bagages...
CDGVAL :magnifique aussi ! il pourrait etre rebatisé PNAFVAL, il semble etre concu pour permettre aux PN d'AF de rejoindre leurs bureaux que pour les passagers ! Des terminaux 2B et 2A ? bon courage pour la marche à pieds ! Du terminal 3 ? A pieds sous la pluie en traverssant une route tres fréquentée ! Du teminal 1 ? depuis la zone arrivée, ascenseur obligatoire, les étages ne sont pas reliés !
Correspondances : passages aux filtres obligatoire lors de la correspondance, quand ce n'est pas un passage par la zone publique ! Correspondance du 2D au 2E... amusez vous bien !
Salon arrivée : Air France uniquement... et il faut aller au terminal 2C, pas le plus facile d'acces quand la majorité des vols arrivent au 2E ou 2F ! Et lorsque les filtres PAF sont saturés aux 2E ou 2F, INTERDICTION de prendre la navette en zone reservée pour aller au 2C ou les filtres peuvent etre plus fluides !
Restauration : choix fantastique ! restaurants fermés à 22h00, offre tres limitée en zone réservée ! Cherchez un Mc Do en zone reservée ou un café à prix abordable !
J'ai du oublier certains points forts de ce magnifique aéroport, dont les taxes sont parmis les plus élevées du monde, qui doit assurer aux actionnaires de confortables bénéfices ! Mais comme le monde entier est leur invité... Je n'oserai jamais traiter des invités de la sorte... Mais ADP n'a aucun scrupule à le faire avec les hotes de notre pays !
Service public à la francaise... quand tu nous tiens !
Hello,
Since it came into force, Regulation 261/2004 of the European Parliament and Council, which defines air passenger rights, has faced fierce resistance from airlines, backed by IATA (the association representing almost all passenger airlines).
Beyond the airlines' often abusive—and even frequently bad-faith—resistance to passenger rights, IATA has been lobbying EU institutions for years, with the Council paying close attention for a long time.
As a result, the Council and the Commission have been proposing revisions to Regulation 261/2004 for years that are particularly unfavorable to passengers. The latest attempt nearly eliminated the right to compensation for delays of 3 hours or more upon arrival at the final destination.
However, since this is a regulation of both the European Parliament AND the Council, the two bodies had to agree.
But the European Parliament has always stood firm, consistently responding that passenger rights must be preserved.
After 11 years of struggle, it seems likely that we’re finally nearing the end of the match between the European Commission, the Council (the 27 heads of state or government), and the European Parliament.
Indeed, the Commission and the European Parliament have agreed on a text that will be debated again on Monday, July 6, 2026, with a vote scheduled for July 7, 2026. It’s very likely that this text, which would come into force in a year, will be adopted.
The main changes would be as follows: - Families with children will no longer be forced to pay to sit together on planes; - A flight will be considered canceled (not just delayed) if it departs more than one hour late; - Right to compensation for arrival at the final destination if the delay exceeds 3 hours (no longer "3 hours OR more"). The arrival time will be when the plane, having reached its parking spot, engages its parking brakes (no longer when the aircraft door opens); - Airlines can no longer refuse boarding or charge extra on the return flight for a passenger who didn’t take the outbound flight; - If a flight is canceled, the airline must, at the same time as informing passengers of the event, offer the choice between a refund and re-routing, and inform them of their rights to assistance and, if applicable, compensation; - The airline must, without undue delay, inform passengers of the reason; - In the case of a connecting flight, if the connection is missed and the delay at the final destination entitles the passenger to compensation, the responsible airline will be liable. This is very different from the current situation, where, under the KLM ruling, any airline operating a segment of the flight is liable for compensation. This promises more disputes that the Court of Justice of the European Union will have to resolve if two separate airlines operating segments of a connecting flight are both responsible for the delay. See this case for an example: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2026/04/18/swiss-international-air-lines-la-mauvaise-foi/ Moreover, this case demonstrates in advance another potential dispute: It could be argued that it wasn’t a missed connection since the flight was canceled before the first leg even departed. - Within 96 hours of a flight that could entitle passengers to compensation, the airline must contact them to inform them of their rights and explain the next steps. - Passengers must claim their right to compensation within 9 months. This is very different from the current situation, as Regulation 261/2004 sets no time limit. Currently, national law applies—in France, the limit is 5 years. The airline must respond within 30 days. If the airline refuses compensation on the grounds of "extraordinary circumstances," it must specify which type of case it refers to from the list in the annex of the new regulation. If the case isn’t on the list, the airline must explain what the event was, why it qualifies as extraordinary circumstances with "clear, substantial, and concise" explanations, and why it’s directly linked to the reason given. It must also declare what "reasonable measures" were taken to mitigate the issue. This is, of course, a huge change in the regulation, with the clear goal of preventing airlines from declaring just anything as "extraordinary circumstances" to avoid compensation. - If, within 3 hours of a last-minute canceled or delayed flight, the airline hasn’t offered re-routing under comparable transport conditions and as soon as possible—whether on one of its own flights or another airline’s—the passenger will have the right to arrange their own re-routing and demand a refund for the new ticket, up to 400% of the original ticket price. This is a significant improvement that would have likely prevented the case described here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/01/12/reacheminement-catastrophique-droit-indemnisation-meme-circonstances-extraordinaires-2/ - If a flight is canceled due to "extraordinary circumstances," the airline will only be required to offer up to 3 nights in a hotel. This is a major change, as there’s currently no limit. Expect disputes if the extraordinary circumstances end while the passenger hasn’t been re-routed. - The price of a flight, as first displayed, must obligatorily include a cabin bag. This doesn’t prevent the airline from offering a price reduction if the passenger waives the cabin bag. This will put an end to abnormal practices, such as (just one example) Condor charging extra for a cabin bag on long-haul flights like Frankfurt (Germany)–Puerto Plata (Dominican Republic)–Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic)–Frankfurt. - Free correction of a passenger’s name if requested 48 hours before departure. Note: This can’t be used to replace one passenger with another—just to correct a typo, e.g., Dupont instead of Dpont. - Airlines’ websites and apps must include information on how to file a claim.
It’s clear that, despite a few details, these changes are very positive for upholding passenger rights. It remains to be seen whether this text will be definitively adopted on July 7, 2026, as is very likely, and, more importantly, whether IATA will encourage airlines to loyally respect these new rules or persist in their old habits.
Best regards,
Since it came into force, Regulation 261/2004 of the European Parliament and Council, which defines air passenger rights, has faced fierce resistance from airlines, backed by IATA (the association representing almost all passenger airlines).
Beyond the airlines' often abusive—and even frequently bad-faith—resistance to passenger rights, IATA has been lobbying EU institutions for years, with the Council paying close attention for a long time.
As a result, the Council and the Commission have been proposing revisions to Regulation 261/2004 for years that are particularly unfavorable to passengers. The latest attempt nearly eliminated the right to compensation for delays of 3 hours or more upon arrival at the final destination.
However, since this is a regulation of both the European Parliament AND the Council, the two bodies had to agree.
But the European Parliament has always stood firm, consistently responding that passenger rights must be preserved.
After 11 years of struggle, it seems likely that we’re finally nearing the end of the match between the European Commission, the Council (the 27 heads of state or government), and the European Parliament.
Indeed, the Commission and the European Parliament have agreed on a text that will be debated again on Monday, July 6, 2026, with a vote scheduled for July 7, 2026. It’s very likely that this text, which would come into force in a year, will be adopted.
The main changes would be as follows: - Families with children will no longer be forced to pay to sit together on planes; - A flight will be considered canceled (not just delayed) if it departs more than one hour late; - Right to compensation for arrival at the final destination if the delay exceeds 3 hours (no longer "3 hours OR more"). The arrival time will be when the plane, having reached its parking spot, engages its parking brakes (no longer when the aircraft door opens); - Airlines can no longer refuse boarding or charge extra on the return flight for a passenger who didn’t take the outbound flight; - If a flight is canceled, the airline must, at the same time as informing passengers of the event, offer the choice between a refund and re-routing, and inform them of their rights to assistance and, if applicable, compensation; - The airline must, without undue delay, inform passengers of the reason; - In the case of a connecting flight, if the connection is missed and the delay at the final destination entitles the passenger to compensation, the responsible airline will be liable. This is very different from the current situation, where, under the KLM ruling, any airline operating a segment of the flight is liable for compensation. This promises more disputes that the Court of Justice of the European Union will have to resolve if two separate airlines operating segments of a connecting flight are both responsible for the delay. See this case for an example: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2026/04/18/swiss-international-air-lines-la-mauvaise-foi/ Moreover, this case demonstrates in advance another potential dispute: It could be argued that it wasn’t a missed connection since the flight was canceled before the first leg even departed. - Within 96 hours of a flight that could entitle passengers to compensation, the airline must contact them to inform them of their rights and explain the next steps. - Passengers must claim their right to compensation within 9 months. This is very different from the current situation, as Regulation 261/2004 sets no time limit. Currently, national law applies—in France, the limit is 5 years. The airline must respond within 30 days. If the airline refuses compensation on the grounds of "extraordinary circumstances," it must specify which type of case it refers to from the list in the annex of the new regulation. If the case isn’t on the list, the airline must explain what the event was, why it qualifies as extraordinary circumstances with "clear, substantial, and concise" explanations, and why it’s directly linked to the reason given. It must also declare what "reasonable measures" were taken to mitigate the issue. This is, of course, a huge change in the regulation, with the clear goal of preventing airlines from declaring just anything as "extraordinary circumstances" to avoid compensation. - If, within 3 hours of a last-minute canceled or delayed flight, the airline hasn’t offered re-routing under comparable transport conditions and as soon as possible—whether on one of its own flights or another airline’s—the passenger will have the right to arrange their own re-routing and demand a refund for the new ticket, up to 400% of the original ticket price. This is a significant improvement that would have likely prevented the case described here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/01/12/reacheminement-catastrophique-droit-indemnisation-meme-circonstances-extraordinaires-2/ - If a flight is canceled due to "extraordinary circumstances," the airline will only be required to offer up to 3 nights in a hotel. This is a major change, as there’s currently no limit. Expect disputes if the extraordinary circumstances end while the passenger hasn’t been re-routed. - The price of a flight, as first displayed, must obligatorily include a cabin bag. This doesn’t prevent the airline from offering a price reduction if the passenger waives the cabin bag. This will put an end to abnormal practices, such as (just one example) Condor charging extra for a cabin bag on long-haul flights like Frankfurt (Germany)–Puerto Plata (Dominican Republic)–Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic)–Frankfurt. - Free correction of a passenger’s name if requested 48 hours before departure. Note: This can’t be used to replace one passenger with another—just to correct a typo, e.g., Dupont instead of Dpont. - Airlines’ websites and apps must include information on how to file a claim.
It’s clear that, despite a few details, these changes are very positive for upholding passenger rights. It remains to be seen whether this text will be definitively adopted on July 7, 2026, as is very likely, and, more importantly, whether IATA will encourage airlines to loyally respect these new rules or persist in their old habits.
Best regards,
