18 days of bliss in Morocco!
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MI Milo53 Regular ·
Cape Rhir or Cape Ghir.
JE Jeeaan Globetrotter ·
Gotta laugh a little—it’s great for your health!
Léa83 Regular ·
Not a breath of wind during our stay near Agadir. We were worried about fog, but there wasn’t a trace of it either. Perfect weather!
Léa
MA ManuMacaron Regular ·
hello yes, I’m back in the wind—it’s in Essaouira!
NA Narcisse27 ·
Hi there, It’s so great to share your experiences from your trip to Morocco—I’m happy for you! Nature is such a source of happiness, and it’ll always charm you. I love Morocco. Turkey and Tunisia also have this immense splendor in the warmth of the people, the sun, the traditions, the culture, and the cuisine. So, enjoy life—pack your bags!
Léa83 Regular ·
Thanks Adriana.
Léa
TR Trostang Globetrotter ·
A lot of us love Morocco.
TR Trostang Globetrotter ·
hello yes it's happening I'm back with the wind in Essaouira

Yeah, it's true. Essaouira, there's wind. But as soon as you pass Cape Ghir, there's no more wind... And there's sunshine...
DI Diamina Globetrotter ·
Hi Léa,

You’re making me want to go back to Morocco... with your gorgeous photos and travel journal. There are so many places you’ve shown that we didn’t get to see. Thanks for sharing!
Nord Chili, NOA, Sud Lipez, La Paz août 2012 https://voyageforum.com/forum/mois_dans_andes_peripeties_en_altitude_D5526293/ Apologie du southwest en hiver https://voyageforum.com/forum/apologie_sud-ouest_etats-unis_en_hiver_D5851267/ Impressions d'Afrique et de Namibie
TR Trostang Globetrotter ·
Oh yes, Morocco—we’re back there again...
DI Diamina Globetrotter ·
Hey Daniel,

But unfortunately for me, it's much farther than leaving from France!!🤪
Nord Chili, NOA, Sud Lipez, La Paz août 2012 https://voyageforum.com/forum/mois_dans_andes_peripeties_en_altitude_D5526293/ Apologie du southwest en hiver https://voyageforum.com/forum/apologie_sud-ouest_etats-unis_en_hiver_D5851267/ Impressions d'Afrique et de Namibie
HA Hannahannah Globetrotter ·
. for me, it's much farther than leaving from France!

Hi Diamina, I thought Martinique was a French department, so I must have been wrong 😉😉😉
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DI Diamina Globetrotter ·
Oh, you tease!! 😏

Did you know that your country code in France is 33 for international calls, and for us it’s 596, while for Guadeloupe it’s 590…? Did you know that on all country listings, France, Martinique, Guiana, Guadeloupe, and Réunion appear alongside the United States, Morocco, and others?😏
Nord Chili, NOA, Sud Lipez, La Paz août 2012 https://voyageforum.com/forum/mois_dans_andes_peripeties_en_altitude_D5526293/ Apologie du southwest en hiver https://voyageforum.com/forum/apologie_sud-ouest_etats-unis_en_hiver_D5851267/ Impressions d'Afrique et de Namibie
HA Hannahannah Globetrotter ·
🙂🙂🙂 Even on VF: destination France... no Martinique, no New Caledonia, no French Guiana, and more 😉 But I didn’t know about the dialing code trick. VF is a great tool for sharing knowledge. 😎 For the New Year, I’m sending you this postcard from Andalusia (near Jaén). Wishing you lots of travels in 2020.

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DI Diamina Globetrotter ·
Not on VF, but check out a car rental site, for example, or to get the ESTA, ... So cute, those four-legged horned creatures... what are they?

Lots of trips planned for 2020.

Thanks. 😏 Wishing you lots of trips in 2020 too.
Nord Chili, NOA, Sud Lipez, La Paz août 2012 https://voyageforum.com/forum/mois_dans_andes_peripeties_en_altitude_D5526293/ Apologie du southwest en hiver https://voyageforum.com/forum/apologie_sud-ouest_etats-unis_en_hiver_D5851267/ Impressions d'Afrique et de Namibie
HA Hannahannah Globetrotter ·
These are hinds (female deer) or young stags. You can tell them apart from roe deer (which have been decimated by disease in the region) by the fact they have a tail.
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TR Trostang Globetrotter ·
Hey Daniel,

But unfortunately for me, it's much farther than leaving from France!!🤪

I totally get it. South America sounds amazing, but it's not exactly around the corner. So, I'm treating myself to Morocco. And it's really not a punishment at all.
RO Romulus41 Regular ·
These are does (female deer) or young deer. They’re distinguished from roe deer (decimated by disease in the region) by the fact they have a tail.

Hi Hannah,

The day you find does with antlers, let me know! 😏 Young deer (daguet) either, since they’re not cervids but caprids.

They’re mountain goats.
Cordialement, Romuald

“Un proverbe chinois dit que lorsqu'on n'a plus rien à dire, on cite généralement un proverbe chinois.”
HA Hannahannah Globetrotter ·
Hi there,

I can't post the photo of the roe deer (it's too small for the Travel Journal format)—what a shame, you would've loved seeing one. I admit I messed up with the doe 😉 The only goats in these mountains are the Iberian ones, stunning with their big, curved horns—that’s why I went for the roe deer instead. There aren’t many roe deer left; they were wiped out by an epidemic after fallow deer (carriers of a virus) were introduced at the start of the last century. Thanks for the correction about the does 😎😎😎
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RO Romulus41 Regular ·
I promise you, those aren’t roe deer fawns. ;)

Your photo is definitely of goats, no doubt about it.

Here’s a mountain goat in Andalusia: https://www.ecotintas.com/naturaleza/62259/Andalucia-Analizan-enfermedades-poblaciones-cabra-montes-jabali-Sierra-Nevada

And here’s a young roe deer (a fawn): https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GCEU_frFR850FR850&biw=1920&bih=920&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=H4YkXreyMLTCxgObn46IBA&q=daguet+jeune+cerf+&oq=daguet+jeune+cerf+&gs_l=img.3..0i30.11957.12104..12290...0.0..0.101.289.2j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.u8YIzOuGRsM&ved=0ahUKEwj3vcr8jJDnAhU0oXEKHZuPA0EQ4dUDCAc&uact=5#imgrc=y3JHU-Zj9pOd0M:

The two animals have nothing in common—size, eye shape (iris), etc.
Cordialement, Romuald

“Un proverbe chinois dit que lorsqu'on n'a plus rien à dire, on cite généralement un proverbe chinois.”
HA Hannahannah Globetrotter ·
A link to a fallow deer with a photo.

https://chasse-les-cerfs.skyrock.com/photo.html?id_article=2350652911&id_article_media=-1

The article on the Spanish ibex is illustrated by a young individual that does indeed look like mine. Thanks for your explanations—my fallow deer has small antlers. As for the eyes... I didn’t get a close look ;) The issue is that the deer were behind the ones I photographed, which might explain the confusion. I’ve seen and photographed dozens of Spanish ibex over thirty years in the Cazorla sierras, so I’d recognize one anywhere by its impressive, slightly twisted horns. (Photo from Grazalema this summer)

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TR Trostang Globetrotter ·
I’ve been following your discussion with interest, but I wouldn’t be able to pick a side for you.
HA Hannahannah Globetrotter ·
I could totally be wrong, Daniel, but seeing those little creatures at dusk is something I really enjoy in Andalusia. If a third person wants to settle this for us, I’d be happy—even if I’m the one who’s wrong.
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RO Romulus41 Regular ·
Well, you're mistaken lol I thought you'd admitted they were goats because they are—trust me.
Cordialement, Romuald

“Un proverbe chinois dit que lorsqu'on n'a plus rien à dire, on cite généralement un proverbe chinois.”
HA Hannahannah Globetrotter ·
OK, if you say so 😉 Next time I’ll ask them for their IDs 😎
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JE Jeeaan Globetrotter ·
Sorry, but I don’t know anything about it either!
TR Trostang Globetrotter ·
Same here! 😊
JE Jeeaan Globetrotter ·
Oh yeah, I’m totally clueless in this area. And I thought I could trust Hannah... Well, no way! Not even close!
RO Romulus41 Regular ·
Hello,

I finally got confirmation from an expert. They’re not goats but ibexes. The photo shows a female with a young one.

Spanish ibex – (Capra pyrenaica) https://www.manimalworld.net/pages/bovidae/bouquetin-d-espagne.html
Cordialement, Romuald

“Un proverbe chinois dit que lorsqu'on n'a plus rien à dire, on cite généralement un proverbe chinois.”
CZ Czamam Veteran ·
Hello,

It’s a young Iberian ibex or *Capra pyrenaica*. Thanks, Google!

Oops, I didn’t see the previous post 🤪
HA Hannahannah Globetrotter ·
Yay! ... In France, it's called a bouquetin, in Spain, it's commonly known as a Spanish ibex, part of the goat family. I widened my eyes—pupils in diagonals. . . Compared to the fallow deer, the confusion came from the fact that there were two beautiful stags nearby, too far for my lens. In this area, there are fallow deer (introduced by hunters at the beginning of the 20th century), mouflons, deer, and lynxes that were successfully reintroduced a few years ago. I’ve never seen those clever felines, of course—they keep a low profile. Signs indicate their presence.

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HA Hannahannah Globetrotter ·
You gotta read this—when it's big, it's impressive. My first encounter was during a bivouac; I was cooking when I heard a noise, and behind me was an ibex watching me. Those horns were something else! 😉 Back to Morocco and its critters—I saw a Cuvier’s gazelle twice (no photos: the first time I almost put it on the hood of my car, and the second time it was too fast). Hey there, gazelle!
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HA Hannahannah Globetrotter ·
Hi Léa,

Sorry for derailing your awesome travel journal with that ibex story—I hope you’re not too mad at me! It’s the tale of a greeting card that turned into a heated debate over species identification... 😎😎😎
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RO Romulus41 Regular ·
Oh yeah, you're right—we kinda hijacked the thread 😐

So sorry, Léa 😄
Cordialement, Romuald

“Un proverbe chinois dit que lorsqu'on n'a plus rien à dire, on cite généralement un proverbe chinois.”
CZ Czamam Veteran ·
Re oops sorry Léa 🤪.
TR Trostang Globetrotter ·
And when everyone bounces off the previous message... It goes fast... Sorry Léa...
JE Jeeaan Globetrotter ·
Great job! It's clear, concise, and precise!
TR Trostang Globetrotter ·
Everyone has their own thing and their own interests. But it's nice to share...
Léa83 Regular ·
You gotta read this—when it’s big, it’s impressive. My first encounter was during a bivouac; I was cooking when I heard a noise, and behind me was this ibex watching me. Those horns were something else 😉 Back to Morocco and the critters—I saw a Cuvier’s gazelle twice (no photos: the first time I almost put it on the hood, and the second time it was too fast). Hey there, gazelle!

Glad it’s for a good cause. 🙂🙂🙂
Léa
JE Jeeaan Globetrotter ·
Thanks for your understanding.
HA Hannahannah Globetrotter ·
Thanks for sharing, Léa.
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MI Milo53 Regular ·
That's the risk when you're passionate... But we're only imperfect beings... It's not that bad! And besides, recognizing your little mistakes is already a beautiful thing! Have a great weekend.
ZA Zazanatany ·
Oh wow, memories, memories! Fifty years ago, I was a volunteer in Morocco and traveled all over the country in Hassan II’s Land Rovers. Okay. So, a quick Arabic phonetics lesson: *gh* sounds like our French *r*; *r* is a rolled *r*, like Edith Piaf or a farmer from Saône-et-Loire; *kh* is a guttural *r* where you scrape your throat! I still die laughing when I hear journalists—just as pretentious as they are clueless—pronounce "Ayatollah *Quomeni*" or "Senator from Marseille *Samia Galli*." Thanks to Lea for bringing back the best years of my life
Léa83 Regular ·
That’s so lovely to hear! What a nice compliment—thank you! Happy I could help you relive some great moments.
Léa
TR Trostang Globetrotter ·
That’s what forums are all about!
AX Axelfl Regular ·
That’s so nice to hear! It’s a lovely compliment—thank you, and I’m glad I could help you relive some great moments.

That’s exactly how I feel... Reading your story brought back so many memories of my trip to Morocco. Maybe we could do it again in early March for new adventures in this amazing country that has so much to offer. Thanks for making us dream.
Léa83 Regular ·
That’s awesome, it really makes me happy. Have a great trip to Morocco! We’re thinking of going back too, but maybe not right away.
Léa
AX Axelfl Regular ·
Thanks, that’s so kind! And I think we’ll take a little inspiration from your itinerary.
TR Trostang Globetrotter ·
How long are you staying there?
AX Axelfl Regular ·
We were planning to go for 2 weeks. The same 2 weeks we thought we’d spend in Martinique. But dengue fever scared us off.

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