What are the criteria that make you choose one destination over another?
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KA Kate Globetrotter ·
Ugh, it’s way too broad! Spy? Oh, I know—sales rep! 😄
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VO Voyajou Globetrotter ·
Travel here, travel there, travel everywhere—woohoo! You quote me endlessly in messages meant for others. And *you’re* the one talking about having "the audacity of direct confrontation"? Everyone here’s known for ages that you’re incapable of a coherent exchange. Avoidance is your MO. You remind me of a first-gen AI, back before it became generative.

I love good metaphors—I even get paid for them sometimes.

You could share that talent with us—money isn’t everything in life. Though "a little paid" and "sometimes" doesn’t exactly scream recognition.

@Attila, since the topic’s serious: In Latourex terms, I’d be "Free tourism."
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
In the Latourex nomenclature, I’d be ‘Free tourism.’

That doesn’t really answer the question...😛

Which wasn’t *how* do you travel?

But what criteria make you choose one destination over another?

Unless even the destination is improvised and chosen on a whim?

So why Australia, the United States, Southern Africa? Why not?
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Aviation instructor?
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KO Kola Globetrotter ·
we’re partly getting off-topic...

Beyond the criteria already mentioned—price, climate, change of scenery, landscapes, sparse or dense population, cultural, photographic, or musical interest, relaxation—couldn’t others be added without risking straying too far from the topic, even if they lighten the tone a bit?

Other criteria that might narrow the range of possibilities but wouldn’t be out of place in these uncertain times:

Looking at the color photo *and* its negative?

doesn’t throw administrative hurdles in my way or put me in danger.

On top of the obvious restrictions you’ve mentioned... what about intangible considerations: conscience, beliefs, others—do they have the right to rule out a destination, temporarily or not?

Isn’t feeling like a citizen of the world about using the only power we have as privileged travelers—to go *or* choose not to go to certain places, even if they’re safe for us?

Doesn’t current events give us plenty of examples?
LI LillieoneFE Veteran ·
" ce ne peut être que la fin du monde en avançant " A.Rimbaud
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
The "in part" included geopolitical criteria that can influence the choice of a destination.

What matters in the title is the "you."

I’d like to hear everyone’s personal feelings, not just generalities—no matter how praiseworthy they may be.

So, an answer with an "I."

I get the impression you’re leaning toward a boycott based on your own ethical criteria, but I’m not entirely sure since that "I" wasn’t used.
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
I don’t include music in my personal list of criteria.

I’ll even admit I often prefer silence. 😊
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Hello,

"Oh yes, absolutely! For my part, some destinations are completely off my list when it comes to 'carefree travel plans'! The sound of cannons is ugly! Apartheid too 😕 Unless you're an activist, committed to defending a specific cause—in which case, there’s no room for carefreeness, of course! ... Let’s go!"

I’m not convinced that European travelers—especially French ones—will really be in a position to be picky in the coming years. So... We’re practically at war with Azerbaijan, Russia, Belarus, a good chunk of the BRICS (who’ve sided with Russia), which means the U.S. too, and thus against Europe. Algeria, all of sub-Saharan Africa, persona non grata in much of West Africa, not welcome in Iran, and soon to be blacklisted in the U.S.... When do we start asking ourselves questions about the universalism that drives us? Do you really think adding Argentina to the list because its president is liberal, India because it’s nationalist, China because it’s authoritarian and imperialist, or Saudi Arabia because women are veiled, is relevant? "Citizen of the world" is more of a slogan than a concept, and it seems to have become a bit counterproductive.

Michel
KO Kola Globetrotter ·
So an answer with an "I".

Well... Maybe we could create a questionnaire with specific items that users could check directly on the site (a new feature to suggest)... to keep a given topic from the inevitable digressions that could broaden the discussion once the whole class has taken the floor to list all the components of I, me. 🙂
LI LillieoneFE Veteran ·
" ce ne peut être que la fin du monde en avançant " A.Rimbaud
LI LillieoneFE Veteran ·
" ce ne peut être que la fin du monde en avançant " A.Rimbaud
KA Kate Globetrotter ·
To answer your question directly—since my main criteria have already been mentioned—I’d say a well-crafted travel journal could sway me. It’s already influenced me before! :)
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
'Saudi Arabia because women are veiled there'

It’s over...

Well, it’s not exactly a joy for either men or women.

Personally, this lack of freedom in clothing, food, and freedom in general will make me choose another destination.

I can visit theocracies, but not ones that are this extreme.
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
The "I" allows us to open up...

I get the feeling that some travelers here prefer to stay hidden.

No problem with that, but then why comment on a thread that’s clearly focused on personal experiences?

I feel like it’s a bit like taking without ever giving.
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Well, it’s not exactly a joy for either men or women.

Hmm... That’s your take. Shouldn’t we stop trying to impose our norms and customs like this? Didn’t Lévi-Strauss, the anthropologist, warn us about the psychological reaction that comes from encountering very different practices? A mutual rejection reaction, at that.

Michel
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
that the first question asked by Attila was multiple-choice style

Not at all.

The most important part was the

What else do I know...

that you left out.

I often operate this way on "personal" topics that I start. Always examples first to help get the ball rolling! 😉

There’s no right or wrong answer.

And everyone can dig deeper, ask for details, add something, what else do I know... If they’ve played along by answering in the first place...

After all, I’m neither a cop nor a moderator nor...

Maybe just the facilitator of my own topic, and that’s no small task on VF!

(There was a time when talking about yourself wasn’t a dirty word: here, for example)
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DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
Feeling like a citizen of the world—isn’t that about using the only power we have as travelers with comfortable means... to go or not to go to certain places, even if they’re safe for us?

Doesn’t current events provide plenty of examples?

You mean safe countries we’d choose not to visit to feel more like citizens of the world? Is that what you’re saying? Which countries are you thinking of? Israel? China? The United States? Russia? If we consider it a safe country...
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
a well-crafted travel journal could influence me.

The text more than the photos, then? Or both?

I always wonder if people have been influenced enough by our travel journals to take the plunge right away.
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Bah... That's you saying that.

Well, yeah.

The I! 😛

But I think there are quite a few of us "I"s in this case...

Shouldn't we stop trying to impose our norms and customs like this?

Is freedom a purely French norm and custom?

(I don’t know why I’m asking this question—I can feel the discussion taking a turn again… 😏)
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
But I think there are several of us in this case...

No doubt, but against science, against anthropology, against sociology. I’ve known you to be more scientifically minded.

Is freedom a norm and a purely French concept?

Freedom? The least one can say is that it’s only a French value by misunderstanding. It’s collective, abstract freedom. When it comes to freedom, in Europe, France is pretty much at the bottom of the class. You’re sending me down a path that some won’t be able to follow; I can explain all this, but it’s really no longer the topic of discussion—it’s going to upset the purists.

Michel
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
Is freedom a norm and a purely French custom?

It’s possible that most people in this country feel free. After all, we don’t know much about how they truly feel unless we sense a spirit of revolt, like in Iran, for example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
MA Mathews Globetrotter ·
When it comes to freedom, in Europe, France is pretty much at the bottom of the class.

It’s clear that in Viktor Orbán’s pro-Soviet Hungary, the term *freedom* really takes on its full meaning...

You’re sending me down a path some won’t be able to follow; I can explain all that,

hmm, I see where you’re going with this. You’re about to trot out that old chestnut about how one person’s freedom ends where another’s begins?
MA Mathews Globetrotter ·
Freedom is a standard and a purely French custom? (I don’t know why I’m asking this question—I feel like this discussion is going to take a turn again... 😏)

Everyone knows full well that France is a highly centralized country politically, economically, and socially. In short, most decisions are made in Paris. So in a way, that explains it. And it’s a country, a nation that has always struggled to find unity, in my opinion. Some people on the forum—you know who you are—criticize France while still living here. 😉 So if you don’t like a country, shouldn’t you go somewhere else? Might as well move to Pattaya, put your feet up, and have a bowl of rice—that’s enough to live on.
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Hello,

It’s certain that in Viktor Orbán’s pro-Soviet Hungary, the term freedom takes on its full meaning...

Can you seriously name one single point that shows less freedom in Hungary than in France? What could possibly convince a traveler to avoid the country due to freedom restrictions? Do you see a difference compared to France in recent years when it comes to freedom of expression, bodily autonomy, freedom of movement, or entrepreneurship? I don’t. But have you been there often? Hungary isn’t liberal in its state principles, and for that reason, I prefer the Czech Republic, for example. But not to the point of avoiding Hungary altogether—especially since, in terms of cuisine and atmosphere, it’s really much better.

Are you going to trot out that old cliché about how one person’s freedom ends where another’s begins?

What I mean is that in France, we have a very intellectual and abstract conception of freedom—one that projects it onto ideals without putting it into practice. I prefer the Anglo-Saxon approach: pragmatic, individualistic, and with less state intervention.

And it’s a country, a nation that, in my opinion, has always struggled to find unity.

Absolutely. It’s a state—centralized and fairly authoritarian—that intellectually conceives itself as a nation through adherence to universalist principles. This largely explains its current precarious position in the world, which isn’t without consequences (and, in my view, this is just the beginning) for travelers. Proudly brandishing the power of a passport is pretty misleading if, in reality, you can’t actually use it.

The cliché you mentioned is nonsense for little kids.

Besides, do you think travelers from other countries really ask themselves whether they’ll avoid a country based on grand principles and good intentions? I don’t get that impression—at least, I haven’t heard much feedback along those lines.

Michel
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
(I don’t know why I’m asking this question, I have a feeling the discussion is going to go off the rails again...Smartypants)

If only I had that kind of luck with lottery numbers...
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DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
I never play the lottery, but don’t worry—we’ll try to refocus your topic. It often goes like this: we stray off course and then come back... only to stray again. Whether you reply to my messages or not doesn’t really matter to me

After reading your "motivation questionnaire" about choosing a destination, a question immediately came to mind: On this forum, especially since its revival, it seems most active members have gotten considerably older... Those who haven’t returned are mostly younger, and now the over-50s are in the majority. Sure, a significant percentage doesn’t display their age in their profile (wonder why?), but you can still get a sense of it. (Their age ) We’re more or less dinosaurs here (me for sure!)... Over the years, our way of thinking, approaching the world, and therefore our way of traveling changes... or at least it should (more or less quickly). That applies to everyone, I think? The world doesn’t look the same at 20 as it does at 73. Besides, the more you’ve traveled, the more limited your choices (of countries) become—since you’re only considering countries, not potential regions within the same country... I don’t really like the Paris region or the north of France, but I’d happily go back to Corsica or the Basque Country... So rather than going to Saudi Arabia or Qatar, which I’ll probably never visit, I’d prefer to return to other regions of Colombia or Romania.

I’ll try to answer your questions with this new perspective.

Price

If you’re talking about flight tickets, no—the price doesn’t matter to me since I travel economy and can afford any destination... and do so several times a year. But if someone offers me a free flight to Antarctica, I’m not going—I’m not interested in penguins, and besides, no one lives there (no humans). I also don’t want to go back to China, especially not these days!

When it comes to accommodation prices, yes—comfort, though slightly more important with age, isn’t a big factor for me. I sleep well anywhere, I’m not really bothered by noise, and since I only spend the night there, the accommodation doesn’t matter much. My luxury? A hearty breakfast (my most important meal of the day). And for that, long live Eastern European countries! (Romania, Bulgaria, etc.) and the human connections with hosts or property owners. I love talking and chatting with them. I don’t like the concrete of big hotels; I prefer modest guesthouses, "bed and breakfast"-style lodgings that blend into semi-urban, rural, or mountain landscapes. Bamboo and palm-thatched huts by the sea (no corrugated iron roofs!)—those are almost impossible to find now. Mountain refuges (not Mont Blanc!). And all of that with a good quality-to-price ratio, when possible. After all, everyone sets their own bar for comfort, luxury, etc.

A magazine article, TV report, travel journal, or Instagram ad?

That’s never been a factor for me, and it never will be—what draws me to travel is always a certain need for discovery, a taste for the unknown. So, as much as possible, I try not to copy other people’s trips. I’ll see a few "must-sees" when the opportunity arises—not all of them. But I don’t refuse a nice accommodation tip if it fits what I’m looking for...

Ease of travel

It wasn’t before, but it’s become more of a concern... especially the fear of kidnappings, assaults, abductions, or murders. I was particularly affected by the cowardly murder of a guide from Nice in Algeria (for example). I’m also increasingly wary of problems with authorities in certain countries (what happened to some French travelers in Iran makes me think twice). The issues I had in China—arrest, police station, fines—also stick with me.

Minimal time difference?

I’m becoming more sensitive to that too, which makes me hesitate to go to Australia or New Zealand. Actually, it’s not the time difference that bothers me but the flight duration... I’m close to considering business class.

The country with the most commonalities for all trip participants?

Not really, no.

Activities?

Yes, a little, though it’s not a must. I need mountains, wild places, and—since I love trekking and hiking—what I call "spaces of freedom" where you don’t need a ticket to enjoy NATURE. That’s why I’ve grown to love Eastern European countries like Bulgaria, Albania, and Romania in recent years: their "national parks" are hard to access by vehicle, with no facilities, no required permits, no fences, no restrictions... It’s free and open to those who earn it... The sea for snorkeling or diving (which I barely do anymore)... Unfortunately, there are no healthy coral reefs left on the planet; everything’s destroyed or nearly so. When you’ve seen the difference over time, it’s just a fact (I’m not exaggerating). I regret discovering the sea late—I mean, the sea as a sailor, navigator, on my own boat—because those are the people I admire and respect the most. For me, the sea (along with high mountains) remains one of the last spaces of freedom... But lack of opportunity? Courage? Not really a sea leg? A bit of all that made me realize I missed out on something important. I was a private pilot, but flying was never a space of freedom for me—too many constraints! I gave up the controls pretty quickly...

Relaxation?

Yes, from time to time—to let my thoughts wander, enjoy my surroundings, admire, and feel... I prefer that to the hustle, the "activity" binge like swimming with dolphins, or trying to do/see everything at the risk of drowning in crowds.

The desire to push yourself?

Not really. The pleasure of discovery, yes... sometimes that might have led me to push myself, but the goal was always different. I used to seek challenge in competitive sports, which brought me a lot of joy, but travel, for me, is something else entirely. Nothing to do with sports or self-improvement.

A photo?

Since I got a phone, I take a few pictures... For years, I didn’t take any photos, preferring to keep my memories inside. Every time I came back from a trip, the first question was: "Did you take any photos?"

To complete the picture.

What I’ve only done once and will never do again: following a set itinerary, fully planned in advance with daily stages and pre-booked accommodations (not all, thankfully!). No way to go off track, change my mind, stay longer than planned, or leave a place I don’t like... what a nightmare! The anti-travel!

The only time I relapsed and booked accommodation was in Albania. The reason? My wife and I had planned a day-long trekking trip, and given the possible fatigue and likely lack of lodging at the end, we booked a guesthouse. Bad luck—on the day of departure, violent storms forced us to abandon our hike. Normally, the room cost would’ve been charged, but after explaining the situation to the host, he didn’t take a cent. Hats off to the Albanian! My travel flaws: - I hate private property (I mean when it spans hundreds of hectares or more with no right of way)... I trespass out of mischief... - I love sneaking in—not for financial reasons, but for the thrill of pulling it off 😉 Example: To get to Machu Picchu, I cut through the forest with no guarantee of success and ended up in the middle of the site... In Nepal, I went trekking without a permit several times just for the fun of dodging checkpoints. I love finding the little alley that lets me skip the toll at Bhaktapur or Kathmandu’s Durbar Square. When there’s a monument to visit, I sometimes enter through the exit... I know, it’s not good, don’t do it...
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DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
To add to that:

So far, I’ve avoided countries with cold, wet climates (oceanic climate). The cold doesn’t bother me, but rain, drizzle, and fog—I really don’t like them. And since I’m often on foot when traveling, having to wear a raincoat is a hassle. So, no (or at least not yet) Norway, Iceland, Scotland, etc... Plus, I imagine (probably wrongly) that the people in these countries aren’t very outgoing. Restaurants, bars, and shops must close early in the evening, and that would bother me...
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VO Voyajou Globetrotter ·
Can you seriously give me one single point that shows less freedom in Hungary than in France?

Just one? Seriously? Too easy, mate. Let’s say freedom of the press (RSF 2023 World Press Freedom Index): France: 24th place (1) Hungary: 72nd place

But hey, RSF is just a bunch of activists (who knows, maybe they even use inclusive writing).

(1) Not too shabby for a country you recently wrote about "in France, the press is the State"
VO Voyajou Globetrotter ·
Hey Mathews, 🙂

It’s clear that in Viktor Orbán’s pro-Soviet Hungary, the term freedom takes on its full meaning...

Never forget that the freedom we envision is based on a misunderstanding. It’s a collective, abstract kind of freedom.
MA Mathews Globetrotter ·
Hey Voyajou, I agree 🙂 But freedom isn’t just abstract—it’s also the ability to go wherever you want, in short, to travel, right...?
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
I wonder if, if I had started a thread about your favorite foodie destination, there would have been a reply like this:

But freedom isn’t just abstract—it’s also the ability to go wherever you want, in short, to travel

I’ll give it a shot soon...😛
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Hi Agnès, Mathews, Jean Luc,

All that energy spent criticizing ends up reinforcing the analysis. The topic is indeed—I’m not off-topic at all—about whether we can choose or avoid a destination based—among other things—on the moral judgments we hold about the laws a nation adopts. I think it was Kola who brought up this idea. If you believe that’s possible, I can see how taking a reflective look at what constitutes your own national framework might be tricky. Maybe even impossible. No big deal.

Michel
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
if we can choose

No.

The subject is me.

Mathews, Voyajou, and Kola share generalities. Do they choose their destinations based on moral judgments? I don’t know.

Lillieone, yes. She answered in that vein. Actually, in a second step, as if this criterion was so obvious she hadn’t mentioned it first or as if it wasn’t essential?

I answered too. And I didn’t include it in my list of examples or really in my reply because I know how it ends here when these issues come up... They take over everything else, and the thread turns into a eloquence contest, a battle for the under-40 crowd. Those who just want to participate in the original topic flee, and all that’s left are the debaters who can fill pages without ever getting tired. I used to take part in those. It’s fun, stimulating, but over time, it’s mostly become redundant.

You answered the generalities. I think this criterion isn’t on your list when you choose, but you didn’t clearly say so.
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
I answered too. And I didn’t include it in my list of examples or really in my answer because I know how it ends up here when these issues come up... They take over everything else and the topic turns into a debate contest, a battle for the under-40 crowd.

Ah, I see. So it’s a survey or an inventory, then. We should think about using a Forms tool.

Michel
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
No, this is a discussion between travelers.🙂

(And not a peanut-flipping contest. You didn’t answer my question...)
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
You didn’t answer my question...😇)

What question?

Michel
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
. I think this criterion isn't on your list when making your choice, but you didn’t clearly state it.

There you go.

That’s what I call a question.

A clarification if you want.
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
I think this criterion isn’t on your list when making a choice, but you didn’t clearly state it.

The answer is no, then. Thirty years ago, I might’ve had that kind of principle, but I’ve managed to move past it.

Michel
PO Pondy Veteran ·
Hello,

Over time, my choice of travel has become very simple as I’ve grown older. A country of moors, deserts, silence—if it rains, if there’s mist, that’s perfect. A place where time seems to slow down and people take the time to chat. Preferably seasons of frost, January, February, March on our continent, for the endless pleasure of snuggling into the chosen dwelling. And above all, no more 15-day or three-week marathons. And especially, no more piling up new countries. Explore one country—or even just one region—again and again. I probably haven’t listed all the criteria, but that’s not really a big deal. 😉
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
You put it more poetically than others, but you did it. 😉

I can totally picture you in Scotland during the off-season, and not at all in the heart of Calcutta in May! !
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PE Perju Globetrotter ·
Well, for me it's really simple—all my vehicles are Crit'Air 5, so I stay home..😕
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Pinocchio ....

(And adapting wordplay like lighting new fires...)

(You still have points on your license, right?)

I haven’t had to choose one destination over another based on this criterion yet, but I’ll admit I’ve steered clear of certain European cities because of it after the fact.

The Crit’Air sticker has a different version in each country, and I still want to see the road through my windshield... Plus, I don’t feel like spending my time hunting down Form 672b just to get the Crit’Air+++ pass!

Here comes the age of ecological criteria... A twist on ethical criteria...
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
By the way, I have a solution to your problem.

You rent an electric tow truck. You load your old car onto it and drive to Le Havre. (Plan for several days, but you’ve got time.)

You load your 4x4 into a container and pay for its crossing to the land of Uncle Sam.

You bike back home. You call an eco-friendly taxi++ to take you to Lyon.

A long flight with a layover will let you reunite with your favorite vehicle! 😛

The great outdoors awaits!

(Unless your conscience has told you to boycott that destination since a redhead tanning-salon enthusiast took over the nation? )
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PE Perju Globetrotter ·
No no, I have no sense of adventure, but the land of the redhead and his 😇 unhinged friends has never appealed to me. Plus, being super eco-conscious, I don’t fly, and my car refuses containers—claustrophobia, you know...😏 On the other hand, like Tatra, I’m pretty tempted by a visit to central Ukraine... not exactly touristy, just to say a quick hello to some "friendly" police officers and make sure they’re having a good time...😄
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
With all that, I’m not really sure what your criteria are for choosing a destination... 😇

I think I get that it’s a destination you can drive to from home.

I would’ve bet on Mongolia or Morocco, but it’s just a hunch—I don’t know why those over Monaco or Liechtenstein... 😛
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UN UnaMilanese Veteran ·
Hi,

Better late than never (I was away), here’s my reply:

More about voyeurism and the thrill of the ultimate rush than actual travel.

which follows my Afghan temptation.

Voyeurism?

But isn’t everything that pulls us away from the frenetic, self-absorbed consumerism at the heart of our civilization a form of that? Why is it more voyeuristic to walk through a theocracy than among African tribes or in India with its caste system, or...?

Afghanistan is the depth of history in Herat, the books of Atiq Rahimi, breathtaking landscapes, Massoud (so much more than Brad Pitt’s character)... And then, I don’t really know. I remember the image I had of Lebanon in the late '80s—a country ravaged by war, destroyed—and my conversations in Urbino with a student who lived there, went to the beach, went out. I’ve been wary ever since of what we’re shown.

When Iran or Afghanistan are no longer dangerous for my safety (and the threat is more external than internal), I’ll go.

Catherine
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KO Kola Globetrotter ·
Afghanistan is

For me, it’s this: A few days in Bamiyan
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Hi there,

Why is it more voyeuristic to walk around in a theocracy than in the middle of African tribes or in India with its castes, or...?

It’s just as voyeuristic.

But in the case of Afghanistan, it’s significantly more dangerous.

And then, we come back to the moral criteria that have been discussed at length in this thread.

I don’t want to give money to oppressors or endorse Sharia law.

Afghanistan doesn’t check any of my boxes except for vast landscapes: theocracy+++, no freedom, safety ---, denial of women’s rights, no possibility of driving, etc.

It’d be the last country I’d think of. I’d rather find myself in the middle of a massive rave in Ibiza than set foot in Kabul, that’s saying something.
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
It’s also about this:

https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/asia-and-the-pacific/south-asia/afghanistan/report-afghanistan/
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