Thailand Travel Journal: From Chiang Mai to Bangkok, We Didn’t Buddha Our Fun
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Translated into English.

JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Hello,

Thanks for joining in, though part of what you said went a bit over my head. I couldn’t even find the "Culture for Dummies" section. Sorry to put you through (?) this spiritual journey, but just so you know, "Buddha" is in the title of the travel journal—just in case you zoomed past on your motorbike… 😉 If only to guilt-trip the poor singles heading to Pattaya’s beach resorts, you deserve this penance! Take a look at the USA travel journals, and you’ll be dizzy from thousands of photos of red rocks, trucks, and hamburgers. Or check out the Africa journals, and you’ll come back here in tears after the thirtieth lioness and the twenty-seventh giraffe! As I mentioned before, we try to show a little of what we see all the time and as much as possible of what we see less—or not at all. And just to be clear: this story shows this because that’s what we saw! Not to mention the southern Issan saying: "She who doesn’t understand humor will search for it a long time yet"… yeah, I know, it’s an easy joke, but it’s still humor. 😛

Anyway, it’s not nice to tease Obeopai. I also raised an eyebrow at the phrase "compassionate charity of liturgy." It reminds me of when I’m researching a trip, stumble on a Thai website, and translate it with Google—the result is words that all make sense individually but together form a real mess. So, Mr. Obeo, be careful with copy-paste…

For my part, at least on VF this time, I’m producing original work. The sentences, photos, and videos are all ours. With their strengths and flaws. I’m the first to want to see other travel journals, but right now, the people who could prove their skills are on strike, sick, or stuck in poste restante…
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Once there, they told me the name, but I didn’t write it down—here’s the result! But you’ll notice we’re filling in the gaps little by little. You know, we’re not on some forced cultural march here. Still, our minds process all this like quirky curiosities. We didn’t spend all this time shedding our local religious quirks just to soak up those from the depths of Asia at our age. That said, like SuisseChris and you, we’re regularly amazed. And we love showing that in pictures, too.
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
SU SuisseChris Veteran ·
I have nothing against hermits.

It's just that getting roasted... I mean, pretending to get roasted, is just too much for my taste. That said, this is just my opinion and it’s not worth more than that. 😉

Good night everyone
L'éternité c'est très long....surtout vers la fin (Woody Allen)
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Hello,

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« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
SU SuisseChris Veteran ·
😄 😄 😄
L'éternité c'est très long....surtout vers la fin (Woody Allen)
BA Barefoot Veteran ·
Good evening,

The dragon itself houses a museum made up of about twenty rooms. Open from Wednesday to Sunday. We didn’t have time to see

Too bad, because the "Museum of the Dragon’s Descendants," as they call it, features a sound and light show on the history of Chinese civilization over 5,000 years. It starts with the Chinese view of the creation of the world, up to the origins of the Sino-Thai people and how they integrated into the Siamese population. The little story goes that this museum was founded by a former Thai minister of Chinese origin from Suphanburi, who left with just 15 baht in his pocket and promised to give back in kind if he succeeded. He apparently kept his word. Like the Erawan Museum in Bangkok, symbolized by a three-headed elephant, the Dragon represents the symbolic animal of China. Just my little cultural addition.

I’ll point out that there’s "Buddha" in the title of your travel journal, in case you zoomed past on your bike too quickly...😉

I wanted to wait until the end of your story to comment, but maybe you’ll take offense if you don’t get a response. Oh well. On two wheels, I never ride too fast, and I always stop at places that catch my interest. Plus, Buddha preaches tolerance for everyone’s opinions. I recognize the writing effort you put into this, but you’ll have to forgive me if I’m not as enthusiastic as your groupies or if I yawn sometimes while reading. After all, you can’t please everyone, right? I also admit I’ve rarely visited so many temples in a row during my trips. Compared to you, I’m a small player. But I regret the lack of depth and soul—and curiosity. I’m not a longtime member, but I’ve stopped counting how many times I’ve traveled to Thailand or how many travel journals I’ve read. Some have really excited me, taught me things, touched me, made me laugh, or inspired me to go. Yours seemed highly anticipated by the community, but I confess I wasn’t a regular reader, for lack of time and interest. In the same places, we probably wouldn’t see the same things.

We try to show a bit of what we see all the time and as much as possible what we see less or not at all. And careful: this story shows this because that’s what we saw! [...] I produce original work

I get that you don’t take negative comments well—I understand, it can feel like it’s polluting your work. But publishing a story means putting it out there for others, including those who don’t see the trip the same way you do. That’s the game; it’s up to you to be fair and keep your ego in check. As for those who, like me, don’t share their "vacations," it’s because they don’t need to and don’t claim to be the modern-day Stevensons, Londons, Millers, or Capas, Doisneaus, or McCurrys. Those who know me and whom I appreciate know where I am and what I see, and that’s all that matters to me. Everyone has their own universe. Proof of skill isn’t measured by the number of posts or lines on a forum—it’s in the field and the happy memories we keep.

With that, your readers are waiting for the next part of your adventures.
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
I won’t revisit the parts of your comments that are far from the truth—there are too many, and it’d be a waste of time.

There are those who try to build something, and those who criticize them. It’s so easy for the critics; there’s always something to find, exaggerate, or invent.

The few who dare to distort a travel journal reveal their true nature. To achieve their goals, they forget that they’re also mocking many readers who haven’t done anything wrong. Usually, bitterness and jealousy lie behind this. It’s almost proof we’re on the right path.

When this story was published, our vacation had been over for a month, and despite their efforts, the troublemakers can’t take that away from us. Every page we publish is another delight on this topic—a little dig at them. Years later, when we revisit these pages to reminisce, we automatically skip over those insignificant details. A troll here, a hater there—meh... There are plenty of good people who show us kindness.

I sincerely hope this topic is closed.
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
HI Hiboujoli Regular ·
As for those who, like me, don’t share their "vacations," it’s because they don’t need to and don’t claim to be the modern-day Stevensons, Londons, Millers, or Capas, Doisneaus, or McCurrys.

I’ll take this opportunity to add a Frenchman, a true Indochina adventurer and master storyteller through his *Nuits Indochinoises*: Monsieur Jean Hougron.

And a special mention for another Jean, Monsieur Lartéguy
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Hi Michel,

Thinking about it, the people who say that still came back 25 times to read or look at the story—or even both. You have to wonder why they put themselves through it if they don’t like it. I can only assume they actually enjoy it 😉 As for kitsch, I think there’s unpleasant kitsch and pleasant kitsch. I try to do my best by preselecting. In the end, given this year’s reactions, it’s even more motivation for us. Of course, we’ll keep publishing our travel journals...
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Fifth day of intense heat. We took it easy and wandered around a bit in the morning.

A few kilometers to the east lies the small town of Nakhon Chaisi. Near the river, 1.5 km from the train station, a market nestles in a cluster of old houses, dating back at least 150 years. This is the Thana Old Market. You’ll find some local specialties there, like *sam-o* (a large sweet pomelo) or green papaya salad (the famous papaya that’s harvested with a pitchfork). The market is also open on weekdays. Here and there, you’ll spot some quirky details—like Japanese superheroes on a rooftop, Mao statues, or replicas of the Eiffel Tower...







Near this town is an attraction called Woodland, set up by a Thai family. It’s both a museum and a hotel. As the name suggests, the museum is entirely dedicated to wood. It showcases the craftsmanship from much of Asia. Our plan was to mix up our visits by admiring some stunning creations. We knew there’d be an entrance fee, but we were shocked when they asked for 700 baht per person.

Used to prices that sometimes feel too low, we realized this time we were being charged the equivalent of a night in a city hotel. We almost didn’t agree among ourselves, but after a quick discussion, we concluded it was too expensive for this kind of attraction. It might be debatable, but for us, it was a matter of principle. We decided not to go in.

Despite some traffic jams caused by an accident, we wanted to stop by Wat Samphran, even though its dragon keeps a close watch. We didn’t explore much since it was really a "low-energy" day. The nuns there were very kind—they even offered us coffee with good cheer.







The highlight of the day was the Sanamchan Bangkok Hospital. It’s another side of Thailand—one we’d overlooked on previous trips—that really stood out. We weren’t expecting how smoothly things would go. As soon as we stepped up to the reception desk, a woman came over to help, translating what the staff member was asking to fill out the intake form. We sat for three minutes before an employee led us upstairs. After another three-minute wait, a nurse took Joel into a small room to weigh him, check his blood pressure, ask his height, and find out what brought him in. Five minutes later, we were with the doctor. He didn’t seem alarmed and, after seeing the ointment we’d bought at the pharmacy, said it wasn’t suitable and prescribed an antihistamine plus another medication (the doctor’s accent made it hard to catch the name). And just like that—next patient! We went back downstairs, waited another three minutes, and at the last counter, Joel was asked if he was allergic to any medications. At the same time, we were given two blister packs of pills and an 890 baht bill—400 baht of that was for the tablets. The whole thing took half an hour, tops, and the service was so good we were thrilled.

Françoise was relieved—her man was saved, with no necrosis or infection, and soon it wouldn’t itch or bother him at all.

We found a great little eatery near the hotel. You can point to the meats and veggies you want, and the small dish for 40 baht is delicious. A few meters away, there’s a small square where evening stalls pop up. We easily found fried chicken thighs and wings, which we took full advantage of during this trip. Across the street, a shop makes excellent iced cappuccinos to enjoy with sweet roasted peanuts. A quiet moment watching life go by.
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
SU SuisseChris Veteran ·
a charming market, without a doubt.

Like you, I wouldn’t have approved of an entrance fee like the one you were offered. Maybe it was worth the price... I doubt it (a lot, even).

Thai hospitals really do have a great reputation on this forum. Your story won’t disprove how well-deserved that reputation is.

Have a lovely evening.
L'éternité c'est très long....surtout vers la fin (Woody Allen)
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Hi,

It must be worth seeing, but the little family that founded the business seems to really want to cash in. Maybe we’d be more tempted to spend the money on another kind of temptation, as you’ll see in a few days. But darn it, for once it wasn’t a temple!! I’m not in a hurry to see another hospital in a country where traveling is high-risk and where vipers have heads as big as my fist...
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
We returned to Ayutthaya this year, using it solely as our base camp.

We hired little Aoy again as our driver since we appreciated her skills two years ago.

The first day took us on the road from Ayutthaya to Ang Thong. It’s the kind of area most people wouldn’t think to explore, right? Our determination to uncover hidden gems sometimes leads us down side roads with little notable interest. Yet, so close to a former capital, it made sense there’d be something worth seeing.

That’s how we ended up at Wat Pa Mok, about 18 km north of Ayutthaya. This second-class royal temple houses a 22.58-meter reclining Buddha (accounting for seasonal variations?). It’s said that King Naruesan used to come here to pray before heading off to battle the Burmese.

While admiring a few statues, we noticed an elder leading dozens of schoolchildren sitting cross-legged in front of the viharn. They recited or chanted something, then everyone stood up, holding small flowers, and circled the viharn several times while singing. Some walked on tiptoes in socks with holes at the toes and heels. Inside, the reclining Buddha is regal: eyes half-closed with an expression of bliss.







We were eventually drawn to some musical commotion, usually a sign of memorable moments. Sure enough, a procession was approaching, with parents and children. How to describe it... when you’re filming, you focus on your position, framing the shot, and smiling back. Later, weeks pass, and the memory fades a bit. One day, you watch the footage to detail your travel journal and end up nearly in tears of joy. That lively music, those little princes and princesses of Siam, the way people greet strangers with such genuine smiles! This kind of emotion is personal, and it’d be pointless to try to describe or explain it. It’s no surprise that just thinking about the unforgettable moments awaiting us can give us a fever before our flight from France.

A short distance away, Wat Tha Sutthawat showcases its very aesthetic chedi.





The temple dates back to the early Ayutthaya period but is regularly renovated since it’s sponsored by Princess Sirindhorn. In 2006, a pond with a pavilion in the middle was added. Only a few dogs guard the place, and we’ll have to return tomorrow since the gates are closed.

But that’s not the only highlight. All around, majestic trees mark the edge of a small forest, and it’s a great idea to follow the path into it. You don’t have to go far to reach Ban Bang Sadet. This village along the Chao Phraya suffered a major flood in the 1970s, which prompted a visit from the king, who provided aid. Such events leave a lasting impact. To generate additional income and honor the king by creating products reflecting daily life and Thai culture, the villagers formed an association. Their creations are clay products—dancers, children playing, musicians, fruit vendors on boats, the royal barge with rowers, and farmers with buffalo-drawn carts. The shop is a burst of color, and it’s delightful to watch a villager working live. These items are inexpensive here, though they’re sold for more elsewhere in the country.

No sooner had we left the area than we found ourselves at Wat Sa Kaeo, 15 km from Ayutthaya.



Our visit wasn’t culturally focused. For decades, this temple has welcomed orphans and underprivileged children from all over the country. Visitor donations are welcome, as caring for the children costs 1 million bahts per month. Our flexible schedule allowed for spontaneity, and we arrived just before lunchtime. Dozens of children and pre-teens flooded into a dining hall the size of a football field—there must’ve been nearly 2,000 of them. We’d barely started filming when the children, lined up with stainless steel trays, sang "Happy Birthday" to the son of one of the benefactors. It was the second unforgettable "Happy Birthday" of our trip.

The kids were served rice noodles from about fifteen large plastic pots. The girls gave a small bow to the women serving them, then headed to huge pots where staff scooped meat and vegetables in sauce to complete their plates.

After our own meal, we spent a memorable—and much longer than planned—afternoon at Wat Si Roi, about 12 km northwest of Ayutthaya. The name literally means "Temple of the Four Hundred." It refers to the 400 brave soldiers who died here in 1760 resisting the Burmese army.

The temple’s main attraction is a gigantic, stunning seated Buddha in the open air, gleaming like gold in the sun.



You’ll also find statues of the famous warriors and several sacred tree trunks decorated with flower garlands.

A dozen local musicians on site then gave us a taste of their talent. Gradually, the rhythm sped up, and we experienced one of those wild moments that make a trip so special. A man played a flute producing a sound like a bagpipe. It was incredible—the music never stopped, even though the performance wasn’t easy. The moment was hypnotic. Of course, they eventually got all the *farangs* (foreigners) involved, and we had the honor of joining the orchestra for a few minutes, playing cymbals, among other things.









We were rewarded for our day’s efforts with a meal at Saithong River Restaurant, a well-known spot in Ayutthaya with a riverside terrace.

« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
SU SuisseChris Veteran ·
Good evening,

How to put it... when you're filming, you focus on your position, on centering the shot, and on the smile you give in return. Later, weeks go by, and what remains is a more or less vivid memory. One fine day, you watch the videos to flesh out your travel journal, and you find yourself on the verge of tears of joy. That so-catchy music, those little princes and princesses of Siam, those people who reward a stranger with such a genuine smile! That kind of emotion is personal, and it’d be pointless to try to describe or explain it. It’s no surprise that when it’s time to board the plane from France, a feverish excitement takes hold of us at the mere thought of the unforgettable moments ahead.

Between the moments we live and those we relive while watching a video, emotional moments are never in short supply... I’ve traveled to other countries in Europe and the Americas, but for me, the emotion is stronger in Thailand. Could it be the smiles and warmth of the people? Or something else?

For decades, this temple has welcomed orphans and underprivileged children from all over the country. Visitors’ donations are welcome, as caring for the children costs one million baht per month.

Do you know who else helps fund this place, aside from visitor donations?

Still so many great photos to look at! 🙂
L'éternité c'est très long....surtout vers la fin (Woody Allen)
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Well, here’s a start to answering your first question.

I don’t know about others, but there are definitely half a dozen spots that totally win me over. Whenever I hit a winter blues slump, I rewatch this.

Sorry for the emotion, but I think I held it together pretty well...

https://youtu.be/Qe-7GPhH2Vs
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Ban Bang Sadet: made in Thailand

https://youtu.be/dovIN2qnY3w
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Wat Sa Kaeo

https://youtu.be/TEZpyIoYE8g
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
This one is one of my favorites.

youtu.be/ys7Rmh-YMHk
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
RE Renosu Globetrotter ·
is it even?
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
HELLO

No, the photo in my avatar is a langur from Prachuap.

And you, is it the same?
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
RE Renosu Globetrotter ·
Classic but pretty 😉, and the little boy

Mine is a Javanese princess
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
So, we had to go back to Wat Sutthawat, and luckily, it was open this time. The interior is truly stunning, with flawless and vibrant frescoes.





We were even given access to the small chapel next door, where we discovered statues of King Naruesan and his brother Ekhathotsarot.

Wat Ton Son is a temple from the late Ayutthaya period, located near the technical college in Ang Thong. It was restored in 1945 and again in the 70s/80s. It covers a large area. Right at the entrance, we were greeted by a large seated Buddha, adorned with its parasol.



The first viharn we entered features dazzling frescoes covering all four walls.



The main temple is nothing short of grandiose. Marble floors, large colorful pillars, high ceilings, and of course, another impressive Buddha (19 meters tall and 14 meters wide)! This Buddha is elevated, and you can access it by climbing a few steps, where you’ll find more statues.



We made a quick stop at Wat Keschaiyo to admire the beautiful pair of golden Buddhas enthroned in a small room, which the caretaker kindly opened for us.

Finally, we wrapped up our long "countryside" journey at Wat Chantharangsi, about 4 km southeast of Ang Thong. It’s dedicated to the famous monk Phra Mongkol, whose statues, figurines, portraits, and wax replicas are everywhere. Thais pay their respects in front of large glass orbs, which we’d seen in smaller versions in other temples. You can’t miss the 4-meter-tall vases placed on either side of the largest statue.





Just a few steps away, a Chinese pavilion houses a large, colorful statue of the goddess Kunn Yin. At her feet, another golden statue has been adorned with long pearl necklaces. The pavilion is guarded by four fierce white marble lions, looking adorable with their thick pink ribbons.





« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
As soon as we arrived in Bangkok, we headed to Queen of Curry for lunch. It's a restaurant with a great reputation that turned out to be pretty satisfying. Like most "trendy" spots, though, we still found it overrated. The service was slow, and we got an earful of the commercial music blasting from the bistro next door.

Still in the same neighborhood, Sathorn, we made our way to Wat Yannawa, "the boat temple." Its most obvious feature is a viharn shaped like a boat right in the middle of the grounds, tied to the fleet that once regularly traded with China.





On the ground floor of the main building, we saw a ton of amazing objects, including antiques from several Southeast Asian countries. Unfortunately, like other Chinese-style temples, photography and filming are banned here. We tried to ask why, and someone told us they feared the images might be misused online to mock Buddha. Not sure if that’s the real reason they gave us. And come on, telling *us* that? It doesn’t make sense! The camera clicked just before the official ban was enforced by all the vigilant staff, so at least we’ve got a tiny souvenir...



It was in this temple’s gardens that we finally understood why a tree so common near temples is called the Cannonball Tree. Until then, we’d only seen its flowers. Then you walk up to the tree and wonder what those rusty metal balls hanging from it are. When you realize they’re part of the tree, you’re pretty shocked!





A lot of tourists recommend spending part of the evening at Vivi Café, by the river near Wat Pho. Not only is the space a bit cramped, but since it’s not elevated, the view isn’t as amazing as some claim. We arrived half an hour before closing time and were left with the memory of a surly employee shooing us—and another couple—away with a curt and unpleasant: "Closed."

We definitely came out ahead. After a few minutes’ walk for our first Bangkok by night in ages, we discovered a rooftop on the 5th floor with a fantastic view of the river and the illuminated Wat Arun. Needless to say, we stayed a while, perched at our table right by the railing, soaking in the scenery. Plus, it was one of those summer nights with visible stars. On the other side of the rooftop, a few sofas offered a view of Wat Pho and the Royal Palace in the distance. No crowds, just a blessed moment.



« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
SU SuisseChris Veteran ·
The photo below the .....cannonball..... is really beautiful.

What’s the name of the rooftop on the 5th floor?

Great travel journal—thanks for sharing!
L'éternité c'est très long....surtout vers la fin (Woody Allen)
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Isn’t it true we got a bit lucky with the weather this year for some photos?

As for the cannonball fruit, I can guarantee you don’t want to bump your head on it.

Thanks for reading—Bangkok is just getting started...
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
The day is gray. We decide to take a long-tail boat from Saphan Taksin Pier to see if it turns out more interesting than elsewhere. It doesn’t, since the official rates are set at 1,000, 1,500, and 2,000 baht for 1 hour, 1.5 hours, and 2 hours, respectively. Still, the ride along the klongs wasn’t the main goal, as we make another foray into Thonburi, the district west of the Chao Phraya where Bangkok was born.













Several temples coexist where we’re headed. First, of course, is Wat Paknam. It’s been around since the 16th century, and there’s clearly a crowd there: hundreds of monks, nuns, and novices. The small chapel is a marvel. Not only are the frescoes depicting Buddha’s life of the highest quality, adorned with gold illuminations, but those positioned below represent various royal temples, as well as monks and sovereigns.





In a courtyard between two buildings, the statue of a monk and that of an elephant are honored and covered in gold by throngs of pilgrims. We follow the flow of visitors up a staircase. Everywhere, there’s precious wood. And we emerge into a vast room where everyone is kneeling in prayer before the coffin of the venerable monk, who passed away in 1959 and turned a nearly abandoned temple into a global center for Buddhist faith. On a small platform along the windows, monks sit chanting. We never quite get used to it, and that’s a good thing.





We didn’t visit the gigantic 80-meter white chedi built just a few years ago at great expense. It’s said to be worth the trip—we’ll probably go back someday.

The small Wat Mo doesn’t quite measure up to its prestigious neighbor. Still, we pause for a moment in front of its mini-mountain, home to about thirty Buddhas, all draped in orange.



Wat Kun Chan completes the trio, in a radically different style. It seems they used up all the leftover colorful paint they hadn’t used for other temples here. It was written that we’d be treated to one last facet of temple grandeur: once again, we feel tiny beneath these towering figures...





Worth noting: the little neighborhood around these temples is full of old houses—a small preserved slice of old Bangkok...

« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·




In the Sathorn district, roughly south of Lumphini Park, visiting Mr. Kukrit Pramoj’s house is a fantastic idea. This extraordinary man was a banker, novelist, journalist, actor, and prime minister. He left behind his two-hectare urban estate, where he had traditional houses brought and reconstructed. Entry is 50 baht, with opening hours from 10 AM to 4 PM. This preserves another piece of old Thailand, with modern buildings in the background. The garden’s design on both sides is beautifully done. A bit off the main avenues, it’s a peaceful haven.





Those with some means who are planning to get married can rent part of the place to host family and friends for the reception and banquet. Just be careful not to wake up the next morning with a tiger in your room and a tattooed face...

We started admiring the antiques collected by the former owner, who passed away in 1995. There are still so many treasures gathered by a man who loved his country deeply.





However, our visit wasn’t quite complete this year because we were quickly approached by an elderly man sitting quietly, repairing odds and ends. We caught his eye, and he really wanted to chat with us. His confidence, experience, culture, and distinguished education were immediately apparent. When he explained—half in French, half in English—that he takes care of fixing small things, creating little art objects, and preserving his father’s legacy, we realized we were sitting with Mr. Rongrit Pramoj, son of Mr. Kukrit and great-great-grandson of Rama II. As a good host, he quickly had drinks brought to us. Time flew by as we chatted, and soon it was time for us to leave—we had a culinary meet-up at a specific time.

He then decided to have his driver take us. Seeing our hesitation, he said in his charming English accent, "You know, he uses the car to visit his mistress, so since he’s paid for it, he might as well drive the people I ask him to." No comment—it was so spontaneous and hilarious in that context. We’ve been spoiled this year by the variety and quality of the people we’ve met.

« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
SU SuisseChris Veteran ·
A post full of contrasts between ancient and modern architecture.

The encounter you had is surprising, unexpected, and very enjoyable.

An informative message with friendly photos—all of it is quite pleasant.

I think I know of a small museum near Payathai that houses a few old houses. An oasis of tranquility in the midst of bustling Bangkok. I’ve never been there... Who knows, maybe on my next trip... just forty more days to wait.

PS: As strange as it may seem, I’ve never thought to take photos of modern architecture in Thailand. When I see the results you get, it makes me want to try!
L'éternité c'est très long....surtout vers la fin (Woody Allen)
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Hi Christophe,

The name you mentioned rings a bell, but I might have brought it up on the page linked below. Besides that, there’s still Jim Thompson’s house.

https://voyageforum.com/discussion/recit-quatre-semaines-thailande-sud-angkor-d6221971-7/

A lot of your posts in this thread are really interesting to us. We’d still love to be a fly on the wall and hear your overall impressions. We’re always a bit hesitant to show things that everyone sees just by going to Thailand. Still, those first few minutes after arriving—gazing at the skyline from the tollway—are a feeling we wouldn’t trade. The beautiful sky that morning made it easier to take photos, because otherwise... When you think about it, travel journals don’t really capture our trips. There are so many moments when we don’t feel like pulling out the camera, just living the moment 100%. That’s less of an issue for people who bring a small camera or phone—it’s also about convenience. Before meeting my little photographer, I almost never took vacation photos. Even a camera felt like a burden I didn’t want to deal with—I just wanted to live every moment intensely. When I film, I clearly feel like I’m missing out, and my experience of the moment is rarely as complete. But then, what a reward days, months, or even years later. Right now, you’re counting the days. The rest of us poor souls are counting the months!
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
NO Nolack Regular ·
Hi there, I think you're referring to Suan Pakkad Palace, "the cabbage garden," with its lovely houses and museum. The City Line runs right above it... It's really beautiful but more institutional and less intimate than Kukrit's House. You'll see it all soon—lucky you!
NO Nolack Regular ·
Hello and thank you for these stories. I’m sure many travelers draw inspiration from them. For example, last year, I spent a week in the beautiful Ayutthaya and visited a temple—I can’t remember its name—that’s full of automata and Vegas-style kitsch lights, an idea I got from one of your travel journals. I loved my walk through Kukrit’s House; it’s such a pleasure, and I visit every time I’m in Bangkok—I never get tired of it. I know the slightly strange but charming man you met. He’s the estate manager, a role his family has always held, employed by the Kukrit family for a very long time. I’m surprised he’s descended from King Rama II, but I wouldn’t want to cause anyone to lose face... it’s a serious matter.... He speaks fondly of 1950s Bangkok, when the *khlongs* surrounded the house. A lovely encounter—he likes to pick a few visitors to chat with, and in those cases, you get to stay after closing. You were chosen—congrats! Hope there are more stories to share. Have a great day!
SU SuisseChris Veteran ·
Nolack was right—I went to check out that little museum similar to the one you visited. It’s indeed the Suan Pakkad Palace, or Suan Pakkard. Worth seeing if you get the chance...

As for J.T.’s house, I’ve never been there, even though I’m staying not too far away. So much to see and do, and so little time to do it.

Many of your posts in this thread are interesting to us. We’d love to be a little mouse and know the overall feeling.

Rest assured, my posts don’t represent the overall feeling—just mine, and that’s perfectly fine. 😉

Even a camera was a constraint I didn’t want to bother with—just living each moment intensely

It’s true we could debate the pros and cons of capturing images for a long time. The time spent taking photos isn’t a moment where you fully enjoy the place and the experience. On the other hand, it’s nice to have a few visual memories. Big debate.

Right now, you’re counting the days. The rest of us poor souls are counting the months!

Well, everyone gets their turn. I was envious when you were there...

Since I don’t have your talent for photography or writing, my travel journal will be shorter, and I won’t post photos—I never think they’re good enough. That said, it’s still nice to have beautiful photos to illustrate a travel journal. I remember your first photos in Chiang Mai, the park in the city center—gorgeous shots, and there were so many others.

Have a lovely evening! 🙂
L'éternité c'est très long....surtout vers la fin (Woody Allen)
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Hello,

Thanks for your input!

He is indeed the estate manager, but he’s not employed by the family. He *is* the family. If you search for Rongrit Pramoj on Google and then look at the images, you’ll find a few photos of this gentleman. A bit younger, but you can definitely recognize him. The Thai site mentions two children for Mr. Kukrit—a son and a daughter. The photo of the son matches the man we met there. He told us directly that he was Mr. Kukrit’s son.

Absolutely—if you look into the father’s life, Kukrit Pramoj, you’ll see he and his older brother didn’t become prime ministers by chance. It’s clearly stated that they were the great-grandsons of Rama II.

I’ve concluded that if you don’t know someone is famous, you just see them as a regular person. Well, he did study in England, so he definitely has class...
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
The link I sent you does lead to the page of our travel journal where we went to Suan Pakkad. We preferred M Kukrit’s house, both for the place itself and its location.

Before we went in, we were smoking a cigarette on the big avenue where the buildings are. A cop was hanging around, waiting for us to toss our butts so he could fine us. When he saw we had a little box to recycle them, he was a good sport—gave us a thumbs-up, a big smile, and even congratulated us.
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
NO Nolack Regular ·
Interesting, indeed... I'll check Googlei. The ambiguity about his status is probably because I speak with him in Thai, English, and French—it’s bound to cause some confusion. Not easy, but the historical context you’re explaining makes the encounter even more moving. See you soon, looking forward to reading you again
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
So Françoise had spotted a restaurant she absolutely wanted to try. When she’s set on something, it’s usually a good idea.

The driver dropped us off at Siam Wisdom, in a quiet corner of Sukhumvit. This beautiful house was built around a large tree, which still thrives right in the middle. The new owner is French with Thai origins. She did us a favor by exceptionally letting us set up our table outside—usually, the clientele is high-end and dines in the air-conditioned rooms.



The concept is a rediscovery of lost traditional Thai recipes, in all their finest and most refined forms. We could only bow in admiration after having the chance to taste the results: everything was top-notch, with many unique flavors. We especially appreciated that the owner decided to vary the dishes so that we’d never have the same thing and could try a bit of everything. We didn’t think we’d still have the capacity to eat so much, but we have to admit we didn’t exactly force ourselves (well… maybe a little toward the end…).

And since pictures speak louder than words:





















Obviously, after that, there was no point in trying to visit a temple 😛
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
MO Moustache35 Regular ·
good evening this menu is amazing and what gorgeous photos kenavo
RE Renosu Globetrotter ·
I'd love to put a name to these plates
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
On our last evening, we took a stroll to Nana Plaza, in one of the first streets of Sukhumvit. It’s an incredibly lively area once night falls. The side streets, packed with bars, open onto a square where other, quite different bars coexist—both on the first and second floors.

Nana Plaza is Ali Baba’s cave for broken hearts. It’s the wonderland of the lonely cowboy. It’s the revenge of the shy, the overweight, the unattractive, the abandoned, the unlucky. Nana Plaza is funny, terrifying, mind-blowing. It’s Fellini meets Bangkok.

Nana Plaza is a disco ball. You can see debauchery and lust, the devaluation of women’s image, the incredible tolerance of a society, a garden of pleasures, a marketplace of happiness. Everyone will see something different depending on their level of awareness and consciousness. Of course, the perspective will vary wildly whether you’re a religious person, a bitter young or old individual, an opportunist, or a young man blessed with extraordinary sensuality. But that’s also what makes Amazing Thailand. Life isn’t something you can arbitrarily subtract from or add to based on what suits you.

Obviously, it’s hard for any guy not to have his eyes pop out at the sight of this nest of smiling, (un)dressed women looking as sexy as can be. It’s a bit like a cat suddenly seeing fifty mice scurrying around and not knowing which one to pounce on first. There’s also that indescribable feeling you get from seeing young women who aren’t quite what they seem—so much so that you think some aren’t, even when they actually are.

Françoise was amazed. You really have to see it to believe it. It’s true that it’s nothing like those sordid corners around the world where everything is dark, gloomy, and the faces are unsettling. At Nana Plaza, it’s all about frenzy, conviviality, light, music, and color. There are one or two bars specializing in pseudo-BDSM, and the girl in front of the entrance has a little accessory she uses—and abuses—to spank passersby. When it happened to Françoise and she turned around to see who did it, she came face-to-face with a tiny Thai woman laughing hysterically, a laugh that was terribly contagious.

We only stayed a few minutes but spent much longer on the terrace of a bar almost opposite the square. The entire spectacle unfolding before us far surpassed anything we could’ve seen on TV. Just those two bunnies singing at the top of their lungs in the street with their rabbit ears...

As the song goes: "One night in Bangkok makes a hard man humble," but I’d also say that one night in Bangkok makes a humble man hard...



The next morning, we dangerously ventured closer to the tourist district with a little walk through the mini neighborhood of Phraeng Phuton, near the Tiger Shrine. It’s filled with identical wooden houses housing shops and cafés. It’s a nice change from what you usually see in the city.



Before ending our trip with our traditional pilgrimage to Chinatown, we visited Wat Rajapraditsathit Mahasimaram Rajavaravihara to atone for our sins from the night before.

We don’t know what we give to Thailand in return, but it sure gives it back to us!









« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
AS Asia7 Globetrotter ·
Your story is (almost) an invitation to go see for ourselves... 🏴‍☠️ To pick up just one part of your story: "Françoise was amazed. It’s true that until you see it, you don’t believe it. It’s not like all those grimy spots around the world where it’s dark, seedy, and the faces are unsettling. At Nana Plaza, it’s all energy, friendliness, light, music, and color."

But with what eyes did you and Françoise see this? You can’t just ignore the darker side of what you’re describing so lightly! Do you have even the slightest idea what prostitution and sexual slavery are? Because that’s exactly what these three districts—So Cowboy, Nana Plaza, and Patpong—are about.

To other readers: Am I really the only bitter old person, as you put it, reacting to the few who’ve read your post?
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
NO Nolack Regular ·
No, Fabienne, your reaction doesn’t make you a bitter old person... it’s a sensitive topic, and you’re speaking about it with your own sensitivity. But if you’d be so kind as to reread those lines while giving Françoise and Joël the credit of having no tolerance for human exploitation, you might see something different. I didn’t see any flippancy—just a kind perspective, a testimony without dogma. As Joël says, we can’t ignore what we don’t like about Thailand; it exists too. As for "going to see for yourself," maybe it can help make some sense of things... Best regards, Christine
AS Asia7 Globetrotter ·
Hello Christine,

It’s the kindness and lack of dogmatism that really got me thinking. I understand that Jojo wanted to describe what he saw without judgment. However, when you tackle such a topic, you inevitably get involved, and not speaking out—or barely—about the conditions of the women (and sometimes children) who work in these places can be questionable. That’s how I felt.

Since I’m neither religious, an opportunist, nor a young man blessed with an extraordinary sensuality, the only remaining option in the range of different perspectives offered was to be a bitter young or old person. Since I’m no longer 20, I went with the latter ;).

Best regards, Fabienne
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
SU SuisseChris Veteran ·
Hello,

I understand that Jojo wanted to describe what he saw without judgment. However, when tackling such a topic, one inevitably gets involved, and not speaking out—or barely—about the conditions of the women, sometimes children, who work in these places can be questionable. That’s how I felt.

A rather odd feeling, all things considered... because according to you, Jojoone didn’t denounce the conditions of the women, sometimes children, who work in these places enough, which can be questionable.

What’s odd is your reasoning... if he describes, he must denounce, otherwise he’s condoning it... open-minded friend, move along.

Jojoone described what he felt, full stop. Why not accept things as they are, rather than how you’d wish them to be?

You have your own ideas about these places—I don’t write *felt* because I doubt you’ve taken the time to get to know these places and the people who work there. If you had, you wouldn’t have written what you did.

Have a lovely day.
L'éternité c'est très long....surtout vers la fin (Woody Allen)
BA Barefoot Veteran ·
Wow, where have you set foot? You’re about to trigger an angry mob…

Didn’t you know that in this travel journal, Jojo1er isn’t looking for readers but admirers? Doesn’t expect feedback, only praise? Didn’t you know it’s not wise to disrupt the master’s work when we’re incapable of writing a journal ourselves? What can we say, we’re not on his level, and we don’t deserve such great travelers among us. Given that most readers don’t automatically write a response, you can tell he sits high in this virtual microcosm. Oh no, according to his keen analysis, those who dare to express an opinion that doesn’t stroke his ego the right way are just bitter and jealous of his annual leave. Bitter and psychologically rigid too. Oh yes, you’ll see—we’re in for it. 😉

Let Jojo not get too carried away—if you hadn’t come to post your thoughts, I wouldn’t have been curious enough to read the end of his extraordinary adventures.

In a story that claims to be *the* journey around temples and Buddhas of all shapes and colors but ends up feeling like a cow watching trains pass without distinguishing one from another, ending at Nana Plaza… there’s something I just don’t get. Goodness, he just missed out on the award for best travel journal and greatest traveler of the year!

You’re not the only one who raised an eyebrow at his grand finale. We might not be the same age, but we understood the same thing. That a man is fascinated by so much light is completely normal, and well, it’s cultural, isn’t it? That a woman is *épatée* (amazed, in a way that’s more or less admiring) to see other women doing a job she wouldn’t accept—or, I hope, wouldn’t want her sister/daughter/niece/friends to do just to survive and support their families—is even more baffling to me. Unless it’s some kind of voyeurism I just don’t get. A job no woman, unless for pathological reasons, chooses out of pure pleasure or vocation. Do you think these young, flirtatious, smiling girls brag to their village when they return about shaking their hips or playing pool for a living? *Éberluer* (stupefy) or *sidérer* (astound) would’ve had a different meaning here. Conviviality, light, music, color, infectious laughter—their sensitivity isn’t mine. "Denouncing" with such words… I need to reread the dictionary.

I didn’t need to "go see" for myself—I’ve talked to plenty of them. And because they had nothing to sell me, not even a drink, I didn’t hear the same story as those men who claim there’s no sexual slavery in Thailand… Temples are beautiful and all, but only if you’re not overdosing on them. Taking an interest in the "little people" who make up the essence of a country is even more enriching.

Women have fought so that today we have the right to choose whether to have children, a job we love and thrive in, no longer depend financially on a husband, access political roles, and discover the world. Isn’t it desirable that globalization also gives these women on the other side of the world—who will raise their children and the next generation—the same rights? But as long as there are people encouraging others to "go see" on the other side of the planet that women remain objects to rent because it’s *sanuk* and "tolerated," and as long as others applaud it, we’re in trouble.
AS Asia7 Globetrotter ·
Hello,

I’m touching on what stirs the senses—and it’s unsettling.... You’re right... I’ll move on! But it’s not because you’re inviting me to, nor is it due to a lack of openness—I must have just as much as you do. Just because Joel describes what he felt doesn’t take away my right to react to that same description.... I have the right, like anyone else, to speak up on this forum and regret that the story doesn’t mention the people and their conditions.
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
AS Asia7 Globetrotter ·
Phew, I was feeling pretty alone facing those gentlemen .

You laid out exactly what made me react to the "grand finale"—thanks! The rest of the journal was missing the male perspective; I read it but didn’t feel any urge to check it out!

Have a great day.
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
RE Renosu Globetrotter ·
I really liked the photos of the temples—beautiful light, great sharpness, really good framing, and always that little original detail. Though they do feel a bit lifeless overall, except for the ones with kids, especially the birthday video.

I can see the light touch to help digest all those temples, but I’d have loved more photos 😉 Still, the same documentary-style shots from Nana—neon lights, girls, lively street restaurants, etc. As for the condemnation, this isn’t the place for it in this travel journal. It’s a complex topic specific to Thailand and Asia that’s been discussed elsewhere.
BA Barefoot Veteran ·
for condemnation not the place here in this travel journal a complex topic specific to Thailand and Asia that was discussed elsewhere

Absolutely, I won’t go into more detail. Just my two cents as a regular reader, nothing more.
SU SuisseChris Veteran ·
Wow, where have you set foot? You're about to trigger the fury of an angry mob!

Didn’t you know that in this travel journal, Jojo1er isn’t looking for readers but admirers; he doesn’t expect comments, only praise? Didn’t you know it’s not wise to disrupt the master’s work when we’re incapable of writing a journal ourselves? What can I say, we’re not on his level, and we don’t deserve such great travelers among us. Given that most readers don’t automatically write feedback, you can tell he sits high in this virtual microcosm. Oh no, according to his sharp analysis, those who dare express an opinion that doesn’t stroke his ego the right way are bitter and jealous of his annual leave. Bitter and psychologically rigid too. Oh yes, you’ll see—we’re in for it.😉 ...........In a story that claims to be *the* journey around temples and Buddhas of all shapes and colors, but ultimately looks like a cow watching trains go by without telling them apart, ending at Nana Plaza—there’s something I just don’t get... Darn, he just missed out on the award for best travel journal and greatest traveler of the year!

A direct attack on Jojoone, who hasn’t responded to the posts after his last message. Clearly, you’ve got something against him and you’re using Asia7’s message to settle scores.

I expected better from you.

I didn’t need to “go see”—I talked to quite a few of them, and because they had nothing to sell me, not even a drink, I didn’t hear the same story as those gentlemen who claim there’s no sexual slavery in Thailand…

Oh, that’s new… no need to go see, but you managed to talk to a lot of them… I’m curious—how did you meet so many girls to discuss their jobs?

those gentlemen who claim there’s no sexual slavery in Thailand

That’s a convenient shortcut, but it’s imprecise.

Let’s be more precise.

It’s likely there *is* sexual slavery in Thailand. It exists in many countries and isn’t unique to Thailand.

However, talking about sexual slavery in Nana or Cowboy shows the person hasn’t taken the time to understand these places or the people who work there.

Quick reminder: Definition of slavery according to the dictionary: The state or condition of those under tyrannical domination; subjugation, servitude: To hold a people in slavery. Close dependence of someone on something or someone; an activity that imposes subjection or constraint: The slavery of drugs.

The people who work in Nana or Cowboy have chosen to do so. It’s their personal choice, and they can stop whenever they want—no one will say anything. New people arrive, and others leave every day.

Now, let’s talk about the economic side. In Thailand, the unemployment rate is extremely low. It’s not hard for a Thai person to find a job.

The thing is, bar girls usually don’t have the education level to access fulfilling jobs with salaries that allow them to live comfortably. They have access to unskilled jobs—working in a factory for very low pay, for example. Some choose to work in Nana or Cowboy, with the dream—realistic or not—of meeting a foreigner who’ll offer them a comfortable life. But it’s a choice, and it has nothing to do with slavery.

Women fought so that today we have the right to choose whether to have children or not, a job we love and thrive in, no longer depend financially on a husband, the chance to hold political positions, and discover the world. Isn’t it desirable that globalization also gives these women at the end of the world—who will raise their children and the next generation—the same rights? But as long as there are people encouraging others to “go see” on the other side of the planet that women remain objects to rent because it’s “sanuk” and “tolerated,” and as long as others applaud, we’re in trouble.

A feminist paragraph—not wrong, women had to fight for access to certain things. But lumping that together with prostitution in Thailand isn’t helpful; it distorts reality.

But as long as there are people encouraging others to “go see” on the other side of the planet that women remain objects to rent

So it’s the fault of people who encourage others to “go see”… But actually, if there weren’t women working in prostitution, there wouldn’t be clients. If there weren’t clients, there wouldn’t be prostitutes. It’s the chicken-and-egg question… which came first, the chicken or the egg?

I think it’s wrong to say that women working in Nana or Cowboy are objects to rent. They choose who they go with and aren’t forced to go with a client. So no, they’re not objects to rent. They’re women who do what they want with their bodies and with whom they want. We’re far from slavery…

One last thing I’d like to suggest you consider.

If you know Thailand a little, you’ve probably noticed that this people doesn’t have the same education as Western Europeans, not the same way of seeing things, not the same life principles. Given that, maybe they don’t share your views on prostitution…

Nothing is ever all black or all white… everything is just shades of gray.

Have a great Saturday.
L'éternité c'est très long....surtout vers la fin (Woody Allen)

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