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Peut-on changer de culture?...
by Williama
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
"Parce qu'elle s'appuient sur des trais forcés, des caricatures... les généralités creusent artificiellement des différences là où il n'y en a peut-être pas."
mais justement !!
ce sont les petites habitudes d'un peuple, les petites traditions ringuardes, les traits forcés qui font voyager et decouvrir un pays, ses habitants .
aller boire un café le matin dans un bar de marché en france , une biere dans un pub en irlande, des tapas en espagne, visiter un marché en afrique, un boutique de vetements en ouzbekistan, une piece de theatre en russie....... c'est y voir des differences de culture, et surtout les decouvrir, qui est pour beaucoup le but du voyage.
mais justement !!
ce sont les petites habitudes d'un peuple, les petites traditions ringuardes, les traits forcés qui font voyager et decouvrir un pays, ses habitants .
aller boire un café le matin dans un bar de marché en france , une biere dans un pub en irlande, des tapas en espagne, visiter un marché en afrique, un boutique de vetements en ouzbekistan, une piece de theatre en russie....... c'est y voir des differences de culture, et surtout les decouvrir, qui est pour beaucoup le but du voyage.
Pas d'origines étrangères chez les Kola ?😏
Si c'était le cas, je pense sincèrement que tu ne pourrais pas écrire ça.
Qu'est ce que je ne pourrais pas écrire ? Qu'entre 2 grandes villes reliées par 4 heures de train les différences culturelles ne sont pas si significatives qu'il faille se dresser sur ses ergots pour les souligner ou les revendiquer ?
Ta première question est pertinente... Et c'est peut-être justement parce que kola est née étrangère dans un pays étranger... qu'elle a fait sa scolarité dans un établissement Français (les fameuses MUCF... ), qu'elle passait ses vacances dans un autre pays d'Europe, qu'elle a beaucoup voyagé enfant et adolescente... qu'elle a absorbé comme une éponge ces multiples et influentes différences culturelles... Que je peux maintenant venir sur un forum pousser à bout dulmutien, bien que nous ne soyons pas en désaccord, (mais c'est qu'il est un peu têtu.)🙂
Qu'est ce que je ne pourrais pas écrire ? Qu'entre 2 grandes villes reliées par 4 heures de train les différences culturelles ne sont pas si significatives qu'il faille se dresser sur ses ergots pour les souligner ou les revendiquer ?
Ta première question est pertinente... Et c'est peut-être justement parce que kola est née étrangère dans un pays étranger... qu'elle a fait sa scolarité dans un établissement Français (les fameuses MUCF... ), qu'elle passait ses vacances dans un autre pays d'Europe, qu'elle a beaucoup voyagé enfant et adolescente... qu'elle a absorbé comme une éponge ces multiples et influentes différences culturelles... Que je peux maintenant venir sur un forum pousser à bout dulmutien, bien que nous ne soyons pas en désaccord, (mais c'est qu'il est un peu têtu.)🙂
"Ce qui est affirmé sans preuve peut être dénoncé sans preuve" - Euclide.
Vous nous affirmez qu'il existe une "évidente" unité culturelle française déterminée par les frontières nationale et qui sert de repère identitaire à l'ensemble de la population. Pour le moment, le seul argument en faveur de cette hypothèse que vous avez été en mesure de fournir est : "c'est évident, je le vis quotidiennement".
Bon, ça tient plus de la foi que du raisonnement scientifique, tout ça, aussi la discussion tourne en rond depuis un moment déjà. Vous admettrez qu'il est audacieux d'avancer l'existence d'un "quelque chose" à quoi plus de 60 000 000 d'êtres humains sont censés répondre. Si ça existe, je veux bien qu'on me dise ce que c'est. Concrètement.
C'est un tantinet comme les AOC : on produit le roquefort uniquement dans la ville de Roquefort. On peut inversement dire que ce qui caractérise la ville de Roquefort est, sans doute entre autres, la production du fromage éponyme et admettre par conséquent que ce fromage fait partie de la culture locale.
Je n'ai pas eu de peine à vous montrer qu'il y a des soi-disant constantes françaises qui ne se vérifient pas du tout sur l'ensemble du territoire, à commencer par la loi de 1905 sur la séparation de l'église et de l'Etat, supposée déterminer la façon de vivre la religion des français. Ce n'est pas le cas en Alsace-Lorraine.
Si ce que vous dites était vrai, on pourrait alors affirmer qu'il existe une "culture de Grande-bretagne", une "culture allemande" ou encore qu'il y a eu une "culture Austro-hongroise". Tout ceci est faux. Noyer les écossais, les gallois, les anglais etc dans une seule et même marmite dont le contenu s'appellerait "GB culture" serait ridicule. Il en va de même ailleurs.
Parler de culture comme "ensemble des faits et comportements humains" revient à ignorer le découpage géopolitique déterminé par les frontières nationales. Admettre ce découpage revient à ne plus parler de culture, mais d'identité nationale. Ce n'est pas une vulgarité ni une dépréciation. C'est de la rigueur.
Bon, c'est pas tout ça mais moi j'ai une pizza italienne à manger en regardant une série américaine tout en buvant une bière tchèque et réchauffant ma tarte tatin française. Mince alors, quelle soirée culturelle !
Vous nous affirmez qu'il existe une "évidente" unité culturelle française déterminée par les frontières nationale et qui sert de repère identitaire à l'ensemble de la population. Pour le moment, le seul argument en faveur de cette hypothèse que vous avez été en mesure de fournir est : "c'est évident, je le vis quotidiennement".
Bon, ça tient plus de la foi que du raisonnement scientifique, tout ça, aussi la discussion tourne en rond depuis un moment déjà. Vous admettrez qu'il est audacieux d'avancer l'existence d'un "quelque chose" à quoi plus de 60 000 000 d'êtres humains sont censés répondre. Si ça existe, je veux bien qu'on me dise ce que c'est. Concrètement.
C'est un tantinet comme les AOC : on produit le roquefort uniquement dans la ville de Roquefort. On peut inversement dire que ce qui caractérise la ville de Roquefort est, sans doute entre autres, la production du fromage éponyme et admettre par conséquent que ce fromage fait partie de la culture locale.
Je n'ai pas eu de peine à vous montrer qu'il y a des soi-disant constantes françaises qui ne se vérifient pas du tout sur l'ensemble du territoire, à commencer par la loi de 1905 sur la séparation de l'église et de l'Etat, supposée déterminer la façon de vivre la religion des français. Ce n'est pas le cas en Alsace-Lorraine.
Si ce que vous dites était vrai, on pourrait alors affirmer qu'il existe une "culture de Grande-bretagne", une "culture allemande" ou encore qu'il y a eu une "culture Austro-hongroise". Tout ceci est faux. Noyer les écossais, les gallois, les anglais etc dans une seule et même marmite dont le contenu s'appellerait "GB culture" serait ridicule. Il en va de même ailleurs.
Parler de culture comme "ensemble des faits et comportements humains" revient à ignorer le découpage géopolitique déterminé par les frontières nationales. Admettre ce découpage revient à ne plus parler de culture, mais d'identité nationale. Ce n'est pas une vulgarité ni une dépréciation. C'est de la rigueur.
Bon, c'est pas tout ça mais moi j'ai une pizza italienne à manger en regardant une série américaine tout en buvant une bière tchèque et réchauffant ma tarte tatin française. Mince alors, quelle soirée culturelle !
Qui veut chasser une migraine n'a qu'à boire toujours du bon
ce sont les petites habitudes d'un peuple, les petites traditions ringuardes, les traits forcés qui font voyager et decouvrir un pays, ses habitants .
aller boire un café le matin dans un bar de marché en france , une biere dans un pub en irlande, des tapas en espagne, visiter un marché en afrique, un boutique de vetements en ouzbekistan, une piece de theatre en russie....... c'est y voir des differences de culture, et surtout les decouvrir, qui est pour beaucoup le but du voyage.
Mais nous sommes d'accord, et c'est tout l'intérêt d'aller voir ailleurs (si on y est ? 🤪... )
Le postulat de départ était : peut-on changer de culture ? Les derniers échanges, ceux où l'on semble s'empailler... disent tous à leur manière que la question était mal posée. On peut s'enrichir sans se dépouiller, sans renoncer, sans se renier...
aller boire un café le matin dans un bar de marché en france , une biere dans un pub en irlande, des tapas en espagne, visiter un marché en afrique, un boutique de vetements en ouzbekistan, une piece de theatre en russie....... c'est y voir des differences de culture, et surtout les decouvrir, qui est pour beaucoup le but du voyage.
Mais nous sommes d'accord, et c'est tout l'intérêt d'aller voir ailleurs (si on y est ? 🤪... )
Le postulat de départ était : peut-on changer de culture ? Les derniers échanges, ceux où l'on semble s'empailler... disent tous à leur manière que la question était mal posée. On peut s'enrichir sans se dépouiller, sans renoncer, sans se renier...
Ou : peut-on changer de culture... comme on change de chemise ?
(et si on la passe en machine... est-c'que les couleurs d'origine peuvent rev'nir ?)
Pourquoi toujours cette manière caricaturale de présenter les choses...
... "manger, boire, dormir"... Abandonner la fourchette pour des baguettes, ou pour ses doigts... Avoir 3 verres devant soi, boire dans ses mains ou direct au pis d'la vache... Dormir sur un matelas, sur un hamac, par terre ou dans un lit... Ça change une manière de faire, pas une culture !
... "Se soigner"... où que l'on soit, est-ce une question de culture, ou une question de moyens ?
... "Passer d'une société clanique à une autre soumise à des règles étatiques ou le contraire"... (et passer d'un régime de droite à un régime de gauche, non ?)... Quel rapport avec la culture ?
... "Faire l'amour"... Ben si tu gardais tes chaussettes, tu les enlèves !
... "Concevoir la vieillesse, la mort"... (et la naissance ?) Les sociétés civilisées ayant peu à peu repoussé dans l'ombre ces événements... on peut se tourner sans arrogance vers d'autres philosophies de vie, d'autres cultures, plus sages que la notre quant à la manière de considérer ces moments...
Si on trouve ailleurs, chez d'autres, une ou des manières de faire qui nous correspondent davantage... quel que soit le domaine... on s'enrichit avec. On les met dans sa besace et, sans avoir rien renié, sans avoir rien déconstruit... on continue le chemin...
Bin oui il y a des voyages qui prennent une tournure initiatique et changent fondamentalement certains individus : conversion ou empathie pour une religion, remise en question dans la façon de se nourrir, refondation de l' espace de vie, prise de position et défense de système politiques / religieux / philosophiques aux antipodes de l'éducation reçue ou du milieu d'origine etc... Toutes les règles et les certitudes culturelles peuvent être remis en question par la découverte et la connaissance d'une autre culture. Qui d'entre nous ne connait pas de personnes dans son entourage qui n'ont connu pareil évolution sans que cela n'atteigne forcément des extrêmes ...
Pourquoi toujours cette manière caricaturale de présenter les choses...
... "manger, boire, dormir"... Abandonner la fourchette pour des baguettes, ou pour ses doigts... Avoir 3 verres devant soi, boire dans ses mains ou direct au pis d'la vache... Dormir sur un matelas, sur un hamac, par terre ou dans un lit... Ça change une manière de faire, pas une culture !
... "Se soigner"... où que l'on soit, est-ce une question de culture, ou une question de moyens ?
... "Passer d'une société clanique à une autre soumise à des règles étatiques ou le contraire"... (et passer d'un régime de droite à un régime de gauche, non ?)... Quel rapport avec la culture ?
... "Faire l'amour"... Ben si tu gardais tes chaussettes, tu les enlèves !
... "Concevoir la vieillesse, la mort"... (et la naissance ?) Les sociétés civilisées ayant peu à peu repoussé dans l'ombre ces événements... on peut se tourner sans arrogance vers d'autres philosophies de vie, d'autres cultures, plus sages que la notre quant à la manière de considérer ces moments...
Si on trouve ailleurs, chez d'autres, une ou des manières de faire qui nous correspondent davantage... quel que soit le domaine... on s'enrichit avec. On les met dans sa besace et, sans avoir rien renié, sans avoir rien déconstruit... on continue le chemin...
Bin oui il y a des voyages qui prennent une tournure initiatique et changent fondamentalement certains individus : conversion ou empathie pour une religion, remise en question dans la façon de se nourrir, refondation de l' espace de vie, prise de position et défense de système politiques / religieux / philosophiques aux antipodes de l'éducation reçue ou du milieu d'origine etc... Toutes les règles et les certitudes culturelles peuvent être remis en question par la découverte et la connaissance d'une autre culture. Qui d'entre nous ne connait pas de personnes dans son entourage qui n'ont connu pareil évolution sans que cela n'atteigne forcément des extrêmes ...
Vous nous affirmez qu'il existe une "évidente" unité culturelle française
Non, je n'ai jamais parlé d'unité culturelle française, mais simplement de culture française, riche précisément de sa diversité.
Parler de culture comme "ensemble des faits et comportements humains" revient à ignorer le découpage géopolitique déterminé par les frontières nationales. Admettre ce découpage revient à ne plus parler de culture, mais d'identité nationale. Ce n'est pas une vulgarité ni une dépréciation. C'est de la rigueur.
Donc, si je te suis bien, il n'y a aucune différence culturelle entre un Londonien et un Parisien, mais simplement une différence d'identité nationale ?
Non, je n'ai jamais parlé d'unité culturelle française, mais simplement de culture française, riche précisément de sa diversité.
Parler de culture comme "ensemble des faits et comportements humains" revient à ignorer le découpage géopolitique déterminé par les frontières nationales. Admettre ce découpage revient à ne plus parler de culture, mais d'identité nationale. Ce n'est pas une vulgarité ni une dépréciation. C'est de la rigueur.
Donc, si je te suis bien, il n'y a aucune différence culturelle entre un Londonien et un Parisien, mais simplement une différence d'identité nationale ?
aller boire un café le matin dans un bar de marché en france , une biere dans un pub en irlande, des tapas en espagne, visiter un marché en afrique, un boutique de vetements en ouzbekistan, une piece de theatre en russie....... c'est y voir des differences de culture, et surtout les decouvrir, qui est pour beaucoup le but du voyage.
+1 en forme le Simon!!!😉
+1 en forme le Simon!!!😉
je n'ai jamais parlé d'unité culturelle française, mais simplement de culture française
Je parlais d'unité dans le sens "unifiée".
Donc, si je te suis bien, il n'y a aucune différence culturelle entre un Londonien et un Parisien, mais simplement une différence d'identité nationale ?
Vous avez du mal à ne pas mettre ces termes en opposition, pas vrai ? Mais je persiste à croire qu'un Londonien et un Parisien sont très proches, en effet. Plus proches en tout cas qu'un Parisien et un guérétois...
Je parlais d'unité dans le sens "unifiée".
Donc, si je te suis bien, il n'y a aucune différence culturelle entre un Londonien et un Parisien, mais simplement une différence d'identité nationale ?
Vous avez du mal à ne pas mettre ces termes en opposition, pas vrai ? Mais je persiste à croire qu'un Londonien et un Parisien sont très proches, en effet. Plus proches en tout cas qu'un Parisien et un guérétois...
Qui veut chasser une migraine n'a qu'à boire toujours du bon
Et c'est peut-être justement parce que kola est née étrangère dans un pays étranger... qu'elle a fait sa scolarité dans un établissement Français (les fameuses MUCF... ), qu'elle passait ses vacances dans un autre pays d'Europe, qu'elle a beaucoup voyagé enfant et adolescente... qu'elle a absorbé comme une éponge ces multiples et influentes différences culturelles...
Oui, mais à quel âge Kola est-elle arrivée en France ? N'a-t-elle pas baigné dans la culture française dès le début de sa scolarité ?
Tu dis avoir absorbé comme une éponge les multiples et influentes différences culturelles des pays où tu as voyagé enfant puis adolescente. Mais as-tu acquis autant d'identité que d'"absorptions" ?
Oui, mais à quel âge Kola est-elle arrivée en France ? N'a-t-elle pas baigné dans la culture française dès le début de sa scolarité ?
Tu dis avoir absorbé comme une éponge les multiples et influentes différences culturelles des pays où tu as voyagé enfant puis adolescente. Mais as-tu acquis autant d'identité que d'"absorptions" ?
On ne se dépouille pas de ce qui a nourri nos cellules...
On peut avoir des empathies ou des répulsions très fortes, par périodes, mais sur l'espace d'une vie ?...
Les seuls cas de "changement" définitifs, et cela va bien au delà de la culture... sont le fait ceux ou celles qui ont choisi de renoncer à une certaine forme d'existence en se cloitrant, réellement, physiquement... Mais les vocations se perdraient...
Je pense également à Mathieu Ricard, qui semble à l'aise dans ses deux cultures... il ne semble pas avoir sacrifié l'une pour aller consciemment vers l'autre. Et semble également nourri par l'une et par l'autre...
Les seuls cas de "changement" définitifs, et cela va bien au delà de la culture... sont le fait ceux ou celles qui ont choisi de renoncer à une certaine forme d'existence en se cloitrant, réellement, physiquement... Mais les vocations se perdraient...
Je pense également à Mathieu Ricard, qui semble à l'aise dans ses deux cultures... il ne semble pas avoir sacrifié l'une pour aller consciemment vers l'autre. Et semble également nourri par l'une et par l'autre...
Je ne comprends pas ton message, ni ce qu'il veut démontrer...
Mais je persiste à croire qu'un Londonien et un Parisien sont très proches, en effet. Plus proches en tout cas qu'un Parisien et un guérétois...
Mais on ne peut pas être d'accord avec ça ! Il y a des quantités de nuances et de références culturelles qu'un Parisien et un Guérétois partagent d'emblée, et qu'un Londonien ne comprendra pas. Par exemple, un allusion à l'histoire, à la politique ou un simple jeu de mots...
Mais on ne peut pas être d'accord avec ça ! Il y a des quantités de nuances et de références culturelles qu'un Parisien et un Guérétois partagent d'emblée, et qu'un Londonien ne comprendra pas. Par exemple, un allusion à l'histoire, à la politique ou un simple jeu de mots...
Il y a des quantités de nuances et de références culturelles qu'un Parisien et un Guérétois partagent d'emblée
Et il y en a tant qu'ils ne partagent pas, comme l'environnement, la façon de vivre, de travailler, de se déplacer, même de se distraire, d'aborder autrui, de concevoir les relations envers son prochain....
Mais on ne peut pas être d'accord avec ça
Ceci n'est pas un argument. Au mieux, c'est une opinion.
Et il y en a tant qu'ils ne partagent pas, comme l'environnement, la façon de vivre, de travailler, de se déplacer, même de se distraire, d'aborder autrui, de concevoir les relations envers son prochain....
Mais on ne peut pas être d'accord avec ça
Ceci n'est pas un argument. Au mieux, c'est une opinion.
Qui veut chasser une migraine n'a qu'à boire toujours du bon
Je ne comprends pas ton message, ni ce qu'il veut démontrer...
Il veut simplement dire que tu as comme tout le monde une identité, celle que tu as acquise en te construisant, et que tu n'en as pas superposé d'autres au cours de tes voyages de l'enfance et de l'adolescence.
Tu as simplement enrichi ta culture française des autres cultures "absorbées" au cours de tes voyages.
Il veut simplement dire que tu as comme tout le monde une identité, celle que tu as acquise en te construisant, et que tu n'en as pas superposé d'autres au cours de tes voyages de l'enfance et de l'adolescence.
Tu as simplement enrichi ta culture française des autres cultures "absorbées" au cours de tes voyages.
Je rejoins kedor...
Il est certainement plus facile pour un parisien de se fondre comme un poisson dans l'eau... 🤪 au sein d'une grande ville étrangère... que de s'implanter dans un petit village au fin fond de la france dite profonde... et de s'essayer à "référencer culturellement"
Il est certainement plus facile pour un parisien de se fondre comme un poisson dans l'eau... 🤪 au sein d'une grande ville étrangère... que de s'implanter dans un petit village au fin fond de la france dite profonde... et de s'essayer à "référencer culturellement"
Et il y en a tant qu'ils ne partagent pas, comme l'environnement, la façon de vivre, de travailler, de se déplacer, même de se distraire, d'aborder autrui, de concevoir les relations envers son prochain....
Ah bon, il y a tant de différences que ça entre un Parisien et un Guérétois ? Est-ce la dimension de la ville qui change tout ? Ainsi, ils ne concevraient pas les relations envers leur prochain de la même manière ? Mais pourquoi donc ? Les uns seraient-ils plus civilisés, et les autres plus ploucs ?
Ne sont-ils pas des Français ? Ne parlent-ils pas la même langue ? N'ont-ils pas en commun une quantité de références culturelles ? N'ont-ils pas appris une même histoire ? Ne suivent-ils pas la même actualité ? Ne lisent-ils pas les mêmes livres ? (à moins que certains ouvrages soient réservés à une intelligentsia parisienne) ?
Ah bon, il y a tant de différences que ça entre un Parisien et un Guérétois ? Est-ce la dimension de la ville qui change tout ? Ainsi, ils ne concevraient pas les relations envers leur prochain de la même manière ? Mais pourquoi donc ? Les uns seraient-ils plus civilisés, et les autres plus ploucs ?
Ne sont-ils pas des Français ? Ne parlent-ils pas la même langue ? N'ont-ils pas en commun une quantité de références culturelles ? N'ont-ils pas appris une même histoire ? Ne suivent-ils pas la même actualité ? Ne lisent-ils pas les mêmes livres ? (à moins que certains ouvrages soient réservés à une intelligentsia parisienne) ?
Le postulat de départ était : peut-on changer de culture ?
Les derniers échanges, ceux où l'on semble s'empailler... disent tous à leur manière que la question était mal posée.
On peut s'enrichir sans se dépouiller, sans renoncer, sans se renier...
... L'intérêt d'un topic n'est pas de répondre définitivement à une question mais de révéler où se trouvent les césures et les démarcations. Cette discussion prend une tournure inattendue ... terminé les bons vieux débats droite / gauche .. et c'est moi l'innocence même, le poussin dans l'oeuf qui l'affirme🙁😉 Je suis cette fois d'accord avec Dumul', Simon et Mariecurry sur cette question car ils parlent d'enracinement et de différences culturelles des individus comme d'une chose naturelle .. ce sont pour moi des évidences ... alors que toi , Kédor , Attila etc ... concevez plutôt cette question comme un millefeuille qui grandit et s'enrichit au fur et à mesure des expériences voyageuses, chaque individu devenant alors un cas unique ... c'est curieux mais on retombe exactement sur le débat qui taraude de plus en plus tous les domaines de notre société entre mondialistes qui conçoivent les pays comme des "hôtels" et le monde comme un hypermarché culturel et ceux qui s'appuient sur la singularité des peuples ...
... L'intérêt d'un topic n'est pas de répondre définitivement à une question mais de révéler où se trouvent les césures et les démarcations. Cette discussion prend une tournure inattendue ... terminé les bons vieux débats droite / gauche .. et c'est moi l'innocence même, le poussin dans l'oeuf qui l'affirme🙁😉 Je suis cette fois d'accord avec Dumul', Simon et Mariecurry sur cette question car ils parlent d'enracinement et de différences culturelles des individus comme d'une chose naturelle .. ce sont pour moi des évidences ... alors que toi , Kédor , Attila etc ... concevez plutôt cette question comme un millefeuille qui grandit et s'enrichit au fur et à mesure des expériences voyageuses, chaque individu devenant alors un cas unique ... c'est curieux mais on retombe exactement sur le débat qui taraude de plus en plus tous les domaines de notre société entre mondialistes qui conçoivent les pays comme des "hôtels" et le monde comme un hypermarché culturel et ceux qui s'appuient sur la singularité des peuples ...
Peut-être que l'on nourrit le débat avec notre histoire personnelle...
Ta conclusion est peut-être un peu hâtive... et il est réellement dommage que tu réduises tout ce qui s'est dit à une opposition binaire et sans nuances.
Ta conclusion est peut-être un peu hâtive... et il est réellement dommage que tu réduises tout ce qui s'est dit à une opposition binaire et sans nuances.
et c'est moi l'innocence même, le poussin dans l'oeuf qui l'affirme🙁😉
😇😇😇😉
Il y a une chose qui m'a toujours frappé au cours de mes voyages, c'est le niveau de langue et la connaissance de la culture locale qui faut avoir pour comprendre une simple petite blague racontée à la fin d'un repas un peu arrosé. Le plus souvent, seuls les autochtones la comprennent, parce qu'elle fait référence à des jeux de mots et à des notions culturelles ignorés de l'étranger que je suis. C'est bête, mais je suis ainsi moins désarmé devant le texte d'un grand auteur argentin que face à une blagounette racontée à la fin d'un asado.
Que cette blague soit populaire, elle n'en reste pas moins une manifestation de la culture du pays.
Kedor, si un Guérétois prononce une petite blague lors d'un banquet où sont conviés un Parisien et un Londonien, à ton avis lequel de ces derniers aura le plus de chances de comprendre la plaisanterie ?
😇😇😇😉
Il y a une chose qui m'a toujours frappé au cours de mes voyages, c'est le niveau de langue et la connaissance de la culture locale qui faut avoir pour comprendre une simple petite blague racontée à la fin d'un repas un peu arrosé. Le plus souvent, seuls les autochtones la comprennent, parce qu'elle fait référence à des jeux de mots et à des notions culturelles ignorés de l'étranger que je suis. C'est bête, mais je suis ainsi moins désarmé devant le texte d'un grand auteur argentin que face à une blagounette racontée à la fin d'un asado.
Que cette blague soit populaire, elle n'en reste pas moins une manifestation de la culture du pays.
Kedor, si un Guérétois prononce une petite blague lors d'un banquet où sont conviés un Parisien et un Londonien, à ton avis lequel de ces derniers aura le plus de chances de comprendre la plaisanterie ?
Ta conclusion est peut-être un peu hâtive... et il est réellement dommage que tu réduises tout ce qui s'est dit à une opposition binaire et sans nuances.
Ah bin! c'est comme chez les franchouillards, y'a aussi des nuances à l'intérieur de chacune des sensibilités que j'ai cité ...😉
Ah bin! c'est comme chez les franchouillards, y'a aussi des nuances à l'intérieur de chacune des sensibilités que j'ai cité ...😉
On voit à quoi se résume la culture populaire française...😉
Oui, on peut bien sûr le prendre en plaisantant. Mais cet exemple de la blague uniquement comprise par ceux qui partagent la culture locale est je crois universel, et significatif.
Je crois d'ailleurs que tous ceux qui voyagent ont été confrontés à cette situation.
Oui, on peut bien sûr le prendre en plaisantant. Mais cet exemple de la blague uniquement comprise par ceux qui partagent la culture locale est je crois universel, et significatif.
Je crois d'ailleurs que tous ceux qui voyagent ont été confrontés à cette situation.
Je suis cette fois d'accord avec Dumul', Simon et Mariecurry sur cette question car ils parlent d'enracinement et de différences culturelles des individus comme d'une chose naturelle .. ce sont pour moi des évidences ...
Salut Willyboy, 😉
La pluriculturalité se vit tous les jours quand papa et maman viennent de pays différents. Tout simplement.
Salut Willyboy, 😉
La pluriculturalité se vit tous les jours quand papa et maman viennent de pays différents. Tout simplement.
Je mange marocain, sans fromages importés et sans halouf, je dors comme partout ailleurs, je ne bois pas de thé à la menthe, je me soigne comme les gens ici ayant les moyens de le faire, pour le reste cela fait partie du domaine privé...
Hello Tafa😉
Bin justement, si tu pouvais nous livrer quelques confidences et détails croustillants dans ce domaine, ça pourrait pimenter la discussion de bon matin😊😛
Hello Tafa😉
Bin justement, si tu pouvais nous livrer quelques confidences et détails croustillants dans ce domaine, ça pourrait pimenter la discussion de bon matin😊😛
Je ne voudrais pas passer pour quelqu'un de "rabat-joie" ou de particulièrement rancunier (quoique ?!), mais de nombreuses réponses à tes interrogations auraient pu t'être données sous cette même rubrique par des "Expats", sur cette intéressante et récente discussion:
"Expats et voyageurs de passage ont-ils la même vision des choses"
Discussion que tu as fortement et bien malheureusement contribué à faire verrouiller par la modération !!!
C'est ti pas ballot ça ! Non ???
Décidément, oh toi Grand Pélicanbrun! et d'autres vous m'en voulez à mort de la fermeture de cette discussion!!!😕😉 ... mais je n'y suis pas pour grand chose! Sur les conquistadors et le prétendu génocide des indiens, je n'ai fait que reprendre fort modestement des thèses développées par d'éminents historiens comme Pierre Chaunu, Jean Sévillia ou Emmanuel Leroy Ladurie ... le plus cocasse dans ce topic c'est que celui qui brandissait le plus l'Inquisition comme l'horreur absolue a fini par demander mon éviction du forum en des termes qui auraient pu inspirer le regretté Torquemada (message effacé depuis réf "6e juré") ... Je ne savais pas que les historiens que je cite plus haut étaient censurés à ce point chez les gentils expats/voyageurs? Fin de l'aparté. Wil éleveur de poussins😎
"Expats et voyageurs de passage ont-ils la même vision des choses"
Discussion que tu as fortement et bien malheureusement contribué à faire verrouiller par la modération !!!
C'est ti pas ballot ça ! Non ???
Décidément, oh toi Grand Pélicanbrun! et d'autres vous m'en voulez à mort de la fermeture de cette discussion!!!😕😉 ... mais je n'y suis pas pour grand chose! Sur les conquistadors et le prétendu génocide des indiens, je n'ai fait que reprendre fort modestement des thèses développées par d'éminents historiens comme Pierre Chaunu, Jean Sévillia ou Emmanuel Leroy Ladurie ... le plus cocasse dans ce topic c'est que celui qui brandissait le plus l'Inquisition comme l'horreur absolue a fini par demander mon éviction du forum en des termes qui auraient pu inspirer le regretté Torquemada (message effacé depuis réf "6e juré") ... Je ne savais pas que les historiens que je cite plus haut étaient censurés à ce point chez les gentils expats/voyageurs? Fin de l'aparté. Wil éleveur de poussins😎
" Oui, on peut bien sûr le prendre en plaisantant. Mais cet exemple de la blague uniquement comprise par ceux qui partagent la culture locale est je crois universel, et significatif. "
Tu confonds significatif et insignifiant, je crois ...
Tu ne peux tout de même pas sérieusement vouloir tirer à tout prix de cet exemple anecdotique (même universel !) la démonstration de ta théorie d'une plus grande proximité culturelle, si tant est qu'elle soit réelle, de notre parisien urbain avec son homoloque guérétois qu'avec son confrère londonien !
Ta citation d'une pseudo "définition" de la culture française était déjà hors jeu puisqu'elle ne faisait qu'expliquer sans rien définir ... et on peut aussi avoir raison et savoir convaincre ou tempérer (tu le montres régulièrement) sans faire appel à la pachydermique (que chat 😉) percussion des certitudes et des évidences, non ? 🙂
Tu confonds significatif et insignifiant, je crois ...
Tu ne peux tout de même pas sérieusement vouloir tirer à tout prix de cet exemple anecdotique (même universel !) la démonstration de ta théorie d'une plus grande proximité culturelle, si tant est qu'elle soit réelle, de notre parisien urbain avec son homoloque guérétois qu'avec son confrère londonien !
Ta citation d'une pseudo "définition" de la culture française était déjà hors jeu puisqu'elle ne faisait qu'expliquer sans rien définir ... et on peut aussi avoir raison et savoir convaincre ou tempérer (tu le montres régulièrement) sans faire appel à la pachydermique (que chat 😉) percussion des certitudes et des évidences, non ? 🙂
Sur la forme :
Je que j'apprécie tout particulièrement chez toi, mon cher Smeagol, c'est qu'à défaut de proposer quoi que ce soit de constructif, tu emploies toute ton énergie à démolir ce que disent les autres. C'est évidemment beaucoup plus simple...
Pour ma part, je préfère chercher à comprendre, au risque de me tromper.
Sur le fond :
Ne t'en déplaise, il ne me semble pas que mon exemple de la blague soit si insignifiant que cela, même au regard de l'incomparable culture élitiste partagée par les seuls Parisiens et Londoniens. Cet exemple met au moins en évidence que certaines formes de pensée, aussi triviales et anecdotiques te semblent-elles, ne peuvent être comprises que par ceux qui partagent la même culture.
Par ailleurs, je connais bon nombre de Parisiens qui ne possèdent pas un niveau d'anglais suffisant pour vérifier leur "proximité culturelle" avec leurs "confrères londoniens", et qui auront sans doute plus de chances d'établir une communication avec leurs si ruraux "homologues guérétois".
Tu sais, il existe parfois aussi des certitudes et des évidences qui ne sont pas contestables...
Je que j'apprécie tout particulièrement chez toi, mon cher Smeagol, c'est qu'à défaut de proposer quoi que ce soit de constructif, tu emploies toute ton énergie à démolir ce que disent les autres. C'est évidemment beaucoup plus simple...
Pour ma part, je préfère chercher à comprendre, au risque de me tromper.
Sur le fond :
Ne t'en déplaise, il ne me semble pas que mon exemple de la blague soit si insignifiant que cela, même au regard de l'incomparable culture élitiste partagée par les seuls Parisiens et Londoniens. Cet exemple met au moins en évidence que certaines formes de pensée, aussi triviales et anecdotiques te semblent-elles, ne peuvent être comprises que par ceux qui partagent la même culture.
Par ailleurs, je connais bon nombre de Parisiens qui ne possèdent pas un niveau d'anglais suffisant pour vérifier leur "proximité culturelle" avec leurs "confrères londoniens", et qui auront sans doute plus de chances d'établir une communication avec leurs si ruraux "homologues guérétois".
Tu sais, il existe parfois aussi des certitudes et des évidences qui ne sont pas contestables...
Tu sais, il existe parfois aussi des certitudes et des évidences qui ne sont pas contestables
Vous ne discutez pas, vous assenez. Des lors, le debat est clos.
Vous ne discutez pas, vous assenez. Des lors, le debat est clos.
Qui veut chasser une migraine n'a qu'à boire toujours du bon
Non non, pas avant que tu aies apporté la preuve que la culture française (ou autre) est une chimère et une vue de l'esprit... 😉
On ne démontre pas l'inexistence de Dieu mais on essaie de démontrer son existence. Il en va de même ici : tant qu'on ne m'aura pas dit ce qui caractérise spécifiquement la culture française et qui, par définition donc, concerne l'intégralité de la population sur l'intégralité du territoire, je ne pourrais que considérer qu'il y a confusion des genres entre identité nationale et culture.
William a parlé de millefeuille : même si ce n'est sans doute pas le sens qu'il voulait appliquer, je trouve la métaphore heureuse. Il y a en France une foultitude de faits culturels qui se recoupent, se superposent, s'influencent. Mais aucun qui soit total du point de vue territorial ou de la population.
En revanche, on peut sans doute parler d'aire culturelle française, ça oui, caractérisée par certains éléments comme l'usage du français etc. Mais dans ce cas, on s'est débarassé des frontières nationales. CQFD.
On ne démontre pas l'inexistence de Dieu mais on essaie de démontrer son existence. Il en va de même ici : tant qu'on ne m'aura pas dit ce qui caractérise spécifiquement la culture française et qui, par définition donc, concerne l'intégralité de la population sur l'intégralité du territoire, je ne pourrais que considérer qu'il y a confusion des genres entre identité nationale et culture.
William a parlé de millefeuille : même si ce n'est sans doute pas le sens qu'il voulait appliquer, je trouve la métaphore heureuse. Il y a en France une foultitude de faits culturels qui se recoupent, se superposent, s'influencent. Mais aucun qui soit total du point de vue territorial ou de la population.
En revanche, on peut sans doute parler d'aire culturelle française, ça oui, caractérisée par certains éléments comme l'usage du français etc. Mais dans ce cas, on s'est débarassé des frontières nationales. CQFD.
Qui veut chasser une migraine n'a qu'à boire toujours du bon
En revanche, on peut sans doute parler d'aire culturelle française, ça oui, caractérisée par certains éléments comme l'usage du français etc. Mais dans ce cas, on s'est débarassé des frontières nationales.
Et comment définirais-tu cette aire culturelle française, quels en seraient les principaux éléments, en dehors de l'usage du français ? Y inclus-tu des pays d'expression française comme la Belgique et la Suisse, mais aussi certains États africains ou la province du Québec ?
Et comment définirais-tu cette aire culturelle française, quels en seraient les principaux éléments, en dehors de l'usage du français ? Y inclus-tu des pays d'expression française comme la Belgique et la Suisse, mais aussi certains États africains ou la province du Québec ?
Par ailleurs, je connais bon nombre de Parisiens qui ne possèdent pas un niveau d'anglais suffisant pour vérifier leur "proximité culturelle" avec leurs "confrères londoniens", et qui auront sans doute plus de chances d'établir une communication avec leurs si ruraux "homologues guérétois".
Il existe certainement plus de Parisiens qui ne connaissent pas l'environnement local et le parler de Gueret que de Parisiens qui ne connaissent l'Anglais et la famille royale.
Ainsi, pour prendre l'exemple de ma modeste personne, j'ai eu parfois bien du mal à comprendre ce que me disait certains Auvergnats n'ayant pas les éléments de la "culture" locale ni la connaissance du français employé dans cette région.🤪
Il existe certainement plus de Parisiens qui ne connaissent pas l'environnement local et le parler de Gueret que de Parisiens qui ne connaissent l'Anglais et la famille royale.
Ainsi, pour prendre l'exemple de ma modeste personne, j'ai eu parfois bien du mal à comprendre ce que me disait certains Auvergnats n'ayant pas les éléments de la "culture" locale ni la connaissance du français employé dans cette région.🤪
... Toi non plus tu chais pas où ch'est Alégia, alors ? 🤪 

Toi non plus tu chais pas où ch'est Alégia, alors ? 🤪 
Tss tss😉

Tss tss😉
Bonjour
Il existe certainement plus de Parisiens qui ne connaissent pas l'environnement local et le parler de Gueret que de Parisiens qui ne connaissent l'Anglais et la famille royale.
???
Je me demande parfois si nous vivons dans le même pays. 🤪
Pour mon boulot, je me rends régulièrement à Guéret (préfecture du département de la Creuse).
Je t'assure qu'on y parle le français, ni mieux ni moins bien qu'ailleurs. Je t'assure qu'il y a aussi à Guéret des écoles où l'on enseigne le français, des librairies qui vendent des livres en français, des radios nationales ou locales qui s'expriment en français. Et je n'ai jamais eu de problème particulier pour comprendre un Guérétois, ou me faire comprendre.
Pour ce qui est de l'environnement local, la ville est certes petite, mais elle ne diffère pas énormément de petites cités de la région parisienne.
Enfin, nous ne devons pas non plus connaître le même Paris... Imagines-tu vraiment que la majorité des Parisiens maîtrise la langue anglaise ?
Il existe certainement plus de Parisiens qui ne connaissent pas l'environnement local et le parler de Gueret que de Parisiens qui ne connaissent l'Anglais et la famille royale.
???
Je me demande parfois si nous vivons dans le même pays. 🤪
Pour mon boulot, je me rends régulièrement à Guéret (préfecture du département de la Creuse).
Je t'assure qu'on y parle le français, ni mieux ni moins bien qu'ailleurs. Je t'assure qu'il y a aussi à Guéret des écoles où l'on enseigne le français, des librairies qui vendent des livres en français, des radios nationales ou locales qui s'expriment en français. Et je n'ai jamais eu de problème particulier pour comprendre un Guérétois, ou me faire comprendre.
Pour ce qui est de l'environnement local, la ville est certes petite, mais elle ne diffère pas énormément de petites cités de la région parisienne.
Enfin, nous ne devons pas non plus connaître le même Paris... Imagines-tu vraiment que la majorité des Parisiens maîtrise la langue anglaise ?
Bon alors... Astérix.
Référence culturelle Française ou universelle ?
Pour mon boulot, je me rends régulièrement à Guéret
Tu n'y vis pas voilà la différence....
Quand tu changes de région (donc pour y vivre pas pour y passer....), tu dois te réadapter à ton nouvel environnement et aux subtiles différences de langage.
Tu passes vite pour un "parisien" quand tu ne sais pas que tel ou tel mot désigne telle ou telle chose et on te regarde bizarrement quand tu demandes "mais c'est où ça ?" tout simplement parce que les gens continuent à désigner tel ou tel lieu par son appelation d'il y a 50 ans et que ta carte Michelin indique un tout autre nom....
Prends juste le mot "baguette". Aux 4 coins de la France, si tu demandes une baguette dans une boulangerie, tu n'obtiendras pas le même pain.
Quoi de plus typée "culture française" qu'une baguette pourtant ?
Imagines-tu vraiment que la majorité des Parisiens maîtrise la langue anglaise ?
Non, mais la plupart ont lu "Astérix chez les Bretons" et avec l'Eurostar il est plus facile de rejoindre Londres que Guéret....
Tu n'y vis pas voilà la différence....
Quand tu changes de région (donc pour y vivre pas pour y passer....), tu dois te réadapter à ton nouvel environnement et aux subtiles différences de langage.
Tu passes vite pour un "parisien" quand tu ne sais pas que tel ou tel mot désigne telle ou telle chose et on te regarde bizarrement quand tu demandes "mais c'est où ça ?" tout simplement parce que les gens continuent à désigner tel ou tel lieu par son appelation d'il y a 50 ans et que ta carte Michelin indique un tout autre nom....
Prends juste le mot "baguette". Aux 4 coins de la France, si tu demandes une baguette dans une boulangerie, tu n'obtiendras pas le même pain.
Quoi de plus typée "culture française" qu'une baguette pourtant ?
Imagines-tu vraiment que la majorité des Parisiens maîtrise la langue anglaise ?
Non, mais la plupart ont lu "Astérix chez les Bretons" et avec l'Eurostar il est plus facile de rejoindre Londres que Guéret....
Astérix. Référence culturelle Française ou universelle ?
Universelle enfin presque😄
J'ai même vu des petits Indiens lire ses aventures ...
Et puis Astérix n'est pas Français mais Gaulois ce qui n'est pas totalement la même chose quoiqu'en disent nos vieux livres d'histoire....
Universelle enfin presque😄
J'ai même vu des petits Indiens lire ses aventures ...
Et puis Astérix n'est pas Français mais Gaulois ce qui n'est pas totalement la même chose quoiqu'en disent nos vieux livres d'histoire....
Tu n'y vis pas voilà la différence....
Oui, mais ce n'est pas ce que tu as dit. Tu as prétendu que de nombreux Parisiens étaient incapables de comprendre - je te cite - le parler de Guéret.
Non, mais la plupart ont lu "Astérix chez les Bretons" et avec l'Eurostar il est plus facile de rejoindre Londres que Guéret....
Alors je suppose que "Astérix chez les Bretons" est le sésame qui ouvre toutes les portes de la civilisation britannique... Et je suppose aussi, à te lire, qu'une discussion entre un Parisien ignorant l'anglais et un Londonien ignorant le français doit être culturellement très enrichissante !
Oui, mais ce n'est pas ce que tu as dit. Tu as prétendu que de nombreux Parisiens étaient incapables de comprendre - je te cite - le parler de Guéret.
Non, mais la plupart ont lu "Astérix chez les Bretons" et avec l'Eurostar il est plus facile de rejoindre Londres que Guéret....
Alors je suppose que "Astérix chez les Bretons" est le sésame qui ouvre toutes les portes de la civilisation britannique... Et je suppose aussi, à te lire, qu'une discussion entre un Parisien ignorant l'anglais et un Londonien ignorant le français doit être culturellement très enrichissante !
Tu as prétendu que de nombreux Parisiens étaient incapables de comprendre le parler guérétois.
Jacques Chirac a bien fait une blague de Corrézien qui n'a pas été comprise par les journalistes parisiens....
Alors je suppose que "Astérix chez les Bretons" est le sésame qui ouvre toutes les portes de la civilisation britannique...
C'est un bon début 😄
Sous-estimerais tu Goscinny ?
Et je suppose qu'une discussion entre un Parisien ignorant l'anglais et un Londonien ignorant le français doit être culturellement très enrichissante !
Nombre de voyageurs (ou touristes ou touristes-voyageurs😉) disent pourtant avoir beaucoup appris de leur rencontre avec un autrui dont ils ne comprenaient pas la langue.............
Jacques Chirac a bien fait une blague de Corrézien qui n'a pas été comprise par les journalistes parisiens....
Alors je suppose que "Astérix chez les Bretons" est le sésame qui ouvre toutes les portes de la civilisation britannique...
C'est un bon début 😄
Sous-estimerais tu Goscinny ?
Et je suppose qu'une discussion entre un Parisien ignorant l'anglais et un Londonien ignorant le français doit être culturellement très enrichissante !
Nombre de voyageurs (ou touristes ou touristes-voyageurs😉) disent pourtant avoir beaucoup appris de leur rencontre avec un autrui dont ils ne comprenaient pas la langue.............
Nombre de voyageurs disent pourtant avoir beaucoup appris de leur rencontre avec un autrui dont ils ne comprenaient pas la langue.............
Oui, mais ils ne prétendent pas appartenir à la même culture...
(ou touristes ou touristes-voyageurs😉)
J'ai retrouvé ce matin une citation de Mlle de Girardin, souvent attribuée à tort à Théodore Monod :
Voyager, c'est promener son rêve.
Vu de cette façon-là, le voyage me semble différer quelque peu du tourisme...
Oui, mais ils ne prétendent pas appartenir à la même culture...
(ou touristes ou touristes-voyageurs😉)
J'ai retrouvé ce matin une citation de Mlle de Girardin, souvent attribuée à tort à Théodore Monod :
Voyager, c'est promener son rêve.
Vu de cette façon-là, le voyage me semble différer quelque peu du tourisme...
Oui, mais ils ne prétendent pas appartenir à la même culture...
On se le demande parfois surtout dans la partie Inde de ce forum....
Vu de cette façon-là, le voyage me semble différer quelque peu du tourisme...
Un touriste réalise pourtant souvent son rêve.
Mais je te concède que réaliser et promener ne sont pas les mêmes notions.......😉
On se le demande parfois surtout dans la partie Inde de ce forum....
Vu de cette façon-là, le voyage me semble différer quelque peu du tourisme...
Un touriste réalise pourtant souvent son rêve.
Mais je te concède que réaliser et promener ne sont pas les mêmes notions.......😉
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Good evening everyone,
This is my 15,000th post, and it's a message I would have preferred never to write.
Patrick—Yangguizi—won’t be returning from his trek in Uganda. His health betrayed him in the mountains.
Like many of you, I laughed until I couldn’t anymore at his travel stories. I met him in Shanghai, then in Istanbul... We scoured restaurants—he was an incredible expert on world cuisines. We relived Korea, China. Always brilliant, so sharp, so funny, so down-to-earth. Being even a little bit his friend was something to be proud of. I think I envied him.
Patrick is still out there, of course... He found his happiness running across the world. He’s on his path. He never doubted that "the traveler doesn’t even know if he’ll return one day."
Not sure this would’ve suited him, but his departure devastates me.
Alright, Farewell, you foreign devil. Safe travels.
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This is my 15,000th post, and it's a message I would have preferred never to write.
Patrick—Yangguizi—won’t be returning from his trek in Uganda. His health betrayed him in the mountains.
Like many of you, I laughed until I couldn’t anymore at his travel stories. I met him in Shanghai, then in Istanbul... We scoured restaurants—he was an incredible expert on world cuisines. We relived Korea, China. Always brilliant, so sharp, so funny, so down-to-earth. Being even a little bit his friend was something to be proud of. I think I envied him.
Patrick is still out there, of course... He found his happiness running across the world. He’s on his path. He never doubted that "the traveler doesn’t even know if he’ll return one day."
Not sure this would’ve suited him, but his departure devastates me.
Alright, Farewell, you foreign devil. Safe travels.
Michel
hello to all travelers with their eyes wide open to the desert...
I’ve always wondered what I was "doing" on this earth. And why my father, who died a few months after I was born—a former youngest French resistance fighter—joined the First Saharan Motorized Company in Atar and spent the rest of his life repairing army engines in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali (which didn’t exist under that name back then), Morocco, and finally Algeria, where my mother was born and raised. (Believe me, it’s not "cool" being the child of a soldier in a country occupied by France, and even less so the child of a "pied-noir.") Of course, I never got an answer: the dead don’t talk, and the army doesn’t either. But here’s the thing—I had photos... So naturally, one day I hit the road. I wanted to see, to understand. It’s thanks to VF that I was able to do a little research on crossing the Morocco-Mauritania border, and I’m grateful to its members, just as I’m grateful to all those who welcomed me on the road for 14 years. For the past few weeks, I’ve been wondering if I should talk about this or not... It turns out the Mauritanians changed my life by asking for my help... And that started as early as February 2012... (Did I owe them something? No answer to that question.) Ah, the irony—they saw me coming. But when you’re handed sick children and begged to do something, what would you have done? I’d worked in a hospital, so I knew a bit about the rules to follow. I didn’t hesitate. And well, over all these years, I met doctors, surgeons, and together we organized care, evacuations of children, training for surgeons—even trying to stop children from having to travel outside their country. It was never easy. I’d like to thank those who supported us, as well as *La Chaîne de l’Espoir*, *La Fondation Face au Monde*, and everyone who built bridges between our two countries. Unfortunately, despite the constant efforts of Mauritanian doctors and surgeons, some children couldn’t be helped in time. Today, I want to talk about four siblings—orphans of their mother—suffering from congenital glaucoma causing irreversible blindness. Their case was entrusted to me in 2020, just weeks before the big lockdown. We couldn’t do anything for them then, but when their father asked me for a gift, I rushed to my computer and wrote a story. Through a tale, the children take a great journey, explore their country, and fulfill a dream. I never thought this book would be published—it was, in 2023. This book pays tribute to Mauritania. It’s a message for those who know nothing about the hardships of life there, carrying both the harshness and beauty of an immense desert where you can travel by 4x4, bike, on foot, or by camel in complete safety. It bears witness to the kindness of Mauritanians toward travelers. As a woman traveling alone in my vehicle—a now-rusted old Mercedes that no longer runs—I had the most beautiful encounters of my life there (I’ve seen other parts of the world...). The blind children of Choum, Atar, Nouadhibou, and Nouakchott will forever be in my heart. Volunteer readers transcribed the book into a free audio version for the visually impaired. It’s available in sound libraries in France, the *Fondation Valentin Haüy*, and the Swiss Romande library. I made my last trip to Mauritania in my old 4x4 to distribute the book everywhere, especially to its heroes and the school for the visually impaired in Nouakchott. After that, I thought it was time to close the chapter because I no longer have the means or the strength to travel. My publishers chose this title for it: *The Blue Eyes of the Desert*. This publication helped a mission of Swiss volunteer ophthalmologists come to operate on glaucomas in Mauritania. I’m thrilled because they come back every year! This adventure is ending, yes—everything must come to an end—but ultimately, it was born here, on the VF site!! So yes, I had to say it: THANK YOU!!!!!
I’ve always wondered what I was "doing" on this earth. And why my father, who died a few months after I was born—a former youngest French resistance fighter—joined the First Saharan Motorized Company in Atar and spent the rest of his life repairing army engines in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali (which didn’t exist under that name back then), Morocco, and finally Algeria, where my mother was born and raised. (Believe me, it’s not "cool" being the child of a soldier in a country occupied by France, and even less so the child of a "pied-noir.") Of course, I never got an answer: the dead don’t talk, and the army doesn’t either. But here’s the thing—I had photos... So naturally, one day I hit the road. I wanted to see, to understand. It’s thanks to VF that I was able to do a little research on crossing the Morocco-Mauritania border, and I’m grateful to its members, just as I’m grateful to all those who welcomed me on the road for 14 years. For the past few weeks, I’ve been wondering if I should talk about this or not... It turns out the Mauritanians changed my life by asking for my help... And that started as early as February 2012... (Did I owe them something? No answer to that question.) Ah, the irony—they saw me coming. But when you’re handed sick children and begged to do something, what would you have done? I’d worked in a hospital, so I knew a bit about the rules to follow. I didn’t hesitate. And well, over all these years, I met doctors, surgeons, and together we organized care, evacuations of children, training for surgeons—even trying to stop children from having to travel outside their country. It was never easy. I’d like to thank those who supported us, as well as *La Chaîne de l’Espoir*, *La Fondation Face au Monde*, and everyone who built bridges between our two countries. Unfortunately, despite the constant efforts of Mauritanian doctors and surgeons, some children couldn’t be helped in time. Today, I want to talk about four siblings—orphans of their mother—suffering from congenital glaucoma causing irreversible blindness. Their case was entrusted to me in 2020, just weeks before the big lockdown. We couldn’t do anything for them then, but when their father asked me for a gift, I rushed to my computer and wrote a story. Through a tale, the children take a great journey, explore their country, and fulfill a dream. I never thought this book would be published—it was, in 2023. This book pays tribute to Mauritania. It’s a message for those who know nothing about the hardships of life there, carrying both the harshness and beauty of an immense desert where you can travel by 4x4, bike, on foot, or by camel in complete safety. It bears witness to the kindness of Mauritanians toward travelers. As a woman traveling alone in my vehicle—a now-rusted old Mercedes that no longer runs—I had the most beautiful encounters of my life there (I’ve seen other parts of the world...). The blind children of Choum, Atar, Nouadhibou, and Nouakchott will forever be in my heart. Volunteer readers transcribed the book into a free audio version for the visually impaired. It’s available in sound libraries in France, the *Fondation Valentin Haüy*, and the Swiss Romande library. I made my last trip to Mauritania in my old 4x4 to distribute the book everywhere, especially to its heroes and the school for the visually impaired in Nouakchott. After that, I thought it was time to close the chapter because I no longer have the means or the strength to travel. My publishers chose this title for it: *The Blue Eyes of the Desert*. This publication helped a mission of Swiss volunteer ophthalmologists come to operate on glaucomas in Mauritania. I’m thrilled because they come back every year! This adventure is ending, yes—everything must come to an end—but ultimately, it was born here, on the VF site!! So yes, I had to say it: THANK YOU!!!!!
Hi everyone,
I’m Loulou, a French expat who’s been living in Southeast Asia for about fifteen years, currently in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. A passionate walker at heart, I’ve trekked in Nepal (Thorung La, Mardi Himal), India, Vietnam, and I’m still planning new hikes (Char Dham, Langtang, Annapurna).
I’ve just published my first travel journal, recounting three months of walking and encounters across India. A portion of the sales goes to an educational center I support in Kep, for children whose parents work in the salt marshes.
I’m also working on a second book about Nepal with a musician friend, focusing on the Mardi Himal trek—two independent perspectives on the same journey.
Happy to swap stories with you about the Himalayas, India, Southeast Asia, or just the urge to hit the road and walk far from home.
Safe travels,
Loulou
Hi! It was totally by chance that I stumbled upon VoyageForum (an ad online and a story lol), and I’ve been reading some really old posts from 2011 about Thai massage schools—discussions on how to get by, accommodation, prices, etc. It reminded me of my own experience: I kept things simple by staying with a local family during my entire trip. I only shared all the expenses with them, which, I’ll admit, was super cheap… and I often traveled with them, which naturally opened a lot of doors for me. To start, at the school in Salaya, my Thai friend immediately connected me with Teacher Phong (the school’s mentor and teacher of teachers, a former monk). I was supposed to join a group session with other foreigners, but for some reason I don’t know, I got two days of private lessons for free with this expert… incredible! And on top of that, he loved France! It was an amazing experience. I "discovered" massage by chance—the Thai family just told me: "Try it, you’ll see!" (I’d had a pretty intense massage in the capital before 😅… but the next day, I felt unbelievably great!))
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
"It seems to me that poverty would be less painful in the sun" wrote Aznavour...
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Hi everyone, just this once I’m not posting for a travel story, but to share a thought for Venezuela.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
hi there
I’d like to invite you to discover my coastal province in central Vietnam: Quang Ngai.
This year, my province has really improved its infrastructure—mountains, countryside, and sea are all authentic here.
No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
A local lunch costs around 1 €.
A *** hotel room is about 25 €, and you can find hotels right on My Khe Beach.
We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
I live here—I’m not selling anything, but I can help if needed (my father-in-law is a traditional Vietnamese doctor and he’s very skilled).
We're planning to spend a month in Vietnam. Is hiring a guide helpful?
Hi everyone! 😉
I’m Typhaine, 35 years old. Five years ago, I left France for a solo round-the-world trip—no planes, just a van, hitchhiking, cycling, and even a canoe in the Amazon! Today, I work as a naturalist guide in Argentine Patagonia.
Wherever I go, my compass stays the same: observing and photographing wildlife, which I deeply admire and respect.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
Hello everyone,
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

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It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Hello everyone,
I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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.Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
Hello 🙂
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hi there,
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,

Hello to all East Africa lovers and nature enthusiasts in general,
While I prepare to share a recap of our latest trip/safari in Kenya soon, I’d like to wish you all a peaceful transition between 2025 and 2026.
Warm regards,
Puma2A.





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We’re a couple aged 58 and 63. We’ve just returned from a wonderful trip to South India in Tamil Nadu and a few days in Kerala. We traveled with a local French-speaking guide and his friend, the driver. They both live in Pondicherry. We spent 3 weeks with them in the most authentic way!
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean