Mice in Switzerland, the Other Cheese Country!
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
In December it's too cold 🐭
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Well, change of plans—at least partially...

My partner has a piece of tooth breaking off, urgent dentist appointment in France tomorrow...

But that doesn’t stop us from visiting the museum during the evening opening.

He’ll need an early night, so we’ll have to head back sooner...
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
The dentist canceled, and there’s no available appointment between Lyon and Strasbourg for quite some time. It really shows how much of a medical desert France is becoming 😐

Yesterday, between showers, we still managed to visit the old town, the park with the Reformation Wall, the Tavel House, the cathedral and its chapel, and then my Russian church 🐭



We ended up on the quays during the blue hour before grabbing a bite at McDonald’s 🍟

Actually, I’d already been to Geneva once 15 years ago. Back then, I mostly saw the shores of Lake Geneva and the botanical garden. I’d also wandered through the shopping streets, which I found kinda ugly. The old town has made me like Geneva a bit more, even if it’s not huge. Though it’s still not my favorite city.

Originally, we wanted to visit the Patek Museum, but there was a line to get in! Didn’t feel like touring with a crowd pressed against the display cases, so we left...
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KU Kurtinet Regular ·
Actually, it's the Reformers' Wall...

A Swiss dentist can at least patch the hole with resin, then we'll see later in France.

Missed it last night, the mouse... 😉 https://www.lematin.ch/story/athletissima-le-nombre-fou-de-morceaux-de-gruyere-distribues-a-la-pontaise-103400921
MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Yeah, it was the spell-checker that messed me up 🤦‍♂️

The dentist in Switzerland is gonna cost an arm and a leg. Anyway, with the weather like this, we’re not staying. I’m also kinda over staying with people at this point.

Cheese for him: 🙃
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Our trip to Switzerland has come to an end.

We returned to Geneva to see the Broken Chair. It started raining quite a bit, so we took a quick detour to the Ariana Museum!

We made a little detour to see the Grottes district and its unique architecture, then spent some time in traffic to reach the Museum of Art and History.

We explored the whole place. It was okay, but the building is old and not very well maintained... There was a party at the museum café, and we could hear the music everywhere—it was pretty annoying.

For our last day, my partner wanted to rest. Driving two days in a row to Geneva with all the traffic was enough for him.

We just took a stroll through the village of Moudon—cute but nothing extraordinary... Had a drink on the terrace and did some shopping, especially to stock up on cheese and chocolate!

One last fondue for the road (from the store, to enjoy at the apartment) and that’s it.

We’re currently in Besançon for a stopover before heading home.
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MA Manondugard Regular ·
Hello everyone, A little detour from your super interesting topic. I’m planning to go back to German-speaking Switzerland—a real love at first sight for its landscapes and some restaurants that aren’t exactly diet-friendly but are an absolute treat. I’d also like to point out how strict they are about speeding in cars—they don’t mess around with the rules. When I got back to France, I had the unpleasant surprise of receiving two fines I had to pay because Switzerland has an agreement with France. If you don’t want the police showing up at your door, you pay quickly (especially if you plan to go back, because unpaid fines can mean a few days in prison—I think that’s going overboard). On Geneva’s ring road, there’s a spot where two municipalities meet, and there are speed cameras just two minutes apart (one in each municipality). I got caught by both, and it hurts after spending time in a country that’s so expensive for us French. For going just 8 km/h over the speed limit, it cost me 120 CHF (128 €). And even worse, two minutes earlier, another camera caught me going 3 km/h over the limit—a 40 CHF (43 €) fine for 3 km/h over. I think that’s really excessive on a four-lane road. So, if this can help other travelers, just know that in this country, they don’t joke around with driving mistakes. Have a great weekend, everyone! 😊
Christine
BL Bluequark Veteran ·
Hi there,

This travel journal is really great. I love all the little tips you—and the other contributors—share. I also really appreciate your website, which I use regularly. Thanks for sharing (and for all the work you put into it).

Switzerland is a beautiful country. We went there last summer and then returned to Basel at All Saints' Day. Too bad it’s so expensive.
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Thanks to the latest contributors!

Yes, the Alps have tons of speed cameras, sometimes right after the speed limit sign. My husband has a detector that seems to work well.

I hope so, because the car is in my name and I don’t want to get any fines 😅

Prices are high, but when you look at Swiss salaries, they actually seem more in line with purchasing power compared to France.

It’s not uncommon to find meals for 20-25 € in France now, which is expensive relative to salaries.

True, pizzas in France aren’t at 25-30 € yet. And in Swiss restaurants, the price of meat is wild—beef dishes easily hit 50 CHF... Rarely any set menus, everything’s à la carte. But since the portions are filling, one dish is often enough 😅

A little side note: I didn’t find the menus very varied! Always a bit of the same thing, or burgers and pizzas. It felt repetitive. Though I didn’t check out Michelin restaurant menus. There was a lack of veggies. Luckily, we could also eat in our accommodations.

A few random thoughts after a month in Switzerland!

- Between French-speaking and German-speaking Switzerland, I sometimes felt like I was visiting two different countries... Different architecture (depends on the canton), language... The only common ground is the prices.

But when we went from the north (Schaffhausen, Stein am Rhein) to Lausanne, there were few similarities. That’s a bit less true for central Switzerland.

- Visiting French-speaking Switzerland sometimes felt odd as a French person. At times, it just felt like visiting another French region, but a few details reminded me I was in another country. It’s a bit like the Walloon border.

- Overall, I preferred the cities in German-speaking Switzerland—they felt more colorful (Bern being an exception, and I didn’t make it to Zürich).

- We found the Swiss generally friendly. I’m used to Eastern European countries where the welcome is a bit different, so I’m rarely shocked. But we had some great conversations.

Switzerland is a beautiful country with stunning landscapes, cities, and villages... It’s not a stressful place, it’s clean and safe, so it’s really enjoyable!

During this trip, I got to see a bit of everything: mid-sized cities, villages, lakes with different urbanization styles, natural sites, museums, vineyards, and a bit of the mountains.

What I missed most were the summits and viewpoints, and mountain lakes. Guess I’ll have to come back...

Since I’d only been to Geneva before, this was all new to me!

My favorites: Lucerne, all the lakeside spots, Gruyères, Stein am Rhein, and the Rhine Falls.
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Oh, I forgot... The Swiss specialties were a hit with the mice too 🐭

We tried fondues, of course—once at a restaurant and then bought some at the supermarket 🧀 For me, this kind of dish is pure gastronomic bliss 😇

Cordon bleu is good, and it’s rare to find it in restaurants in France, except in Alsace. The one we had in Fribourg, with Fribourg vacherin cheese, was amazing!

Rösti is pretty good, even if it’s heavy (the one in Brienz, with raclette, was really tasty!), and I tried *croûte au fromage*—which I didn’t know before—and it was pretty good too!

Didn’t try the sausage dishes or *émincé à la zurichoise*.

We did eat Asian food now and then for a change, and some pizzas, but they’re better in France 😋

I tried lake fish in breadcrumbs once. Not bad either.

I’d have thought there’d be more fish on the menus, not just breaded (trout, Arctic char...). But given the prices for even the simplest fish or meat, ouch!

And of course, all the cheese you can find in supermarkets 😇
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MA Manondugard Regular ·
I also preferred what they call "German" Switzerland for the architecture, the game dishes, and I love their accent. Since I often travel alone, I got closer to the locals and learned that the Swiss Romands don’t really like the others, and vice versa. I also found out that some German Swiss understand French and can speak it, but sometimes they pretend not to understand or don’t want to reply in French 🤪 A bit like some older Alsatians 😏
Christine
MA Manondugard Regular ·
Others are fighting the opposite battle. The same goes for France, where some regions have many schools teaching in regional languages, and lots of young couples bring their kids there.
Christine
RU Rudovfer Regular ·
Didn’t try the sausage dishes or the Zurich-style sliced veal.

How come you didn’t try the Zurich-style sliced veal? Major faux pas... 🙂😛

When you go to Zurich, head to Zeughauskeller, Zeughauskeller Zürich - Hearty traditional dishes :: Wienerschnitzel, Cordon Bleu, Zurich-style sliced veal, calf’s liver, pork knuckle, veal bratwurst, farmer’s bratwurst

Super tasty, great service, "not too expensive" for the city! Great location, nothing to complain about. A bit noisy, some might say, but that’s the soul of the restaurant!

Edit: but I do recommend booking!!!
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
There are plenty of restaurants serving excellent fish dishes in the Lausanne area and along the lake between Lausanne and Nyon.
MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
There are plenty of restaurants serving excellent fish dishes in the Lausanne area and along the lake, between Lausanne and Nyon.

I didn’t really see any, but I wasn’t specifically looking in that category, to be honest.
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Didn’t try the sausage dishes or the Zurich-style sliced veal.

What do you mean you didn’t try the Zurich-style sliced veal? Major fail... 🙂😛

When you go to Zurich, head to Zeughauskeller, Zeughauskeller Zürich - Hearty traditional dishes :: Wienerschnitzel, Cordon bleu, Kalbsgeschnetzeltes, Calf’s liver, Pork knuckle, Veal bratwurst, Farmer’s bratwurst

Super tasty, great service, "not too expensive" for the city! Well located, no complaints. A bit noisy, some might say, but that’s the restaurant’s vibe!

Edit: but I do recommend booking!!!

I’ll keep that in mind if I go!
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KU Kurtinet Regular ·
For everyone, an article from this morning showing the atmosphere in certain places:

https://www.watson.ch/fr/suisse/berne/119046853-surtourisme-7-choses-qui-m-ont-frappe-au-lac-d-oeschinen
MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Yeah, thanks social media...

From the moment I arrived in Switzerland, I was bombarded with Instagram posts about Switzerland, always the same places.

This stuff is dangerous...

So it actually warned me about places to avoid!

The Bernese Oberland in summer? No thanks. But honestly, off-season isn’t always obvious either.

There are places I’ll probably never see...
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Well, the mice have booked their accommodation for the global event they were most interested in 😛

https://www.capitalofcheese.com/fr/
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KU Kurtinet Regular ·
This screams indigestion... 😛
MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
It smells like indigestion... 😛

Never a time when people talk about cheese!

The trunk will fill up fast!

Well, in that case, it might be a good chance to check out some museums in Bern.

After that, I’m not sure. November is still a meh season, so it’ll depend on the weather!

We’d love to see Basel on the way back, and if I find accommodation near Zurich, it’s really tempting since it was my biggest regret from the last trip.

Also need to stock up on Ovomaltine tablets!
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MA Maysa59 ·
Thanks, In the end, we're going to Abondance for a week of detox, And from there we'll definitely find people from Geneva, Since I usually meet people there, I hope it'll work out, Thanks for everything, Best regards.
KU Kurtinet Regular ·
There's some competition in Tartegnin... : https://www.mondialfondue.com/
MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Here we are in Switzerland for the cheese festival!

Surprise when we got back to the car in the evening: a fine!

We were parked in a blue zone, and from what we read online, it's unlimited from 7 PM.

The ticket was issued at 7:45 PM, when it's supposed to be unlimited. We arrived at 6 PM with the parking disc set to that time.

I don't get it... There's no reason given...

Can anyone help me out?

Edit: I entered the fine number on the website, and it doesn't recognize it. Too soon?
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KU Kurtinet Regular ·
Watch out, sometimes there are fake fines—something to keep an eye on...

Or a picky cop might not have liked the use of a European blue zone disc (with markings every 10 minutes, if I remember right) when the Swiss disc has markings every 30 minutes.)
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
Surprise when returning to the car in the evening: plum!

Well, it's Switzerland! You must not have had the mandatory sticker you buy... only in Switzerland!

Last time I went was at the end of August to see friends in Yverdon by Lake Neuchâtel... Since we were only staying for 4 days without moving around much, we decided not to buy the highway vignette to save some money... So we took the small roads in the Canton of Vaud. Big mistake. In over 30 years in France, I’ve never gotten a single speeding ticket (I’m really careful with speed limits). Two months after returning to France, I got a fine in the mail for speeding: 63 km/h instead of 50 km/h. Result: a 250 Swiss franc fine, which is 270 euros!! Nice! No memory of driving too fast... The Swiss don’t mess around!
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KU Kurtinet Regular ·
It's weird because with these numbers, it should normally be a 120 CHF fine... 😉
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
It's weird because with these numbers, it should normally be a 120 CHF fine...

But that's the reality. 250 Swiss francs! Maybe it's the rate applied to foreigners?

Payment details Transaction number: 420179506 Fine amount / currency: CHF 250.00 Date, time: 16.10.2025 13:55 License plate and date of offense: F GW-103-PG Fine payment receipt number: 0106251071988 Your fine was paid by credit card. No AO 0106251071988 Payment method: Wallee All-in-One - Mastercard Offense details Location: Route de l'Etraz, 1197 Prangins Date, time: 18.08.2025, 17:25
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KU Kurtinet Regular ·
I hope there isn’t a special rate for foreigners. Right nearby, at the Nyon entrance radar, about a year ago, my wife got a ticket for 120 CHF. From what I recall, she was doing 64 km/h in a 50 zone... and there was a similar one three years ago at the Neuchâtel exit, so it seems like the rate is federal, not cantonal...
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
The rate is the same for Swiss residents and foreigners. CHF 250 for speeding between 11 and 15 km/h in a 50 km/h zone is correct.
MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
We had the disc and it works well in Switzerland. And once again, it was 19:45 even though parking is limited from 19:00.

I wonder if we’re still supposed to leave by 19:00 even if we arrived at 18:00?

In France, it doesn’t work like that.

I found a document from the canton of Geneva that clearly says no, but maybe it’s different in Bern?

It’s still complicated...
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Couldn't access the fine online.

Maybe they realized their mistake?
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Anyway, we’d planned to go back to Bern, but parking is a real hassle there.

Head for a covered parking lot? Well, there aren’t many, actually...

The plan was to wander the city center again and visit the fine-arts museum.
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KU Kurtinet Regular ·
No, it's only in the city center. Normally, elsewhere, they deduct 5 km/h from the recorded speed, but here, we'd end up at 58 km/h. Between 6 and 10 km/h over (here, 8 km/h), you get a 120 CHF fine. That’s actually what we got twice in 3 years.
KU Kurtinet Regular ·
You’ve got to go get this fine checked out at the police station—it’s really not clear at all. At 7:45 PM in Geneva, you don’t even need to display the parking disc...
MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
You have to go get this fine checked by the cops, it's not clear at all. At 7:45 PM in Geneva, you don't even need to display the parking disc...

Indeed.

Apparently, you can't even go to the cops... I'm waiting to be able to access the fine.

Since it was still a long trip just for a one-day festival, we're staying several days, but the weather isn't great...

I have a feeling this trip is going to be pretty mixed...
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TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
We arrived at 6 PM with the disc at that time.

So you set the disc with the arrow to 6 PM?

If that’s the case, you can’t stay past 7 PM. When arriving at 6 PM, you need to set the arrow to 6:30 PM.

Check out the disc here and you’ll understand. https://tcsge-shop.ch/zones-bleues
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
No, it's only in the city center. Normally, elsewhere, they deduct 5 km/h from the recorded speed, but here, we'd end up at 58 km/h. Between 6 and 10 km/h (here 8), the fine is 120 CHF. That’s actually what we got twice in 3 years.

Weren’t the 5 km/h already deducted from the 63 km/h? In that case, the amount would be correct.
MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
We arrived at 6 PM with the disc at that time.

So you set the disc with the arrow to 6 PM?

If that’s the case, you can’t stay past 7 PM. When arriving at 6 PM, you need to set the arrow to 6:30 PM.

Check out the disc here and you’ll understand. https://tcsge-shop.ch/zones-bleues

That’s what I thought... It’s still not clear, though. In France, it’s not like that, okay. I asked my Home Exchange host, and he thought the same as me.

It’s annoying—we often leave the disc even when it’s no longer needed because parking is free.

The fine still hasn’t appeared on the site—is that normal, by the way?
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KU Kurtinet Regular ·
It's clear that if you're going 69-70 km/h, you're in trouble...

Where I live in Geneva, I've never seen anyone get a ticket in a blue zone between 7:00 PM and 8:00 AM—who’s doing that in Bern at 7:45 PM? At night, though, the cantonal police do ticket people parked on the yellow lines before pedestrian crossings.

Right outside my garage, on a one-way street, there are 5 prime spots on the yellow lines of a pedestrian crossing—no stopping, day or night—and tickets on windshields all the time. A profitable spot...
MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Yeah, we’re not happy about it. And no, it’s not very clear.

I found the parking regulations for Geneva, which clearly state that the blue zone is free after 7 PM.

Today we’re invited to the Paul Klee Center. So when it closes, we’ll leave instead of grabbing a coffee downtown—don’t feel like getting fined or paying a fortune for parking just for a coffee. Oh well.

On Tuesday, we plan to go back to Bern and enjoy the late-night opening at the Fine Arts Museum, but we’ll park at the Neufeld park-and-ride. I saw that the bus is free to the train station afterward. Had to dig around to find that info.

But 5 hours of parking for 10 CHF, 6 hours for 16 CHF? Seriously, that doesn’t make you want to stay longer and spend money at a restaurant.
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Otherwise, the weather’s been crappy, but yeah, it’s November—makes sense. It hasn’t always been sunnier in summer either...

Just the evenings feel longer since it gets dark so early.

Yesterday, I took a walk through La Neuveville, a cute and colorful town, but it was completely dead 😅—I expected it to be livelier for a Saturday. Since it started raining, we grabbed a coffee at the convenience store next to the train station.

Then we headed to Biel/Bienne. Exploring it at night and in the rain 😅—let’s just say it has its own vibe! We only wandered through the old town, which isn’t very big (or very lively).
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KU Kurtinet Regular ·
Near La Neuveville, Le Landeron is also cute to see...

Otherwise, I’m pretty annoyed when I read this too: https://www.24heures.ch/berne-5000-fromages-jetes-apres-les-world-cheese-awards-181679517998
MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
😮

We could see the cheeses, but we couldn't get close. What a waste...
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TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
We arrived at 6 PM with the parking disc set for that time.

So you set the disc with the arrow to 6 PM?

If that’s the case, you can’t stay past 7 PM. When arriving at 6 PM, you should set the arrow to 6:30 PM.

Check out the disc here and you’ll understand. https://tcsge-shop.ch/zones-bleues

That’s what I thought... It’s still not clear, though. In France, it’s not like that. I asked my home-exchange host, and he thought the same as me.

It’s annoying—we often leave the disc in place even when it’s no longer needed because parking is free.

The fine still hasn’t appeared on the website—is that normal, by the way?

With the arrow set to 6 PM, it’s normal to get a fine if you stay past 7 PM. Check the back of the disc—it’s clearly indicated. What’s done in France or elsewhere doesn’t matter.
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
I found the parking regulations in Geneva, which clearly state that the blue zone is free from 7 PM.

Yes, but for that, you’ve got to arrive after 6 PM and set the arrow to the next half-hour, as always. So if you arrive at 6 PM, you need to set the arrow to 6:30. The police don’t check all the time—when they look at your disc and the arrow’s on 6 PM, they might think you arrived at 5:30.
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Just so you know, until November 22nd, there’s a sound and light show on Federal Square in Bern. It’s free and really pretty. There are three shows every evening at 7:00 PM, 8:00 PM, and 9:00 PM.





MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Thanks!

How long does it last? Not sure if the timing will work out. It depends on what time we get out of the museum!
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TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Only half an hour, and as mentioned above, there are three shows per night.

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