Bolivia: Exploring the South Lipez by Self-Drive
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TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Hi Anne-France,

Thanks for your message. I hope you can visit the South Lipez region soon. It’s definitely worth the trip.

To be continued...

Carmen
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
We’ll start from Sucre, head down to Tupiza, and spend a day there like you advised me.

Uh, I’d recommend going *via* Tupiza to visit the Rio Seco and Guadalupe area, but not to stay in Tupiza itself. 😉 But coming from Sucre, you’ll have to spend a night there before moving on. For a week in the South Lipez, I wouldn’t spend a whole day in Tupiza.
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
15.10. In the middle of nowhere – Quetena Chico, Lampahaya Andino Lodge

I wake up at six o’clock, the windows inside the car are completely frozen. Luckily, we’re not cold in our sleeping bags. We wait for the sun to rise before getting out of our bags. It’s cold, really cold—the water in the five-liter containers is almost entirely frozen.

The view of the lagoon is stunning, what an incredible spot. Even the pink flamingos seem cold. They’re huddled together, close to one another. Before heading out for a walk by the lagoon, we have some hot tea to warm up and eat a few cookies. When we arrive, the flamingos scatter quickly—they’re much shyer than those at the other lagoons. Back at the car, we prepare breakfast: eggs, sardines, and crackers. Yep, we’re eating what we have in our supplies. The sun warms us up, so we can shed a layer. Instead of five layers, we’re down to just three.









The sun rises... the colors change
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
The desert crossing is beautiful—we’re happy driving through the sand. We stop at Laguna Kollpa, where we decide to walk around the lagoon. There are hundreds of pink flamingos; it’s stunning. A few houses stand by the lagoon’s edge, likely used by workers who come here for their jobs. Large blocks of salt or borax are stored along the shore.

A few vicuñas come to drink



Laguna Kollpa







The houses aren’t very big





Walking around this lagoon on foot is really nice. With the wind picking up, the water’s color changes—it turns yellowish. The flamingos don’t seem to appreciate our presence; they fly away as we pass. It’s so beautiful watching them skim over the water. A few vicuñas cautiously approach the water to drink.









TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
We hit the road again and head down toward Laguna Hedionda Sur, a smaller cousin of the lagoon with the same name farther north. Here too, there are pink flamingos and vicuñas. The track climbs over a pass, giving us a great view of the mountains. The descent from the pass is stunning—the landscape turns green, and we get a view of the Uturuncu volcano and Cerro Loromita.

Laguna Hedionda Sur



At the bottom, we discover a pretty canyon with plenty of greenery and water. Lots of llamas are grazing on the plants growing in the water. The spot feels magical—after days in the desert, we’re really appreciating the little bit of green. We decide to have a picnic here, at the foot of the rocks, sheltered from the wind. A tour operator passes by, stopping for barely a minute so their clients can snap a photo. Good thing—we enjoy having the place to ourselves. It’s actually the first car we’ve seen since leaving Laguna Verde the day before.











The track follows the canyon—this place is a real oasis. Hundreds of llamas graze along the water’s edge and in the water, and there are a few sheep too. We pass through Quetena Grande, which is tiny, before reaching Quetena Chico. We quickly find the Lampahaya Lodge Andino, where we snag a double room with a private bathroom for two nights. Not all rooms have a private bathroom, so we’re lucky. The owner, dressed traditionally in wool socks, sandals, a skirt with layers of petticoats, and a little hat, arranges a guide for our climb up Uturuncu.

Farms in the middle of nowhere

We take a walk around the village. Kids are pouring out of school and running to buy candy at the little village shop. This seems to be a habit in these villages—we’ve never seen so many kids with candy in hand, and a big part of the small shops’ stock is candy. Unfortunately, the sugar is taking its toll; people’s teeth are in terrible shape.

Quetena Chico





In a schoolyard, kids are playing music, and on the sports field, they’re playing soccer. Back at the lodge, the woman serves us tea and cookies.

Our guide for Uturuncu stops by to see us. Communication isn’t easy, but luckily Google Translate does the trick. The guide’s name is Macario, and he tells us to dress *very* warmly. Today, it was freezing on Uturuncu, and they’re forecasting even colder temperatures tomorrow morning. He advises us to bring walking poles, a drink, and a snack. Our guide is certified by the Bolivian Mountain Guides Association—that’s a good sign.

We take a nice hot shower before heading to dinner. In the meantime, several tour operators have arrived. The young travelers are sleeping in dorms without bathrooms. One young woman is suffering from altitude sickness—she’s really not doing well. We ask one of the drivers if he can make a call for us to book a room in Tupiza. Luckily, he manages to reserve the last available room at the Hotel Mitru.

The rest of the story is here: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=9933010;a=9933010
RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
I wake up at six o'clock, the windows inside the car are completely frozen. Luckily, we're not cold in our sleeping bags. We wait for the sun to rise before getting out of our bags. It's cold, really cold—the water in the five-liter containers is almost entirely frozen.

Oh no!!! I need to totally skip this part, I don’t wanna know anything more, Carmen... 🏴‍☠️ The next photos are so beautiful... I just want to remember these amazing images 😉
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
MA Marati Globetrotter ·
Next time you sleep in the high mountains in the dead of winter, could you test a 5L container 🤪😏? I’m seriously chilled too...
RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
I’m seriously put off too...

But no, you just need the right clothes and a good sleeping bag for the night 😄🥶😱
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
I’m seriously put off too...

But no, you just need the right clothes and a good sleeping bag for the night 😄🥶😨

Yeah, we didn’t suffer from the cold.😛 But I imagine the cold is way harsher in July-August.
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
I’m seriously put off too...

Cold preserves... apparently it’s good for your health. 😛 Well, up to a point.
MA Marati Globetrotter ·
If it’s really -20 at night, I know someone who, come morning, will warm up only by yelling at me and asking why I dragged her into this mess... And then she’ll start dreaming again about the extreme summer temps in the US West!!! The world upside down, really...
NI Nimou74 Veteran ·
I’m seriously put off too...

But no, you just need the right clothes and a good sleeping bag for the night 😄🥶😨

Yeah, we didn’t suffer from the cold.😛 But I imagine the cold is much harsher in July-August.

Hi Carmen,

The cold is especially biting in July-August. My feet and hands still remember the wind-exposed refuges at nearly 4,000m altitude... Back then, our gear wasn’t as high-performance as it is now. (But we were younger too.) I remember a young girl whose jacket was basically... a denim jacket! She really suffered.😮
« Voyager rend modeste. Vous voyez quelle petite place vous occupez dans le monde. » - Gustave Flaubert https://www.myatlas.com/anneclaire95
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
I don’t think we ever had -20 at night. I skied once at -18 and it was pretty tough to handle.

You do like us—rent a car without a thermometer... When you don’t know, it’s easier to deal with. 😄
AT Atila Globetrotter ·
If it’s really -20 at night

When I went to the El Tatio geysers in Chile, on the other side of the border, it was -18 at dawn in July...

But like at the Salar, with no wind, the sun was deliciously warm during the day.
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Hi there,

The cold is particularly biting in July-August.

Yeah, I can believe that. During that time, you might want to skip sleeping in the car.

My feet and hands still remember the wind-exposed refuges at nearly 4,000m altitude... Back then, our gear wasn’t as high-performance as it is now. (But we were younger too).

True, equipment has really improved. But for people who’ll only use it for one trip, it’s a pretty big budget. -10°C comfort sleeping bags are super expensive, and merino clothing and the like aren’t cheap either. We use this kind of gear regularly, so it’s worth investing in quality.

I remember a young girl whose jacket was basically... a denim jacket! She suffered.😮

It’s a bit like tourists walking on glaciers in sneakers—or worse, flip-flops. Apparently, some have even tried climbing Mont Blanc in sneakers.🏴‍☠️
AT Atila Globetrotter ·
les vêtements mérinos

Is it thin or thick? Can you wear it directly on your skin, unlike wool? I'm looking for something warm and not bulky for the high-altitude parts of my trip to Argentina.
NI Nimou74 Veteran ·
Is it thin or thick? Can it be worn directly on the skin, unlike wool?

It’s thin and lightweight. Yes, it can be worn directly on the skin... Try it, and you’ll love it. I only wear merino wool T-shirts during treks now. Plus, it’s guaranteed odor-resistant!
« Voyager rend modeste. Vous voyez quelle petite place vous occupez dans le monde. » - Gustave Flaubert https://www.myatlas.com/anneclaire95
TI Titoualsace Veteran ·
Hi Carmen. I’ve slept in a car several times with a 0°C sleeping bag, even in slightly negative temperatures—I can sleep in just underwear and socks without any problem. If it gets colder, I stay dressed according to how cold I feel. I prefer sleeping in a car over an uninsulated, unheated room. I know I’ll get an earful from the eco-conscious crowd, but in the car, if it gets unbearably cold, I can start the engine for a few minutes and get some heat. Same thing in the morning—just a few minutes before getting out of the sleeping bag. As for the Altiplano, it’ll be the same as Chile and Argentina—either late October/early November or at the latest mid-November. I’m hoping to avoid the worst of the cold and also the rains that start in December. Bernard.
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TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Is it thin or thick?

You can find some that are very thin and others that are slightly thicker. I tend to get cold easily, so I have a 260g base layer. My husband has a 180g one, but I think there are also 150g options.

Can you wear it directly on your skin, unlike wool? I’m looking for something warm and not bulky for the high-altitude parts of my trip to Argentina.

Yes, you wear them directly on your skin. The T-shirts are often blended. 100% merino wool can be a bit delicate (prone to holes), especially if you get a summer-weight T-shirt. Non-blended ones wear out quickly around backpack straps.

Mine are 52% merino, 25% lyocell, and 13% nylon. They’re cool-lite, perfect for summer hiking. So they’re more for odor control than keeping you warm. But you can easily wear them under a merino zip-up sweater.

For warmth, I have a long-sleeve merino base layer (260g, 100% merino) and a hooded zip-up sweater with extra-long sleeves and thumbholes, made of 98% merino and 2% elastane. I love the latter—I wear it over a merino T-shirt when it’s cold. I wore it every day in the South Lipez. It packs down really small, so I keep it in my carry-on.

Unfortunately, sweaters, especially zip-up ones, are pretty expensive. But you can often find last season’s models and colors on sale.

Also really handy: a down jacket you can compress into a tiny ball. It’s lightweight, warm, and not bulky.
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
I know I’ll make the eco-conscious howl, but in the car, if it’s unbearably cold, I can run the engine for a few minutes to get some heat. Same thing in the morning—just a few minutes before crawling out of the sleeping bag.

I don’t know if running the engine for a few minutes is enough to keep the car warm for the next few hours. We didn’t try it, but I think the car won’t stay warm for long. Anyway, in my opinion, it’s better to be well-equipped and not rely on the car’s heating.

Regarding the Altiplano, it’ll be the same as for Chile and Argentina—either late October/early November or at the latest mid-November. I’m hoping to avoid the worst cold and also the rains that start in December. Bernard.

True, you’ll probably be warmer than we were. Jean-Louis left after us and had much less cold. But you’re never safe from a cold snap, and in the South Lipez, you’re mostly above 4,000 m with the cold that comes with it.

Personally, I would’ve been way too cold in a sleeping bag rated for 0°C comfort. It was much colder than 0°C, and I’m pretty sensitive to the cold.
MA Max68 Globetrotter ·
Personally, I find that even Merino wool "pricks" a bit. But it’s true that it’s effective.
https://apprentisvoyageurs.com
AT Atila Globetrotter ·
a hoodie with a zipper and very long sleeves

Since Jeff says you can still feel it’s wool, I think I’ll go for this kind of product that isn’t worn next to the skin.

Which brands do you recommend?
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
I think you should try it on in a store to see if the merino wool itches. To stay warm, you should actually wear it against your skin. But maybe it still works if you have another layer underneath... Worth a try, and maybe ask for advice at a good sports store.

Personally, I always buy the Icebreaker brand.
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Under my merino sweater, I'm wearing a merino t-shirt.
NI Nimou74 Veteran ·
Personally, I always buy the Icebreaker brand.

I also have a Merino T-shirt from this brand. No complaints, but it’s a bit pricey. Otherwise, I own a short-sleeved Odlo and a long-sleeved Bergans. Both are really great, actually. 100% merino wool. They don’t itch at all. I also have some with a wool blend that I wear during treks, even in warm weather.
« Voyager rend modeste. Vous voyez quelle petite place vous occupez dans le monde. » - Gustave Flaubert https://www.myatlas.com/anneclaire95
TI Titoualsace Veteran ·
Hello again. You're right, running the engine for a few minutes isn't enough to heat the cabin for the rest of the night. But I've been woken up by the cold before, and a few minutes with the heater on is still nice. After that, I turn it off and go back to sleep. Of course, I only do this when it's really cold—it’s also a safety measure then. Bernard.
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MA Max68 Globetrotter ·
Icebreaker is the specialist for Merino wool. Sure, it’s not cheap.

When it comes to "scratchiness," everyone has their own sensitivity level, and I’ll admit I’m very sensitive to it. I gave my Icebreaker T-shirt to my son because I didn’t like it 😮. So it’s best to try it out 😉.
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VC Vcrelier ·
I misspoke: I was referring to a day in the immediate area around Tupiza, not Tupiza itself. We ended up booking the car for 12 days. We’ll spend 7 days in the Southern Lipez, 2 days in the Uyuni Salt Flat, and 3 days in Sajama Park. We’ll visit fewer lagoons than you did (we’ll have to make choices), but there’s no way we’d try to cram in as many as possible in the least amount of time, like some of the people you ran into who just took a few quick photos and left right away! I have a question: could you lower the back seats all the way and stretch out to sleep in the car, or did you recline the front seat and sleep in a "semi-seated" position? Another question: I’m trying to book a flight with Amazonas to go from Santa Cruz to Sucre. But every time, when I try to pay, I get an error message telling me to try again later. I’ve tried with three different credit cards, but I keep getting the same message. Did you run into this kind of issue when booking? Or did you fly with the national airline? Thanks for the info... 😊
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
We’ll visit slightly fewer lagoons than you (you’ll have to make a choice), but it’s out of the question to try to do as many as possible in the shortest time, like some people you’ve come across who were content to quickly take a few photos and leave just as fast!

Almost all tourists do the Southern Lipez in 3, 4, or 5 days (including the Salar). So you’ve got way more time.

I have a question: could you lower the back seats completely and stretch out to sleep in the car, or did you recline the front seat and sleep in a "semi-seated" position?

You can’t lower the back seat in the Hilux since the trunk is separate from the cabin. If you want to lower the back seat, you’ll need to rent a different car.

The front seat backrest folds completely flat onto the back seat. You’re almost lying flat. For your feet, you can use a bag or a box to keep them straight. Personally, I didn’t use anything—it didn’t bother me at all for sleeping.

Another question: I’m trying to book a flight with Amazonas to go from Santa Cruz to Sucre. But every time, when I try to pay, I get an error message telling me to try again later. I’ve tried with three different credit cards, but I keep getting the same message. Did you have this kind of problem when booking? Or did you fly with the national airline? Thanks for the info... 😊

I’ve read multiple times that people have had issues booking with Amazonas or BOA. I didn’t even try—I bought my tickets through an agency (online) in Switzerland. I paid the same price, so it worked out perfectly. If you’d like, I can give you the name in a private message.
AT Atlt ·
Amazing travel journal! Huge thanks for sharing your whole experience, your descriptions, and your gorgeous photos. I was actually looking for recent self-drive travel journals in the South Lipez for my first trip to Bolivia. Can’t wait for the next part!
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Hi Thad,

Thanks for your message. It’s always encouraging to receive them.

The rest is coming right up. 🙂
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
16.10. Quetena Chico, Lampahaya Andino Lodge

We wake up at 4:30 AM, breakfast at 5:00 AM, and we're ready to go. Our guide Macario arrives at 5:30 AM, and we leave with our car. He takes us down a track through the middle of the village, crossing two fords, one of which is quite deep. According to Macario, there are 70 centimeters of water. Without him, we definitely would've hesitated to cross, especially at night.

The track crosses a large plain before gradually climbing the slopes of Uturuncu. The turns get tighter, and Benoît has to engage the 4x4. At one turn, Benoît has to try twice—it's that steep. Meanwhile, Macario chews coca leaves and seems to doze off. When we reach 5,600 meters, Macario asks if we want to go higher. No, we'd rather walk—already, we feel like we don't really deserve the 6,000 meters.

It's seven o'clock, and after an hour and a half of driving, we leave the car by the side of the track and start climbing right away. I feel weird, a bit like I've been drinking, and my legs don't seem to listen to me. I think I'll never make it up with this weakness in my legs. Luckily, after five minutes, it passes, and I'm back to my usual self.

The guide walks slowly, very slowly. We could walk faster, but Macario knows not to go too quickly at this altitude. He explains how to breathe to better ventilate our lungs and asks if our hearts are beating fast. He's happy when he sees everything's fine.

Along the way, we see a few fumaroles. The sulfur smell is pretty strong. After almost two hours of climbing, we take a short break. Then, we reach the summit 15 minutes later at 9:15 AM. It's amazing—6,000 meters didn't cause us any trouble, and we can really enjoy the view. We stay at the summit for 20 minutes, taking a few photos and admiring the 360° view.



















Laguna Celeste

The descent is quick—Macario moves at a fast pace. We struggle to keep up, especially with my photo stops. Forty-five minutes later, we're back at the car with smiles from ear to ear.









A tour operator's 4x4 arrives with several young French travelers. They'll also climb Uturuncu with Macario. Now we understand why he was walking so fast on the way down. Macario is 72 years old and sometimes does the ascent twice in one day. We get back in the car without Macario.
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Once we got to the bottom, there were several tracks, so we fired up maps.me, which pointed us to the one on the right. Very quickly, we realized the landscape didn’t look anything like this morning’s. We found ourselves in a canyon with beautiful rock formations. We decided to stop here for lunch and found a nice spot sheltered from the wind. Benoît made a pasta dish.









Back in Quetena Chico, the lady from Lampahaya Lodge Andino came to pick us up. She had prepared lunch for us. Uh, we didn’t know she’d be cooking for us. We weren’t very hungry, but the dish was excellent, so we ate with pleasure.

A 2CV with French license plates was parked in front of the lodge. We chatted with the driver, who explained they wanted to break the world record for the highest climb in a two-wheel-drive vehicle. There were two of them—a Frenchman and a Swiss—both 2CV enthusiasts. They planned to climb Uturuncu with Caracol—yes, the 2CV has a name. We spent the rest of the afternoon quietly at the lodge, organizing our luggage and writing our travel journal, as we do every day.







We still had a large jerrycan of fuel in reserve, but we preferred to buy 25 liters to be sure we wouldn’t run into any problems. The lodge lady called a friend, who brought us the fuel that evening.

Today, too, the tour operators arrived at the end of the day, and like yesterday, they had their cook preparing food for the group. One of the guides spoke a little French and was happy to chat with us. We told him our next stops, and he advised us to go via Río Mojón and Río Seco to reach Tupiza. Perfect—it was exactly what we had planned. I took the opportunity to mention my little concern: crossing the river at Río Seco. He told me there was a new bridge, so we wouldn’t need to take a detour to cross.

The two 2CV fans arrived quite late—they’d gone to scout the track with Macario. He’d be accompanying them up Uturuncu, and they’d also have a 4x4 with another guide. They were discouraged—the track was much rockier than they’d expected. Even with upgraded suspension and a slight lift, Caracol wouldn’t make it up, and crossing the deep ford would be impossible. But the guides and the people of Quetena Chico were determined to make the challenge happen. Macario had organized a team to remove the biggest rocks from the track and widen the stream bed to reduce the depth of the ford. So all wasn’t lost. We’d follow Caracol’s adventures on Facebook. Our evening with the two men was really enjoyable. The rest is here: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=9941074;a=9941074
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
If you want to learn more about Caracol’s adventures, you can find articles on Facebook by searching for Mission Uturuncu 2019.

Here’s a really cool video: https://www.facebook.com/missionuturuncu2019/videos/vb.2390036577879003/490981861491568/?type=2&theater

With the help of guides and the locals from Quetena Chico, Caracol made it up to 5,750 m.
MU Muriel18 Globetrotter ·
Congrats on the 6000m... and kudos to Macario! 😮 Thanks also for the discovery of Caracol (2CVs are getting rarer and rarer, but some are still holding strong 😉). Muriel
Si tu diffères de moi, mon frère, loin de me léser, tu m'enrichis (Saint Exupéry)
TI Titoualsace Veteran ·
Hi Carmen. It’s still just as exciting—congrats on that first 6,000-meter peak! I’ve got it on my itinerary too, and I hope the weather and my own condition won’t get in the way. Thanks again. Bernard.
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MA Marati Globetrotter ·
Great job you pulled off there!!
AT Atila Globetrotter ·
Arrived at 5,600 meters above sea level, Macario asks if we want to go higher. No, we’d rather walk—even at this altitude, we already feel like we don’t really deserve the 6,000 m.

400 meters of elevation gain at that altitude—respect! 🙂

(I’m wondering if I shouldn’t just rent a 2CV instead... A trip through time *and* space! 😄)
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
I knew some wanted to climb to the top of Mont Blanc with a rower, and now others are aiming to take a 2CV to 6,000 meters... I love the guide’s face! 👍
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux." Marcel Proust
RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
Well Carmen... congratulations, that 6000 m is amazing 😉. Just to put my mind at ease, did you train at all before heading to Bolivia? Did you run up Mont Blanc? 😮
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
MA Max68 Globetrotter ·
YEESSS way to go Carmen 😎

Plus, the view from up there is absolutely stunning. What an amazing trip 😛.

I didn’t know there was a lodge in Quetena Chico.
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RJ Rjulie95 Globetrotter ·
Congrats to you both on the 6000 km, and the 2CV is awesome—this car is indestructible! 🙂
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.

"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela

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TI Titoualsace Veteran ·
Hi Régis. You're right, these cars are incredible—I owned two of them a long time ago, including a 1958 model. Unforgettable memories. Bernard.
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TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Thanks to everyone for your messages.

Uturuncu is one of the 6,000m peaks that’s pretty easy to climb. You can drive really high up, so there isn’t much elevation gain to do on foot. We decided to stop before the end of the track to get a bit more walking in. Altitude can be an issue, especially if you’re not well acclimatized.

For those thinking of going up without a guide, you should know the track is blocked by a chain with a padlock. Only the guide can open it. In my opinion, it’s still safer to go up with a guide anyway. Macario did have a satellite phone with him, though. I don’t know if he had an oxygen bottle in his backpack—we didn’t think to ask him.

@Rouquine

Just to reassure me, you *did* train before going to Bolivia, right?

We did a few mountain hikes last summer, but nothing more than usual in previous years. But I walk every day with our dog—he helps me stay in shape. 😉

@Jean-François Lampahaya Lodge isn’t a luxurious lodge. I’d say the word "Lodge" is a bit exaggerated. Our room was clean, but in the same style as Doña Lupe’s in Jirira. There was electricity in the evening once they started the generator. We had enough hot water for a shower and to wash our hair. However, it was *freezing* in the dining room. The stove wasn’t enough to heat the whole space. We had to bundle up just to eat.
TI Titoualsace Veteran ·
Hi Carmen. So there really is a locked gate. Do you remember the distance between that gate and the spot where you parked the car before the climb? Thanks, Bernard.
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TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
So there really is a locked barrier. Do you remember the distance between that barrier and the spot where you parked the car before the ascent?

No, I didn’t really pay attention. But a forum member left their car before the barrier, and according to them, it’s at 4,600 m. They tried to go up but gave up—too tough, too much elevation gain, and signs of AMS.

Since you’re traveling solo, I’m not sure it’s wise to go without a guide.
TI Titoualsace Veteran ·
Hi Carmen. Thanks for your reply. I’ll probably end up hiring a guide, since 1,400m of elevation gain would be too much for me—it’s definitely better to go higher by car. More than the altitude, which I handle well so far (fingers crossed it stays that way), it’s the risk of a stupid fall breaking an ankle or something that worries me. If I’m alone, getting back could take *forever*...

I’ve often been alone in remote places, and there’s no room for error—I accept that. But at nearly 6,000m, the risk of feeling faint and then falling is just too high. Bernard.
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TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
17.10. Quetena Chico – Guadalupe, at Celia's

Like yesterday, we have piping hot pancakes for breakfast, but we’re starting to miss the really crusty bread. Before leaving, we chat a little longer with the two 2CV enthusiasts and wish them all the best.



Goodbye, Uturuncu

We’re approaching Laguna Celeste



After a 1 hour 45-minute drive, we arrive at Laguna Celeste at 8:45 AM. This lagoon is stunning, with its turquoise water and countless pink flamingos. It’s cold and windy, but it’s the wind that gives the lagoons their beautiful color. We stroll along the shore and climb up high to admire it from above. The flamingos fly over the lagoon—it’s a breathtaking sight.



























TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
The track to Villa Collpani goes via Laguna Blanca and Laguna Amarilla. It's rough, so we're moving slowly. After Villa Collpani, the track is much smoother. We follow a canyon and cross several fords. The track goes up and down, the view of the mountains is stunning, and there are lots of llamas and vicuñas. We stop for a picnic in a wind-sheltered valley with a view of a large herd of llamas.

Last glance at Laguna Celeste















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MU Muriel18 Globetrotter ·
You could say "another lagoon!" ...but no, they’re all different and just as beautiful...🙂. Muriel
Si tu diffères de moi, mon frère, loin de me léser, tu m'enrichis (Saint Exupéry)

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