Bolivia: Exploring the South Lipez by Self-Drive
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TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
We decide not to go through San Pablo de Lipez but head toward San Antonio de Esmoruco and take a small track up to Guadalupe. The road to San Antonio isn’t very smooth, but the landscape with its colorful mountains is stunning. It feels like the Wild West.

To our great surprise, we spot two condors soaring above the canyon. They’re quite far away, but you can still make out their white collars. What a surprise—we weren’t expecting to see any here at all! 🙂













The track up to Guadalupe is marked by a small wooden sign. It’s the same route maps.me wants to take us on—perfect. The track climbs steeply, it’s very narrow, and there are lots of bends. After a while, it becomes almost impassable, but we push on. Unfortunately, not for long—the water has carved deep ruts, and the bends get harder and harder to navigate. We’re six kilometers from Guadalupe when we come across a huge hole. At this bend, the track has simply disappeared, and there’s no way through. 🏴‍☠️

Luckily, this stretch of track is a bit wider, and Benoît manages to turn around, though it takes several maneuvers. We’re disappointed—we have to go back down to the junction and find another route. With maps.me’s help, I quickly find a solution. We have two options: either take another 13-kilometer track up to Guadalupe or descend 4 kilometers to San Antonio de Esmoruco and skip Guadalupe. It’s late, so we decide to head to San Antonio for the night. The track is beautiful, and we get to see some amazing rock formations.





We quickly find a hostel and ask to see the room and bathroom. We don’t even step inside—we don’t want to spend the night in a place like that. Everything’s dirty, and the woman says she’ll clean, but we’d rather leave and sleep in the car. We head back up the track, hoping to find a spot to settle down. But for several kilometers, we can’t leave the track, and I really don’t want to sleep somewhere with passing traffic. In the end, we decide to go up to Guadalupe. What a waste of time!

The sun has already set behind the mountains by the time we reach Guadalupe. We quickly find someone who goes to fetch a woman who rents out rooms. Like in San Antonio, I ask to see the room. It’s basic but very clean, and there’s a bathroom in the courtyard. We’ll be staying “at” Celia’s—she charges us 70 bolivianos for the room.

The headboard is still wrapped up

Celia doesn’t cook, so we’ll have to fend for ourselves. No problem—we’ve got our little stove and enough food to cook. We ask her to arrange a guide for Ciudad da Roma tomorrow morning. Celia comes back with her son, who’s willing to be our guide for the whole day. No thanks—we only want a 3-4 hour visit so we can do some walking. So Celia will be accompanying us instead.

She and her son are amazed to see our little stove with the gas canister. They’ve never seen one before and want to know how it works. Then a neighbor stops by to chat, but he quickly realizes our Spanish isn’t good enough to understand or hold a conversation. Too bad! We won’t be using the shower—the electrical wires above the showerhead don’t exactly inspire confidence.





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TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
You might say "another lagoon!" ...but no, they’re all different and just as beautiful...🙂.

Yes, they really are different, and depending on the time of day, the same lagoon can have a completely different color. In Airone’s travel journal, you can see photos of Laguna Celeste without its beautiful turquoise color, but with the mountain’s reflection instead.

Next up, no more lagoons—it’s time for landscapes that are a bit more "Far West"-style.[;)
MA Max68 Globetrotter ·
Gorgeous photo of the flock of pink flamingos taking off, well done! 🙂

And what can I say about Laguna Celeste, except that it remains one of the most beautiful for me too? 😛

Thank youuu! 🙂
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TI Titoualsace Veteran ·
Hi Carmen. Thanks for this follow-up, still as fascinating and something I’ve been eagerly waiting for. It’s a goldmine of info for my upcoming trip. The photos are stunning! Bernard.
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MA Max68 Globetrotter ·
You guys aren’t messing around! ... because you really feel alone on the trails between Laguna Celeste and Guadalupe 😮
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TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Not gonna lie, you guys are pretty bold! ... because you really feel alone on the tracks between Laguna Celeste and Guadalupe 😮

Yeah, you do feel pretty alone, but that’s also the point of a trip to the South Lipez.😉 But you’ve gotta be prepared and carry enough water and food, plus a good sleeping bag. With all that, you can wait for a passing car if you run into mechanical issues. That said, you should also be aware that if you have a serious health problem, things could go badly.

Taking the track that goes through Villa Colpani and joins the main road connecting San Pablo to Guadalupe is less risky. In fact, I think almost all forum members took that route. We decided to cut through, but honestly, we didn’t see a single car all day.
DI Diamina Globetrotter ·
Hey

Yeah, you do feel pretty alone, but that’s kind of the point of a trip to the South Lipez.

Totally!!!!😏

But you also have to be aware—if you have a serious health issue, things could go really wrong.

That’s the flip side of all these completely remote spots!!!🤪
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MA Max68 Globetrotter ·
Hi Carmen,

We decided to cut through, but it's true,

did you take the same track as us? (via Laguna Arenal and one or another laguna lost in the middle of nowhere) 😏 Because we also went through San Antonio de Esmoruco.

I’m really looking forward to the rest 😛 Thanks 🙂
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TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
But you also have to be aware that in case of a serious health issue, things can go badly wrong.

It’s the flip side of all these completely isolated spots!!!🤪

Yes, exactly. But I have to admit that a little adrenaline rush now and then doesn’t bother me. Sometimes I’m a bit too reckless—or maybe just clueless.😄
TI Titoualsace Veteran ·
But you also have to be aware that in case of a serious health issue, things can go really wrong.

That’s the flip side of all these completely isolated spots!!!🤪

Yes, exactly. But I must admit that a little adrenaline rush now and then doesn’t bother me. Sometimes, I might be a bit too reckless—or maybe just careless.😄

Hi Carmen, For me too, it’s the adrenaline that keeps me going—it’s an addiction you can’t shake. For me, it’s also that horizon line: what on earth will I discover beyond it? Everyone’s got their own motivation. Bernard.
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TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
No, we didn’t take the same route as you. We took the track to Villa Collpani and Estancia Peña Colorada. Then, we continued toward Relave. But about 6 km before Relave, we turned right. That’s where we didn’t take the same track as most people. We passed near Estancia El Tolar and took the track that goes up to Guadalupe. However, this track was no longer passable—the area had experienced severe bad weather, and as you’ve read, the track had completely disappeared. So we turned back and took the track to San Antonio de Esmoruco.

It was actually in this part that we were lucky enough to see condors. I didn’t think we’d see any in this region. But I found an article online that said there are some even in the Tupiza area. Though the Guadalupe sector might already be considered part of the Tupiza region.

To see the route on Maps.me, you’ll need to zoom in a lot, otherwise you won’t see the track.
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
To each their own engine.

True enough. 🙂

But I must admit that sometimes I’ve done things I now consider reckless. I ask myself a lot of questions beforehand, so during trip prep, but once I’m there, everything often seems easy.

I’m very careful on the roads, but much less so when hiking, in the water, etc. I love challenges, and when I set a goal, I don’t give up easily.
MU Muriel18 Globetrotter ·
I often ask myself a lot of questions beforehand, so during trip planning, but once I'm there, everything usually seems easy.

Same here... even though in the end, I'm probably less adventurous than you because the questions I ask myself beforehand sometimes make me give up... (and since I don't travel alone, I sometimes have to make compromises too). Muriel
Si tu diffères de moi, mon frère, loin de me léser, tu m'enrichis (Saint Exupéry)
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
I don’t travel alone either, but my husband trusts me and follows me blindly. 😏
TI Titoualsace Veteran ·
To each their own engine.

True enough. 🙂

But I must admit that sometimes I’ve done things I’d now consider reckless. I overthink a lot beforehand—during trip prep—but once I’m there, everything seems easy.

I’m super careful on the roads, but way less so when hiking, swimming, etc. I love a challenge, and once I set a goal, I don’t give up easily.

I totally get it, and we could shake on it. Bernard.
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TI Titoualsace Veteran ·
I often ask myself a lot of questions beforehand, so during the trip preparation, but once I'm there, everything often seems easy.

Same here... even though in the end, I'm probably less adventurous than you because the questions I ask myself beforehand sometimes make me give up... (and since I don't travel alone, I sometimes have to make compromises too). Muriel

Hello Muriel. It's true, when you're alone, you're only responsible for yourself—it's simpler. If you ask too many questions, you end up overcomplicating things, and of course, there's the risk of giving up because you just don't have all the answers. I always tell myself: "Enough already, I'm going!" It's like skydiving—if you ask too many questions, you'll never jump out of the plane.😉 Bernard.
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MU Muriel18 Globetrotter ·
Hi Bernard,

I always tell myself: "That’s it, I’m leaving!"

Fortunately, I don’t give up that often... you just need to replace your "always" with an "almost always" 😉. Muriel
Si tu diffères de moi, mon frère, loin de me léser, tu m'enrichis (Saint Exupéry)
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
I don’t travel alone either, but my husband trusts me and follows me blindly.😏

Love is beautiful .... 😛
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RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
Me too, I don’t travel alone, but my husband trusts me and follows me blindly. 😏

Love is beautiful .... 😛

I gathered that for you, it’s the opposite—your wife follows you blindly... but in that case, it’s reckless... 😏 😏 😏
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RJ Rjulie95 Globetrotter ·
I thought I understood that with you, it's the opposite—it's your wife who blindly follows you... but in that case, it's reckless... 😏 😏 😏

In my opinion, compared to Marati, whose wife always trusts him 🏴‍☠️, Montagnard is a walk in the park 😏
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RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
I thought I understood that with you, it's the opposite—it's your wife who blindly follows you... but in this case, that’s just reckless... 😏 😏 😏

In my opinion, compared to Marati, whose wife always trusts him 🏴‍☠️, a mountaineer is a walk in the park 😏

Yeah, but I thought I understood that Guillaume’s wife is going to leave him... for the good of the whole family 🤪, while Bruno’s wife is hanging on 😏.
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MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
I gathered that for you, it’s the opposite—your wife blindly follows you... but in that case, it’s reckless... 😏 😏 😏

In my opinion, compared to Marati, whose wife always trusts him 🏴‍☠️, Montagnard is a joke 😏

Yeah, but I got the impression that Guillaume’s wife is going to leave him... for the good of the whole family 🤪, while Bruno’s wife is holding on 😏.

She’s holding on because I listen to her... a little... And also, after 23 years, how do I put it, I know the boundaries I can push... But mostly, I don’t see myself traveling alone. I tried it once, and it sucked...
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux." Marcel Proust
DI Diamina Globetrotter ·
Yes, but I thought I understood that Guillaume’s is about to give out...,

It’s Franck’s that doesn’t want to travel with him anymore... too worn out, poor thing!
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MA Marati Globetrotter ·
Wait, aren’t you exaggerating a bit 🏴‍☠️?? We’ve always made it back by 5 so far 😏!! But yeah, that time with the Sentinel Peak ladder in the middle of a storm or the hike in the snow was pushing it a bit. Though, like Max says, you only remember the good stuff. 😉
MA Marati Globetrotter ·
And then after 23 years, how can I put it, I know the framework where I can play....

Cool, in a year, I’ll have reached your level of wisdom...... or not 🤪 Yeah, '98 was the best year—with, in order of the best things I’ve experienced: the World Cup victory and meeting my wife. Or the other way around, I can’t remember...
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
And after 23 years, how can I put it, I know the framework where I can play....

Cool, in a year, I’ll have reached your wisdom...... or not 🤪

Wisdom at 42? You’re really going for it....
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TI Titoualsace Veteran ·
Hello. I’m still searching for wisdom. Wisdom’s great as long as you avoid being too reasonable😉. Bernard.
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MA Marati Globetrotter ·
Wisdom at 42?

Huge clarification: I didn’t write "wisdom" but "your wisdom"... and about a very specific topic.
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
I wouldn’t dream of claiming any wisdom here... At the very least, a little listening goes a long way... 😉
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TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
18.10. Guadalupe – along the Rio Grande, night in the car

We leave Guadalupe at seven with Celia and take about half an hour to reach the first Mirador. The view of the Ciudad da Roma cathedral is stunning! We stay a little while before getting back in the car.



At the first Mirador

We stop several times to take photos. Then, Celia has us pull over below a hill with pretty rock formations. We hike up and move from one viewpoint to another. The panorama is exceptional!

Luckily, we have Celia with us—we wouldn’t have found all these viewpoints on our own. She directs us left, we climb a little further, and there we discover the second cathedral. We’d only ever seen one cathedral in photos, so we’re surprised to find there are two. The second cathedral looks even more like a real one—it’s incredible. We’re fascinated; these are without a doubt the most beautiful rock formations we’ve ever seen in our lives.











The two cathedrals The first cathedral

and the second cathedral

On the way back, Celia has us stop—she wants to show us an arch. Then, we drop her off in Guadalupe and take the opportunity to buy some eggs and a kind of corned beef before heading to San Antonio de Esmoruco. We don’t stop and take the track to Río Mojón. The track climbs in elevation; it’s wide, but the corrugated surface is everywhere. Along the way, we pull over for a second breakfast. From here, we can see the back of Ciudad da Roma. The view is pretty, but still not as beautiful as from this morning’s viewpoint.









One of the many cemeteries
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
After Río Mojón, we discovered extraordinary landscapes. We never would’ve thought we’d find such scenery in Bolivia. The colors are incredible—it’s a feast for the eyes! The track winds between rock formations, climbing, turning, descending, then climbing again and descending once more. It’s one of the most beautiful routes of our trip. For Benoît, it’s the most beautiful. What’s more, it’s very drivable, and we didn’t come across a single other car.

































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TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
We stop a few kilometers before Río Seco and go for a walk in a canyon. The rock formations are stunning—we feel like we’re in the Moab region of the United States.









After Río Seco, the rock formations are still really pretty, but they were even more beautiful between Río Mojón and Río Seco. When we reach Casa Grande, we can either take the track that mostly runs through the riverbed or the one that overlooks it. We decide on the latter. The track is fairly smooth and winds along the Río Grande. This river forms the border between Bolivia and Argentina.















We pass through several small hamlets with farms. At 5 PM, we settle by the Río Grande. The view of the mountains on the Argentine side is beautiful—what a perfect spot! We heat up a plate of pasta and freshen up in the riverbed. We’ve descended quite a bit in altitude, so it’s not cold at all.

Around 10 PM, the sound of an engine wakes us up. A large vehicle is driving through the riverbed and seems to be looking for a way out. We’re still half-asleep and don’t immediately understand what’s happening. We think of smugglers—we’re not exactly reassured. The vehicle approaches, lights us up with its bright headlights, slows down a little, and finally passes about twenty meters away without stopping. Phew, it was just a big tractor, probably a farmer heading home late. We can go back to sleep.











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MU Muriel18 Globetrotter ·
It's all really beautiful... and probably even more so in person than in photos ;) Muriel
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TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Yes, this region is truly magnificent! We have no regrets at all about doing our "tour" of the South Lipez in this direction.

I think we’re the first on the forum to have gone between Río Mojón and Río Seco. Other travelers either turned back onto the main track (the track between Tupiza and Quetena Chico) or took the shortcut down from Ciudad da Roma directly to Río Seco.
RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
Looking at your photos, I thought they looked like some spots in the USA, which you confirm 😉. It’s truly stunning—these landscapes are so different from the ones we saw earlier (lagunas, salt flats, volcanoes...). Wow! Bolivia has some amazing discoveries in store 😎.
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MA Max68 Globetrotter ·
I think we’re the first on the forum to have gone through Río Mojón

yep, on my map there isn’t even a track marked running along the Argentina border from Río Mojón. 😉

The track along the border is still just as stunning and in great condition. We’d also followed it, but only from Río Seco. It’s surprising no one goes that way.

Thanks for the gorgeous photos—definitely some of the most beautiful landscapes on the planet, in my opinion 😛 🙂
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DI Diamina Globetrotter ·
Hi Carmen, What I love about your travel journal is that it’s truly a hymn to the beauty of rocks, earth, and lagoons—those unreal colors that add even more to the landscape. There isn’t a ton of vegetation everywhere that hides the beauty of the ground.

This part of the Americas around the desert regions (the U.S. Southwest and the Andes) will definitely be my playground for years to come. Thanks for these amazing discoveries. I’ll take note of the directions so I can head back to the South Lipez very soon. Thanks again so much.
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TI Titoualsace Veteran ·
Hi Carmen. Your photos are always stunning, thank you so much—what a joy! Bernard.
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TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Hi Jean-François,

Yep, on my map there isn’t even a track marked running along the Argentine border from Río Mojón. 😉

I don’t know what map you’re using, but on Maps.me the track is clearly visible. It’s not right on the border—it’s slightly inland.

We’d planned to take the Guadalupe – Ciudad da Roma – Río Seco track, the same one you took, but Delhenry, who passed through in August, strongly advised against it. He had to move rocks several times, and the track was in really rough shape. After his message, I looked for an alternative. Via Río Mojón, it’s a longer drive, but the scenery is absolutely stunning. Plus, going that way lets you see Ciudad da Roma from the other side.

The track along the border is still just as beautiful and in just as good condition. We also followed it, but only from Río Seco. It’s surprising no one takes that route more often.

Yeah, the track after Río Seco is nice, but the scenery is even more breathtaking before (if you’re coming from Guadalupe) or after (if you’re coming from Tupiza). 😉 But following the Río Grande is really great—you’ll come across quite a few small farms.

It’s definitely, in my opinion, among the most beautiful landscapes on our planet 😛 🙂

I agree with you. 🙂

Carmen
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Hi there,

You're absolutely right to go back. I imagine you'll be doing a self-drive trip to have a bit more freedom.

Carmen
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
19.10. Rio Grande – Tupiza, Mitru Hotel

We wake up at six o’clock—it was much warmer last night than the previous nights. A few cows cross the riverbed from Argentina to graze on the grass in Bolivia. The sky is overcast; the sunrise is a miss.

We want to empty our 60-liter gas can into the car’s tank. Benoît follows the instructions from the forum and Biz to the letter, but this time, he can’t get it to work. After several attempts, we decide to leave and ask for help along the way. The track follows the Rio Grande and climbs to Mojinete. We stop in the village square, and a man comes over to talk to us. We take the opportunity to ask for his help emptying the gas can, but he can’t do it either. He asks us to detach the can and place it on the trunk in the bed of the pickup. Finally, the gas starts flowing, and we can empty the can completely. Several young guys come to see what’s going on. They’re completely wasted—it’s pretty sad at eight in the morning.

The track follows the Rio Grande

Between Mojinete and Villa Candelaria, the track winds through the mountains. A young guy is hitchhiking, so we pick him up. The track climbs a dizzying pass. The many tight turns offer an extraordinary view of the valley and the Rio Grande. We drop the guy off at a crossroads—he’s not far from his village now. After passing the dizzying pass and until the pass that descends to Cucho, the landscape isn’t very interesting. The track goes up and down, with yellow and green hills stretching on. Fortunately, there are plenty of llamas and vicuñas to observe. The small lake and stream at Mina Candelaria seem polluted—the water has a strange color.



One of the many cacti in bloom

The landscape isn’t as interesting around here

The descent to Cucho is beautiful—cacti are everywhere, and the rocks have a lovely color. It feels like Arizona. In Cucho, we drive in the riverbed for a little while. It’s best not to take this track during the rainy season. After leaving the riverbed, the track climbs again before joining the main road connecting San Pedro de Lipez to Tupiza.





The El Sillar rock formations are below us, but the sky is still cloudy, so the colors aren’t very vibrant. Since we’ve been on the main track, we’ve encountered corrugated iron-like bumps. Just before Tupiza, we turn left onto a tiny track to reach the El Sillar formations from below. There are many small farms in this valley. At the end of the track, we stop and go for a walk in the canyon.









At 3 PM, we arrive at the Mitru Hotel in Tupiza. Being in a town—even a small one—feels strange. We can park the car in the courtyard, so it’ll be safe for the next two days. After a good shower, we go for a walk in town and grab a pizza.

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TI Titoualsace Veteran ·
Hi Carmen. It’s still just as fascinating to follow—thanks, Bernard.
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TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
20.10. Tupiza, Mitru Hotel

Today is presidential election day. During elections, driving is banned—buses are stopped, and planes are grounded. Basically, the whole city has become pedestrian-only. After breakfast, we book a horseback ride in the Tupiza canyon for this afternoon. Then, we wander around the city center. It’s really nice without cars. Families are strolling, elderly folks are chatting, sitting on the sidewalks or public benches.







On the street where the electoral building is, there’s a small market. People are sitting at tables, eating dishes prepared at the little stalls. The meat and fish left out in the sun don’t exactly tempt us to do the same. We head to a restaurant to eat grilled meat with potatoes and rice. There’s also a salad buffet, but we skip it. We haven’t gotten sick so far—it’d be a shame to take risks at the end of the trip.







At 2 PM, a young woman comes to pick us up and walk us to the stables, which are twenty minutes from the Mitru Hotel. Yep—with the driving ban, everyone’s on foot. Lucky for us, we’ll have this ride all to ourselves with a young guide.

Our horses seem to know the route by heart. We pass near the dump, where some kids are rummaging through the trash. First stop at the Devil’s Gate. We dismount to explore the area and climb a bit higher.





The Devil’s Gate

The second stop is at the bottom of the canyon, where there are some pretty rock formations. Back at the stable, we walk back to the hotel. Along the way, we pass quite a few people. One of the many stray dogs in the street comes toward us and nips Benoît’s calf. 😮 He yelps, the dog lets go and runs off. His pants are damp with the dog’s saliva, but luckily, the injury isn’t too bad. A fang pierced the skin, and the small wound is bleeding a little. Back at the hotel, Benoît cleans the wound and applies disinfectant. Since we’ll be in Switzerland in three days, we skip looking for a hospital to get the rabies treatment.



















In the evening, we go to an Italian restaurant right next to the hotel. The vegetable lasagna we ordered is disgusting. 🏴‍☠️ We add salt and pepper to try to improve the taste, but it’s no use—the lasagna is inedible. So, for the first time in our lives, we leave a restaurant without eating. We head back to the pizzeria from the night before and order an extra-large pizza to go. We settle into the hotel lounge and watch the election results on TV. Not all the ballots have been counted yet, but based on the early results, a runoff should happen. Good—we’ll likely have fewer issues getting back to Sucre.
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
It’s still so exciting to follow—thanks!

Thanks Bernard, it’s great to have such a dedicated reader. 🙂
RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
It's nice to have taken this little horseback ride 😎
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DI Diamina Globetrotter ·
Hi Carmen,

I never imagined that stray dogs in South America could be aggressive!! I’ll be careful from now on. So far, I’ve always had the dog that follows me in a friendly way!

Why is there a ban on vehicle and plane circulation in Bolivia on election day? Weird, right?

Anyway, that horseback ride sounds great. I wanted to do one in Tupiza, but Jf was really sick all night before, so my ride fell through.

Thanks for this nice feedback.
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Hi Carmen, Thanks for this follow-up. I imagined Tupiza as less spread out and, without being pejorative, less equipped. I’ve never ridden a horse, but apparently, their docility should suit beginners like me. I hope there won’t be any consequences from that bite. I’ve always been wary of dogs—some are calm and often obedient, especially when faced with authority and respect for the hand that feeds them—but I have my doubts about what they consider "kindness." Thanks again for this story that makes me dream and helps me plan my own trip. I’m unsure if I’ll be able to leave as planned in early November, with the elections being postponed and the pandemic spreading more and more in South America, especially with the arrival of the austral winter. Things are starting to look dicey. For now, I’m just working on my itinerary—time will tell. Bernard.
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TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Nice to have done this little horseback ride 😎

Yeah, three hours of a relaxed ride. A bit too relaxed for my taste.[;]
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Hi there, 🙂

I never imagined that stray dogs in South America could be aggressive!! I’ll be careful from now on. So far, I’ve always had dogs following me in a friendly way!

We saw a lot of stray dogs during our trip and didn’t have any problems with them. Still, as a precaution, we didn’t pet them. The one that bit Benoît seemed to belong to a family, so you’d think it would be vaccinated against rabies. But you can never be sure—rabies is unfortunately still quite common in Bolivia. When Benoît started screaming, the family didn’t come over to get the dog. They just called it and left. Another man came up to us; he seemed sorry, but there wasn’t much more he could do.

Why is there a ban on vehicle and airplane circulation in Bolivia on election day? Weird, right?

I don’t know. All Peruvians have to vote—could that be one of the reasons? You can ask them on your next trip.

Anyway, that horseback ride looks fun. I wanted to do one in Tupiza, but Jf was super sick all night before, so my ride fell through.

I remember your travel journal. You really didn’t have luck with those recurring stomach issues.🙁 You’ve just got to go back...😉

Carmen
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Hi Bernard,

Thanks for this follow-up. I imagined Tupiza as less spread out and, without being pejorative, less equipped.

Tupiza has everything—hotels, shops, several offices to book excursions, a market, a hospital... but no rabies vaccine.

I’ve never ridden a horse, but apparently, the docility of these ones should suit beginners like me.

Ours were calm but a bit too hungry at times. When they found grass, it was hard to get them moving. Worse than donkeys... 😄

I hope there won’t be any consequences from this bite.

No serious consequences. We went to the emergency room when we got back to Switzerland—several shots and the vaccination. I’ll talk about it more in the next part of the travel journal. Rabies is still a deadly disease; once the first symptoms appear, you’re done for. We found information on the Lausanne travel medicine service’s website. The incubation period is at least 4 days. We were told it’s hard to find a hospital for the vaccine in Bolivia—you have to go to a big city like Santa Cruz or La Paz... Luckily, he wasn’t bitten in the middle of nowhere, like in the South Lipez—it would’ve been complicated to handle. Still, our travel insurance would’ve taken care of things: finding a hospital for treatment, even sending medication by plane if needed, and in the worst case, repatriation. But it still ruins your trip.

I have doubts about being able to leave as planned in early November, with the elections postponed and the pandemic spreading more and more in South America, especially with the arrival of the austral winter. It’s all starting to feel risky. For now, I’m just working on my itinerary—we’ll see what happens.

Yes, it’s hard to plan trips this year. For us, Peru is off the table—we were supposed to leave in mid-May. You still have time for November, though. I hope you can go.

Carmen

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