Cette question concerne plus particulièrement mon ami...Son entreprise, pour le remercier du travail accompli, lui offre une semaine de vacances en Afrique du Sud: parc Kruger, visite du Cap...Merci patron!
Or, ils lui ont donné une liste de conseils de sécurité qui donne le tournis en particulier au Cap: interdiction de se promener à pied, interdiction de sortir sans taxi sécurisé appelé par le guide, interdiction de sortir de l'hôtel le soir, nécessité de n'ouvrir la porte qu'à des gens connus (avec limite mot de passe...), interdiction de... 😮 etc, etc...
Or, mon ami aime avant tout, dans les voyages, le contact avec la population locale, l'ouverture à l'autre, etc...(tout en respectant des principes de sécurité, évidemment), et cette série de "conseils" jette une vraie ombre sur ce voyage dont il se réjouissait.
La question est donc: est-ce que sa boite exagère afin d'éviter tout problème et s'exonérer de toute responsabilité, ou bien la situation est-elle réellement à ce point dangereuse?
Merci d'avance pour vos réponses et éclaircissements...
pas du tout captouwn et pire joburg sont consideres depuis plusieurs annees comme les villes les plus hard d afrique
dans ces villes les contacts avec la population il vaut mieux oublier
apres en brousee different
a plus
jipi le zanatany
le voyage permet de garder l esprit ouvert aux autres
cassandre 972
bonsoir
une fois j'etais arnaqué sur les rives du bosphore à ISTANBUL ...j'ai interrompu mon voyage..pour rebondir
de nouveau et voyager ..un peu partout et à chaque opprtunité...mais avec une nouvelle recette de voyage
touristique securisé...à new york, manille, le caire, dakar...ou ailleurs...
on ne doit pas se faire apercevoir comme touriste...faire un profil bas.. etre guidé par un sud africain pour
le cas de figure... ne pas renoncer à decouvrir capetown...passer inapercu pour de bonnes vacances..
ceci est valable pour tous les pays...
njm
Bien sûr, mais ces règles de sécurité sont valables un peu partout...Rester discret et pas sortir le camescope à tout coin de rue...etc...etc...
Je pensais à des règles de sécurité particulières...car ne pas pouvoir se promener du tout à pied, c'est pas l'idéal non plus (et je ne parle pas de se promener dans des quartiers dangereux, non, juste ne pas dépendre du guide pour tout, aller seul quelque part, dans des quartiers plus sûrs, etc...)
cassandre972
vous mentionnez que c'est une offre de l"entreprise pour le travail accompli par son employé..
destination afrique du sud...
or cette offre orientée vers l'afrique du sud...un beau pays...securisé pour le touriste...ou pas c'est une autre question...on ne refuse pas une offre pareille..toutefois on peut se demander les criteres de choix de l'entreprise...apres tout pourquoi pas l'ile maurice ...les seychelles...ou autres ...bref consulter l'interessé
lui proposer ... un choix de destinations ......à titre de recompense ...
njm
Le voyage est déjà totalement organisé, en fait...Impossible de négocier...L'an passé, mon ami est parti au Mexique. L'année d'avant, certains sont partis au Kenya, mais ils avaient là aussi interdiction de se déplacer seuls, et étaient sans cesse encadrés par des rangers...(enfin, l'équivalent).
Bien sûr, il ira, hors de question de refuser, mais il faut apparemment qu'il se prépare à vivre un genre de voyage dont il n'a pas l'habitude (nous aimons rencontrer les gens, quels qu'ils soient)
salut
si j osais, mais je suis surement d une autre epoque, mais je ne pense pas que j aurais accepte ce voyage mais je parle en homme fondamentalement independant ma profession me l a autorise mais je reconnais que ceci est un privilege difficile a l heure actuelle
en effet un voyage sans rencontre est ce reelement un voyage, comme je plains les "bidochons" des clubs meds (les senegalais disent club merde) ou autres formes de voyage en troupeau qui est l oppose de ce que j attend d un voyage mais ceci est une autre histoire
bon cance a ton ami et j espere qu il fera qqes rencontres quand meme !!
jipi le zanatany
le voyage permet de garder l esprit ouvert aux autres
Oui, ce serait difficile, et malgré tout sans doute regrettable, de refuser...Cela lui permettra d'avoir une première approche, même imparfaite, de ce pays.
Il a apprécié son voyage au Mexique, parce que même s'ils étaient totalement encadrés niveau visite par une hystérique, il a pu s'échapper quelques heures par ci par là pour rencontrer les mexicains et passer des moments avec eux. Il n'allait pas se plaindre de ce voyage tous frais payés, et il a dormi dans des endroits paradisiaques que nous ne nous offrirons jamais...
je suis allé en afrique du sud en janvier 2006 3 semaines dans la ville du cap et la route des jardins Ce problème lu partout m'enguoissait un peu. Sur place des vigiles et des panneaux apposé sur la portes des propriétés "réponse armée".
J'ai pas regretté mon voyage et je dois vous dire que je ne me suis jamais senti en insécurité au Cap. Nous avions loué une voiture et j'allais en ville tous les soirs dans le quartier des boites et des resto sans absolument aucun problème. On filait une pièce à un noir qui surveillait la voiture pendant notre repas (à donner au retour)
La ville du cap est une ville absolument merveilleuse mais oubliez cette mauvaise impression et mauvaise réputation qui n'est pas fondée. Il faut néanmoins toujours rester vigilant et éviter certains endroits la nuit tombée mais se serait vraiment très très dommage de rester qu'au waterfront.De même évitez si vous vous promenez en ville d'étre habillé avec sac vuiton et montre Rolex. C'est une question de bon sens. Ayez toujours un peu d'argent liquide sur vous si par hasard il vous arrivait quelquechose mais surtout ne flippez pas. les vrais problèmes d'insécurité sont plutôt dans les towns ships (drogue, alcool, chomage)(j'en ai visité un mais il faut le faire accompagné et là non plus aucun problème )A la campagne pareil je n'ai jamais ressenti la moindre angoisse ni la moindre insecurité. simplement ne jamais prendre d'auto stoppeur. Par contre je ne suis pas allé a jo burg ni durban ou la situation est parait beaucoup plus problèmatique mais le cap pas de problèmes!!
J'ai la chance de pouvoir pas mal voyager dans ma vie et je peux vous dire que l'afrique du Sud est un pays qui m'a beaucoup marqué par sa beauté et que j'ai vraiment beaucoup aimé. Cerise sur le gateau on y mange très bien et leurs vins sont fantastiques l'acceuil est aussi super sympa!!!😏
bonjour!
Je pense que pour tout voyage, et tous pays il faut, quand au problème de sécurité, savoir RELATIVISER et bien sur rester conscient des dangers réels;j'ai des amis qui ont traversé le NIGERIA pays réputé à haut risque;sans problème! BEAUCOUP sur ce forum vous dirons la meme chose pour d'autres destinations dites "dangereuses!
Pesonnellement, je suis resté à captown plus d'un mois, sans le moindre incident ;MAIS c'était il y a 10ans!;ceci dit, déjà alors qu'elle ne fut pas ma surprise, quand le soir, voulant sortir pour aller au resto, la responsable de mon hotel me dit:"de ne pas sortir le soir après 19heures car il y a trop de bandes de jeunes plus ou mois drogués (à la colle qu'ils sniffent )et qui agressent ou volent les touristes !!".Elle me montre, en effet de petits groupes déjà formés sur la, pourtant agréable, place de"greenmarket"!.Alors que dans la journée (à lépoque!)tout était calme et si agréable, avec comme le dit si bien;DZINET, le cap est superbe, les gens agéables, le vin délicieux, une région à voir malgré les réserves émises jacques.
Bonjour "cassandre"! 🙂
Je suis en train de finaliser notre voyage à 2 en Af.du S et ns ferons un saut -> Cape town et les environs !
Aux avertissements, justement il y a l'antidote :suivre les conseils et principalemt de ne pas sortir le soir sauf ds les endroits que l'on te conseille !
Lis les discussions sur ce forum ainsi que les carnets de voyage, cela devrait de vous rassurer - toi et ton ami ( d'autant que vs avez déjà voyagé au Brésil et au Mexique qui ne sont pas - d'après ce que j'ai lu- des pays particulièremt sûrs 😕 ) !
Comme je vois que toutes les personnes qui t'ont répondu jusqu'ici sont des touristes, je vais me joindre à la discution en apportant le point de vue de quelqu'un qui vit en Afrique du Sud, depuis 27 ans!, et qui n'en partirait pour rien au monde! De plus je vis à Durban dont on te dis que c'est "pire".
Tout d'abord: oui, c'est vrai, la société sud-africaine est une société dangereuse, traumatisée par son passé, vivant une transition qui semble s'éterniser, nourrie de peurs et d'incertitude et pour certains de nostalgies mal gérées. La chute de l'apartheid a mis l'une en face de l'autre des communautés raciales et linguistiques qui ne se connaissaient pas et nourrissaient les unes à l'égard des autres une égale mesure de haine et d'incompréhension, ceci pendant des générations. La chute du régime ne s'est pas faite dans le sang, ce que tout le monde redoutait. Sans valoriser outre mesure les effets cathartiques d'un conflit réglé par les armes, il n'en est pas moins vrai qu'on assiste aujourd'hui à une sorte de "guerre civile" au compte-goutte qui me semble être une version édulcorée en quelque sorte - et étendue dans la durée plutôt que centrée sur des événements qui font la une. C'est ce que nous vivons, nous, ici. Il serait faux toutefois de croire que la violence dont vous entendez parlé en termes si alarmants est une vengeance de noirs contre blancs. C'est beaucoup plus complexe que ça et je ne vais pas vous faire un cours là-dessus sur ce forum (au fait, je suis prof d'université, d'où ma tendance à expliquer les choses). Disons que le tissu social a été déchiré, profondément, dans toutes les communautés et que des degrés différents de colère et de frustration sont alors projetés au hasard sur des victimes tout à fait innocentes.
Les panneaux 'réponse armée' qu'on voit sur les maisons (et bien sûr sur la mienne aussi) indique que la propriété est protégée par une société de sécurité qui, en cas d'alarme, s'engage à envoyer sur les lieux au plus vite des hommes armés. Pourquoi pratiquement toutes les habitations ont ce genre de panneau? C'est parce que la plupart des assurrances refusent d'assurer les propriétés si un tel système n'est pas installé. Pourquoi les agents sont armés? Parce que les types qui cambriolent le sont aussi. C'est une industrie qui fait fortune!
Il faut mettre dans le contexte les précautions pour le moins paralysantes que reçoivent les touristes en partance pour ce pays. Lorsqu'un touriste se fait gravement agressé, la nouvelle passe à la une et fait immédiatement le tour des agences de presse, et en particulier dans le pays du ressortissant. Résultat: un manque à gagner certain pour l'industrie touristique sud-africaine! Les agresseurs ayant, comme partout dans le monde, l'oeil pour repérer le touriste, vous êtes tous beaucoup plus vulnérables que moi (d'autant plus que moi je sais identifer les types potentiellement à problèmes). Les agences de voyage ont donc des consignes précises, que vous retrouvez au passage de douane et à la réception des hôtels, pour avertir les visiteurs.
Alors voilà ce que je prédis: ton ami va partir pour Cape Town (parce que franchement ça ne se refuse pas), il va y passer un séjour formidable et la première chose qu'il te dira au retour, c'est qu'il faut absolument que vous retourniez ensemble!
Alors bon voyage à lui, et toi ne te ronge pas les ongles en l'attendant.
Mazarine
"The miracle is not to fly in the air or to walk on the water, but to walk on earth" Chinese proverb
Je suis entièrement d'accord avec tout ce que tu as écris, l'afrique du sud est un super pays mais certainement un pays ou les risques de vols et d'agressions sont très nombreux, il faut vraiment faire attention et cela est vrai de ce que tu dis concernant les pancartes sur les propriétés et tous les barbelés électrifiés que nous pouvons voir autour des maisons!!!!😕
Il est vrai que l'Afrique du sud me fait penser un peu à Miami et la Floride, une protection totale pour les haitants regroupés et des milices pour les surveiller!!!!
Mais, en suivant les conseils des autorités ou autres et surtout éviter de sortir la nuit, il n'y a pas de pbl majeur!!!!
Il ne faut surtout pas se priver de découvrire ce pays qui est quand même très diversifier!!😎
Amicalement
Tant que la couleur de la peau sera plus importante que la couleur des yeux, nous ne connaitrons pas la paix.
J'ajouterai un petit commentaire à ce que tu dis de la "protection totale": ce n'est pas vrai ici. C'est un fait établi que toutes les mesures de protection disponibles n'assurent pas du tout une protection totale. La philosophie qu'il faut adopter ici, c'est: s'ils veulent entrer, ils entreront mais ils entreront peut-être dans la propriété d'à côté surtout si elle est moins bien protégée. D'autre part, autre précision à ton commentaire: les habitants soi-disant protégés ne sont pas "groupés". La violence touche toutes les catégories de la population et tous les quartiers à des degrés différents. La seule différence, c'est que les gens pauvres des townships n'ont pas les moyens de se payer une protection quelconque, ils sont donc beaucoup plus vulnérables. Les milices privées sont en partie le produit de la défaillance de la police à assurer un minimun de protection à la population mais les services qu'elles offrent déterminent par leur coût le type de personne qui pourra en profiter. La ségrégation raciale a été remplacée par une ségrégation d'argent, un phénomène mondial s'il en est. Ceci dit, si je pouvais prendre le risque, je me passerais bien de mon entreprise de protection. C'est cher, les fausses alarmes sont fréquentes, le service d'assistance technique est généralement sous-traité par des incapables. Mais comprend-moi bien quand je parle de risque: si j'annule mon contrat je n'ai aucune certitude qu'il ne se passera pas, peu de temps après, une petite incursion chez moi (discrètement fomentée par quelque employé de l'entreprise en question). Par contre: les fils electriques, JAMAIS!
Amicalement,
Mazarine
"The miracle is not to fly in the air or to walk on the water, but to walk on earth" Chinese proverb
J'ajouterai un petit commentaire à ce que tu dis de la "protection totale": ce n'est pas vrai ici. C'est un fait établi que toutes les mesures de protection disponibles n'assurent pas du tout une protection totale. La philosophie qu'il faut adopter ici, c'est: s'ils veulent entrer, ils entreront mais ils entreront peut-être dans la propriété d'à côté surtout si elle est moins bien protégée. D'autre part, autre précision à ton commentaire: les habitants soi-disant protégés ne sont pas "groupés". La violence touche toutes les catégories de la population et tous les quartiers à des degrés différents. La seule différence, c'est que les gens pauvres des townships n'ont pas les moyens de se payer une protection quelconque, ils sont donc beaucoup plus vulnérables. Les milices privées sont en partie le produit de la défaillance de la police à assurer un minimun de protection à la population mais les services qu'elles offrent déterminent par leur coût le type de personne qui pourra en profiter. La ségrégation raciale a été remplacée par une ségrégation d'argent, un phénomène mondial s'il en est. Ceci dit, si je pouvais prendre le risque, je me passerais bien de mon entreprise de protection. C'est cher, les fausses alarmes sont fréquentes, le service d'assistance technique est généralement sous-traité par des incapables. Mais comprend-moi bien quand je parle de risque: si j'annule mon contrat je n'ai aucune certitude qu'il ne se passera pas, peu de temps après, une petite incursion chez moi (discrètement fomentée par quelque employé de l'entreprise en question). Par contre: les fils electriques, JAMAIS!
Amicalement,
Mazarine
Re bonjour!!!
Ce que je voulais dire, c'est qu'il vous faut en permance de nouvelles techniques de plus en plus élaborées pour disuader les voleurs et cela vous coutent de plus en cher pour pouvoir espérer avoir une garantie de sécurité qui à mon sens n'est pas totale bien sur!!!! mais, il me semble bien avoir vu des propriétés dan la région du Cap protégées sur le haut des murs par de fils électrifiés, es tu sur de toi!!!!🙂
Cela ne doit pas être facile de vivre dans ce pays, quand j'y suis allé en 2003, il y avait une ségrégation envres les blancs, je m'explique cela voulait dire que dans tous les sec-teurs et surtout celui de l'hôtelerie, il fallait un quota de personnel de couleur noire et les blancs même si ils étaient meuilleurs n'étaient pas pris!!!!
Voila amicalement
Tant que la couleur de la peau sera plus importante que la couleur des yeux, nous ne connaitrons pas la paix.
J'ai visité 4 fois le Cap, en autonome, en logeant dans le même hôtel du centre ville (Tudor hotel, greenmarket square). J'étais avec mes enfants (le + jeune ayant 1 an). Je n'ai jamais eu de pb de sécurité (attention à la parano du genre "n'ouvrez la porte à personne, ...").
Si des "street kids" shootés errent parfois dans les environs, la dernière fois, en 2006, j'en avais vu bcp moins que la fois précédente en 2003. Et en 2006, je m'étais plus promené le soir que les fois précédentes.
Bref, il ne faut pas stresser, et ce d'autant moins que la ville est magnifique et que les gens "y vivent " normalement (sortent, vont boire un pot le soir, vont au restaurant, ...).
Nicolas
Merci à tous pour vos réponses relativement rassurantes...
Je ne peux pas suivre cette conversation comme je le souhaiterais - nous sommes soumis à des coupures niveau internet- mais vos contributions sont très intéressantes.
Nous vivons en Guyane, et connaissons aussi de façon assez concrète ce que peut être l'insécurité, la volonté de se protéger toujours plus, etc...En suivant quleques principes de bon sens, tout devrait bien se passer...
Oui, les quotas existent toujours et la politique de "l'affirmative action" est en vigueur dans tous les domaines. D'après les statistiques il semblerait que l'économie est encore très largement aux mains des Blancs.
Oui, ici aussi bien sûr le fil électrique règne! Mais non, je tiens bon. Je ne veux pas vivre enfermée (parce que c'est exactement ce que ça voudrait dire).? J'ai aussi foutu en l'air les grilles de prison que j'avais aux fenêtres de la maison que j'ai achetée il y a 4 ans et je les ai équipées de verre anti-bris. Ma philosophie à moi est un peu spéciale en ce sens qu'elle est le résultat d'une expérience très traumatisante que j'ai vécue et qui aurait fait s'enfuir la plupart des gens que je connais. Mais je suis restée et c'est dans ma tête que j'applique ma méthode de protection. J'ai 5 locataires, tous Noirs, dont une jeune fille qui vit avec moi. Mais ça aussi, les gens que je connais ne le feraient pas. J'ai la chance de ne pas être née ici, je n'ai pas le poids de l'apartheid sur les épaules et mes petits jeunes se sentent très bien acceptés chez moi.
Oui, parfois ce n'est pas facile de vivre ici, il y a une forme de stress insidieux qui vient du fait qu'on doit la plupart du temps être sur ses gardes. Mais on prend l'habitude. Et puis c'est un pays unique parce que son passé a été unique.
Amicalement,
Mazarine
"The miracle is not to fly in the air or to walk on the water, but to walk on earth" Chinese proverb
Avant de partir j'aime bien m'imprégner de la culture d'un pays.Aussi J'avais trouvé très intéressant et très émouvant de lire la bibliographie de Nelson Mandela : Dans son livre Jacques Lang explique très bien les problèmes soulevés par Mazarine Dans ce contexte la visite de district 6 à Capetown et d'un township est un passage obligé si on veut comprendre ce pays plein de paradoxes. En tout cas pour moi ce fut un voyage absolument inoubliable et qui a marqué mon esprit à tout jamais. On en revient différent . C'est aussi la preuve que les voyages vous ouvre l'esprit et vous font voir les problèmes d'un oeil différent . Enfin pour revenir aux problèmes sécuritaires soit votre ami y va "la trouille au ventre" et se limite à visiter les endroits super bien gardés et là il verra de beaux paysages mais il sera loin de toucher à la réalité du pays soit il prend un peu de liberté et ose se risquer à visiter la ville de Capetown et de parler avec les gens et là il sera vraiment conquis au point de vous y emmener la prochaine fois.
Je vais dans quelques jours à Durban, avec mon mari et mon fils de trois ans. J'ai voulu avoir des infos sur le forum mais je dois avouer que maintenant je flippe et je n'aurais pas dû le faire.
Je suis déjà allée deux fois à cape town en 2003 et 2004. J'ai adorée, je suis sortie la nuit en boîte et au resto. Je suis allée au ciné, j'ai marché seule dans le quartier où j'étais hébergée pour acheter du pain le matin ou faire développer des photos. J'ai discuté (mon anglais était pourtant nul)avec des gens que je ne connaissais pas dans la rue et dans un taxi-bus que je prennais plusieurs fois dans la journée. Je sais que je n'aurais jamais fait la même chose à jo'bhurg, je sais également qu'il est important de suivre des règles de sécurité ( en entrant/sortant dans un magasin ou dans une banque vérifier qu'on est pas suivi, pas de sac à main juste un peu de liquide dans ses poches, ne pas marcher dans la rue la nuit mais appeler un taxi (d'ailleurs à plusieurs cela revient moins cher), pas de bijoux ou de choses trop voyantes sur soi, éviter certains quartiers etc.)
C'est vrai j'allais en afrique du sud avec quelques appréhensions (je suis noire et ce pays à pratiqué l'apartheid...)
Mais à quoi sert d'aller dans un pays avec la peur au ventre? Alors à tous:" faites attention, soyez prudents mais pas parrano."
Juste pour Mazarine (et ceux qui peuvent m'en apporter), pouvez-vous me donner quelques infos sur Umhlanga rocks et Hluhluwe-Umfolozi?
Nous espérons également aller au mozambique avec un arrêt de 2 ou 3 jours au swaziland. Est-il possible de prendre un visa au poste frontière?
Quand je suis allée au Mozambique il y a 3 ans j'ai pris mon visa avant de partir. Ce serait peut-être une bonne solution plutôt que de risquer de payer plus à la frontière.
Si tu n'as pas beaucoup de temps, ne t'arrête pas au Swaziland et va directement au Mozambique, c'est nettement mieux à voir.
Umlhanga, rien de particulier à signaler (à mon sens); ça se construit de plus en plus, donc attention: béton! Pour les réserves le mieux c'est que tu ailles sur le site du Parksboard qui regroupe toutes les réserves ou sur le site de celles qui t'intéresse.
Bon voyage!
Mazarine
"The miracle is not to fly in the air or to walk on the water, but to walk on earth" Chinese proverb
Merci à tous ceux qui avaient répondu à ce message...
Mon compagnon est bien sûr rentré enchanté de son séjour, prêt à repartir dès que possible.
Il a particulièrement apprécié le Cap, et ne s'est pas senti particulièrement en danger, même s'il a vu aussi de la misère. Il n'a pas hésité à se mettre à danser dans une soirée où il n'y avait que des noirs, et après un premier mouvement de distance, devant son naturel, tout le monde s'est finalement mis à lui parler et à lui offrir des verres...
Bon, bien sûr, son sac a été visité pendant les transports en avion, mais c'est visiblement plus que fréquent (un tiers des sacs ont été fouillés...) et cela n'a pas jeté d'ombre réelle sur ce fabuleux séjour.
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Hello everyone!
It's been a year since I've been longing for South Africa. Our first trip in August 2025 amazed us, and—rarely—it was a unanimous hit with our little family! We were touched to the core, and from the moment we got home, we couldn’t stop talking about going back. 😄
I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who gave me advice on the itinerary for that first trip (Johannesburg loop: Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, St. Lucia, Durban, Drakensberg)! Thanks to you, our trip went like a dream!
Since then, I haven’t stopped reading articles and discussions on VoyageForum to keep my head in South Africa a little longer!
So, we finally caved and just booked our tickets for January 2027 (from the 3rd to the 26th), with a plan to do a road trip from Cape Town to Johannesburg in about 3 weeks.
I’ve got a rough itinerary that seems great based on what I’ve read on various forums, but there are still some uncertain points, and that’s where I could use your advice.
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM
4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing
5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?)
8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...)
9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?)
11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!)
13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure)
16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...)
18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP
21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!)
22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now...
I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments...
Can’t wait to be back there again!
Just returned from a three-week family trip to Kenya (with three kids aged 10, 12, and 15), and I wanted to share my experience. Forums were super helpful in planning this trip, especially if you want to get a bit off the beaten path.
First off, Kenya is an amazing destination with incredibly friendly and welcoming locals. It was easy to travel around because you can always find someone to give you directions or help you out.
For practical tips—though you’ve probably read this elsewhere—get a Safaricom SIM card when you arrive at the airport so you can pay via M-Pesa (you can top it up with a credit card using the Wise app) and chat with people on WhatsApp. It’ll make your life *so* much easier (booking trains, buses, park entries, etc.) and save you from carrying too much cash or hunting for ATMs.
Also, we went during the first three weeks of July, which wasn’t peak tourist season.
One thing to note: even if you’re using public transport and budget accommodations, Kenya can still be pricey because tourist attractions add up fast—often more expensive than in France. But honestly, it’s usually worth it!
We started our trip with a 5-day homestay. We were welcomed by a really lovely family in Loitokitok with a view of Kilimanjaro right from their garden entrance (just a heads-up: in July, it’s often shrouded in mist!). To find them, search for Greenfield Homestay in Loitokitok. It was a fantastic experience, especially with kids! On top of transfers, they organized several outings with locals: a hike to the Tanzanian border, a motorcycle ride on the foothills of Kilimanjaro, and a day safari in Amboseli. You can book with them eyes closed! For the safari, Anthony (who’s English-speaking) took us around—he’s from the area and knows the park like the back of his hand. Highly recommend him!
Anthony then drove us to Isiolo, a town in the north that’s just starting to open up to tourism. We wanted to see the Monday livestock market, where different ethnic groups gather to buy and sell goats, sheep, and cows (according to Lonely Planet). We were a bit disappointed and wouldn’t recommend it. We also visited Ngare Ndare Forest, which has a stunning waterfall, an interesting walk with an armed ranger (elephants are common), and a suspension bridge for admiring the canopy. Just make sure to let them know you’re coming at least three days in advance to guarantee a ranger will be available. We also did a second safari day in Samburu—it’s a great complement to Amboseli and totally worth it!
Next, we headed to Naivasha (still with Anthony). We found a place on Airbnb (Jasmine House) at Fischerman’s Camp, a campsite we really loved! You’ll spot hippos, monkeys, and beautiful birds there. We organized several activities: a boat ride on the lake to see birds, zebras, and giraffes; a bike safari in Hell’s Gate Park (the campsite is right by the entrance and rents bikes); and a hike to Crater Lake (departing by boat from the campsite), where you walk among zebras, giraffes, and different gazelles. Naivasha is way more touristy than Loitokitok or Isiolo, but there’s no shortage of things to do.
Finally, we spent our last week in Watamu on the coast. To get there, we took an overnight ENA Coach bus from Naivasha to Mombasa, booked via https://www.travler.africa/. It was comfortable and fast, but you’ll need to call the driver to arrange a pickup spot—the restaurant staff at the campsite helped us out with that! Then we took an Uber to Watamu since we had a lot of luggage (we skipped the matatu).
Watamu is nicknamed "Little Italy" because of all the Italian tourists. When we were there (third week of July), it wasn’t peak season yet, so the beaches weren’t cleaned. But we loved the laid-back vibe and how easy it was to get around. We *highly* recommend the marine turtle rescue center—it’s fascinating (especially with kids) and supports a great cause! We were a bit disappointed by the marine park, though—maybe because of the season? There weren’t many fish, and jellyfish kinda ruined the snorkeling. The mangrove tour is also a must-do.
For the trip back to Nairobi, we took the express train from Mombasa. We booked our tickets when we first arrived in Kenya (since payment is only via M-Pesa). The train is reliable and comfortable, and we saw lots of elephants along the way. Just a heads-up: there are *a lot* of security checks, and we almost weren’t allowed to board with our Opinel knife…
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
All in all, we had an amazing trip—so much variety, great encounters, and the magic of safaris!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes.
I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks).
Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate.
Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross.
Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head.
Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes:
Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek?
At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge?
There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls.
I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions.
I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali.
Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha.
I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4.
Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
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We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
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Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works.
I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!!
I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh…
Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car??
If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali?
Thanks so much for your help…
Best regards
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be:
- Hwange
- Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona)
- Mana Pools
- Harare
- Gonarezhou
- Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work.
I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts.
So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza
Ngenda
Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi
Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas)
Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions:
-Is French still widely spoken?
-Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info?
-Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back?
-Is it possible to go hiking solo?
-Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share.
Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind.
I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south:
14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie
17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza
20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara
22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants
25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere.
28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel.
29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance!
Nicole
Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025