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Air France: tarifs de la première classe?
by Sscfbtsd
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Il semble bien que les tarifs Première sur la classe de réservation F aient disparus (au départ de LHR, GVA, MUC, MIL, etc..) et que seule soit réservable la classe P.
Pour exemple, le tarif FRT au départ de GVA vers JFK était de l'ordre de 11'500.- CHF H.T. (la concurrence sur LH/LX/BA est à ce tarif, plus ou moins). Ce tarif n'existe plus depuis le 01.01.2010 et ne subsiste qu'un tarif PRT à plus de 15'000.- CHF (largement plus que la concurrence). C'est encore plus visible au départ de LON où les tarifs en F étaient "abordables" et alignés sur la concurrence. Et je ne parle pas des tarifs Première proposés par EY ou QR sur l'Asie.
Avec une telle politique tarifaire, comment AF compte-t'elle conserver sa position vis-à-vis de la concurrence ? D'autant que la prestation en vol (avec un siège déjà en bout de course) est loin d'égaler les standards des compétiteurs. Je ne parle pas du produit au sol à CDG qui est d'excellente qualité (j'ai eu la chance de le tester en décembre dernier).
Est-il toujours question d'une nouveau produit P en vol d'ici début 2011 ?
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D'autant que la prestation en vol (avec un siège déjà en bout de course) est loin d'égaler les standards des compétiteurs. Je ne parle pas du produit au sol à CDG qui est d'excellente qualité (j'ai eu la chance de le tester en décembre dernier).
Est-il toujours question d'une nouveau produit P en vol d'ici début 2011 ?
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La prestation P a été revue à la hausse et sera généralisée le 28 mars 2010 à l'ensemble des lignes offrant un service P (PNC formés et dédiés au service et aux attentes spécifiques des clients de cette cabine). Seuls CAI BEY et LBV ne disposent pas encore de cette nouvelle prestation.
Le catering est de meilleure qualité avec une présentation plus travaillée et des saveurs inédites (cependant le cycle mars/avril est selon moi, un peu en deçà de ce que l'on est en droit d'attendre en P, gageons que le suivant sera différent).
Le fauteuil P est loin d'être en bout de course, il est certes moins clinquant que ce qui se fait ailleurs mais il reste un siège d'un très bon confort, particulièrement en position lit (dixit Skytrax). Il n'en demeure pas moins qu'il offre quelques aberrations comme par exemple l'écran qui ne se présente pas sans une manipulation contraignante, etc...
Le fauteuil P n'évoluera pas avant 2012.
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La prestation P a été revue à la hausse et sera généralisée le 28 mars 2010 à l'ensemble des lignes offrant un service P (PNC formés et dédiés au service et aux attentes spécifiques des clients de cette cabine). Seuls CAI BEY et LBV ne disposent pas encore de cette nouvelle prestation.
Le catering est de meilleure qualité avec une présentation plus travaillée et des saveurs inédites (cependant le cycle mars/avril est selon moi, un peu en deçà de ce que l'on est en droit d'attendre en P, gageons que le suivant sera différent).
Le fauteuil P est loin d'être en bout de course, il est certes moins clinquant que ce qui se fait ailleurs mais il reste un siège d'un très bon confort, particulièrement en position lit (dixit Skytrax). Il n'en demeure pas moins qu'il offre quelques aberrations comme par exemple l'écran qui ne se présente pas sans une manipulation contraignante, etc...
Le fauteuil P n'évoluera pas avant 2012.
Bonjour,
Vous avez raison de le faire remarquer, il semblerait que les tarifs F sont appelés à disparaitre au départ de certains pays.Pour ce qui me concerne pour l'instant AF maintient des tarifs F au départ d'ICN et de HKG bien que ces derniers ont été revus à la hausse par rapport aux tarifs F de l'année dernière.Pourquoi en effet AF maintient ce tarif au départ de certains pays et non plus sur les autres?Au départ de JNB cela peut se comprendre(je ne l'ai pas fait) mais de votre pays AF pense peut être que la clientèle Suisse est capable de payer du P....
L'amélioration de son produit P a eu un impact positif auprès de la clientèle, on peut supposer qu'en raison de l'investissement AF aurait revu certains tarifs à la hausse....
Un peu comme SQ sur CDG puisque les passagers ne volent plus en P mais en R.
Oui, mais de là à accepter une différence de 4'000.- CHF entre la F et la P....Fortuné ou non, on voudrait en comprendre la justification. Au départ de MIL (MXP ou LIN) qui attire la clientèle résidant au Tessin car les tarifs sont moins élevés qu'au départ de Suisse, BA, LX ou LH sont assez agressifs (dans les 7'000.- CHF pour un A/R vers JFK en classe "A" quand AF demande 14'000.- CHF en "P").
Là, je ne comprends pas bien la politique commerciale appliquée par AF....
Vous n'êtes pas obligé d'accepter cette différence puisque la concurrence offre toujours un tarif compétitif et la First de LX est exceptionnelle.
J'attends comme vous une explication à propose de cette politique tarifaire...
"en bout de course" est peut-être mal choisi. Cependant, j'ai effectué en décembre dernier un CDG-DXB sur 772 en P. Certes le fauteuil reste confortable. Mais impossible de sortir l'écran vidéo (il a fallu utiliser un couteau), le placage en bois se décollait (côté tablette) et le revêtement "cuir" de l'ottoman était bien fatigué (tout craquelé). Bref, ça faisait un peu pauvre. Même la CCP l'a remarqué et me confiait qu'à la sortie du nouveau siège P en 2004, le PNC avait ressenti une certaine déception générale quant au siège.
Au niveau catering et qualité du service PNC aux petits soins, c'était parfait...
J'ai pu voir la nouvelle cabine F de LX en 333 à l'aéroport de ZRH et j'ai trouvé la configuration de la cabine très agréable et l'intimité de chaque siège est bien respectée grâce aux cloisons individuelles. Ca manque un peu dans la P d'AF.
Ce que vous dites des écrans qui ne sortent pas m'est arrivé deux fois sur 6 l'an dernier.
Moi c'est plutôt l'inverse : les écrans qui sortent tout seuls au décollage.
Moi c'est plutôt l'inverse : les écrans qui sortent tout seuls au décollage.
"Sur le moyen-courrier, nous étions en dehors du marché avec un produit trop haut de gamme." PHG, La Tribune, 18/11/2010.
bonjour
Le fauteuil P est loin d'être en bout de course....
mais :
impossible de sortir l'écran vidéo (il a fallu utiliser un couteau)
Ce que vous dites des écrans qui ne sortent pas m'est arrivé deux fois sur 6 l'an dernier.
Je rigole, car il m'est arrivé récemment la même mésaventure au départ de LAX. Ne parvenant pas à ouvrir l'écran, je l'ai signalé à mon hotesse. N'y arrivant pas elle-même, elle a demandé du renfort au CDP et aux PNC-hommes, sensés être plus bricoleurs. Tous armés de couteaux et de fourchettes ! Mais l'écran a sa fierté : il a résisté. Et on m'a alors prié de quitter mon siège 1A pour un siege du centre, libre.
Compte tenu du prix astronomique (en € ou en miles) du billet LaPremière, j'ai trouvé cela particulièrement ridicule. Mais voyant ici que ce problème est récurrent, je trouve AF dédaigneux et mesquin vis à vis de sa clientèle haut de gamme (si le problème est si fréquent, le fonctionnement de chaque écran devrait être testé avant chaque vol. Pour le prix demandé, ce serait bien la moindre des choses).
Et pour en revenir au sujet précédent, s'il reste vrai que cette cabine est plutôt agréable (et le service au sol à CDG très réussi), nous bavons tous d'envie quand nous voyons des photos (ou des vidéos) du siège Première des compagnies orientales ou extrème orientales.
Le fauteuil P est loin d'être en bout de course....
mais :
impossible de sortir l'écran vidéo (il a fallu utiliser un couteau)
Ce que vous dites des écrans qui ne sortent pas m'est arrivé deux fois sur 6 l'an dernier.
Je rigole, car il m'est arrivé récemment la même mésaventure au départ de LAX. Ne parvenant pas à ouvrir l'écran, je l'ai signalé à mon hotesse. N'y arrivant pas elle-même, elle a demandé du renfort au CDP et aux PNC-hommes, sensés être plus bricoleurs. Tous armés de couteaux et de fourchettes ! Mais l'écran a sa fierté : il a résisté. Et on m'a alors prié de quitter mon siège 1A pour un siege du centre, libre.
Compte tenu du prix astronomique (en € ou en miles) du billet LaPremière, j'ai trouvé cela particulièrement ridicule. Mais voyant ici que ce problème est récurrent, je trouve AF dédaigneux et mesquin vis à vis de sa clientèle haut de gamme (si le problème est si fréquent, le fonctionnement de chaque écran devrait être testé avant chaque vol. Pour le prix demandé, ce serait bien la moindre des choses).
Et pour en revenir au sujet précédent, s'il reste vrai que cette cabine est plutôt agréable (et le service au sol à CDG très réussi), nous bavons tous d'envie quand nous voyons des photos (ou des vidéos) du siège Première des compagnies orientales ou extrème orientales.
De l'Alaska à l'Arizona : contrastes. Voir https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4396533#4396533
Dans la vie, le pire qui pourrait nous arriver serait qu'il ne nous arrive rien !
Dans la vie, le pire qui pourrait nous arriver serait qu'il ne nous arrive rien !
Inutile d'aller aussi loin, BA, LX en terme de service valent AF voir sont au dessus. Le FCT de FRA une merveille, le concorde room fait jeu égale avec le salon P de CDG. De plus, avec la nouvelle P de BA qui me semble des plus réussie.
AF doit se remettre très sérieusement en question en arrêtant de faire les changement en série pour passer à des changement en parallèle.
Moi c'est plutôt l'inverse : les écrans qui sortent tout seuls au décollage.
En P c'est souvent la tablette qui sort d'un coup au décollage et l'écran qui refuse obstinément de sortir pendant le vol...😇
En P c'est souvent la tablette qui sort d'un coup au décollage et l'écran qui refuse obstinément de sortir pendant le vol...😇
Ou le bac de rangement situé sous l'ottoman.
Mais pourquoi utiliser fourchettes et couteaux pour sortir l'écran ? Vous n'avez pas un minimum d'outillage ?
Comme tous les passagers, les membres d'équipages sont soumis à des règles strictes lorsqu'ils montent à bord d'un avion, la réponse est donc, non. Le couteau est ce qu'il se fait de mieux en ce moment pour sortir un écran récalcitrant, en revanche la fourchette...
Comme tous les passagers, les membres d'équipages sont soumis à des règles strictes lorsqu'ils montent à bord d'un avion, la réponse est donc, non. Le couteau est ce qu'il se fait de mieux en ce moment pour sortir un écran récalcitrant, en revanche la fourchette...
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CELA FAISAIT LONGTEMPS QUE NOUS N'avions pas une bonne nouvelle ! vu que cela se passe de moins en moins , voire plus du tout
Un grand bonsoir de Tokyo,
Mon billet était réservé en classe affaire (I) et je suis FB platinum. L'avion devait être plein car il était impossible de réserver un billet en eco. Je tiens à préciser que la PNC en charge de la cabine P était charmante ainsi que tous le personnel ayant un moment ou un autre transiter dans la cabine. La CCP m'a accueillie également de manière très chaleureuse, m'expliquant que c'était très important de s'occuper des clients les plus fidèle. Lui répondant que c'était la première fois en classe première, elle m'a demandé à la fin du vol ce qui était positif et ce qu'il fallait améliorer. Je ne vais pas rentrer dans ce débat mais le lie-flat avec la petite couette, c'est vraiment super. Le repas était agréable et les vins très bon (surtout un gevrey chambertin de 2005😎). Par contre, il est vrai que les sièges font un peu vieillot et l'écran ne me semble pas plus grand que dans la premium voyageur.
Par rapport à la politique de surclassement, c'est mon deuxième de l'année après un Y--> J sur un CDG-->SEA donc je ne trouve pas qu'il y ait une baisse par rapport à cela sachant que j'ai bénéficier de 5 surclassements en J l'année dernière 🙂
Bonne soirée à tous
Mon billet était réservé en classe affaire (I) et je suis FB platinum. L'avion devait être plein car il était impossible de réserver un billet en eco. Je tiens à préciser que la PNC en charge de la cabine P était charmante ainsi que tous le personnel ayant un moment ou un autre transiter dans la cabine. La CCP m'a accueillie également de manière très chaleureuse, m'expliquant que c'était très important de s'occuper des clients les plus fidèle. Lui répondant que c'était la première fois en classe première, elle m'a demandé à la fin du vol ce qui était positif et ce qu'il fallait améliorer. Je ne vais pas rentrer dans ce débat mais le lie-flat avec la petite couette, c'est vraiment super. Le repas était agréable et les vins très bon (surtout un gevrey chambertin de 2005😎). Par contre, il est vrai que les sièges font un peu vieillot et l'écran ne me semble pas plus grand que dans la premium voyageur.
Par rapport à la politique de surclassement, c'est mon deuxième de l'année après un Y--> J sur un CDG-->SEA donc je ne trouve pas qu'il y ait une baisse par rapport à cela sachant que j'ai bénéficier de 5 surclassements en J l'année dernière 🙂
Bonne soirée à tous
Je conçois qu'il soit difficile de changer les sièges sur tous les B777, mais pourquoi avoir gardé les mêmes sur l'A380?
David t'as vu un changement sur les sièges du 388, puisque sur le nouveau siège ils ont entre autre changé le mode de sortie de l'écran (qui ne se bascule plus vers l'avant mais sort verticalement) ? 🙂
David t'as vu un changement sur les sièges du 388, puisque sur le nouveau siège ils ont entre autre changé le mode de sortie de l'écran (qui ne se bascule plus vers l'avant mais sort verticalement) ? 🙂
Fly-the-planet.com - Revue de presse - Twitter - Dossier A380 Air France
L'urgent est fait, l'impossible est en cours, pour les miracles prévoir 24h !
oui le système a changé sur les fauteuils P de l'A380 mais je ne sais plus du tout s'il sortent verticalement ou s'ils sont montés sur un bras articulé (je n'ai plus volé sur l'A380 depuis presque 3 mois!!!).
De plus l'imitation bois du meuble et de la tablette a disparu et fait place à un plastique marron brut. Il me semble que le fauteuil est légèrement moins large que sur Boeing.
oui le système a changé sur les fauteuils P de l'A380 mais je ne sais plus du tout s'il sortent verticalement ou s'ils sont montés sur un bras articulé (je n'ai plus volé sur l'A380 depuis presque 3 mois!!!).
Cf. photos de la Première... 😉 http://www.fly-the-planet.com/community/viewtopic.php?p=2190#p2190
Cf. photos de la Première... 😉 http://www.fly-the-planet.com/community/viewtopic.php?p=2190#p2190
Fly-the-planet.com - Revue de presse - Twitter - Dossier A380 Air France
L'urgent est fait, l'impossible est en cours, pour les miracles prévoir 24h !
Ah ben voila maintenant je sais, je faisais un transfert avec les fauteuils PV de la première rangée
"nous bavons tous d'envie quand nous voyons des photos (ou des vidéos) du siège Première des compagnies orientales ou extrème orientales."
Bonjour , justement je prépare à être infidèle a AF , pour tenter la businness ou la première de SINGAPOUR Air line , je suis étonné du prix qui est moitié moins et me demande ce qui leur permet de proposer de tel tarifs ??
Bonjour , justement je prépare à être infidèle a AF , pour tenter la businness ou la première de SINGAPOUR Air line , je suis étonné du prix qui est moitié moins et me demande ce qui leur permet de proposer de tel tarifs ??
Lancement d´une "Offre spéciale" Air France en cabine "La Première" en aller simple et en aller retour :
Au départ de France vers : ABJ-BEY-BUE-CAI-DKR-HKG-HOU-JNB-LAD-LAX-LBV-MEX-NYC-PEK-PPT-SAO-SCL-SEL-SHA-SIN-TYO-WAS-YMQ
Période de vente : jusqu´au 30 juin 2010 Départs du 15 juin au 01 septembre 2010
Bases tarifaires : FFRAFOW et FFRAFRT Date limite d´achat (APEX) : J-7
Exemples de tarifs aller-retour, hors frais de service : PAR > DKR : 4 984 EUR HT - 5 327 EUR TTC PAR > YMQ : 6 533 EUR HT - 6 838 EUR TTC
Taxes au 21mai 2010
Période de vente : jusqu´au 30 juin 2010 Départs du 15 juin au 01 septembre 2010
Bases tarifaires : FFRAFOW et FFRAFRT Date limite d´achat (APEX) : J-7
Exemples de tarifs aller-retour, hors frais de service : PAR > DKR : 4 984 EUR HT - 5 327 EUR TTC PAR > YMQ : 6 533 EUR HT - 6 838 EUR TTC
Taxes au 21mai 2010
Bonjour,
Vous avez raison de le faire remarquer, il semblerait que les tarifs F sont appelés à disparaitre au départ de certains pays.Pour ce qui me concerne pour l'instant AF maintient des tarifs F au départ d'ICN et de HKG bien que ces derniers ont été revus à la hausse par rapport aux tarifs F de l'année dernière.Pourquoi en effet AF maintient ce tarif au départ de certains pays et non plus sur les autres?Au départ de JNB cela peut se comprendre(je ne l'ai pas fait) mais de votre pays AF pense peut être que la clientèle Suisse est capable de payer du P....
L'amélioration de son produit P a eu un impact positif auprès de la clientèle, on peut supposer qu'en raison de l'investissement AF aurait revu certains tarifs à la hausse....
Un peu comme SQ sur CDG puisque les passagers ne volent plus en P mais en R.
C'est fait! AF a supprimé le tarif F, hors métropole.
C'est fait! AF a supprimé le tarif F, hors métropole.
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maís c'est la première fois qu'un compagnies me traite si mal que Air France.
Deux voyages, deux fois des problèmes. Le dernier:
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4 jours plus tard, le bagage est toujours au même endroitvà CDG, rien ne bouge.
Le problème est qu'Air France m'a pas de service clientèle. Ce qu'ils appellent service clientes, c'est un service qui répond après une heure et qui vous répète ce qu''il y a sur le FORMULAIRE informatique. Aucune coordination, aucune moyen de faire bouger les choses, je suppose que Air France préfère me payer l'indemnisation après 21 jours que se bouger le cul.
J'ai déjà eu des bagages égarés dans d'autres voyages maís c'est la première fois que je vous un tel je-m'en-foutisme foutisme et manque de professionalisme..
maís c'est la première fois qu'un compagnies me traite si mal que Air France.
Deux voyages, deux fois des problèmes. Le dernier:
Voyage de Séoul à Rennes. Dernière partie de París CDG à Rennes par Air France.
J'arrive à Paris et je me rends directement chez Air France pour obtenir la carte d'embarquement jusqu'à Rennes. On n'y assure que mon bagage suit jusqu'à Rennes.
Arrivé à Rennes, pas de bagage, comme c'est le cas de 5 personnes.
Le bureau d'Air France est fermé et le oersonnel de l'aéroport m'assure qu''il y a rarement quelqu'un.
Avec l'aide du personnel de l'aéroport, je fais une réclamation par internet et Mon bagage est quadi directement localisé, en conséquence je l'aurai le lendemain.
4 jours plus tard, le bagage est toujours au même endroitvà CDG, rien ne bouge.
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TAP Portugal refuses to make the change because they consider it a change of passenger, even though it’s clearly a typo (plus, my last name isn’t common). I’m leaving in 5 days, and buying a new ticket would cost 3 times the original price. Has anyone been in this situation before? I’d like to try negotiating at the airport, but it’s a gamble… Thanks in advance for any advice!
Hello,
Since it came into force, Regulation 261/2004 of the European Parliament and Council, which defines air passenger rights, has faced fierce resistance from airlines, backed by IATA (the association representing almost all passenger airlines).
Beyond the airlines' often abusive—and even frequently bad-faith—resistance to passenger rights, IATA has been lobbying EU institutions for years, with the Council paying close attention for a long time.
As a result, the Council and the Commission have been proposing revisions to Regulation 261/2004 for years that are particularly unfavorable to passengers. The latest attempt nearly eliminated the right to compensation for delays of 3 hours or more upon arrival at the final destination.
However, since this is a regulation of both the European Parliament AND the Council, the two bodies had to agree.
But the European Parliament has always stood firm, consistently responding that passenger rights must be preserved.
After 11 years of struggle, it seems likely that we’re finally nearing the end of the match between the European Commission, the Council (the 27 heads of state or government), and the European Parliament.
Indeed, the Commission and the European Parliament have agreed on a text that will be debated again on Monday, July 6, 2026, with a vote scheduled for July 7, 2026. It’s very likely that this text, which would come into force in a year, will be adopted.
The main changes would be as follows: - Families with children will no longer be forced to pay to sit together on planes; - A flight will be considered canceled (not just delayed) if it departs more than one hour late; - Right to compensation for arrival at the final destination if the delay exceeds 3 hours (no longer "3 hours OR more"). The arrival time will be when the plane, having reached its parking spot, engages its parking brakes (no longer when the aircraft door opens); - Airlines can no longer refuse boarding or charge extra on the return flight for a passenger who didn’t take the outbound flight; - If a flight is canceled, the airline must, at the same time as informing passengers of the event, offer the choice between a refund and re-routing, and inform them of their rights to assistance and, if applicable, compensation; - The airline must, without undue delay, inform passengers of the reason; - In the case of a connecting flight, if the connection is missed and the delay at the final destination entitles the passenger to compensation, the responsible airline will be liable. This is very different from the current situation, where, under the KLM ruling, any airline operating a segment of the flight is liable for compensation. This promises more disputes that the Court of Justice of the European Union will have to resolve if two separate airlines operating segments of a connecting flight are both responsible for the delay. See this case for an example: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2026/04/18/swiss-international-air-lines-la-mauvaise-foi/ Moreover, this case demonstrates in advance another potential dispute: It could be argued that it wasn’t a missed connection since the flight was canceled before the first leg even departed. - Within 96 hours of a flight that could entitle passengers to compensation, the airline must contact them to inform them of their rights and explain the next steps. - Passengers must claim their right to compensation within 9 months. This is very different from the current situation, as Regulation 261/2004 sets no time limit. Currently, national law applies—in France, the limit is 5 years. The airline must respond within 30 days. If the airline refuses compensation on the grounds of "extraordinary circumstances," it must specify which type of case it refers to from the list in the annex of the new regulation. If the case isn’t on the list, the airline must explain what the event was, why it qualifies as extraordinary circumstances with "clear, substantial, and concise" explanations, and why it’s directly linked to the reason given. It must also declare what "reasonable measures" were taken to mitigate the issue. This is, of course, a huge change in the regulation, with the clear goal of preventing airlines from declaring just anything as "extraordinary circumstances" to avoid compensation. - If, within 3 hours of a last-minute canceled or delayed flight, the airline hasn’t offered re-routing under comparable transport conditions and as soon as possible—whether on one of its own flights or another airline’s—the passenger will have the right to arrange their own re-routing and demand a refund for the new ticket, up to 400% of the original ticket price. This is a significant improvement that would have likely prevented the case described here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/01/12/reacheminement-catastrophique-droit-indemnisation-meme-circonstances-extraordinaires-2/ - If a flight is canceled due to "extraordinary circumstances," the airline will only be required to offer up to 3 nights in a hotel. This is a major change, as there’s currently no limit. Expect disputes if the extraordinary circumstances end while the passenger hasn’t been re-routed. - The price of a flight, as first displayed, must obligatorily include a cabin bag. This doesn’t prevent the airline from offering a price reduction if the passenger waives the cabin bag. This will put an end to abnormal practices, such as (just one example) Condor charging extra for a cabin bag on long-haul flights like Frankfurt (Germany)–Puerto Plata (Dominican Republic)–Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic)–Frankfurt. - Free correction of a passenger’s name if requested 48 hours before departure. Note: This can’t be used to replace one passenger with another—just to correct a typo, e.g., Dupont instead of Dpont. - Airlines’ websites and apps must include information on how to file a claim.
It’s clear that, despite a few details, these changes are very positive for upholding passenger rights. It remains to be seen whether this text will be definitively adopted on July 7, 2026, as is very likely, and, more importantly, whether IATA will encourage airlines to loyally respect these new rules or persist in their old habits.
Best regards,
Since it came into force, Regulation 261/2004 of the European Parliament and Council, which defines air passenger rights, has faced fierce resistance from airlines, backed by IATA (the association representing almost all passenger airlines).
Beyond the airlines' often abusive—and even frequently bad-faith—resistance to passenger rights, IATA has been lobbying EU institutions for years, with the Council paying close attention for a long time.
As a result, the Council and the Commission have been proposing revisions to Regulation 261/2004 for years that are particularly unfavorable to passengers. The latest attempt nearly eliminated the right to compensation for delays of 3 hours or more upon arrival at the final destination.
However, since this is a regulation of both the European Parliament AND the Council, the two bodies had to agree.
But the European Parliament has always stood firm, consistently responding that passenger rights must be preserved.
After 11 years of struggle, it seems likely that we’re finally nearing the end of the match between the European Commission, the Council (the 27 heads of state or government), and the European Parliament.
Indeed, the Commission and the European Parliament have agreed on a text that will be debated again on Monday, July 6, 2026, with a vote scheduled for July 7, 2026. It’s very likely that this text, which would come into force in a year, will be adopted.
The main changes would be as follows: - Families with children will no longer be forced to pay to sit together on planes; - A flight will be considered canceled (not just delayed) if it departs more than one hour late; - Right to compensation for arrival at the final destination if the delay exceeds 3 hours (no longer "3 hours OR more"). The arrival time will be when the plane, having reached its parking spot, engages its parking brakes (no longer when the aircraft door opens); - Airlines can no longer refuse boarding or charge extra on the return flight for a passenger who didn’t take the outbound flight; - If a flight is canceled, the airline must, at the same time as informing passengers of the event, offer the choice between a refund and re-routing, and inform them of their rights to assistance and, if applicable, compensation; - The airline must, without undue delay, inform passengers of the reason; - In the case of a connecting flight, if the connection is missed and the delay at the final destination entitles the passenger to compensation, the responsible airline will be liable. This is very different from the current situation, where, under the KLM ruling, any airline operating a segment of the flight is liable for compensation. This promises more disputes that the Court of Justice of the European Union will have to resolve if two separate airlines operating segments of a connecting flight are both responsible for the delay. See this case for an example: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2026/04/18/swiss-international-air-lines-la-mauvaise-foi/ Moreover, this case demonstrates in advance another potential dispute: It could be argued that it wasn’t a missed connection since the flight was canceled before the first leg even departed. - Within 96 hours of a flight that could entitle passengers to compensation, the airline must contact them to inform them of their rights and explain the next steps. - Passengers must claim their right to compensation within 9 months. This is very different from the current situation, as Regulation 261/2004 sets no time limit. Currently, national law applies—in France, the limit is 5 years. The airline must respond within 30 days. If the airline refuses compensation on the grounds of "extraordinary circumstances," it must specify which type of case it refers to from the list in the annex of the new regulation. If the case isn’t on the list, the airline must explain what the event was, why it qualifies as extraordinary circumstances with "clear, substantial, and concise" explanations, and why it’s directly linked to the reason given. It must also declare what "reasonable measures" were taken to mitigate the issue. This is, of course, a huge change in the regulation, with the clear goal of preventing airlines from declaring just anything as "extraordinary circumstances" to avoid compensation. - If, within 3 hours of a last-minute canceled or delayed flight, the airline hasn’t offered re-routing under comparable transport conditions and as soon as possible—whether on one of its own flights or another airline’s—the passenger will have the right to arrange their own re-routing and demand a refund for the new ticket, up to 400% of the original ticket price. This is a significant improvement that would have likely prevented the case described here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/01/12/reacheminement-catastrophique-droit-indemnisation-meme-circonstances-extraordinaires-2/ - If a flight is canceled due to "extraordinary circumstances," the airline will only be required to offer up to 3 nights in a hotel. This is a major change, as there’s currently no limit. Expect disputes if the extraordinary circumstances end while the passenger hasn’t been re-routed. - The price of a flight, as first displayed, must obligatorily include a cabin bag. This doesn’t prevent the airline from offering a price reduction if the passenger waives the cabin bag. This will put an end to abnormal practices, such as (just one example) Condor charging extra for a cabin bag on long-haul flights like Frankfurt (Germany)–Puerto Plata (Dominican Republic)–Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic)–Frankfurt. - Free correction of a passenger’s name if requested 48 hours before departure. Note: This can’t be used to replace one passenger with another—just to correct a typo, e.g., Dupont instead of Dpont. - Airlines’ websites and apps must include information on how to file a claim.
It’s clear that, despite a few details, these changes are very positive for upholding passenger rights. It remains to be seen whether this text will be definitively adopted on July 7, 2026, as is very likely, and, more importantly, whether IATA will encourage airlines to loyally respect these new rules or persist in their old habits.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Georgia this summer and I’ve been comparing some airlines. I’m not particularly set on flying with Pegasus (though it’s convenient with direct flights from Lyon to Tbilisi), but right off the bat, Pegasus states this:
As of January 1, 2026, all foreign nationals traveling to Georgia for tourism purposes will be required to present valid travel health insurance. Guests who fail to provide the relevant health insurance will not be accepted on our flights to Georgia. Sincerely, Pegasus Airlines
In other words, if you don’t show proof of travel health insurance, you’ll be denied boarding. Personally, my credit card insurance has always been enough for me, and I’d rather not take out extra coverage... Have any of you run into this issue before? If not, what do you think? Why is Pegasus asking for this proof? Other airlines don’t mention it at all.
I’m planning a trip to Georgia this summer and I’ve been comparing some airlines. I’m not particularly set on flying with Pegasus (though it’s convenient with direct flights from Lyon to Tbilisi), but right off the bat, Pegasus states this:
As of January 1, 2026, all foreign nationals traveling to Georgia for tourism purposes will be required to present valid travel health insurance. Guests who fail to provide the relevant health insurance will not be accepted on our flights to Georgia. Sincerely, Pegasus Airlines
In other words, if you don’t show proof of travel health insurance, you’ll be denied boarding. Personally, my credit card insurance has always been enough for me, and I’d rather not take out extra coverage... Have any of you run into this issue before? If not, what do you think? Why is Pegasus asking for this proof? Other airlines don’t mention it at all.
Hi,
I bought my flight ticket with my first (usual) first name, which appears first on my passport. However, I have two first names on my passport, and of course, it’s mentioned in the machine-readable zone at the bottom.
I booked with Turkish Airlines (through an online agency) for a trip to South Korea.
I wanted to know if it would be a problem that I only used my first first name on the ticket, while my passport has two. I had requested through the agency to add the second first name, but the airline refused because it doesn’t meet their general conditions. (They must have seen that the last name and first name were the same, and only the second first name was added.)
So, my ticket has my last name and first first name correctly spelled, and when I check in online, I’ll enter the passport details correctly.
I’ll have a layover in Istanbul on the flight.
Thanks in advance for your replies. Have a great day.
I bought my flight ticket with my first (usual) first name, which appears first on my passport. However, I have two first names on my passport, and of course, it’s mentioned in the machine-readable zone at the bottom.
I booked with Turkish Airlines (through an online agency) for a trip to South Korea.
I wanted to know if it would be a problem that I only used my first first name on the ticket, while my passport has two. I had requested through the agency to add the second first name, but the airline refused because it doesn’t meet their general conditions. (They must have seen that the last name and first name were the same, and only the second first name was added.)
So, my ticket has my last name and first first name correctly spelled, and when I check in online, I’ll enter the passport details correctly.
I’ll have a layover in Istanbul on the flight.
Thanks in advance for your replies. Have a great day.
Hi there,
I traveled in June 2025 with Nouvelair Destinations to Hammamet.
I had one checked bag and one carry-on sized 40x24x30, which I usually take on low-cost flights, and I didn’t have any issues. But I just read on a website that Nouvel Air only accepts carry-ons of 40x20x15. I’m flying back to Djerba in June—what do you think? Especially since that size is impossible to find??????? Thanks
Hi, it's my first time taking a plane and I chose EasyJet for a Geneva -> Barcelona flight.
I booked my ticket.
I received my booking reference by email, but I don’t see the actual ticket (barcode or QR code?).
Then I checked in to get the boarding pass with the flight details, QR code, etc. But does this boarding pass act as the ticket?
Because I’ve seen several times online that the flight ticket and the boarding pass aren’t the same thing.
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We're leaving for Albania on June 18th. When I validated the flight tickets with Wizz Air on Booking, I only put my son's first name but forgot to include his other three first names on the ticket. On the passport: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAMES: toto titi tutu tata On the flight ticket: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAME: toto I can't seem to reach anyone at Wizz Air to get an answer. Booking and Wizz Air's chat say I need to modify it, but ChatGPT says it should be fine. I wanted to know if he can fly like this or if I need to change his ticket? (It costs 140 €, I know I shouldn't have made a mistake🙁)
Thanks for your feedback.
We're leaving for Albania on June 18th. When I validated the flight tickets with Wizz Air on Booking, I only put my son's first name but forgot to include his other three first names on the ticket. On the passport: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAMES: toto titi tutu tata On the flight ticket: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAME: toto I can't seem to reach anyone at Wizz Air to get an answer. Booking and Wizz Air's chat say I need to modify it, but ChatGPT says it should be fine. I wanted to know if he can fly like this or if I need to change his ticket? (It costs 140 €, I know I shouldn't have made a mistake🙁)
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi,
A pretty serious issue has come up in the past few weeks for traveling to Tanzania.
What’s the deal with airlines in Tanzania? https://www.capital.fr/economie-politique/ce-pays-est-tres-touristique-mais-ses-compagnies-aeriennes-sont-placees-sur-liste-noire-par-l-europe-1515325 https://www.charentelibre.fr/tourisme/la-tanzanie-sur-liste-noire-de-l-europe-des-vols-interieurs-a-haut-risque-pour-100-000-touristes-francais-25002566.php
Basically, all airlines have been blacklisted because they don’t meet European safety standards. They’re banned from flying in Europe but continue operating in Tanzania. The main issue is that travel agencies’ civil liability no longer applies to blacklisted airlines. So we can’t allow clients to fly with these carriers. Of course, there’s huge pressure from European agencies, which are forced to disrupt their plans or even cancel trips because of this. Personally, I’ve got a trip planned for February 2026 to the southern parks in Tanzania, so I’ll be keeping an eye on how this develops. Do any of you have updates? Thanks!
Loïc
A pretty serious issue has come up in the past few weeks for traveling to Tanzania.
What’s the deal with airlines in Tanzania? https://www.capital.fr/economie-politique/ce-pays-est-tres-touristique-mais-ses-compagnies-aeriennes-sont-placees-sur-liste-noire-par-l-europe-1515325 https://www.charentelibre.fr/tourisme/la-tanzanie-sur-liste-noire-de-l-europe-des-vols-interieurs-a-haut-risque-pour-100-000-touristes-francais-25002566.php
Basically, all airlines have been blacklisted because they don’t meet European safety standards. They’re banned from flying in Europe but continue operating in Tanzania. The main issue is that travel agencies’ civil liability no longer applies to blacklisted airlines. So we can’t allow clients to fly with these carriers. Of course, there’s huge pressure from European agencies, which are forced to disrupt their plans or even cancel trips because of this. Personally, I’ve got a trip planned for February 2026 to the southern parks in Tanzania, so I’ll be keeping an eye on how this develops. Do any of you have updates? Thanks!
Loïc
Hi,
Right now, with the war raging in Iran and affecting all the neighboring countries of the Persian Gulf, many airports are completely closed to all traffic.
Several airlines like Qatar Airways, Emirates, and others have almost completely halted their operations.
Whether in the Middle East or Africa, many travelers are stranded—maybe for a long time... A heartfelt thought for them and the struggles this will cause.
Four months ago, I was in Kenya with a flight booked through Qatar Airways... I can’t even imagine how I’d react if I were stuck there now. ??
Wishing all these travelers courage, patience, and success in making it back home.
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Doha Airport on October 21, 2025:

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Right now, with the war raging in Iran and affecting all the neighboring countries of the Persian Gulf, many airports are completely closed to all traffic.
Several airlines like Qatar Airways, Emirates, and others have almost completely halted their operations.
Whether in the Middle East or Africa, many travelers are stranded—maybe for a long time... A heartfelt thought for them and the struggles this will cause.
Four months ago, I was in Kenya with a flight booked through Qatar Airways... I can’t even imagine how I’d react if I were stuck there now. ??
Wishing all these travelers courage, patience, and success in making it back home.
...
Doha Airport on October 21, 2025:

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Hello, some (potentially) good news for Brazil lovers—GOL airline is launching a route to Europe from Rio, starting in September for Lisbon, then Paris at a later date that hasn’t been announced yet.
They’ll be using their new A330-900 neo.
No prices have been announced so far, but hopefully we’ll find direct flights from GIG at a more interesting fare than AF or Latam…
Hello,
I’m really surprised because in TUI’s new tour packages, the airlines they’re using are of low quality. Before, they used to prioritize major airlines, but now it’s small airlines from small countries—companies with terrible ratings and borderline safety concerns. I even just noticed this note for a Tanzania trip: "We inform you that the domestic flight segment in Tanzania included in your trip is operated by an airline listed on the European Union’s list of air carriers subject to an operating ban within the European Union. This ban only applies to European Union airspace, meaning this airline is not permitted to take off, land, or fly over European airspace. However, this airline is authorized to operate in Tanzania."
This means they’re using airlines on the blacklist!! It’s pretty worrying for safety. What do you all think?
I’m really surprised because in TUI’s new tour packages, the airlines they’re using are of low quality. Before, they used to prioritize major airlines, but now it’s small airlines from small countries—companies with terrible ratings and borderline safety concerns. I even just noticed this note for a Tanzania trip: "We inform you that the domestic flight segment in Tanzania included in your trip is operated by an airline listed on the European Union’s list of air carriers subject to an operating ban within the European Union. This ban only applies to European Union airspace, meaning this airline is not permitted to take off, land, or fly over European airspace. However, this airline is authorized to operate in Tanzania."
This means they’re using airlines on the blacklist!! It’s pretty worrying for safety. What do you all think?
Hello,
We’re planning a cruise to the UAE/QATAR/OMAN starting from DUBAI, with flights departing from Paris CDG. Which airlines would you recommend for round-trip flights, with or without a layover? We need assistance for check-in and boarding/disembarking (my husband is a mobility-impaired traveler who uses a cane and/or a walker). We’ve done a cruise return from Dubai to Paris CDG before in 2016, with a layover in Istanbul, but we booked the transfer and return flight with COSTA. For our current plan, it would be with Celestyal, which doesn’t offer round-trip flights from Paris to Dubai. Should we book very far in advance, or is a few months before departure enough (4/6 months)? We’re thinking of arriving the day before the ship departs, so we’d need to stay overnight in Dubai—either on the way there or for the return flight, depending on the flight schedules. Could you recommend a hotel not too far from the airport, and how to get to the port from the airport?
Thanks so much for your advice. Have a great Sunday! Mum49
We’re planning a cruise to the UAE/QATAR/OMAN starting from DUBAI, with flights departing from Paris CDG. Which airlines would you recommend for round-trip flights, with or without a layover? We need assistance for check-in and boarding/disembarking (my husband is a mobility-impaired traveler who uses a cane and/or a walker). We’ve done a cruise return from Dubai to Paris CDG before in 2016, with a layover in Istanbul, but we booked the transfer and return flight with COSTA. For our current plan, it would be with Celestyal, which doesn’t offer round-trip flights from Paris to Dubai. Should we book very far in advance, or is a few months before departure enough (4/6 months)? We’re thinking of arriving the day before the ship departs, so we’d need to stay overnight in Dubai—either on the way there or for the return flight, depending on the flight schedules. Could you recommend a hotel not too far from the airport, and how to get to the port from the airport?
Thanks so much for your advice. Have a great Sunday! Mum49
Hi,
It's all in the title—this means nothing's getting through, so no more oil.
In Europe, kerosene reserves are still good, but by the end of April, flights will have to be reduced.
European airports fear running out of kerosene if the Strait of Hormuz isn’t reopened within three weeks
Bluff or not? Stay tuned....
Bluff or not? Stay tuned....
Hi everyone,
I’m reaching out to ask for your help with a bit of a problem:
I booked a flight to Berlin from Orly for April 15th—it’s coming up fast. But I just made an annoying discovery: my passport expired two weeks ago.
From what I understand, in principle, I can still travel within the Schengen Zone with an expired passport as long as it’s been less than five years. However, EasyJet’s website explicitly requires a valid ID (and just to add to the fun, my national ID card has been expired for a while now).
So, I’d love to know: how strict are EasyJet’s ID checks? Do they enforce validity rules strictly and refuse boarding if the ID isn’t valid? Or is it more of a luck-of-the-draw situation?
Basically, should I just write off this trip now, or should I still try my luck—maybe with a little tearful plea? Has anyone here had a similar experience? I can’t be the only one, right!
I’m reaching out to ask for your help with a bit of a problem:
I booked a flight to Berlin from Orly for April 15th—it’s coming up fast. But I just made an annoying discovery: my passport expired two weeks ago.
From what I understand, in principle, I can still travel within the Schengen Zone with an expired passport as long as it’s been less than five years. However, EasyJet’s website explicitly requires a valid ID (and just to add to the fun, my national ID card has been expired for a while now).
So, I’d love to know: how strict are EasyJet’s ID checks? Do they enforce validity rules strictly and refuse boarding if the ID isn’t valid? Or is it more of a luck-of-the-draw situation?
Basically, should I just write off this trip now, or should I still try my luck—maybe with a little tearful plea? Has anyone here had a similar experience? I can’t be the only one, right!
Hi there!
Has anyone taken the direct flight from CDG to Las Vegas with Air France?
Looking forward to your feedback!
Hey everyone,
I booked a flight with RyanAir for next month, with the priority+ option and two cabin bags. So I can take a 10 kg bag with dimensions 55x40x20 in the cabin (plus another smaller one). The problem is that the smallest suitcase I have (which is supposed to be designed specifically for cabin size standards, according to the manual) has the following dimensions: 55x37x21, so it's just 1 cm over (wheels included) on one of the measurements.
I wasn’t too worried at first, but I’ve read dozens of stories about people’s misadventures and the hassles they’ve had with RyanAir.
Since I don’t want my suitcase to end up in the hold (that would waste time picking it up when I’m already arriving late and need to get to the city center), nor do I want to pay an extra fee (apparently 50 €) for the outbound and return flights for just 1 centimeter—especially since I paid for the "priority+" option and I’m not exactly rolling in money—I’d love some advice.
Have any of you been in the same situation? I’ve read that with this airline, they check bags in templates (testing them in different positions) and are completely uncompromising. I tried contacting customer service, who, as luck would have it, "don’t handle this kind of request," and a rep I spoke to wasn’t much help.
I know it’s a low-cost airline, and I don’t expect luxury or even kindness, but come on—just 1 cm on a short flight with the + option... I’m a bit overwhelmed by everything I’ve read...
Just to clarify, since I’m going for 8 days, I can’t just take one bag for my stuff. I’ve done that for shorter trips before, and it was a hassle—I even had to buy an extra bag for the return trip... Luckily, the inspector was nice about it!
Thanks so much! I’m a newbie when it comes to air travel :) Hope I posted this in the right section!
I booked a flight with RyanAir for next month, with the priority+ option and two cabin bags. So I can take a 10 kg bag with dimensions 55x40x20 in the cabin (plus another smaller one). The problem is that the smallest suitcase I have (which is supposed to be designed specifically for cabin size standards, according to the manual) has the following dimensions: 55x37x21, so it's just 1 cm over (wheels included) on one of the measurements.
I wasn’t too worried at first, but I’ve read dozens of stories about people’s misadventures and the hassles they’ve had with RyanAir.
Since I don’t want my suitcase to end up in the hold (that would waste time picking it up when I’m already arriving late and need to get to the city center), nor do I want to pay an extra fee (apparently 50 €) for the outbound and return flights for just 1 centimeter—especially since I paid for the "priority+" option and I’m not exactly rolling in money—I’d love some advice.
Have any of you been in the same situation? I’ve read that with this airline, they check bags in templates (testing them in different positions) and are completely uncompromising. I tried contacting customer service, who, as luck would have it, "don’t handle this kind of request," and a rep I spoke to wasn’t much help.
I know it’s a low-cost airline, and I don’t expect luxury or even kindness, but come on—just 1 cm on a short flight with the + option... I’m a bit overwhelmed by everything I’ve read...
Just to clarify, since I’m going for 8 days, I can’t just take one bag for my stuff. I’ve done that for shorter trips before, and it was a hassle—I even had to buy an extra bag for the return trip... Luckily, the inspector was nice about it!
Thanks so much! I’m a newbie when it comes to air travel :) Hope I posted this in the right section!
Hi there,
When I run searches on Skyscanner, I see that only Lufthansa has flights to Seoul with just one stop. Air France doesn’t show up, even though I thought the French airline served Seoul? I can’t even log into the Air France website—it keeps glitching.
When I run searches on Skyscanner, I see that only Lufthansa has flights to Seoul with just one stop. Air France doesn’t show up, even though I thought the French airline served Seoul? I can’t even log into the Air France website—it keeps glitching.
Hi there,
I’d like to return to Uzbekistan next April for 10 days with my husband to visit our son who lives there. We went last July and I bought the flight tickets (direct flight from Paris on Uzbekistan Airways) about 2 months in advance at very reasonable prices. I’ve been checking for late April for a few weeks now, and the tickets are much more expensive and keep rising. I can’t figure out if the prices are going up because it’s still a bit too early to buy and they’ll likely drop if the planes aren’t full, or if it’s because the period is actually in high demand. For reference, last year I bought my son’s ticket on May 30th for a departure on June 3rd—just 3 days later—at a very low price that didn’t budge at all.
Just in case, does anyone know the pricing trends for this airline and can advise me? Should I wait or not?
Thanks, and feel free to ask if you need any tips about the country!
My wife bought a flight ticket (Lucky Air) under her Thai maiden name and was issued a Chinese visa on her new Thai passport but with her French married name (due to administrative requirements). She was denied boarding by the airline in Bangkok for the flight to Kunming—resulting in the loss of our round-trip flight tickets, including mine since we were traveling together—despite presenting both passports at the airline counter at the same time.
Hi there.
I’m planning a trip to Chile, and the fares from the Colombian airline Avianca are really appealing.
Way cheaper than Air France, for example.
That said, the reviews I’ve seen online aren’t great.
What do you think of this airline?
Have any of you taken long-haul flights with Avianca?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Eric
Hi there,
This might be a silly question, but I’m traveling to Japan from CDG and returning via Osaka with EVA Air, and I have a pretty bulky aluminum knee brace. It’s this model: https://enovis-medtech.eu/fr_FR/OA-FullForce-74358.html
Has anyone had any experience with airport security checks or flying with one of these?
Thanks in advance! Best regards,
This might be a silly question, but I’m traveling to Japan from CDG and returning via Osaka with EVA Air, and I have a pretty bulky aluminum knee brace. It’s this model: https://enovis-medtech.eu/fr_FR/OA-FullForce-74358.html
Has anyone had any experience with airport security checks or flying with one of these?
Thanks in advance! Best regards,
Hi there,
I can't seem to find flights between the Cape Verde islands on the airline's website. No matter the date or route, I always get the same response: "no flights on this date." See the photo. Would anyone have an explanation? Surely not all flights are fully booked in July?
Best, Thierry
I can't seem to find flights between the Cape Verde islands on the airline's website. No matter the date or route, I always get the same response: "no flights on this date." See the photo. Would anyone have an explanation? Surely not all flights are fully booked in July?
Best, Thierry







